I don't think those out of The OT are The same that are Born from Above , and coming out of GT and the ones that comes out of the 1000 year Reign

[PloughBoy]

I have good sound Biblical reason to believe those who belong to GOD from the Old Testament are different than those who are "Born from Above" in The New Testament, and those who belongs to GOD out of the "Great Tribulation" and those who are saved during the 1000 year Reign.

Now I got this out of No ones book. And No one has ever brought this to my attention.

But by my repeated READINGS of the Bible from front to back. repeated readings. I can see it plain as day. For we are the Only ones, in this "GENERATION" of Believers that has been called; "The sons of GOD" and our LIFE to come had been hidden in the Old Testament, They Never, GODS people of old never saw us coming. "our life was hidden in "Christ JESUS".

Note: if you have been a "POP Shot" reader you cannot see it. In your beginning, you read over here, then you read over here, then back here, skip these verses here, Plus your Pastor was not a "Expository" preacher. And you read this teacher opinion, and that one all over the broad, when you wanted information you look up this minister view point. You cannot see it. and to read the Bible from front to back consistently, to takes "DISCIPLINE" you have to train yourselves, or One that will "Disciples" you Hard. And stay on you like a Hard Task Master. Because that DEVIL, is going to get the NEWS from His IMPS of what you are doing. "you are reading that BOOK", Training your self, in "Discipline" beginning at "The ALPHA going to The OMEGA" and Determine to do another LAP! And if you every been a "LAP Swimmer" you know where i am headed.

I have many more things to say, to justify, these things. I am not getting paid, Through out the years, I was not busy going to football games, Baseball, basketball, Of sports of TV. I played GOLF a lot , a few years, sometimes 3 to 4 times a week, I played free, only black person at the CLUB. One summer Play all the time with a Pro Player that was on the European Tour. LOL "Black Privileges". I got Good, They Fed me, Free! I got to know the owner before He built the 2 million Club house. His daughter had married a black man, and He had Mix grandkids, And He was Crazy about those Kids, and He didn't like the other Grand kids. LOL! So what i am saying i have had the time to read all of these 44 years in depth a lot of things that has related to "Biblical History" plus the BIBLE at Whole. My brother use to complain to my Mother, That I was everywhere, And since he had started pastoring, he didn't even have time to study!
I told my mother, the Presbyter told them , I was going to be a "Great Preacher" and I don't want it, Let Mikey have it ! And he went, and I went the other way, Let me study. He went into Religious & Urban Studies, and I went "Theological Proper". My focus :"GOD the Father, God The SON, God The HOLY SPIRIT" and i let them do the rest.

Back to the Title Thread.

"I don't think those out of The OT are The same that are Born from Above , and coming out of GT and the ones that comes out of the 1000 year Reign"

Have anyone every got a "Biblical Snap Shot" of this Read; As they constantly reread their Bibles. The Fleshes would come in orderly form. Like you would be in "The Zone".

I feel many will need clarity of what i am trying to bring to surface. I tell you now it is not for the "pool wader" it maybe for "Deep sea Divers"
You might get a nose bleed and the Bends coming up.

 

[Reba1]

Joh_17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

Gal_3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Eph_4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

1Co_12:20 But now are they many members, yet but one body.

Eph_2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

Exo_4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

Eph_5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

1Pe_2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
Exo 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Take a look at what is going on in the USA .. Divide and conquer . Why o Why do Christians want to divide His people? We as Christians God's people should be ONE as in one accord. We are His body from Adam to @PloughBoy .. Those verse speeking about being "one' dont say except for xyz

 

[PloughBoy]

Joh_17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

Gal_3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Eph_4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

1Co_12:20 But now are they many members, yet but one body.

