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Why does God send people to hell?

and then will I avow unto them, I never knew you. Depart from me, workers of lawlessness.from Darby at Bible Gateway.
I consider lawlessness, as killing, stealing, and things that hurt people, and so on.
I'm different here. I never could start my own business because I couldn't lie. I can't buy something for $1.00 then tell you it's worth $5. I believe it's " Lawlesness".
Of course I see things my own way. I'm not responsible for your choices!! I'm just telling you because you asked. I'm just hunting others that believe my way so I can determine where my geneology is. I'm not concerned with challenging your views. You have your right to make your own choices.
 
th1bill said:
Scripture, any scripture, cannot be correctly understood without the light of all scripture shining upon it. And Scripture does not teach what you have learned somewhere/
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I see. I believe thatvyour brain works differently than mine.
I litigated this. People that eat certain foods do certain patterns. You are what you eat.
I do not judge your beliefs. I just judge for myself. It goes by your own understanding. I consider myself a child level and an imperfect human. I just do the best I can with what i have. I really merge with a positive connection. I don't do so much research anymore. I just go with my own thinking at times and do it My Way. I go with what I see before me.
 
Corn said:
I see. I believe thatvyour brain works differently than mine.
I litigated this. People that eat certain foods do certain patterns. You are what you eat.
I do not judge your beliefs. I just judge for myself. It goes by your own understanding. I consider myself a child level and an imperfect human. I just do the best I can with what i have. I really merge with a positive connection. I don't do so much research anymore. I just go with my own thinking at times and do it My Way. I go with what I see before me.
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Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart and LEAN NOT ON your OWN understanding. In all your ways, acknowledge Him and He shall direct your paths.
 
Christ4Ever said:
lol - don't take it personal brother! You brought her name up, not I!

Just seeing her stances that don't go hand in hand with Scripture that is all. I mean the person she might be running against could be worse! So, when voting, and I do vote, I use scripture against the positions they take making the call for me, unless the Holy Spirit tells me/moves me to do otherwise.

I would suggest not to use that "not to judge" position as a carte blanche for not using discernment, especially when dealing with the world of politics. So, she holds a few positions you agree with, but I notice you don't talk of any you disagree with her on. Like you said about yourself, and could be said about all but Jesus, we are not perfect. Still, we don't use that as an excuse for not trying to be. We do that by trying to be like Christ Jesus, an example we should follow.

That this lady may be pro-environment, doesn't negate some of the other items that she is for. You can multi-task on these things :) Your concern on that should be less than the non-believer because we as believers have a New Heavens & New Earth to look forward to! (Revelation 21:1) That is all I will say on the matter, since unless I move to AZ, or she goes national, I won't have to deal with having to choose either way.

That she may know Christ Jesus as Lord and Savior in her life, to me is more important than all else concerning her. I tried to find out about her belief system but could not find anything. Not that I tried very hard, but maybe you know where she stands as far as that goes. We should be more concerned with her salvation, and that of her family, which has eternal consequences, then the things that are temporal and will one day be gone.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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You are a great judge.
I've seen judges that could do no better.
But I'm more simple. I just can't get into religion that deep. I start to get lost.
I just try to identify Love because that is what I learned...you'll know them by their Love. So I don't know much of her views but she believes me. I can't find anyone else. I called over 100 attorneys. When I. Started proving things?,She started litigating and others joined her and I feel the power of Love. It goes through obstacles, and she is sharing news with the other AGs to save us all.
I'm following her.
I don't care if she's imperfect, so am I. I see her cases and I feel that she loves her people. I love her for it.
I follow those that show love for others.
 
