Can someone plz explain what warfare means?

[riverhooks]

My word... how wonderfully fanciful, those ideas. And where are these to be found in the Bible? (If I may ask.)


Beware of what ye ask...

Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.​

(John 10:34-38 KJV)​

Rhema
(Son of God... adopted...)

Jesus judged Satan. He is condemned . He allows him to continue warfare to this day. Jesus won . Yes in a big way.

 

[brighthouse98]

There are 2 types of warfare. 1 Physcial Here you battle until whoever your enemy is becomes defeated,hence that warfare can end. 2. Spiritual here there is no end to ones battle sis, Example ( Matt 4:1-11) Here Jesus battles the devil himself,and wins this battle,but was the enemy fully defeated?? Ah no he was not,and so as Sue so wisly stated in Eph we have armor, but this armor does no good if we do not put it on,also notice this armor should never ever come off of us either! No one has to tell you as a believer as one battle of our mind becomes defeated because we used Jesus tools,IT IS WRITTEN!!!

We must know God's Word,and speak it as well!! Another is waiting for us. But what comes after warfare one may ask? OVERCOMING!!!! From battle we come to find out just who we are,and what we are willing to do!! ( James 1:22) We run the race till we finish sis!!( 1 Cor 9:24-27!!) And we sure learn much as well!! Hope this helps you,blessing!

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Recently I came across the terms silver cord, portals, lay lines and communication lines while looking into spiritual warefare prayers. They seem to be communication pathways/doors taken for the enemy to get in. But can anyone who knows this stuff please explain it to me! Thank you

The Silver Cord Ecclesiastes 12:1-8

the golden bowl

the warfare is within you

 

[Samson2020]

My word... how wonderfully fanciful, those ideas. And where are these to be found in the Bible? (If I may ask.)


Beware of what ye ask...

Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.​

(John 10:34-38 KJV)​

Rhema
(Son of God... adopted...)

Plainly stated Jesus came to declare the Father to His BROTHERS. We then to whom He declared the Father are His brothers, and were His brothers before being human as we were not
born of the same woman in the flesh, thus He speaks of the spiritual brotherhood.

line upon line......it would take too long and most would not read it.

The last line was put there as a tease. Indeed Jesus has been declared God by the Father, that happened after His ascension, even though it was written in the OT.
Example "He shall save His people." That occurred after His death, resurrection, and the giving of the holy Ghost. Still occurs day by day. It wasn't an immediate thing. We can conclude that
God speaks at times of things to come as though they already were as He orchestrates the outcome therefore He knows what the end will be.

If Jesus were God prior to His infilling of the Holy Ghost at Jordan then He would not have needed the infilling?? This was His born from above experience as it behooved Him to be made
like unto His brethren. As we all come into the kingdom we come through the same spiritual birth that He went through, though not to the same measure of the fullness of the Holy Ghost.
It was a passing of the torch so to speak. There was one perfected, even though sinless, man, who became a life giving spirit just as His Father of the flesh and spirit. He now baptizes in the
Holy Ghost just as He received from His, and our, Father. Thus perpetuating the act of giving of life. To each who receive Him they have been given the power to become the sons of God, and if sons then heirs of God, and joint heirs with Jesus whom is their brother from the beginning.

If they are to overcome and sit with Him in His Fathers throne, and they are indeed sons of the living God who possess life within themselves then they too have been glorified and the word
you quoted "I said, Ye are gods." will have been fulfilled. They will exist in complete harmony with each other as well as their Father and older brother in love, thus will have become one
as Jesus prayed that those whom the Father had given Him would be one just as they were one. John 17:11

 

[B-A-C]

Plainly stated

Hmmm... I don't know if I've ever heard a more convoluted explanation actually.

and were His brothers before being human

No, this isn't in the Bible, in fact it says the opposite.

1Cor 15:45 So also it is written, "The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
1Cor 15:46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual.
1Cor 15:47 The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven.

This was true for everyone except Jesus.