Eph_2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

Exo_4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

Eph_5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

1Pe_2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
Exo 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Take a look at what is going on in the USA .. Divide and conquer . Why o Why do Christians want to divide His people? We as Christians God's people should be ONE as in one accord. We are His body from Adam to @PloughBoy .. Those verse speeking about being "one' dont say except for xyz

No, you miss what i meant, It is a hard thing to explain. But i will try again.
1. We are the only ones who are Hidden in Christ Jesus. New Testament "Born from ABOVE"
2. Old Testament "Remnant" where not Born from ABOVE.
3. His People coming out of the"Great Tribulation" will have to go through a "GREAT Trial"
4. Christ and The "Sons Of The LIVING GOD" Shall REIGN a THOUSAND years. "A Kingdom of kings and Priest" People shall be saved during the THOUSAND year Reign. But all of us are coming out of Abraham.


And The Future Vision of Apostle JOHN, on one occasion. How come He didn't not know the ELDER, how come John did not know Those who had on "WHITE ROBES" If they was his brother or sister in Christ, the body of Christ. "The Bride".

Or have you determine everybody from Genesis to Revelation is "The Bride" Everybody is the Bride. No Guest, No servants, No Virgins, Just the Groom.

For Heaven it self have more than One kind of ANGEL.

They all are "ANGELS" From Genesis to Revelation GOD can have All kinds of PEOPLE. His PEOPLE out the Old His People out Of The NT, His people out of The GT, His People out of The 1000 reign.

We are talking about A GOD. Not Ford Motor Company. God is Not Limited concerning HIS PEOPLE! ALL of them are GOING to BE GREAT!

My GOD is Not LIMITED, only The HUMAN mind is.

"Then one of the elders addressed me: “These in white robes,” he asked, “who are they, and where have they come from?” “Sir,” I answered, “you know.” So he replied, “These arethe ones who have come out of the greattribulation; they have washed their robes andmade them white in the blood of the Lamb. For this reason, they are before the throne of God and serve Him day and night in His temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them.…"

I am not referring to the EARTHLY But The PROMISE.


New American Standard Bible
Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist! Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

 

[PloughBoy]

New American Standard Bible
Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist! Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.


These churches have mess up the masses. Only thing they think, when we die we go to HEAVEN, The World has Gotten Bored with that tune!
Jesus died so we COULD have relationship With GOD our Father with A Shared "Inheritance". GOD is getting rid of Heaven and earth, The devil have tainted it.
He is going to Created some thing Brand NEW! After throwing the old into The Lake of Fire and Brimstone.

God is not going to give us something Old!

And Reba1 you are going to be so far beyond Beautiful, your Glow, is going to light up ETERNITY You will be the Reflection of GOD. I tell you right now, we are Different. You don't believe me. We are Different! Too good to be true.

I am snapping my Fingers! You don't have to believe me! I got enough for Both! And running over!

 

[Sue D.]

Everyone from the beginning of the world to now get to heaven the same way.

In the Old Testament the prophets told of the coming of the Messiah who would be born in the future and die on the cross for their sins. They believed without seeing that fulfilled. Then during the time of Christ. Those who were living at that time either accepted Jesus Christ's death , burial and bodily resurrection or they Didn't. And since That time -- 'we' now look back at what God's Word tells us happened. We also either accept what we read about having already happened, or we reject.

Prior to that , people who died went to Abraham's bosom -- to wait for the 'cross' to take place. As we read about the rich man and Lazarus. So when Jesus Christ died and was buried -- He went to hell in our place. Brought back up with Him those who had previously died 'in Christ' when He arose bodily on the 3rd day. From that day forward those who die in Christ are immediately With Him upon their death.

 

[Reba1]

No, you miss what i meant, It is a hard thing to explain. But i will try again.

I did not miss your meaning i just dont agree. Most likely we have different views on the metaphors through out Scripture.
Speaking of metaphors often reading your posts I see a fisherman casting the line, resetting the bait praying for the catch.. as the Son is going down over the horizon .

Although we may not see every detail of the Word exactly the same, we agree on the Foundation the Corner Stone . The King of kings ,

 

[PloughBoy]

I did not miss your meaning i just dont agree. Most likely we have different views on the metaphors through out Scripture.
Speaking of metaphors often reading your posts I see a fisherman casting the line, resetting the bait praying for the catch.. as the Son is going down over the horizon .

