A Good Man is Hard to Find

[Jesus_is_LORD]

 

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Hello there, @Jesus_is_LORD,

This speaker is not correct in regard to Joseph, the husband of Mary. When I heard that I stopped listening, so I cannot say anything further, but he had not thoroughly investigated the role of Joseph in the purpose of God.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Which part? Are you speaking of Joseph not being told of the birth? If so, I thought the same thing you were thinking at first, but the speaker continues to share
that it was after Joseph wanted to put her away that the angel tells him. The speaker is correct. Joseph was not told
initially, he was only told after. Read the scripture below. The Pastor explains this in the sermon, but I think you cut off too early.

"This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit.
Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly. [Notice Joseph has not yet been told]
But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream [Notice Joseph is told now, after] and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. '
-Matthew 1:20

The Pastor explains this in the sermon, but I think you cut off too early.

 

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Which part? Are you speaking of Joseph not being told of the birth? If so, I thought the same thing you were thinking at first, but the speaker continues to share
that it was after Joseph wanted to put her away that the angel tells him. The speaker is correct. Joseph was not told
initially, he was only told after. Read the scripture below. The Pastor explains this in the sermon, but I think you cut off too early.

"This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit.
Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly. [Notice Joseph has not yet been told]
But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream [Notice Joseph is told now, after] and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. '
-Matthew 1:20

The Pastor explains this in the sermon, but I think you cut off too early.

Hello @Jesus_is_LORD

No, it was the implication that Joseph was not important in regard to the purpose of God in relation to the birth of the Lord Jesus Christ. For the genealogies of Matthew 1 and Luke 3, show the necessity of both Mary and Joseph (Jesus father by law), in making the line of entitlement to the throne end with the Lord Jesus Christ, for both through Solomon and Nathan (sons of David) the line ends through Mary and Joseph with the Lord Jesus.

So, Joseph played no unimportant part in the plan and purpose of God, but was a vital component, along with Mary in securing the right to rule on the throne of David for their son under law, and God's only begotten son by consummation.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Hello @Jesus_is_LORD

No, it was the implication that Joseph was not important in regard to the purpose of God in relation to the birth of the Lord Jesus Christ. For the genealogies of Matthew 1 and Luke 3, show the necessity of both Mary and Joseph (Jesus father by law), in making the line of entitlement to the throne end with the Lord Jesus Christ, for both through Solomon and Nathan (sons of David) the line ends through Mary and Joseph with the Lord Jesus.

So, Joseph played no unimportant part in the plan and purpose of God, but was a vital component, along with Mary in securing the right to rule on the throne of David for their son under law, and God's only begotten son by consummation.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

I'm confused, because that is part of the problem when one only hears one part of something and does
not wait to have it developed fully.

I heard the full sermon and I don't see where you got the idea that the pastor was saying "Joseph played no unimportant part in the plan and purpose of God".
I received the opposite. I received that Joseph played a very important role modeled through his behaviors as a father.

What I did hear him say was that the seed of Joseph was not needed. Because Jesus was born of the Holy Spirit it was not Joseph's
seed which was used because if it was, Jesus would have been born into sin. So what you might be picking up on is that the Pastor is
speaking on the fact the Joseph's DNA was not used, therefore not needed, but I think you are desiring not to emphasize the DNA since
it obviously was not the ***** of Joseph used, but you desire that the genealogical lineage be pointed out, I can see your point on that issue.
Overall great sermon if you listen to the whole thing. Sometimes were can pre-judge a book by it's cover or a Pastor and miss out, but I do understand,
if you hear something that hits you wrong from the beginning, it is hard to continue.

So comes the balance between not sitting under error and not too quickly dismissing a message when we have not hear the full point.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Love and God Bless.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Hello @Jesus_is_LORD

No, it was the implication that Joseph was not important in regard to the purpose of God in relation to the birth of the Lord Jesus Christ. For the genealogies of Matthew 1 and Luke 3, show the necessity of both Mary and Joseph (Jesus father by law), in making the line of entitlement to the throne end with the Lord Jesus Christ, for both through Solomon and Nathan (sons of David) the line ends through Mary and Joseph with the Lord Jesus.

So, Joseph played no unimportant part in the plan and purpose of God, but was a vital component, along with Mary in securing the right to rule on the throne of David for their son under law, and God's only begotten son by consummation.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Thanks for clarifying.

 

[HonorVids]

Joseph is still very important but not to be worshipped.