Why would anyone's will be for torture 24/7 for eternity?
Why does God send people to hell?
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I have some string bloodlines. John Peter Corn is one. Look at his lines. They are full of adoptions. If you have 1 Christian name you're born into the family 2 Christian names means that you were born AND saved into the family. Do all families do this by saving others?
I am related to the Hollands too. They believed in Saviors. They believed that once you were saved, you saved others. So, technically, one member believed there's only saviors and killers.lol.
I've been rejected from every church out there. I want truth. I will dig till I get it all.
I am related to the Hollands too. They believed in Saviors. They believed that once you were saved, you saved others. So, technically, one member believed there's only saviors and killers.lol.
I've been rejected from every church out there. I want truth. I will dig till I get it all.
I believe different than others. I'm hunting the truth. I believe that Hell is equal to Jail. I took the Hebrew language for years to find my answers. I believe Jesus was telling us to stay away from government. He tells you to stay away or you'll go to jail. I wonder is Jesus wasn't saying...do not kill or you will reside in jail the rest of your life earning to hate others and you'll never have love again. J and h are often mistaken in Hebrew, and every jot and tittle change things. Any thoughts?
He calls them " tax collectors". Who collects taxes? Money is the root of all evil? Who makes the money?
I believe that government is what Jesus was warning us about. I believe they are the Egyptian rulers. Why did he get upset that the church had money? Money is the wrong way.
He calls them " tax collectors". Who collects taxes? Money is the root of all evil? Who makes the money?
I believe that government is what Jesus was warning us about. I believe they are the Egyptian rulers. Why did he get upset that the church had money? Money is the wrong way.
As the Holy Spirit stated to us
The phrase "they rejected the light preferred the darkness" is a quote from the Bible, specifically John 3:19-20 on Bible.com, which describes people rejecting truth because they prefer to continue in sin. In this context, "light" represents truth, righteousness, and Jesus, while "darkness" represents sin and evil deeds. Those who prefer darkness do so because they fear their actions will be exposed and judged if they come into the light.
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This gets into semantics, but I agree with you.
Hell is temporary (jail). The Lake of Fire is permanent (prison).
Rev 20:14 “Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.”
I do not believe the same way that most believe.
When I was 7, I didn't want to believe science and religion. I asked my father if I had to believe it. My father told me that my beliefs were my own and I choose my beliefs. He said that I could believe something even if I knew it was wrong. He said not to let anyone tell me otherwise. So I never believed in science. So when you ask my beliefs, I was a free thinker all of my life.
I've tried each religion. People do not accept my beliefs. I'm always afraid to even speak them.
I'm here to hunt answers.
My father was hidden away and he never knew who his father was. I'm going to know it all.
For me, I do not fully understand your question. I don't research anymore. I'm into exposing. I have a book coming out soon. Its about " belief".
I hear people say they are believers. They have jobs money and all the things money can buy. Do they believe in money? Yes.
I do not believe in money.
Do they vote? I do not vote.
if you vote, you kill either unborn infants.or death row I mates and I Do Not Kill.
I'm alone in my beliefs.
When I was 7, I didn't want to believe science and religion. I asked my father if I had to believe it. My father told me that my beliefs were my own and I choose my beliefs. He said that I could believe something even if I knew it was wrong. He said not to let anyone tell me otherwise. So I never believed in science. So when you ask my beliefs, I was a free thinker all of my life.
I've tried each religion. People do not accept my beliefs. I'm always afraid to even speak them.
I'm here to hunt answers.
My father was hidden away and he never knew who his father was. I'm going to know it all.
For me, I do not fully understand your question. I don't research anymore. I'm into exposing. I have a book coming out soon. Its about " belief".
I hear people say they are believers. They have jobs money and all the things money can buy. Do they believe in money? Yes.
I do not believe in money.
Do they vote? I do not vote.
if you vote, you kill either unborn infants.or death row I mates and I Do Not Kill.
I'm alone in my beliefs.
I do not just accept a belief.system. A belief is a group of beliefs. You follow all of it. Of you follow it and believe it, you live it.