Although we may not see every detail of the Word exactly the same, we agree on the Foundation the Corner Stone . The King of kings ,

So you Do not Believe In The COVENANT Blessing of "ABRAHAM".

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
"And Abraham is going to be for a great people and many, and all of the nations of the Earth shall be blessed in him?"

Now How many hours , the times or years have you study "The Covenant of ABRAHAM" alone. By itself.

When a person is reading ones, Composition and does not fully understand the "elements' that is engrave in that position of that composition., that person cannot come to a conclusion of Understanding to arrive at a certain position. But you claim you do, but your response "Prove" you don't. You come No where Near, The LIGHT That has been place on The "Original Copied Manuscript" of The Translated Text, The Bible. And Have become "Hostile" to the TEXT.

Post 1, did not come from some lap dog pastor, who don't have no time to study their bibles like they should, but only time to collect Tithes and offering and talk about "tongues" and tell Sister Winnie, how good she look, and thank her for the cookies, she serve last week at the tea club Bible class.
And How pretty the flowers look on The Podium. I'm serious, this is not fly by night material. Instead of doing the Work of The Bereans and put Hard hours and days in The BOOK to see if these things are True. even if it takes a mouth! So many christians have been fed on "regurgitated" feed, so long it has become a "Required" taste.

If it ain't Tithes and Offering, TONGUES, Baptism, Wine, Grape Juice or Cool aid, head covering, or what color dress or how short a dress I can wear to church. I ain't eating none of it. And if you put give a piece of meat in front of them, they will take a bite and swallow before they chew. Now, you got to but on them the "Heimlich Maneuver"! Here we might have a Grown person who got teeth but will not chew. LOL

The reason i am laughing, because many do not realize, this stuff is in the BIBLE.

Here the go: "Where do you find that in the Bible"? What Verse, what book, what chapter? But they know The BOOK.

Like my wife told me one day; "Dr.__________ said that, I don't know what I got. I said to Her, How in the "SAND HILL" he knows what i got? You been sleeping next to me for over 20 years. then I thought to myself, NO, he don't know what he GOT!

3For the lips of an adulteress drip honey,
And smoother than oil is her speech;
4But in the end she is bitter as wormwood,
Sharp as a two-edged sword.
5Her feet go down to death,
Her steps lay hold of Sheol.
6She does not ponder the path of life;
Her ways are unstable, she does not know it.

Now who is The smart one?

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

I have good sound Biblical reason to believe those who belong to GOD from the Old Testament are different than those who are "Born from Above" in The New Testament, and those who belongs to GOD out of the "Great Tribulation" and those who are saved during the 1000 year Reign.

Now I got this out of No ones book. And No one has ever brought this to my attention.

But by my repeated READINGS of the Bible from front to back. repeated readings. I can see it plain as day. For we are the Only ones, in this "GENERATION" of Believers that has been called; "The sons of GOD" and our LIFE to come had been hidden in the Old Testament, They Never, GODS people of old never saw us coming. "our life was hidden in "Christ JESUS".

Note: if you have been a "POP Shot" reader you cannot see it. In your beginning, you read over here, then you read over here, then back here, skip these verses here, Plus your Pastor was not a "Expository" preacher. And you read this teacher opinion, and that one all over the broad, when you wanted information you look up this minister view point. You cannot see it. and to read the Bible from front to back consistently, to takes "DISCIPLINE" you have to train yourselves, or One that will "Disciples" you Hard. And stay on you like a Hard Task Master. Because that DEVIL, is going to get the NEWS from His IMPS of what you are doing. "you are reading that BOOK", Training your self, in "Discipline" beginning at "The ALPHA going to The OMEGA" and Determine to do another LAP! And if you every been a "LAP Swimmer" you know where i am headed.

