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Why does God send people to hell?

@Rhema It's been some time since we interacted. I'm NOT JW and nowhere near one.
You're playing off words.
Do you know what inference is? I recall from prior interactions you don't.
Police use it as one of many fundamental ways to solve cases; some so old that all involved are dead.

God IS Trinitarian whether you believe it or not. The word doesn't have to be in the Bible for it to exist.
Your opinions of me are irrelevant and not an argument.

Yet you started the word play. I entertained it for you.
Trying to write a book when you've strayed off topic.
What was important was written down. What was NOT was NOT written down.

Funny how you, one person, like so many think you've "figured it out and are the expert".
I know I'm not and have never claimed to be.

Who told you it was a forgery? Of course this world wants you to believe that ALL secular evidence is "forged" and "fake".

I do know when your name pops up here you almost always write novels in responses.

I never stated Pilate was was insignificant. The statement means NO person in all of history significant or otherwise has every word they ever spoke recorded.

The Romans were some of the best record keeps in all of humanity. They were also the best torturers.

Roman documents would be far more reliable than some rando non-Christian who happened to witness his Crucifixion.

Nowhere does Jesus say "Worship my Earthly mother and she will be a Queen in Heaven." the latter of which they believe.
You can dismiss "Pilates Letter to Cesear" all you want but that's your subjective opinion.

Back to the topic, Jesus spoke on Hell more than anyone.
 
@Rhema It's been some time since we interacted. I'm NOT JW and nowhere near one.
Of course not, but now you know how I felt when you called me a Catholic.

You're playing off words.
Indeed, there was some word play, especially since you hadn't know Pneuma could mean flatulence. I have to amuse myself somehow when I run into posts that are not well written.

Do you know what inference is?
I'd say an educated assumption, but it's still an assumption. (Ah, and I see the dictionary agrees with me. Note the word "assumption." Also "guess."

Police use it as one of many fundamental ways to solve cases; some so old that all involved are dead.
One of the reasons why I don't like cops - they like to guess and make assumptions. I've found all but two to be bullies and not the sharpest tools in the shed. (Sorry, make that three - forgot about one.) Not that I have a lot of interaction with cops, but one did "un-arrest" me once (never having even arrested me). About a decade or so ago Camden NJ de-funded their entire police force. Then created a completely new one - different structure, different people, and most of the crime stopped (crime by cop, I mean). About three decades ago I made a written complaint about an officer to the chief of police where I had been living. He privately thanked me, because the cop had a lot of internal infractions, but the chief couldn't fire the B@*&^% without a complaint from the public.

So out of the dozen or so interactions I've had with police - they suck. Control freaks who can't be bothered to understand the law or even municipal codes for that matter. One moron stopped me while I was walking because I had an Amish beard and hat. But I will admit that it's hard to keep perspective when everyone lies to you.

God IS Trinitarian whether you believe it or not.
Nonsense. But I'll leave you to your guesses and assumptions. And given the touchy nature of the moderators, I'll decline to engage on this topic and step away from the third rail. But as I mentioned, all the Mariology of the Catholic Church is based on the same kind of inference as is the Trinity. You do realize that Trinity leads to Theotokos. Another word that cannot be found in scripture.

Funny how you, one person, like so many think you've "figured it out and are the expert".
I know I'm not and have never claimed to be.
I glad you know your limitations. Now if you could just understand that I don't post about those things which I haven't figured out. But you seem to think that Nothing can be "figured out." Good luck with that.

Trying to write a book when you've strayed off topic.
Me? You do realize, I had posted to Garee when you (ahem) butted in? (Post #430) Playing hero? Or just having writer's block?

(And good luck with writing that book.)

What was important was written down. What was NOT was NOT written down.
Paul hadn't thought so about the genealogies. But yes, there is nothing written down about when Jesus had to take a crap. Have you ever thought about why the gospels have two different genealogies for Joseph, the husband of Theotokos?

And the "camel" through the eye of the needle? What does your religious traditions tell you about that?

However, there ARE some things written down that were not well written, the author having assumed (inferred) that his audience would understand. Take this word "hell" for example. When the KJV translators decided to use the word Hell, it was a bad selection (or was it purposeful mistranslation?). The common reader in 1611 would think of the Religious Tradition of Dante's Inferno (pure religious fiction from the 1300's), instead of what the Jewish reader from 2000 years ago would know Hades to be.