So when I sign up for something and sign, I believe in it.
Like vulnerable children.
They see the Information 3 times, they "believe" it. So they see it
1 when the teacher explains it
2 homework
3 Test
The test is signed and dated as your belief.
When I was 7 I asked my father if I had to believe science. He told he that I could believe anything I wanted to that my beliefs were my own and that I could believe anything I wanted EVEN IF IT WAS WRONG and not to let anyone tell me otherwise.
I knew then that I could go to school and look a teacher in the eyes and never believe a word of it.
My beliefs are not like anyone else's because I don't believe easily.
I think that as we see as red, someone else sees it grey...no one sees the same things. We eat chemicals that affect our thinking.
If you want to understand, eat only what comes out of the earth for one month and you will feel more brain function and it could change your beliefs. In the earth, not the purchased " dirt looking mix".
I'm really here to ask questions.
So when I sign up for something and sign, I believe in it.
Like vulnerable children.
They see the Information 3 times, they "believe" it. So they see it
1 when the teacher explains it
2 homework
3 Test
The test is signed and dated as your belief.
When I was 7 I asked my father if I had to believe science. He told he that I could believe anything I wanted to that my beliefs were my own and that I could believe anything I wanted EVEN IF IT WAS WRONG and not to let anyone tell me otherwise.
I knew then that I could go to school and look a teacher in the eyes and never believe a word of it.
My beliefs are not like anyone else's because I don't believe easily.
I think that as we see as red, someone else sees it grey...no one sees the same things. We eat chemicals that affect our thinking.
If you want to understand, eat only what comes out of the earth for one month and you will feel more brain function and it could change your beliefs. In the earth, not the purchased " dirt looking mix".
I'm really here to ask questions.
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I havent seen many questions from you, it seems you mainly stand at a pulpit and tell others what you believe.
I apologize.
I came hunting and responded to posts I read along the way.
I'm looking for help understanding my geneology .
In my lines, if you have one Christian name you were born into the family. 2 Christian names, you were born Into the family AND SAVED.
I was thinking that that we all have them as we save others? I just don't see them. I've hunted 50 years.
If you're a Christian, you're saved and you save others. So all Christians are saviors.
So look at John Peter Corn. His children.
The adoptions are the jews coming in. They are adopted into his name, CORN. He saved them.
But I've asked in every single religion about the way I believe and I am reading every post I can that might point me in the right direction. Of it were true, where is my true family? I'm alone in my weirdness.
MY father never knew who his father was. He taught me his ways. He lived next door to a German and the family told no one who my father's father way. My father died not knowing who his father was. It wasn't documented by fear. All who witness died with the secret.
I know. But I'm the only one who knows so I can't prove it.
I was toxed in 2021 with 36 toxins, 24 were carcinogens. I had a 2 year life expectancy. So technically, I'm living a different life, because I survived.
I never thought much about this, but my father wanted me to register with my tribe before I died. When I got toxed, I tried and was denied. But I did what he said and I'm finally ok with that. I accept it. I do not accept their authority for geneology because who you are should not cost. So I do not support these sites by paying. Even government respects the freedom of information act (when it's pointed out for litigation.)
I'm retiring in January
Then, I'm living out my 2025 new years resolution to accept who I am. I'm just me. Then on my birthday Im retiring. I'm returning to.my maiden name so I can be who I was born to be, back to my roots, which can then be planted again.
I will try to stick more to mission.
I've been afraid all of my life to me tion my beliefs. They scare people. I don't like that. I learned not to talk about my beliefs.
But I was raised on a southern farm hidden and my geneology hidden by adoption.
You know, this post has made me realize something. I already know who I am. I just wanted to fit I. And be accepted. I'm tired of fearing homelessness again that tries to bite me here at the holiday seasons each year. I'm living with my kids now. We all split everything. We're doing it. We're making it. My family is awesome and I realize that I am their mother. We are the family of me. My family. They have accepted me since birth and by birth.
You've helped me tremendously.