I have many more things to say, to justify, these things. I am not getting paid, Through out the years, I was not busy going to football games, Baseball, basketball, Of sports of TV. I played GOLF a lot , a few years, sometimes 3 to 4 times a week, I played free, only black person at the CLUB. One summer Play all the time with a Pro Player that was on the European Tour. LOL "Black Privileges". I got Good, They Fed me, Free! I got to know the owner before He built the 2 million Club house. His daughter had married a black man, and He had Mix grandkids, And He was Crazy about those Kids, and He didn't like the other Grand kids. LOL! So what i am saying i have had the time to read all of these 44 years in depth a lot of things that has related to "Biblical History" plus the BIBLE at Whole. My brother use to complain to my Mother, That I was everywhere, And since he had started pastoring, he didn't even have time to study!
I told my mother, the Presbyter told them , I was going to be a "Great Preacher" and I don't want it, Let Mikey have it ! And he went, and I went the other way, Let me study. He went into Religious & Urban Studies, and I went "Theological Proper". My focus :"GOD the Father, God The SON, God The HOLY SPIRIT" and i let them do the rest.

Back to the Title Thread.

"I don't think those out of The OT are The same that are Born from Above , and coming out of GT and the ones that comes out of the 1000 year Reign"

Have anyone every got a "Biblical Snap Shot" of this Read; As they constantly reread their Bibles. The Fleshes would come in orderly form. Like you would be in "The Zone".

I feel many will need clarity of what i am trying to bring to surface. I tell you now it is not for the "pool wader" it maybe for "Deep sea Divers"
You might get a nose bleed and the Bends coming up.

You sure brag on yourself a lot....I'm glad you don't have a problem with pride here.... Right!!

 

[Reba1]

So you Do not Believe In The COVENANT Blessing of "ABRAHAM".

Never said such a thing,

 

[Reba1]

"And Abraham is going to be for a great people and many, and all of the nations of the Earth shall be blessed in him?"

Rom 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Rom 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

 

[Reba1]

When a person is reading ones, Composition and does not fully understand the "elements' that is engrave in that position of that composition., that person cannot come to a conclusion of Understanding to arrive at a certain position. But you claim you do, but your response "Prove" you don't. You come No where Near, The LIGHT That has been place on The "Original Copied Manuscript" of The Translated Text, The Bible. And Have become "Hostile" to the TEXT.

Some times the fisherman needs to float the fly not just cast a net.

 

[Brother-Paul]

I have good sound Biblical reason to believe those who belong to GOD from the Old Testament are different than those who are "Born from Above" in The New Testament, and those who belongs to GOD out of the "Great Tribulation" and those who are saved during the 1000 year Reign.

Now I got this out of No ones book. And No one has ever brought this to my attention.

But by my repeated READINGS of the Bible from front to back. repeated readings. I can see it plain as day. For we are the Only ones, in this "GENERATION" of Believers that has been called; "The sons of GOD" and our LIFE to come had been hidden in the Old Testament, They Never, GODS people of old never saw us coming. "our life was hidden in "Christ JESUS".

Note: if you have been a "POP Shot" reader you cannot see it. In your beginning, you read over here, then you read over here, then back here, skip these verses here, Plus your Pastor was not a "Expository" preacher. And you read this teacher opinion, and that one all over the broad, when you wanted information you look up this minister view point. You cannot see it. and to read the Bible from front to back consistently, to takes "DISCIPLINE" you have to train yourselves, or One that will "Disciples" you Hard. And stay on you like a Hard Task Master. Because that DEVIL, is going to get the NEWS from His IMPS of what you are doing. "you are reading that BOOK", Training your self, in "Discipline" beginning at "The ALPHA going to The OMEGA" and Determine to do another LAP! And if you every been a "LAP Swimmer" you know where i am headed.