And where does your "common sense" come in when encountering these two verses?

From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.​
- Matthew 4:17 KJV
From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say: Do penance, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.​
- Matthew 4:17 DRB

Who told you it was a forgery? Of course this world wants you to believe that ALL secular evidence is "forged" and "fake".
You didn't read the link did you. The "letter" is attributed to an unknown author in the Fourth century. It references "Scriptures," something that no Roman would care about. The Emperor hadn't even been seen in Rome for five years. (Etc. etc.)

I do know when your name pops up here you almost always write novels in responses.
Well.... Excuuuusssseeee Meeeee (says a modern prophet of our times). Too bad for you, I guess. I'm a touch typist, and would rather I post something comprehensive and useful - it doesn't take me long at all. But if you can't be bothered to read and think, that's on you. (Go play some video games or something.) Or just ignore what I post.

The statement means NO person in all of history significant or otherwise has every word they ever spoke recorded.
But that's not what you wrote, and your 10th grade English teacher failed you.

Roman documents would be far more reliable than some rando non-Christian who happened to witness his Crucifixion.
Too bad Luke didn't write down the names of his rando witnesses. (I once had someone tell me that Luke was one of the twelve. People just don't take the time to think through things. They also don't read. It's a lazy species.)

And too bad Pilate did not write to Tiberius. The execution of Sejanus triggered the crucifixion of Jesus. And no sane person would have brought anything to the attention of Tiberius that would put him in the cross hairs to be crucified next. What would Tiberius care about anything Pilate did with Jesus, given the chaos that was erupting in Rome and throughout the Empire at that time. Sorry, please feel free to chalk all that up to inference, since you haven't read my novel. :rolleyes:

You can dismiss "Pilates Letter to Cesear" all you want but that's your subjective opinion.
It's an informed opinion, and a well informed opinion at that. Maybe one should say that the Gospel of Thomas is true scripture and your dismissal of that in your subjective opinion. I gather you're not well studied in history. And don't try to bluff your position by saying you read that letter. It's about as authentic as the Shroud of Turin.

Back to the topic, Jesus spoke on Hell more than anyone.
Jesus didn't say a dammn thing about Hell. The texts use the Greek word Hades.

Please try not to be lazy,
Rhema
 
What you "offered" did not answer the question. Rather typical of your posts if I may "offer."
I have answered and questioned why you think it is necessary to add to the book of law the Bible (sola scriptura) is something missing?

Ok then how would you offer if not sola scriptura?
We (Catholics and I) just disagree on what is to be done.

I think it is important to look to the end of a matter which as it seems you make sola scriptura without effect so you can add your own tradition. But why is there something missing in the Bible?

I would think if it looked like a duck and waddles and quakes like one, they do make all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) to no effect by the oral traction of dying mankind.

Remember if you follow Catholicism to its conclusion, they teach that a queen mother of heaven named after our blessed sister in the Lord Mary alone received the fullness Grace the complete cost of salvation.

While the rest of Creation an unknowable amount of grace (salvation) and it's off to Limbo (venial) for the younger sinners and purgatory (mortal) for the more mature.

The wondering, wondering with all power and signs and lying wonders, as if true prophecy

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
The same kind of ideology of those who made Jesus the Son of man in to a circus seal .. . . work your magic perform a miracle then when we see with our own eyes then we will believe God for a micro second.

John 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

The evidence below. .

John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

Walking by sight after the temporal things seen and not by faith the invisible things of our Holy Father in heaven (not Rome)

In that way there must be oral traditions or private interpretations (personal commentaries) as to what we think Christ is teaching, as long as they do not do despite to the fullness Christ grace the full cost of salvation.

The end of the matter salvation is better than the beginning just as patience and not false pride.

Why make the living abiding word of God to no effect with your Catholic oral traditions?

1 Corinthians 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying of the Lord (of grace ) that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Fulness salvation or unknownable remnant of grace . . .. limbo mixed with Purgatory?
 