Corn said:
You are a great judge.
I've seen judges that could do no better.
But I'm more simple. I just can't get into religion that deep. I start to get lost.
I just try to identify Love because that is what I learned...you'll know them by their Love. So I don't know much of her views but she believes me. I can't find anyone else. I called over 100 attorneys. When I. Started proving things?,She started litigating and others joined her and I feel the power of Love. It goes through obstacles, and she is sharing news with the other AGs to save us all.
I'm following her.
I don't care if she's imperfect, so am I. I see her cases and I feel that she loves her people. I love her for it.
I follow those that show love for others.
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Rather than judge, consider an evaluator or one of discernment. If it weren’t for the Holy Spirit, I wouldn’t even have that.
If love is your highest priority, then you should be following Jesus, not another imperfect person like the rest of us.
Remember, if not for God, you would not know what love is.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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The essence of God is Love. I follow Love without judging. It's the only way I find that prevents fear.
 
I have voices in my head. One is God. One is Thomas Holland. One is unknown.
These 3 keep popping up flags into my brain. With this, I have created my own religion. It's mine.
God keeps saying "LOVE ALL THE SAME".
Tom says "Love Conquers All."
Unknown says "Earth was created for you.
Then Elvis, my cousin keeps saying "I did it my way.".
When I see something and I don't know what to do, flags pop up.
For example...
I saw that toxins were in our food using the Yuka app.
God says live all the same...so I figure I sue not for myself but for all ...
I think... how do I do it???
Tom says..."Rob the rich and give it tothe poor." So I use the justice system that I do not believe in but I know. It's the way I knew, so I listened to Elvis.
He keeps talking about the devil in disquise.
Honestly, I do not follow a religion. They all rejected me anyway.
I follow my heart.
I saw a president steal from the poor and gave it to the rich and the world loved it.
I raised my voice and gave my evidence to support not following his ways to the leader of my state, Kris Mayes. She sued him and has been after him with u ending power every since. She is now naming Kingpins!!! She is fearless.
She is ROBBING THE RICH AND GIViNG IT BACK TO THE POOR!!!
I think She could be my relative of Tom, or God, or the Unknown.

It's about what you do with what you know.
Information carries a responsibility. The strong look after the weak.
Love is the Power that Conquers all.

For me to believe it, all voices in my head must agree. If they do, I follow them.

I consider this " My Way ".
I work out my own salvation my own way.
 
Corn said:
I have voices in my head. One is God. One is Thomas Holland. One is unknown.
These 3 keep popping up flags into my brain. With this, I have created my own religion. It's mine.
God keeps saying "LOVE ALL THE SAME".
Tom says "Love Conquers All."
Unknown says "Earth was created for you.
Then Elvis, my cousin keeps saying "I did it my way.".
When I see something and I don't know what to do, flags pop up.
For example...
I saw that toxins were in our food using the Yuka app.
God says live all the same...so I figure I sue not for myself but for all ...
I think... how do I do it???
Tom says..."Rob the rich and give it tothe poor." So I use the justice system that I do not believe in but I know. It's the way I knew, so I listened to Elvis.
He keeps talking about the devil in disquise.
Honestly, I do not follow a religion. They all rejected me anyway.
I follow my heart.
I saw a president steal from the poor and gave it to the rich and the world loved it.
I raised my voice and gave my evidence to support not following his ways to the leader of my state, Kris Mayes. She sued him and has been after him with u ending power every since. She is now naming Kingpins!!! She is fearless.
She is ROBBING THE RICH AND GIViNG IT BACK TO THE POOR!!!
I think She could be my relative of Tom, or God, or the Unknown.

It's about what you do with what you know.
Information carries a responsibility. The strong look after the weak.
Love is the Power that Conquers all.

For me to believe it, all voices in my head must agree. If they do, I follow them.

I consider this " My Way ".
I work out my own salvation my own way.
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Again, follow Jesus.
Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me. John 14:6
Otherwise, you’re just spinning your wheels and going nowhere, fast or slow.
That you have voices that you have identified, minus one, in your head that dictates what you do, is troubling. Without a foundation which for the believer is the hearing of Jesus Christ, through God's Word, you leave yourself to the whims of any traveling spirit/legion that passes by.

I could tell you to read 1 John 4, but something tells me you won't. So, instead in the hope that you do, I share it with you now in love brother. Caring more to what happens to you, eternally, then the here and now that passes away.