I have many more things to say, to justify, these things. I am not getting paid, Through out the years, I was not busy going to football games, Baseball, basketball, Of sports of TV. I played GOLF a lot , a few years, sometimes 3 to 4 times a week, I played free, only black person at the CLUB. One summer Play all the time with a Pro Player that was on the European Tour. LOL "Black Privileges". I got Good, They Fed me, Free! I got to know the owner before He built the 2 million Club house. His daughter had married a black man, and He had Mix grandkids, And He was Crazy about those Kids, and He didn't like the other Grand kids. LOL! So what i am saying i have had the time to read all of these 44 years in depth a lot of things that has related to "Biblical History" plus the BIBLE at Whole. My brother use to complain to my Mother, That I was everywhere, And since he had started pastoring, he didn't even have time to study!
I told my mother, the Presbyter told them , I was going to be a "Great Preacher" and I don't want it, Let Mikey have it ! And he went, and I went the other way, Let me study. He went into Religious & Urban Studies, and I went "Theological Proper". My focus :"GOD the Father, God The SON, God The HOLY SPIRIT" and i let them do the rest.

Back to the Title Thread.

"I don't think those out of The OT are The same that are Born from Above , and coming out of GT and the ones that comes out of the 1000 year Reign"

Have anyone every got a "Biblical Snap Shot" of this Read; As they constantly reread their Bibles. The Fleshes would come in orderly form. Like you would be in "The Zone".

I feel many will need clarity of what i am trying to bring to surface. I tell you now it is not for the "pool wader" it maybe for "Deep sea Divers"
You might get a nose bleed and the Bends coming up.

Interesting topic PB.

These are my thoughts on the topic.

Are those of the OT different to those in the NT, Yes they are.

The People
In the OT, as we read, the Jews were God's people, chosen to be an example to the world, they were but not always as God had planned for them.

Now the Holy Spirit did not dwell in the Jews, but did annoint certain ones, Moses, Isaiah, etc etc. The point not all only the chosen prophets.

They were a chosen people, a chosen race, for a chosen Nation, for G-d.

The Word/The Law
The Jews were to follow the Law (as much as was humanly possible).

The OT was an image of the future, everything pointed forward to the coming Messiah, who would be the one true sacrifice for sin, he would set them free.

The NT

From Adam to the coming Messiah was the OT era, the OT period.

From Jesus' resurrection and the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70, to His second coming is the ekklesia era, unlike the OT era where the Holy Spirit came upon the select few, the NT period the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in every born again form above heart and soul.

The fulcrum or pivot point between the OT and the NT is Jesus, the most obvious difference between the OT and the NT is there is no longer a need for the yearly sacrifice for sins, we now have direct access to repent of our sins to God, through Jesus , the OT did not have this priveledge. The old order ended when Jesus came to earth fulfilling prophesy. This event was so significant the whole world stopped counting the years and started counting anew, we were in the end times from that point, we are now in the latter days of the end times awaiting the Return in Glory of Yeshua ha Mashiach, our Lord, our Saviour.

We are saved by grace, through Faith, we are free from the law (part of them!)

I think that is enough for now, it highlights the basic difference between the OT and the NT, the difference between the cosen race, the Jews, and the door being open to the world to come to God through Jesus and be saved. It hihlights why we do not have prophets any more, everything that needed prophesying has been prophesied. It hilights the difference for God's chosen people, and the born again spirit filled believers of the NT period, the ekklesia era. In the OT the Jews were God's children, in the NT we are 'Son's of God' (when truly saved)

The OT points to the NT, the NT points to the promises God has made through his son, the OT saved went to Abraham's bossom, the NT saved are in Christ and Christ in us.

In short... Emmanuel, God with us.

Just my pennetht PB, I hope it meets your approval brother

Praise the Lord.

 

[PloughBoy]

Everyone from the beginning of the world to now get to heaven the same way.

In the Old Testament the prophets told of the coming of the Messiah who would be born in the future and die on the cross for their sins. They believed without seeing that fulfilled. Then during the time of Christ. Those who were living at that time either accepted Jesus Christ's death , burial and bodily resurrection or they Didn't. And since That time -- 'we' now look back at what God's Word tells us happened. We also either accept what we read about having already happened, or we reject.

Prior to that , people who died went to Abraham's bosom -- to wait for the 'cross' to take place. As we read about the rich man and Lazarus. So when Jesus Christ died and was buried -- He went to hell in our place. Brought back up with Him those who had previously died 'in Christ' when He arose bodily on the 3rd day. From that day forward those who die in Christ are immediately With Him upon their death.