If Jesus were God prior to His infilling of the Holy Ghost at Jordan then He would not have needed the infilling??

So you believe Jesus was once once a mortal who became "a" god. (lowercase g) I have to wonder if you are LDS/Mormon?
First as I already gave scripture for for, we don't exist as spirit children before our physical bodies exist.
Second, Jesus was always God, even before the world existed. He Himself created the world, the universe and everything in it.
but God created the heavens and the earth. so... Jesus is God.

To each who receive Him they have been given the power to become the sons of God, and if sons then heirs of God, and joint heirs with Jesus whom is their brother from the beginning.

Based on the false premise above.

and they are indeed sons of the living God who possess life within themselves then they too have been glorified and the word
you quoted "I said, Ye are gods." will have been fulfilled.

So then, as the Mormons believe, we will becomes gods as well, and perpetuate the godhood?
Of course the sin of Satan was he wanted to be like God and ascend his throne above Gods.

 

[Samson2020]

1Cor 15:45 So also it is written, "The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

The first man Adam was created in the flesh by God and the spirit of life breathed into him, he was born outside the carnal mind as he had not been cursed for disobedience yet.
The last man Jesus was identical to Adam in that He was a man born outside a carnal mind as God was His Father and the cursed carnal mind is passed down from a childs Father.
Adam never got past a living soul as he was disobedient and the curses came upon all for his disobedience.
Jesus became a life giving spirit due to being obedient even unto the death of the cross and thus was highly exalted by God after being perfected . Heb 5:9

1Cor 15:46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual.

The natural man is something that we all partake of.
"Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also Himself likewise took part of the same."
"Wherefore in all things it behooved Him to be made like unto His brethren." So when did we become His brethren?????????
He being foreordained became the first of the born from above Sons of God by ordination as He was the first to receive that baptism in the Holy Ghost that made Him a spiritually
begotten Son.

For to which of the angels did He ever say:

"You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You"?
And again:

"I will be to him a Father,
And He shall be to me a Son."


Present tense ,Today, at His flesly begetting. And future tense will be, shall be, after birth, and more importantly after spiritual begetting.
Now the real question is why did Jesus need to be spiritually begotten?????? The answer is simple He was predestinated to be the first born spiritually of the Father, among many brethren?
Kind produces after kind, a horse will produce only a horse, same for a dog or cat. What is spiritually born of God becomes a Son/son of God thus a god. After all Jesus is the express image
of the Father, and when Jesus shall appear we shall see Him as He is for we SHALL BE LIKE HIM, the express image of the Father.

So you believe Jesus was once once a mortal who became "a" god. (lowercase g) I have to wonder if you are LDS/Mormon?

I am neither LDS or Mormon, but if Jesus was not a mortal man then explain how it is that He was killed and truly died, for if He did not die then He was not raised from the dead?
Then ask yourself did Jesus raise Himself from the grave or does the Bible say that God (His Father) raised Him from the dead. Rom 10:9, Acts 3:15, Acts 4:10 etc...
The only way that one can die is to be mortal. Why else would He pray to have this cup removed from Him? He did not want to suffer and die even though He knew why and what the reward would be for Him and us. Carnal mind is a tough character, it affected Him to the point He sweat blood.

Another point on that statement is why else would God warn Joseph to take the child( Jesus) into Egypt while the murder of all the young male children was being committed? If He was
immortal then, why move Him from danger, as He wouldn't have been in any danger if immortal?

This was true for everyone except Jesus.

If that were true then the scripture I just quoted in yellow above is wrong

Of course the sin of Satan was he wanted to be like God and ascend his throne above Gods.

No where in my posts will you ever see an attempt to cast anyone above the Father, including Jesus, who is in subjection to the Father once God has become ALL and In us all.
Eph 4:6 "One God and Father of All, who is above All, and through All, and In you All." This ALL includes Jesus, as the Father was IN JESUS reconciling the world unto Himself.

And Jesus said unto Mary:
John 20:17 "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father; and
to my God and your God.

