Johanabrahams said:

The New Jerusalem is on earth for already 14 years now. It is Daddy, Jehovah's Family Life.

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Fourteen of your bartender years?

Where on earth is it ??? Jehovah witness headquarters, Warwick New York. or Rome Vatican City???

Has the last day under the Sun as a resurrection or rapture occurred?

Revelation 21And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.;And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Johanabrahams said:

he New Jerusalem is on earth for already 14 years now. It is Daddy, Jehovah's Family Life.

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The Bible says that doesn't happen until Satan is destroyed, I wasn't aware that already happened.
Also the Bible says there won't be enemies of God or other religions around when that happens.

Christ4Ever said:

Which among New Heaven, New Earth or New Jerusalem has not been completed by you or are you tasked with them all?

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Christ4Ever said:

You have said New Jerusalem has been on earth 14 years, and yet you have also said you are creating it here on earth. Acknowledging Revelation 21 you have done, implying by your words that a New Heaven and New Earth has occurred as well.

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Johanabrahams said:

Specially about the New Jerusalem and how Dad Revealed it to me and how I am going about to create it on earth. Where it is including the manifestation of Jesus all over the earth for every eye to see.

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Care to explain the above, since your opening post explains nothing of this.

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Johanabrahams said:

So maybe the mods can now see their folly and open the thread of Wisdom too. For which they were already Rebuked and the Truth of that Rebuke was never "Judged" by God.

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Since as you say we've been rebuked for our action, no use crying over spilled milk then. I think now since you continue to reference to it anyway, it might as well be deleted in its entirety. This way you won't have to be concerned about it or make reference to it.

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Johanabrahams said:

So maybe the mods can now see their folly and open the thread of Wisdom too. For which they were already Rebuked and the Truth of that Rebuke was never "Judged" by God. It still stands. Where all in the world had the opportunity to Judge it. And it never happened. So it is good if it is opened in Truth in following up the Truth of the opening of this thread. For all to be able to speak on it and enter that Ruling Ability that was also given us in Jesus. To manifest the "second coming of Jesus" through those who enter that Wisdom.

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The subject of "Rebuking" was fine, but if you use it to attack staff, it is not. So, both threads have been deleted.

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Johanabrahams said:

This is what God mean when we are in "house meetings" like this one and all the Gifts are manifesting. And all can speak now. And then there is room for "Judgment" of what everyone is saying.

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The problem is that this is not your house. Until you realize that it is not governed under your laws/rules I do believe that the threads that were deleted will not be the last ones, and continued to post negative comments concerning staff, will only expedite your receiving warnings, and eventually being banned. I know that talks of warnings & being banned, are an abhorrence to you, but like warning or not warning a child to not touch the fire, the hope is that letting them know the consequences is sufficient that they won't get burned. However, we know that some children need to experience it for themselves and test those who have given them such guidance. This is very much like a saying which is really from scripture that goes "Stupid is as stupid does".

To learn, you must love discipline; it is stupid to hate correction. Proverbs 12:1

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Johanabrahams said:

If on the other hand opening of a "closed thread" is a lie and not from God then the opening of this one is a lie. And then we should now Rebuke this opening of this thread. If there is no Rebuke against the opening of this thread then the Truth stands that threads can not be opened because God closes them Himself. So the person who originally closed it should tell us why God said it had to be closed.

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No problem, since both are deleted and can't be viewed.

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Johanabrahams said:

Of course this thread and the topic in here should now be addressed and spoken on. Where the thread for Rebuking is still open and this Rebuke can be handled there to see if it is a lie or the Truth from the Living God as Head everywhere. But mostly "ignored" by humans and their laws they have in His Place. That is why those are called the "sons of perdition' with their organization the "Synagogues of Satan".

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Of course you can always rewrite it, without attacking staff, and it will be accepted. However, attack staff within its subject matter and it will be deleted as the other one was.

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Johanabrahams said:

Sure, moderator. It was just the "opening post". And it was so "foolishly" locked. Before we could go into it in depth. And you loose all opportunity to Rebuke it in Truth. Or grow by it when it is Spiritual Revelation to some who are ready for it.

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Foolish response and totally unnecessary. I'll cross it out since it is unnecessary and see if the rest is worth the time to read.

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Christ4Ever said:

You have said New Jerusalem has been on earth 14 years, and yet you have also said you are creating it here on earth. Acknowledging Revelation 21 you have done, implying by your words that a New Heaven and New Earth has occurred as well.

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Johanabrahams said:

That was the time God created Me a Wife of His, moderator. And the Wife is the last Person of the Family Life of God. And as seen here she is the Person He loves and likened unto the "city of gold" and all its characteristics to show us how Great His Creation of His Wife is. So all entering it experiences now a "New Heaven and Earth" by that Life they Live in being The Perfect Child or Son in the Name of Jesus in their Perfect Family Life. As is seen in my ministering in my hometown.

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Just going to be a challenge to unpack all of what you've said here. I'll try to keep it short.

So, what you are saying is that New Jerusalem's existence is dependent upon you having been "created" from your first years of life on earth as a wife (one of many) to god (WOG). You are also saying that New Jerusalem (NJ) is actually a gateway to the "New Heaven and Earth" (NH&E)?

Also, one must be perfect as a Child/Son in the name of Jesus in "their" Perfect Family Life (PFL). Meaning that there are many PFL's by which one can be perfected by in the name of Jesus, and each has their own Wife of god overseeing/guiding them.

You are also saying that the NH&E are already in existence, but in a different realm of existence then the Heaven & Earth we now live in that requires a NJ to enter by.

