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I'll let Nick speak for himself.
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Why do you try to shame people? Your need to shame others is riddled throughout all of your posts.
But I know what you're doing, because I know who you are.
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No. You shame people to make yourself feel superior. I've seen it before, and no doubt I'll see it again.
I'm not your Lord. Yet I know enough that whatever rebuke the Lord may bring to you through my words you will reject in order to keep the false narrative of your superior ego intact.
Those who speak as you do are totally oblivious to the log in their own eye.
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread
- 2 Thessalonians 3:10-12 KJVSo what work do you do? What job do you have? Enough so that you can eat of your own bread?
An honest person would reply truthfully,
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what we hear must always align with scripture indeed, not that i have any idea what tangent you 2 are on at this point
i also dont believe jesus was wealthy in any way, there was one part of the bible where he was to feed hundreds of followers or even more, and he didnt have any money for them, but the followers themselves brought up the money to buy a small amount of bread and something else, which jesus made to satisfy everyone
"Throughout Christian theology, Jesus is considered to be as rich as God Himself, being the second person of the Trinity. He possesses all power, authority, sovereignty, glory, honor, and majesty. However, during His time on Earth, Jesus willingly gave up His eternal riches and most of the privileges of His deity."
ive checked translations and they all acknowledge rich but they dont specify this as materialistic wealth - which, in gods eyes isnt really rich anyhow- right?
amen, thats a good one.
i dont always agree with him but he has never come across as someone with NPD, which btw is a pure form of narcissism although being 6% of the western population, NPDs tend to be very aggressive
what kinda royalty puts their son to work as carpenter? even in todays society carpenter is super low rank. jesus was fed mainly/solely honey of what i recall as his family didnt have money, back then honey was for the poor people
i think you have both had a good amount of dough on your hands, but if you were to battle in whos more rooted in materialism i would place my bet on Rhema - i think you win this exact point.
that would have been very profitable business, maybe the son of god simply didnt realize the huge potential monetary gains? haha
thats an assumption until you can prove it
per week right? otherwise you would quite literally be doing gods work because only god can work that many hours a day
i think you 2 should ask yourself if youre truly upset after communicating and realize that being upset is opening a portal for demons to enter and simply stop
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Context.
You want to theologize everything into oblivion be my guest, but Paul directly said that Jesus was rich, and there were no "spiritualizing" modifiers in that passage. But no, seeking your own ideas you would distort what is written. Hey! That's how they got the Trinity fiction.
There is no end to such nonsense,
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Why don't you learn the dang language like I did? Then you'd know what was actually written.
Even the pitiful resource of Strong's Concordance says "wealthy" for the Greek word G4145 plousios.
LINK to the Liddell Scott Lexicon for G4145 πλούσιος plousios
A.wealthy, opulent,
It just amazes me how you people can just pull this crap out of your butt and not have a clue what you're talking about.
Christianity is doomed,
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This is just beyond stupid. First, you have the wrong person.
And John was clothed with camel's hair, and with a girdle of a skin about his loins; and he did eat locusts and wild honey;
- Mark 1:6 KJVThis was about John the Baptist. There is nothing in scripture about Jesus being fed anything.
Second, the phrase "Milk and Honey" was always about having an abundance of wealth.
And I have said, I will bring you up out of the affliction of Egypt unto the land of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, unto a land flowing with milk and honey.
- Exodus 3:17 KJVSo the Magi gave Him, what, a mere pinch of gold dust? A spoonful of Frankincense? Just enough to be symbolic? And they scraped up a bag of Myrrh from the gutter off the streets?
All three are rare and expensive, as was honey.
How you can be content with so much ignorance truly stuns me.
Support your claim, if you hadn't just made it up in your own head. Honey was extremely expensive. (Think it through.)
Of for the luv of the inane. What kind of stupid assumption thinks that Jesus was put to work by his family? There is no such passage anywhere that Joseph and Mary put Jesus to work as a carpenter. You need to look at what you believe and stop making things up.