These 2 verses alone should provide proof that Jesus was not God, nor was He immortal until after God raised Him from the dead and glorified Him.

If these truths are hidden from your eyes then I am not the one that can open them for you to see.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Recently I came across the terms silver cord, portals, lay lines, and communication lines while looking into spiritual warfare prayers. They seem to be communication pathways/doors taken for the enemy to get in. But can anyone who knows this stuff please explain it to me! Thank you

your question is already answered

 

[B-A-C]

If that were true then the scripture I just quoted in yellow above is wrong

Rather than repeat everything in these threads. Jesus wasn't always human.

Is Jesus God?

It seems this subject comes up at least every 6 months or so. The answer isn't always a simple yes or no to everyone. We have modalists, who would.. "sometimes". We have oneness unitarians who would say ... "never". We have trinitarians who would say "always". And even if the answer is...

www.talkjesus.com

Jesus Christ - 'the man"

Let me start off by saying Jesus is God. Part of the trinity. No argument about that here. But I want to focus on the human part of Jesus for a moment. Jesus favorite name for Himself was "the Son of Man". This phrase is used over 100 times in the New Testament. Most of those verses are...

www.talkjesus.com

 

[Rhema]

If your purpose is to undermine what I share...

To whom might you be speaking? It rather wasn't clear.

What seems clear, though, is your spirit of "I'm always right".... so there's that, meaning that no discussion is possible with you. Is that truly the case? Please be so kind as to let me know so I don't waste my time any further.

And if your post was addressed to me, then one ought to have added in the text @Rhema.

Kindly,
Rhema
And I'd be glad to discuss what I posted.

 

[Rhema]

He allows him to continue warfare to this day. Jesus won .

That's sounds rather stupid, doesn't it? That the person who wins lets the other guy continue to fight and wreak havoc? If the other guy is still fighting, it doesn't sound like anyone won.

The victor STOPS the aggression of the one defeated. Anything else makes no sense. (Truly.)

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

was the enemy fully defeated?? Ah no he was not,

So you too believe Jesus to have lied as do many others??

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power-/-authority is given unto me in heaven and in earth.​

(Matthew 28:18 KJV)​

Rhema
(No offense intended when I point out that Mat. 28 came well after Mat. 4)

 

[Rhema]

Plainly stated Jesus came to declare the Father to His BROTHERS.

And just where, then, did Jesus plainly state that?

For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.​

(Matthew 18:11 KJV)​

​

I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.​

(Mark 2:17 KJV)​

We then to whom He declared the Father are His brothers

And so then you believe that everyone (all humans) are His brothers? For He gave charge to His disciples to declare the Father to everyone.

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:​

(Matthew 28:19 KJV)​

If Jesus were God prior to His infilling of the Holy Ghost at Jordan then He would not have needed the infilling??

And prior to His incarnation?

but did empty himself, the form of a servant having taken, in the likeness of men having been made,​

(Philippians 2:7 YLT)​

In order to "empty" something, wouldn't there have needed to be something there in the first place?

Perhaps I shouldn't ask about this passage...

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:​

(Philippians 2:6-7 KJV)​

Indeed, please leave it as rhetorical.

The last line was put there as a tease.

Well I must say I am disappointed that you ignored most of my other questions. (But no matter.)

Rhema

 

[B-A-C]

Jesus has won, but Satan hasn't completely given up yet. ( Every one of these verses was written after Matt 28:18; )

Eph 6:10; Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might.
Eph 6:11; Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil.
Eph 6:12; For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Eph 6:13; Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Eph 6:14; Stand firm therefore, HAVING GIRDED YOUR LOINS WITH TRUTH, and HAVING PUT ON THE BREASTPLATE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS,
Eph 6:15; and having shod YOUR FEET WITH THE PREPARATION OF THE GOSPEL OF PEACE;
Eph 6:16; in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
Eph 6:17; And take THE HELMET OF SALVATION, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
Eph 6:18; With all prayer and petition pray at all times in the Spirit, and with this in view, be on the alert with all perseverance and petition for all the saints,
Eph 6:19; and pray on my behalf, that utterance may be given to me in the opening of my mouth, to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel,
Eph 6:20; for which I am an ambassador in chains; that in proclaiming it I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

You still need your "war armor" on.

