rstrats said:

But you still haven't said why you think that Romans 14:6 relates to the topic.

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I would offer It has to do with ceremonial eating and drinking. Shadows and types used in parables . . . a sign to the unbelieving world. Believers have prophecy

Ceremonial laws used as parables, witnessed in John 4 .

The other apostles in hunger went to Mc Donald's when returned asked if Jesus was hungry Jesus spoke of the spiritual food the meat of the word the powerful let there be will of the Holy Father

John 4:31-34;In the mean while his disciples prayed him, saying, Master, eat.;But he said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of.Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat?;Jesus saith unto them, My meat (power) is to (both) do the will of him that sent me (#1), and to finish his work.(2#) . . . . . . . one work two fold

Ceremonial shadows of the invisible eternal. In that way we cannot judge one another

Same with the ceremonial sabbath baptism when Aarons two sons added to sola scriptura making it a sign to themselves. The fire consumed them not a hint of smoke on the ceremonial attire. It remained a shadow as sign to the pagan kingdoms. Believers have prophecy.

Roman 14 :6;He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Just to let you guys know, I am not a seventh day guy, just seeking to show scripture via what certain things say.

Mat 5:17
(17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.


Jesus came to completely fulfill the law, he was perfectly obedient in all of it, and he became our perfect sacrifice.


Mat 12:10-13
(10) And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
(11) And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
(12) How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.
(13) Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other.

Mat 12:14
(14) Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him.


Who was asking if it was lawful to heal on the sabbath ?

It was the Pharisees and it was not Jesus that said this, nowhere in the bible did it forbid to heal on the Sabbath.

And the pharisees added many fence laws to God's sabbath.


Mat 12:1-5
(1) At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.
(2) But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.
(3) But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
(4) How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?
(5) Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?


Now I will quote comments from someone who is not for the seventh day sabbath, under the new covenant.

Many do not like this preacher, and I can understand the various reasons, but I am using his quote, just to show an explanation.

Now this quote will be in reference to verse 2, about the plucking of corn.

(Jimmy Swaggart)

(this was a law they had made up themselves; the law of Moses permitted them to do what they were doing [Deut. 23:25])


So it was the pharisees that said this about the plucking of the corn not being lawful, and not Jesus.

And then Jesus proceeds to answer them according to how they answered him.

Then he shows an example of David.

Here is a comment on this:

(Jimmy Swaggart)

(David was not a Priest, so by the law, could not eat one of these special loaves in the Tabernacle; however, he wisely judged that a positive law forbidding the laity to eat this bread, which it did, ought to yield to a law of necessity and of nature, which it did!)


Notice that this was done under Old Covenant times, and God was not angry at David, and allowed the immediate need to be met.
But then we get to the priests, which it says: "have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?"


This is also speaking of Old testament times, and Jesus was using the pharisee's argument so to show that what they were saying was false, or what they accused of profaning the sabbath, was not really profaning the sabbath, here is a comment on that:


(Jimmy Swaggart)

(The priests did as much work, if not more, on the Sabbath Day in their preparing the Sacrifices, plus other duties, than possibly any other day! and yet they were not accused of breaking the law.)

Millennial reign

We know that under the New covenant, concerning the days they held their sabbath feasts on, has been blotted out, nailed to the cross.

But what about the time of the Millennial reign?

Isa 66:23-24
(23) And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
(24) And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.


Zec 14:16
(16) And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

According to these millennial reign verses, they shall be going from one sabbath to another to come to worship before the Lord, and they will also keep the feast of Tabernacles, if it says that in the word, whether we like or not, that is what is going to be done.

So it appears that it is a yes in the millennial reign via the sabbath and the feast of Tabernacles.

These are the sabbaths and non-sabbaths that have bee done away, and of course there is the seventh day sabbath.

What were the handwritten ordinances that was against us referring to ?

Deu 31:24
(24) And it came to pass, when Moses had
made an end of writing the words of this law
in a book, until they were finished,

Deu 31:26
(26) Take this book of the law, and put it in
the side of the ark of the covenant of the
LORD your God, that it may be there for a
witness against thee.

It was pointing to the book of the law which was placed in the side of the ark of the covenant, and many things mentioned therein pointed to the ceremonial law, and even the ceremonial law, the Israelites were not able to perfectly keep.

And these laws were not wrong, just that man failed to perfectly keep them, and in that way it was a witness against them, but now they have been blotted out, and I love the way the KJV says it, which matches up with Deut. 31:24, which in Deuteronomy, it says: "writing the words of this law", and Colossians says, "the handwritten ordinances".

And then in verse 16 it says let no man therefore, which points back to the handwritten ordinances.

So let no man therefore judge you in meat (meat ordinances, such as the clean and unclean meats), in drink (drink ordinances, such as the Nazarite vow), or of an holyday (the old testament feasts), or of the new moon (new moon observance), or of the sabbath days (plural), notice it does not say the sabbath day singular, but rather plural.

Now in the N.I.V. it says not to judge concerning a religious festival, but in the old testament, God never called his days religious festivals, but rather holydays, and how were they holy ? Because , he , the holy one, made them.

So it lines up more with what the KJV says, which is not holiday, but rather holidays.

And it has nothing to do with Christmas or Easter, but rather with the Old testament holydays that God created, which were part of the handwritten ordinances that were placed in the side of the ark.

And the KJV says Sabbath days plural, which spoke of the days they held their sabbaths on , under the old covenant, and it shows there were many, which there was the 7th day sabbath, and the other 7.

Gerbolski said:

So it lines up more with what the KJV says, which is not holiday, but rather holidays.

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I am just making a correction here, when I say not holiday, but rather holydays, I meant holydays with an "y".