For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
- 2 Corinthians 8:9 KJVJesus, though he was rich, purposefully chose to identify with the people, his people, who indeed were poor. Jesus himself chose the trade of a tekton, not flaunting his royal family's wealth.
And you'd lose that bet, dude. Hands down.
You don't know squat about NPDs.
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So God told you something that is actually against scripture, and you thought it was wise to listen to the voice inside your head. Okay.
But it gets worse, doesn't it. From your link:
I rather wish all here could read this.
I will allow that maybe there is something lost in translation, but when asked what you do for a living in accord with scripture, you say you work for free running a tavern and God showed you where to best display the Brandy.
A tavern is where alcoholic beverages are sold that people consume to get drunk.
So you're selling booze.
And are proud of it.
I don't lie. Period.
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Being rich is to have a little more of what a person's needs.
Elon Musk uses the riches of Christ's wisdom to reveal the corrupted oligarch that grant free sex changes to hardened criminal.
Elon Musk the end of DEI racial discrimination as well as sexual misogyny, misandry. . the left racist. Gender dysphonia's
Some like the millionaire oligarch Bernie Sanders try and make it into a battle of the oligarch's. . in a hope of adding womans tampons in little boys' restrooms.
Millionaires jealous of the billionaires.
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Well aren't you something to behold.... better than God, even.
So now it's gambling. (This just gets worse as it goes.)
Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.
- 2 Thessalonians 3:12 KJVMissed it? Oh no. I quite understood the nonsense.
People drink alcohol to get drunk (and don't fool yourself, getting "buzzed" is getting drunk). ...duh? You're just enabling alcoholics (whether they be angry drunks, sad drunks, or happy drunks).
Then again, maybe you do live in such a $hit-hole where the water is just too dangerous to drink. And I can allow for a cultural thing (like wine in France or Bier in Germany) where they still drink to get drunk.
No Christian would glory in selling booze. I'll decline the offer.
For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
- Luke 1:15 KJVAnd be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
- Ephesians 5:18 KJVBut go ahead, tell me that none of your customers ever get drunk.
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Sounds like you are promoting DEI.
Can't buy gospel truth with Mammon riches of this world. or what some call indulgences or a bottle of wine at the brothel.
Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding
I am not the one that promotes Catholic brothel wine and sex.and call it self edification.(I did it, it proves it)
In a whole series of Parables (4 ) hiding the unseen spiritual understanding beginning in chapter 15. The parable of the waiting Abba Father.
In Chapter 16 Christ reveals no man can serve two infallible teaching masters .Mammon the riches of this dying world and sola scriptura "all things written in the law and prophets or Moses" Moses (the law giver) and the prophets
Luke 16:13-31 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.;And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.(the law and prophets the gospel) And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law (sola scriptura)_to fail.Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.;There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,;And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.;And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.;But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.;And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.;Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:;For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.;(sola scriptura)And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
Three times with three denoting the end of a matter sola scriptura. . .( If they hear not Moses and the prophets).
it's not Mammon Brothel the temporal things seen that can give us the faithful understanding of Christ not seen working in Christian's, sons of God .
I was hoping you would look at the parable in Luke "no man can serve two good teaching masters" Mammon the riches of this world and the true riches sola scriptura (all things written in the law and prophets or Moses and the prophets).
In that parable using the things seen as a metaphor the rich is promoting your ideology share with the dead relatives today called patron saints
Even when Jesus arose from the dead, they did not believe what their eyes see. They hated sola scriptura all things written in the law and prophets
Lukre 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
Isaih 8 speaks directly of the law and testimony the prophets or Moses and Elias. Rightfully dividing those who seek riches from the dead called necromancy. Hebrew word. . Darash, to seek used in two ways of the dead and the other to seek after our living God for those dead in their trespass and sin without God in this present world
Those who sought after the dead (patron saints) neglected to hear the interpretation of signs and wonders a sign to the whole world .They made the law of faith. "Let there be" (the law) and "it was good the testimony" the two-fold law of faith working as one
Note . . .Bolded black (dead)
Note. . Bolded Green (eternal life)
Isaih 8:18-20 Behold, I and the children whom the Lord hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the Lord of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion.And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?;To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word,(sola scriptura) it is because there is no light in them.