1Pet 5:8; Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

Not only do we have to fight against Satan, we have to fight against our own flesh.

Rom 8:6; For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace,
Rom 8:7; because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so,
Rom 8:8; and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

Gal 5:16; But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.
Gal 5:17; For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please.

The flesh and the spirit are at war with each other.

2Cor 10:3; For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh,
2Cor 10:4; for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses.
2Cor 10:5; We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ,

Rom 7:23; but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members.

Jas 4:1; What is the source of quarrels and conflicts among you? Is not the source your pleasures that wage war in your members?

1Pet 2:11; Beloved, I urge you as aliens and strangers to abstain from fleshly lusts which wage war against the soul.

 

[Dave M]

but if Jesus was not a mortal man

John 8:58
Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”

Jesus was fully man, and fully God.

 

[Dave M]

John 20:17 "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father; and
to my God and your God.

These 2 verses alone should provide proof that Jesus was not God, nor was He immortal until after God raised Him from the dead and glorified Him.

Do you know why he said this,, yet just a little while later when the deciplies were hiding out in the Room, Jesus walked in through locked doors, and said TOUCH ME I am not a spirit.

what changed from the time that Jesus said to Mary do not touch me, to the time he said to the deciplies touch me, he was is in the same form.

 

[Rhema]

( Every one of these verses was written after Matt 28:18; )

Well there are quite a lot of people who don't believe Jesus...

 

[Rhema]

John 8:58
Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”

That doesn't quite prove what you might think...

"Truly, truly, I say to you, Abraham was before, I am (now-/-here)."​

A guy walks into a room and says, "Hey, where's Joe?" and Joe answers from the back εγω ειμι.

It's also the same text in the next chapter -

Some said, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, I am (εγω ειμι).​

(John 9:9 KJV)​

The KJV added in the word "he" ("I am he") because that's what the phrase meant... "I'm here".
Surely the blind man wasn't calling himself god, now was he?

Thanks,
Rhema

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Melissa I don't know what those Silver Chord thing you mentioned are, but Ley Lines are paths of magnetic energy that circle the Earth like a net....Sue is correct in that the occult uses them....The Nephilim built many structures at junctions of these ley lines all over the planet...Pyramids all over the world, places like Stonehenge and Maccu Pichu and Baalbek...Some of the places they built were for communications on Earth and a few other planets they occupied and some were for portals...doorways from one place to the other...The alignment of these places is phenomenal.
When it comes down to it though, Melissa, it's not important to our warfare with these entities....All you need is to know the Word, believe it, and command these entities... You have the same authority as Jesus has to send those things away...Did you see that? You have ALL the authority that Jesus has...Right there in your mouth....Speak the Word

 

[B-A-C]

Well there are quite a lot of people who don't believe Jesus...

1Cor 15:24; then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.
1Cor 15:25; For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.
1Cor 15:26; The last enemy that will be abolished is death.
1Cor 15:27; For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.
1Cor 15:28; When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

Jesus reigns! Jesus has the authority! No one is arguing that point. But the enemies are still running around. The deciding battle has already been fought.
But there are still some skirmishes going on. There were some Japanese on some islands after WWII, that kept on fighting for up 7 years after the war was over.
Either they hadn't heard, or didn't believe it when they did hear.

 

[brighthouse98]

No Rhema Jesus did not lie,you quoted something he has always had. All power,He has all power,all I was saying is that within that power he did not destroy the enemy. Do you believe the devil is dead? Because that is the only way he can be defeated. If still living then he is still a threat to all believers,and that we know is true. He sure is no threat to our Jesus! And remember ( Matt 4:8-9) How is it that the devil could offer Jesus something if he did not own it?? Hence Jesus did not call him a liar on this,he just said Go. I know you did not mean ill with your comment and I sure mean no ill with my reply. blessing!