Does this then mean that the other wives of god also are creating their own gateways/New Jerusalem's in order to access NH&E? Is it possible that one is more efficient than others, and so hasn't been able to create their own gateway, but can use another's WOG's gateway and send others there to travel to NH&E?

I'll look at the rest of the post, I do believe this is a start in trying to put layman's terms to what you are trying to communicate.

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Christ4Ever said:

Since as you say we've been rebuked for our action, no use crying over spilled milk then. I

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Johanabrahams said:

So you admitted I did Godly Rebuking to you, moderator? Which is How God Rules in Wisdom. Unlike how you are ruling with threats and bans in using the "fear" spirit to rule your "members/slaves"?

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Nope, just acknowledging what you have stated to be the case.
Oh, the ruling part is purely how you see it, and if "members/slaves" are how you see the rule as being, count yourself also a "member/slave" and this by your hand.

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Christ4Ever said:

The subject of "Rebuking" was fine, but if you use it to attack staff, it is not. So, both threads have been deleted.

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Johanabrahams said:

You just admitted that it was Rebuking of Love from the Living God, moderator. Now you change to it being "evil attacking"? But you have no evidence? You removed the "evidence"? Seems there was none that is why you "deleted the evidence". But only the guilty deletes evidence.

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Nope. As a Moderator, it is within my authority to remove content that is clearly unacceptable, especially when it has been written by a member who has, by their own designation, referred to others and by default themselves in such a manner as "member/slave".

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Nick

Christ4Ever said:

The problem is that this is not your house.

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Johanabrahams said:

I don't have a "house", moderator. All my forums and my social media platforms are given to God as it should be. He is the Head there as it should be. But here where you "robbed God" of being the Head and became it yourself everything is now showing the lack of God being the Head here.

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House is an analogy for this site, which does not belong to you and was used to reflect how you should comport yourself and respect it as such.
Whether you can truly make a representative statement for God, rather than the Adversary, remains to be determined.

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Christ4Ever said:

I know that talks of warnings & being banned, are an abhorrence to you,

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Johanabrahams said:

To me only or to all God's Kids and God Himself too, moderator? Is that not how the religious treated God Himself too when He walked the earth in Jesus and Rebuked them?

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Warnings and knowledge of being banned is not meant to be liked. Most who join here understand the conditions by which they must adhere while here. There are always a few who do not like to be reminded of it. I do make mention of it so, that whoever they may be are given the benefit of the doubt, before receiving such consequences and may not plead ignorance.

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Christ4Ever said:

like warning or not warning a child to not touch the fire, the hope is that letting them know the consequences is sufficient that they won't get burned.

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Johanabrahams said:

Sure. Consequences of actions are allowed by God only. Your way it that you threaten to use the fire to burn the child if he is "disobedient". That is threatening and not warning, moderator.

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1 Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God. 2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished. 3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you. 4 The authorities are God's servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God's servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong. 5 So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience. Romans 13:1-5

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Christ4Ever said:

Just going to be a challenge to unpack all of what you've said here. I'll try to keep it short.

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Johanabrahams said:

"Unpacking" is a Scriptural endeavor or a "work of iniquity", moderator?

There is no Scripture on "unpacking" and thus we accept it as a "work of iniquity". And as such it just become strife which is an evil practice done by the Baby God's when anyone participate with you, moderator. I said you can rebuke the lie in what I said or Edify us all some more if what I wrote is the Truth. Your turn, moderator. The "prophet spoke". Now the others Judge.

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Unpack: analyze (something) into its component elements

The words you say will either acquit you or condemn you." Matthew 12:37

And the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul's message. They searched the Scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth. Acts 17:11

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Johanabrahams said:

Enjoy yourself, moderator. Nobody is taking that from you. I spoke and now you spoke and then all can decide for themselves which is the Truth that will give the Spiritual Growth.

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So, you are not going to comment on my "unpacking" of what you have posted to see if what I have deduced about what you have shared is correct or not?

I await your answer to this question.

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Christ4Ever said:

1 Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God,

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isn't it interesting that this verse completely disappears when Hitler is mentioned.

There are a number of things that happen before the New Jerusalem appears. There is a timeline.

First you have the Great Tribulation, (Rev 6 to 17)
Then you have Jesus coming back to conquer the nations the first time. ( Rev 14:17-20, Rev 19:11-12 )
Then you have the millennial reign. ( Rev 20:1-6 )
Then you have post millennial rebellion, and final defeat of Satan ( Rev 20:7-10)
Then you have the resurrection of the unsaved and the great white throne judgment (Rev 20:11-15)
A pretty big event, is that there will be a New heaven, and a new Earth. The old ones will pass away.
There won't be a sea on the New Earth. ( Rev 21:1 , Matt 5:18, Matt 24:35, Mark 13:31, Luke 16:17, Luke 21:33, 2Pet 3:10 )

These are all pretty major events, they will be hard to miss. Then finally 'AFTER' all of these things.

Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea.
Rev 21:2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them,

This doesn't happen until there is a new heaven and new earth. The New Jerusalem won't be some nebulous spiritual shangra-la.
It will be a real physical place with physical dimensions. Spiritual places don't have physical dimensions.

Rev 21:15 The one who spoke with me had a gold measuring rod to measure the city, and its gates and its wall.
Rev 21:16 The city is laid out as a square, and its length is as great as the width; and he measured the city with the rod, fifteen hundred miles; its length and width and height are equal.
Rev 21:17 And he measured its wall, seventy-two yards, according to human measurements, which are also angelic measurements.

Once all this is done, Jesus hands the keys of the kingdom back to the Father.

1Cor 15:24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.
1Cor 15:25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.
1Cor 15:26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death.
1Cor 15:27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.
1Cor 15:28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

None of this has happened yet.