I have answered and questioned why you think it is necessary to add to the book of law the Bible (sola scriptura) is something missing?
As usual, Garee, I have no idea what your word salad means, and I no longer wish to injure my brain by trying to interpret them.

You have a nice day.
 
As usual, Garee, I have no idea what your word salad means, and I no longer wish to injure my brain by trying to interpret them.

You have a nice day.

Sorry, no harm meant.

Perhaps learn how to rightly divide. . .interpret parables which without Christ in us spoke not

.The proper salad mix, mixing or comparing the temporal historical to the invisible eternal.

I can offer the most valuable mixing recipe which would be first part of any study.

No mix no gospel rest (Hebrews 4:1-2)

2 Corinthians 4:18; While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; (dying) but the things which are not seen (invisible) are eternal.

No pain no gain. Suffer for doing right or suffer for doing wrong. . .one choice?


Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, Is Christ formed in you?
 
So then are you saying sola scriptura is attempted murder?
What type of squirrelly logic got you to that question is just beyond my ken.

But "sola scriptura" (your scripture) certainly does murder the Gospel Jesus taught.

(Be so kind as to not reply.... my head's spinning enough from the Christian cat murderer.)
 
* Subject Heading:- Why Does God Send People To Hell?

(Psa 88:11) Shall thy lovingkindness be declared in the grave? or thy faithfulness in destruction?
(Psa 88:12) Shall thy wonders be known in the dark? and thy righteousness in the land of forgetfulness?

Hello @Chad,

I find this subject heading offensive, because it is untrue.

Hell is the place of the dead, and there is no consciousness in death, all is silent (Psa.115:17). 'The breath of life' (i.e., 'the spirit') having returned to God Who gave it (Eccl. 12:7). The place of the dead varies, it could be the grave, or the depths of the sea, but it is where the dead are, prior to judgment. They will be raised to judgement, and the fires of end-time judgment await those who have been so judged, and found wanting. The second death, in which they will be consumed and destroyed, having no further hope of reprieve, because the fires are everlasting.

See reply#340 for proof texts:-

Psa. 6:5; 30:9; 31:17; 88:11-12; 115:17; 146:3-4.
Eccl. 9:5-6,10;
Isa. 38:17-19

In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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* Subject Heading:- Why Does God Send People To Hell?

Hello again, @Chad,

The only time this can be said to be true, is in relation to the sentence of the second death, which takes place following judgement, which is carried out justly and righteously by Him Who knows the secrets of men's hearts (Romans 2:16).

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
now risen and glorified
and sat at God's right hand.

Chris
 
(Psa 88:11) Shall thy lovingkindness be declared in the grave? or thy faithfulness in destruction?
(Psa 88:12) Shall thy wonders be known in the dark? and thy righteousness in the land of forgetfulness?

Hello @Chad,

I find this subject heading offensive, because it is untrue.

Hell is the place of the dead, and there is no consciousness in death, all is silent (Psa.115:17). 'The breath of life' (i.e., 'the spirit') having returned to God Who gave it (Eccl. 12:7). The place of the dead varies, it could be the grave, or the depths of the sea, but it is where the dead are, prior to judgment. They will be raised to judgement, and the fires of end-time judgment await those who have been so judged, and found wanting. The second death, in which they will be consumed and destroyed, having no further hope of reprieve, because the fires are everlasting.

See reply#340 for proof texts:-

Psa. 6:5; 30:9; 31:17; 88:11-12; 115:17; 146:3-4.
Eccl. 9:5-6,10;
Isa. 38:17-19

In Christ Jesus
Chris

You are reading into those cherry picked scriptures as you have been taught that annihilationism is true.

You are not correct. Annihilationism is not true.

Before we discuss your scriptures, please explain either of the below two points to me:

1. How can a Creator of all be 'good' Psalm 136:1 and 'righteous in all His ways' Psalm 145:17 if He does not give us true free will or,
2. How the term ''accept me or die'' is evidence of true free will.

You have to first answer the above, as a topic that is not up for debate is God's goodness and righteousness.
 
I find this subject heading offensive, because it is untrue.