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the [spirit] of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak [as] of the world, and the world hears them. 6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.

9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son [to be] the propitiation for our sins.

11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12 No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us. 13 By this we know that we abide in Him, and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit. 14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son [as] Savior of the world. 15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. 16 And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.

17 Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love. 19 We love Him because He first loved us. 20 If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? 21 And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God [must] love his brother also. 1 John 4:1-21

I would tell you to continue reading into chapter 5 for further understanding, for the believer. Yet, I will share the verse that in truth screams to what concerns you so much, and how by whom you achieve victory by faith in.

And who can win this battle against the world? Only those who believe that Jesus is the Son of God. 1 John 5:5

Corn said:
The essence of God is Love. I follow Love without judging. It's the only way I find that prevents fear.
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"For God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. 17 God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him. 18 "There is no judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone who does not believe in him has already been judged for not believing in God's one and only Son. 19 And the judgment is based on this fact: God's light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil. 20 All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed. 21 But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants." John 3:16-21

I can see that you have a heart that desires to do right. Then do it rightly brother, in and through Christ Jesus.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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Brother, neither am I the Judge, but as per The Sermon On The Mount, chapter 7:1-6, I am to reckon truth from false, and because Ruah, the Holy Spirit, has indwelt my physical being, and during the past 36 years of Biblical Instruction at His hand, I know the Holy Scriptures are truth, and if folks believe a teaching that disagrees with the clear teaching of Ruah. Yehovah God, and Yeshua, it is my duty to God and man to point out the truth. If you choose to ignore the Truth, I am helpless; I can´t even pray for you. That is sad.
 
Never believe in corruption.
Those Violating an innocent child is not one I will follow.
 
th1bill said:
Brother, neither am I the Judge, but as per The Sermon On The Mount, chapter 7:1-6, I am to reckon truth from false, and because Ruah, the Holy Spirit, has indwelt my physical being, and during the past 36 years of Biblical Instruction at His hand, I know the Holy Scriptures are truth, and if folks believe a teaching that disagrees with the clear teaching of Ruah. Yehovah God, and Yeshua, it is my duty to God and man to point out the truth. If you choose to ignore the Truth, I am helpless; I can´t even pray for you. That is sad.
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Ditto. My experiences in Catholicism, like yours in Protestantism, have revealed certain truths to each of us. I can’t speak for your journey, and you can’t speak for mine. Which should speak to why it should come to no one's surprise that there’s a division between all of them. :( Still there is no denying that there are denominations a plenty, which includes Catholicism, whether, in Rome, East, or wherever, and the same includes Protestants, with other non-denominational ones which just reaffirms to me yet again that none are that perfect church in Christ Jesus. For in Christ Jesus there can be none other but a perfect church.

You hang your hat, in one of them as I do, and most everyone else does as well. It doesn't mean that is the perfect church being attended but only one that consists of/or has individual parts of the Body of Christ that is the one Church with Christ Jesus at the Head. Whether you understand this or not, or agree with it or not, in truth is not something that is concerning to me. It still doesn't change for me that when I talk to others, in fellowship, even you, I don't see them as a religion, but as Brothers or Sisters only. To do otherwise, to me, is to diminish not only the fellowship, but Christ Jesus Himself. If that were even possible.

In truth I see only one perfect church, and it is neither Catholic, or Protestant. I'm sure to the Catholic that would be heresy, as it very well might be to other Protestant denominations as well. Again, to me that is not disconcerting, because our salvation is not based on our attending this church or that one. For again, anything less than perfect in Christ Jesus...

Don't be sad for me brother, because I have the joy of the Lord! I'm not sad for you. :) How can I be when your salvation is assured in Christ Jesus, and not because of the church you attend? Wherever there are two or more...rejoice!!! For was this not before all would consider the establishment/beginning of the Church in Acts?