I'm no longer hunting.im good with who I am. I feel that I've felt so lost when I have begun with a new family who believes in me.
Honestly, the shock of learning at Thanksgiving that you're retiring in January was a shock. I felt desperate. I never worried about retirement because I dont work for "wages". I won't be filing for retirement either. So I should have no fear of retirement.
My new years resolutions is to accept who i am and be all that I can be, with the new year and a birthday celebration in the same month.
Thank you for questioning me on this. I'm really not here to pick and point. I'm trying to connect dots.
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Semantic here. We can't save anyone. Only Jesus can do that. There is only one Savior.
But, we can witness, evangelize and share Jesus. In fact as you said, we are to share the Gospel.
So yes, we can introduce people to Jesus, but in the end.. only Jesus can save.
Alright. I wasn't asking that. My answer to that is this...
My relatives have different beliefs.
The one you mentioned, my family believes there's 2 kinds of people..
Killers and Saviors . Once you're saved, your job is to save others, meaning that you are a savior as well. It's to see which one Conquers the other, according to my family linked to the beliefs that Love Conquers All.
I'm not arguing, just seeking.
Just hunting my family here.
My relatives have different beliefs.
The one you mentioned, my family believes there's 2 kinds of people..
Killers and Saviors . Once you're saved, your job is to save others, meaning that you are a savior as well. It's to see which one Conquers the other, according to my family linked to the beliefs that Love Conquers All.
I'm not arguing, just seeking.
Just hunting my family here.
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We are not saviors, but we can be a witness and point people to Christ, but Christ does the saving as others have said.
And we are not conquering anyone.
People decide whether to accept the gospel or not.
Would a person first have to believe in a supreme being? And if they do, what is the person to do since beliefs cannot be consciously chosen?
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It's an absolute requirement that you must believe in Jesus/God.
If you're a hardcore Calvinist, then no, no can choose God, He chooses you.
For all other denominations, you have free-will. You can choose to believe in God.
Perhaps you can help me. I have never been able to consciously choose any of the beliefs that I have, and I would like to be able to do that. Since you say that beliefs can be chosen, I wonder if you might explain how you do it. What do you do at the last moment to instantly change your one state of belief to another? What is it that you do that would allow you to say, "OK, at this moment I have a lack of belief that ‘x’ exists or is true, but I choose to believe that ‘x’ exists or is true and now instantly at this new moment I do believe that ‘x’ exists or is true?
Maybe you could use something like leprechauns to demonstrate your technique. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, a leprechaun is "a fairy peculiar to Ireland, who appeared in the form of an old man of minute stature, wearing a cocked hat and a leather apron",
and who stores away his gold in a pot at the end of a rainbow, and if ever captured has to grant three wishes to the person who captures him.
So, assuming that you don’t already have a belief in them, how about right now, while you are reading this, choose to believe - be convinced without a doubt - that they exist. Now that you believe in leprechauns, my question is, how did you do it? How did you make the instantaneous transition from lack of belief to belief?
I was 7 and attending school. I told my father I didn't want to believe in science. I asked him if I has to believe it.
My father said that beliefs are mine. He said that I could believe something wrong if I wanted to but that my beliefs werei e and not to let anyone tell me otherwise. So at 7, I rejected science. I didn't believe it. But since I didn't believe school at all.
You do choose your beliefs. But when you believe a " system of beliefs", well, you don't see each sin, you just follow a bad leader.
When Aficanized bees mate with honey bees, they overcrowd the gives and they become aggressive. If you leave it too long, the bees start to kill their unborn infants. So the government says kill them all. We have all the killing Chemicals!
The gardener says, Remember, DO NOT KILL.
He separated the hives and put a new queen in each hive.
I follow the birds and the bees. I'm here for the planet.
Personally, the Bible is a new language that I don't understand. I read it in its original Hebrew text.
I also believe that if you're eating chemicals in your food, that you are under their influence .
Try eating home grown put of the earth food for 2 weeks and rethink this.
We eat food grown in fake dirt. The earth has the force. Eat from the earth. Then you'll see.