Hell is the place of the dead, and there is no consciousness in death, all is silent (Psa.115:17). 'The breath of life' (i.e., 'the spirit') having returned to God Who gave it (Eccl. 12:7). The place of the dead varies, it could be the grave, or the depths of the sea, but it is where the dead are, prior to judgment. They will be raised to judgement, and the fires of end-time judgment await those who have been so judged, and found wanting. The second death, in which they will be consumed and destroyed, having no further hope of reprieve, because the fires are everlasting.

They may be dead.. "asleep" as many verses say. Unconscious, whatever word you like... but they are still in hell. So then it's just semantics really.

But you are right, one day they will be resurrected, and some will go to the Lake of Fire.

Matt 25:41 "Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;

Rev 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Rev 21:8 "But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

It would appear that this hasn't happened yet. But everyone gets resurrected. Everyone.


John 5:28 "Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice,
John 5:29 and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.

Act 24:15 having a hope in God, which these men cherish themselves, that there shall certainly be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds.

According to this passage, the two resurrections are a thousand years apart.

Rev 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 This is the first resurrection. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.

It would also seem that... if this is the first resurrection... No one (not even Christians) are resurrected until after the tribulation.
This would go along with other verses such as...

1Cor 15:51 Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed,
1Cor 15:52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
1Cor 15:53 For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.

When it the "last" trumpet? After the seven trumpets of the tribulation?

Matt 24:29 "But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
Matt 24:30 "And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory.
Matt 24:31 "And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

Is this the same trumpet that sounds "after the tribulation"? Or, is it another trumpet that sounds.. "after" the "last" trumpet?
 
What type of squirrelly logic got you to that question is just beyond my ken.

But "sola scriptura" (your scripture) certainly does murder the Gospel Jesus taught.

(Be so kind as to not reply.... my head's spinning enough from the Christian cat murderer.)

LOL Sorry I know what head spinning all is about I am married . Why suffer?

You are confusing what you call "my scripture" with "private interpretations of men personal commentaries".

Like Luke 9 that the apostles had become confused. . Christ hiding the gospel understanding teaching how to walk by faith (the unseen eternal things of Christ) .At one point they had become so confused they tried to elect a new Alfa leader >they thought Jesus went off the deep end their heads spinning. In the end of the matter, he rebuked the apostles and revealed what manner of spirit they were of (natural converted mankind)

Therefore, without parables that reveal the gospel hidden understanding Christ spoke not. It would seem you have the wrong kind of fear of parables? distrust

His scripture written by the finger of God hewn from two tablets. (two represents God not seen has spoken) the New Testament and old written on both sides with no room for oral traditions of men .

When Moses came down the oral traditions were be worshipped to continue to us the word two to represent Christ has spoke . He moved Moses to destroy the first two showing the law is broken and this-time commanded Moses to hewn out two new tablets then again with the finger of God he wrote the same living words on both sides establishing the law of faith. "Let there be" (1) and "it was God alone good".(2)

Exodus 32:15 And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.

Why do you think he wrote on both sides leaving no room?

A shortage of granite? ;)
 
(Psa 88:11) Shall thy lovingkindness be declared in the grave? or thy faithfulness in destruction?
(Psa 88:12) Shall thy wonders be known in the dark? and thy righteousness in the land of forgetfulness?

Hello @Chad,

I find this subject heading offensive, because it is untrue.

Hell is the place of the dead, and there is no consciousness in death, all is silent (Psa.115:17). 'The breath of life' (i.e., 'the spirit') having returned to God Who gave it (Eccl. 12:7). The place of the dead varies, it could be the grave, or the depths of the sea, but it is where the dead are, prior to judgment. They will be raised to judgement, and the fires of end-time judgment await those who have been so judged, and found wanting. The second death, in which they will be consumed and destroyed, having no further hope of reprieve, because the fires are everlasting.

See reply#340 for proof texts:-

Psa. 6:5; 30:9; 31:17; 88:11-12; 115:17; 146:3-4.
Eccl. 9:5-6,10;
Isa. 38:17-19

In Christ Jesus
Chris

Hello again, @Chad,

The only time this can be said to be true, is in relation to the sentence of the second death, which takes place following judgement, which is carried out justly and righteously by Him Who knows the secrets of men's hearts (Romans 2:16).

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
now risen and glorified
and sat at God's right hand.

Chris

You are reading into those cherry picked scriptures as you have been taught that annihilationism is true.