"For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them." Matthew 18:20 NKJV

So, if the Head of the Church, Jesus Christ is in the midst of them, how is another temporal entity to be greater still, if they are from different denominations? We want unity, which Scripture calls us to, but for some odd reason, everyone thinks that means uniformity! It does not. Look to each and you will see, what all too many do not. We can have a shared purpose, that allows us to be in unity, all while performing different tasks in Christ Jesus. Too often we forget we are the Temple and that we are not greater than the occupant. :)

I feel like I'm starting to ramble on. lol So, I'll call it an end to this post and reply to these comments either on another thread or through a PM if that is your desire. Otherwise, God bless you and yours brother.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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Corn said:
Yes we all do work out our own beliefs to our own understanding .
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There is a Scripture Quote in there, but you are misappropriating it for self-atonement and it is in no fashion supported by the whole of God's Word. You might not own a copy, and if not, please purchase one, pray for God to fill you with the understanding only Ruah can provide, and study with Him, right where you are, for now.
 
I almost mentioned you, Nick, but thought better of it. My being loud and proud Cavalry and typing C4E might sound like updated C4 and run all the nervous wrecks from the site. :)
 
th1bill said:
There is a Scripture Quote in there, but you are misappropriating it for self-atonement and it is in no fashion supported by the whole of God's Word. You might not own a copy, and if not, please purchase one, pray for God to fill you with the understanding only Ruah can provide, and study with Him, right where you are, for now.
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I apologize. I do not fit a mold.
I am I dividual. My brain is not the same as yours. How would you expect all to understand all of the same thing? Maybe something has ntbeen revealed to me?
I am not perfect. I am a human like you.
I go by my own understanding as you do. How could I have to go by YOUR understanding?
 
Corn said:
I apologize. I do not fit a mold.
I am I dividual. My brain is not the same as yours. How would you expect all to understand all of the same thing? Maybe something has ntbeen revealed to me?
I am not perfect. I am a human like you.
I go by my own understanding as you do. How could I have to go by YOUR understanding?
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But this is not true. If it is, you have made yourself to be your own god and the God of Creation will not save you to Eternal Life in this condition. The only reason the truth is not revealed to any person is because they are not seeking after Yehovah God.

The Holy Scriptures teach us the proper methods to seek after Him. I have the Indwelling of Ruah and taught the Bible through His guidence for over thirty years. If you will read the Letter, popularly known as the Book of John and ignore the cursed chapter and verse division, imposed by men and, do so prayerfully seeking what has not been revealed, Yehovah will send Ruah, the Holy Spirit, and yo can begin to make sense of the scriptures.
 
Key Verses from 1 Corinthians 13:1-3 (ESV):
    • "If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal".
    • "And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing".
    • "If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing". Google
    I BELIEVE IN LOVING ALL THE SAME.
 
Corn said:
Key Verses from 1 Corinthians 13:1-3 (ESV):
    • "If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal".
    • "And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing".
    • "If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing". Google
    I BELIEVE IN LOVING ALL THE SAME.
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If you are not indwelt with Ruah, you do not have the brotherly relationship with Yashua, and on that day of reckoning, He will say to you, 'Depart from me, for I never knew you.' I will never wish this on any, and because it aches in my heart to see so many go this way, I know the Love of Yeshuah. It is my prayer that He move upon your heart that I might greet you in His House in eternity.
 
th1bill said:
If you are not indwelt with Ruah, you do not have the brotherly relationship with Yashua, and on that day of reckoning, He will say to you, 'Depart from me, for I never knew you.' I will never wish this on any, and because it aches in my heart to see so many go this way, I know the Love of Yeshuah. It is my prayer that He move upon your heart that I might greet you in His House in eternity.
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Thank you for your concern.
I just passed though death without dying. Government said I had a 2 year life expectancy in 2021 from 24 cancers. I am very alive. I walked through the valley of Death in Arizona, and I have no fear.
I did it My Way.
Elvis was my cousin.
He told me, he did it His way...
Listen to his song...In the Garden
 
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