Most of the time, The Old Testament Prophets had no idea whats so ever they were prophesying about. So those type thought patterns you can eliminate. People did not believe he was "The SON of GOD" when he walked the earth. And they Sure did not believe He was The Messiah.
I don't think we are reading the same Book. You must be getting your materials form preachers and churches. And other books. that have "contaminated" "The TRUTH".

When JESUS gets back here, no churches! You can bet your dollar on that! Those are going to be the 1st to go!
"Judgment Begins at The House of GOD"! no more "Tea cakes" parties.

Prophets of Old where Move by GOD to say things, They knew nothing about , most of the Time. Even, a DONKEY spoke. And Moses spoke to a rock and the Rock heard.

The only thing most christians know to talk about is "Tithe and offerings" and "Tongues", And my church, the words, "Holiness and Sanctification" is a Stranger to their Lips. And they like to read books, on "What Heaven looks like" "A Million dollar" Industry of "Fake news". HE is putting a stop to that too

"not only will I shake the earth but, I will shake Heaven Too"

(Hebrews 12)BSB
"See to it that you do not refuse Him who speaks. For if the people did not escape when they refused Him who warned them on earth, how much less will we escape if we reject Him who warns us from heaven? At that time His voice shook the earth, but now He has promised, “Once more I will shake not only theearth, but heaven as well.” The words “Once more” signify the removal of what can be shaken—that is, created things—so that the unshakable may remain.…"

Haggai 2:6
For this is what the LORD of Hosts says: "Once more, in a little while, I will shake the heavens and the earth, the sea and the dry land.

Many have no idea what the true meaning of "Types & Shadows".

And many christians the warnings of GOD is Foreign to their Lips. For their lips are only lace with 'LipSticK"

 

[PloughBoy]

You sure brag on yourself a lot....I'm glad you don't have a problem with pride here.... Right!!

Well you tell me what do i supposed to talk about "TONGUES" and how good my pastors, my church is how good my wife is and my children is, and I live in a $500,000 House paid for in under 8 years Built from the ground in 1995 have Big pickup truck paid in full $70,000 truck , $ 70,000 Car, 40,000 car, 56,000 car, $30,000 car, One of My daughters is a medical Doctor, my wife is a retired a medical Doctor. and we don't even know what a credit card is in over 30 years! And how GOD loves the Adulterer, The Fornicator, The Liar, and how He Loves the Pedophile, the rapist, How he loves the Homosexuals, How he Loves and DIED for Murderer, The Thief, The Child Abuser, The woman beaters, The Abortionist How he died for all, only thing you have to do is say forgive me, and confess your sins, and Say: "I accept you as my savior and Lord and be baptize" and join a church and speak in "TONGUES" and what ever else i supposed to do and believe and say. "Now I am Saved , filled, with the Holy Ghost, forgiven and good to GO. And we all are "Happy Campers" simple as 1, 2, 3, Smile! It cannot get any better than that! "For GOD IS LOVE"

Now how is that. is that better. does that please you? is there anything else that will meet your approval, Massa?

PS and I bet this is not good enough for you too.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Well you tell me what do i supposed to talk about "TONGUES" and how good my pastors, my church is how good my wife is and my children is, and I live in a $500,000 House paid for in under 8 years Built from the ground in 1995 have Big pickup truck paid in full $70,000 truck , $ 70,000 Car, 40,000 car, 56,000 car, $30,000 car, One of My daughters is a medical Doctor, my wife is a retired a medical Doctor. and we don't even know what a credit card is in over 30 years! And how GOD loves the Adulterer, The Fornicator, The Liar, and how He Loves the Pedophile, the rapist, How he loves the Homosexuals, How he Loves and DIED for Murderer, The Thief, The Child Abuser, The woman beaters, The Abortionist How he died for all, only thing you have to do is say forgive me, and confess your sins, and Say: "I accept you as my savior and Lord and be baptize" and join a church and speak in "TONGUES" and what ever else i supposed to do and believe and say. "Now I am Saved , filled, with the Holy Ghost, forgiven and good to GO. And we all are "Happy Campers" simple as 1, 2, 3, Smile! It cannot get any better than that! "For GOD IS LOVE"

Now how is that. is that better. does that please you? is there anything else that will meet your approval, Massa?