You are not correct. Annihilationism is not true.

Before we discuss your scriptures, please explain either of the below two points to me:

1. How can a Creator of all be 'good' Psalm 136:1 and 'righteous in all His ways' Psalm 145:17 if He does not give us true free will or,
2. How the term ''accept me or die'' is evidence of true free will.

You have to first answer the above, as a topic that is not up for debate is God's goodness and righteousness.
[Ref:- reply#452: in relation to replies #450 & #451]

Hello @KingJ,

The verses that I referenced in reply#450 related to the state of the dead, in order to rightly appreciate what Hell truly is. Reference to the second death in reply#451 was in defence of my objection to the subject heading's claim, that God sends people to Hell.

Hell as the grave is where our bodies are place at death, for it is the place of the dead. There is no consciousness in death, for the brain is no longer functioning, and the breath of life (or spirit) has gone back to God who gave it.

The believer in the Lord Jesus Christ is reckoned by God to be, though dead, merely, 'asleep in Christ', for they have the hope of life in Christ Jesus, which they will enter into at their resurrection out from among the dead.

The dead, outside of Christ, will also be raised, to judgment, and will be judged justly and righteously, by Him Who knows the secrets of men's hearts. Some will enter into life (Romans 2) others will face the second death. The second death being as it sounds - DEATH, absolutely and irretrievably, leading to complete destruction.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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1. How can a Creator of all be 'good' Psalm 136:1 and 'righteous in all His ways' Psalm 145:17 if He does not give us true free will or,
2. How the term ''accept me or die'' is evidence of true free will.

You have to first answer the above, as a topic that is not up for debate is God's goodness and righteousness.
Hello again, @KingJ,

In answer to your questions.

1) We do have free will.
2) 'Accept me or die', is not the option we are presented with.

It is made clear in Romans chapter two that the judgment of God will be carried out justly and righteously, by the One Who can do so, for He knows the thoughts and intents of men's hearts. There will be many who will enter into life whom mankind will have dismissed on the grounds of the limitation of their own understanding: Whom God, who knows the heart, will receive. For He is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and swift to bless.
No one will be denied life, without a judgement which is undertaken with the utmost thoroughness, by Him who sees all and knows all: and those who have never heard the gospel, will be judged by Him Who knows how they would have responded had they done so.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
They may be dead.. "asleep" as many verses say. Unconscious, whatever word you like... but they are still in hell. So then it's just semantics really.

But you are right, one day they will be resurrected, and some will go to the Lake of Fire.

I'm not the one who's confused Garee.


Why make it too heavy to carry?

LOL Reminds me of one of the think not doctrines. Not to heavily for him. God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

Matthew 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

Why deny all things written in the law and prophets prophets (sola scriptura) making it to no efect with I heard it through the father grape vine oral traditions of dying mankind .

The Holy Spirit turned it right side up inspired from heaven coming down like rain . .not the devil earthly

Acts 24:13-14 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me.;But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:. . .(Sola Scriptura the living word )
 
. How the term ''accept me or die'' is evidence of true free will.

Kind of a cynical view of Christianity, it makes me want to ask why did you choose Jesus?
But I think people still have free will, indeed, I believe the majority of people when faced with that question will choose death.
That is their choice. It may not be a good one, but it's what they chose.

But let's flip this around, instead... of you have to accept me or die.
I think most Christians would say, Here's a life preserver. You don't have to drown if you don't want to. Here is a way out.

Matt 7:13 "Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.
Matt 7:14 "For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.

This seems to say, most people will choose death.

Even people who have heard of Jesus/God will reject Him.

Rom 1:21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,
Rom 1:32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.

But there is no other way.

Acts 4:12 "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

John 14:6 Jesus *said to him,
"I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
 
The second death being as it sounds - DEATH, absolutely and irretrievably, leading to complete destruction.

Rev 2:11 'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.'
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.
Rev 20:14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.
Rev 21:8 "But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

You don't cease to exist here.

Rev 14:9 Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
Rev 14:10 he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
Rev 14:11 "And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name."

Rev 20:8 and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore.
Rev 20:9 And they came up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them.
Rev 20:10 And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Matt 25:46 "These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
 
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