You offer the puffed-up flesh profits for nothing, nada and then make it count for everything. You have no power to rebuke.
God speaks through his word not through the apostles sent with Christ word as it is written (sola scriptura) You would have to learn how to drink milk that teaches us God is gracious before you try and eat meat
1 Corinthians 3:1-8And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?;For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
Look at it from the respective or everyday living. My gracious wife sends me as her apostle with two list written on both sides with no room for extras on a mission to the supermarket. Just like when God sent the apostle Moses in Exodus .
When Mr G lee the apostle returns. . mission accomplished he receives the apostle's reward . . two homemade peanut butter cookies and a cold glass of milk reminding our God is gracious just like my wife
Exodus 32:15 And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.
we all have power to rebuke, even the homeless man that smokes crack as soon as he gets just enough for one hit of his favorite poison can speak truth. a clock is right twice a day. we must be open to truth from all sides but primarily it must be from god and from the bible
yes i believe that is a sin
BUT I AM WRONG!
The Bible doesn't call gambling a sin as such, although the Bible warns against the love of money and get-rich-quick schemes.
if his purpose is to spend the money on a righteous purpose then it should be righteous
i believe alcohol is one easy way to get possessed or at least get strongly influenced by evil spirits. we call alcohol spirits for a reason, white spirits... hm? i dont believe one could justify selling crack cocaine to feed some poor children while on the other hand causing demonic possession and death - the bible doesnt coincide with breaking bads narrative no
whenever i go to church i never feel like drinking any wine or any such, i just sit in quietness. its a protestant church and i simply dont go when theres a female priest. i know their ways are not faultless so i let my intuition guide me in what would be pleasing to god
Yes from God as it is written. Dying flesh of the Son of man profits for nothing .
Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
The Lord is of one mind and always does what his soul alone pleases. He makes our hearts soft by the water of the word (sola scriptura)
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Well then one should open a brothel. It would make more money AND have more sinners around to evangelize!!
(Sorry, buy your view is wonderfully Machiavellian - that the end justifies the means.)
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Unless you meant to say, "if his purpose is to spend the money on a righteous purpose then it's origin should be righteous as well."
The living, abiding word, Christ's faithful power as a labor of His Love. It Is two-fold. Two throughout the Bible denotes God has spoken .Two the Father with the Son. Two the church.
The powerful two fold law of faith. . ."let there be Light " and good testimony "God his very essence is Light and not that he can only create it temporal.
God in a parable introducing himself. "Let there be" And the light "it was God alone good .
The show "Song of songs" began . . curtains lifted. . . lights action .
On day three the glory of God the literal light of the whole world departed. His glory it will appear in the new heaven and earth then there will be no darkness as night and no temple
The gospel rest
Hebrew4: 9-12;There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.;For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.;Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.(no faith)
;For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
He gives us little of born-again faith even calling sons of God, Christian ye of little faith (or Emanuel power).
Not little to rebuke us but little to humble us
The same kind of faith the household power of faith as it is written we should have that labor for one another.
1 Thessalonians 1:3 Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;
well first of all sex out of wedlock is a sin while playing cardgames is not a sin
hmm yes i am that which just makes it even more holy that i decide to do whats right - just like the sinner turning to repentance, compared to the one that was raised in a perfect amish society never knowing anyone or seeing anyone who sinned
i dont understand, virtually all money today is fiat currency, ie - is based on nothing but tricks and schemes aimed to undermine anyone but the wealthy - but its still a medium which can be used for good.
i think you have to quote in the bible where its claimed that gambling in itself is a sin