PS and I bet this is not good enough for you too.

You could talk about things and concepts and not about yourself so much. The title of this thread is how you think OT saints are different from us but ninty nine percent of what you said was about YOU.

 

[PloughBoy]

Some times the fisherman needs to float the fly not just cast a net.

Depends on, who he is trying to please the creature or the Creator.

 

[PloughBoy]

You could talk about things and concepts and not about yourself so much. The title of this thread is how you think OT saints are different from us but ninty nine percent of what you said was about YOU.

If the title is to much, go talk about "TONGUES" How many "Covenants" did God Make in the Old Testament. Off your head right now, You don't even know.
If you didn't have a computer you would be dead in the water, and most likely you got 4 or 5 Bibles in your house. And do not know what is in them!

 

[PloughBoy]

Rom 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Rom 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

Why are you, listing verses, like Real Estate?

 

[PloughBoy]

Interesting topic PB.

These are my thoughts on the topic.

Are those of the OT different to those in the NT, Yes they are.

The People
In the OT, as we read, the Jews were God's people, chosen to be an example to the world, they were but not always as God had planned for them.

Now the Holy Spirit did not dwell in the Jews, but did annoint certain ones, Moses, Isaiah, etc etc. The point not all only the chosen prophets.

They were a chosen people, a chosen race, for a chosen Nation, for G-d.

The Word/The Law
The Jews were to follow the Law (as much as was humanly possible).

The OT was an image of the future, everything pointed forward to the coming Messiah, who would be the one true sacrifice for sin, he would set them free.

The NT

From Adam to the coming Messiah was the OT era, the OT period.

From Jesus' resurrection and the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70, to His second coming is the ekklesia era, unlike the OT era where the Holy Spirit came upon the select few, the NT period the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in every born again form above heart and soul.

The fulcrum or pivot point between the OT and the NT is Jesus, the most obvious difference between the OT and the NT is there is no longer a need for the yearly sacrifice for sins, we now have direct access to repent of our sins to God, through Jesus , the OT did not have this priveledge. The old order ended when Jesus came to earth fulfilling prophesy. This event was so significant the whole world stopped counting the years and started counting anew, we were in the end times from that point, we are now in the latter days of the end times awaiting the Return in Glory of Yeshua ha Mashiach, our Lord, our Saviour.

We are saved by grace, through Faith, we are free from the law (part of them!)

I think that is enough for now, it highlights the basic difference between the OT and the NT, the difference between the cosen race, the Jews, and the door being open to the world to come to God through Jesus and be saved. It hihlights why we do not have prophets any more, everything that needed prophesying has been prophesied. It hilights the difference for God's chosen people, and the born again spirit filled believers of the NT period, the ekklesia era. In the OT the Jews were God's children, in the NT we are 'Son's of God' (when truly saved)

The OT points to the NT, the NT points to the promises God has made through his son, the OT saved went to Abraham's bossom, the NT saved are in Christ and Christ in us.

In short... Emmanuel, God with us.

Just my pennetht PB, I hope it meets your approval brother

Praise the Lord.

Thank GOD! Brother Somebody knows and is Familiar with Their Bible> When you read the BOOK you cannot miss it! And the more you study it in whole the clearer the "Symposium" becomes.

I thank you brother, for at least having the hint.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

If the title is to much, go talk about "TONGUES" How many "Covenants" did God Make in the Old Testament. Off your head right now, You don't even know.
If you didn't have a computer you would be dead in the water, and most likely you got 4 or 5 Bibles in your house. And do not know what is in them!

I never said anything about tongues...Why are you? And you're judging again