Hello all.
I would like to present this in true love to all of you as I truly care deeply for the Church and the importance to not be deceived.
A few Scriptures to get us started.
What began this studying is the following prophecy.
The reason this prompted my interest is because my hometown is mentioned as a location for this "move. " Several weeks back, this prophecy was shared with the church I was a part of. So you know I have not cut ties with the people at the church, I just no longer attend services regularly. But I digress. The pastor shared this to the congregation as truth and because he is the pastor and truly a man after God's own heart, they believed it without question and are looking forward to embracing this "move of God."
I, on the other hand, immediately discerned impending danger when this was presented and did a little research of my own along with other close brethren.
I will not go too much into detail right now, but perhaps as the thread progresses, more will come out. But to briefly understand what I am talking about, do a youtube search of Todd Bentley's videos with a discerning eye and ear.
What goes on in these meetings hosted by Mr. Bentley are a far cry from anything found in Scripture, unless Scripture specifically warns about such things. For instance, gold dust appearing, diamonds falling, angel feathers, female angels, appearance of drunkenness, uncontrollable spasms, etc. etc.
Todd also claims that his healing anointing comes from an angel (albeit a female one at that), but there is no record in all of Scripture of an angel giving somebody an anointing. This is very popular in New Age beliefs and experiences, and also is reminiscent of the "apparitions of the Virgin Mary" highly esteemed in Catholic circles. There is really nothing new, just basically repackaged. He claims to receive revelations directly from these angels yet in all of these supposed revelations, him who receives these revelations NEVER explains the process of properly testing the spirits. Rather, they blindly accept whatever the spirit brings as truth.
Before I post any more, I would like to see some initial responses and end with a prophecy from Scripture.
Grace and peace
Hisalone
I would like to present this in true love to all of you as I truly care deeply for the Church and the importance to not be deceived.
A few Scriptures to get us started.
2Th 2:9-12 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
1Jo 4:1-3 ¶ Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world
What began this studying is the following prophecy.
"TODD BENTLEY and BOB JONES: 'The Third Wave is Here!' 12 Places for Healing and Revival to Start are Mentioned--but THIS TIME IT'S GLOBAL"
Ministry Report from Lakeland, Florida:
Below is a ministry report written by Linda Dodson, a church member of Albany Vineyard Christian Fellowship in Albany, Oregon. Linda is attending the revival meetings in Lakeland, Florida and sent us the following report of what happened on Monday, April 21, 2008:
Greetings from sunny Florida! The glory of God is growing. There is a tangible presence all over town. Are you feeling "the wind" of the Spirit blowing where you are? The "winds of change" angel appeared to Todd Bentley in Florida, and simultaneously to Bob Jones. I have some encouraging news for all of you, which come from the prophets who released it on Monday night at Ignited Church in Lakeland, Florida. Bob Jones gave Todd Bentley the "green light" to release every bit of this prophetic word. I took notes quickly, so I may have missed a few details, but in general, you are surely to be blessed by this word.
Todd Bentley called Bob Jones an elder prophet and talked with him for about an hour about the "Florida outpouring" here in Lakeland. Here are notes about their phone conversation:
On New Year's Eve, for 2008, God told Bob Jones that "the third wave was coming." Todd asked Bob what the third wave was. He said that Toronto was wave #1, Pensacola was wave #2, and the third wave is the "Winds of Change"--this move of God. This move will be a global move, traveling with signs and wonders all over the world! The third wave is here!
As a sign that this wave would be released from the Northwest, Bob shared that God said in the natural world, there would be extreme "winds and storms" out of Canada and the Northwest this year. (We had these storms in the Northwest this past winter and winds even now!) These natural winds would be followed by the winds of change. There would then be a move of the Holy Ghost, where entire towns would be shut down by the power of the Spirit. Revival will come as a Northwest wind.
It was also mentioned to "set up your sail"--the "Winds of Change" are blowing! There are 12 places specifically mentioned where revival will hit first (listed in the order mentioned):
Des Moines, Iowa; Omaha and Lincoln, Nebraska; Kansas City, Missouri; Denver, Colorado; Nashville, Tennessee; Lakeland, Florida; Ohio; Charlotte, North Carolina; Albany, Oregon; Washington; and Redding, California. Of course, I did quite a bit of shouting when Todd named "Albany, Oregon." We have known for some time that Revival was on the way to Albany, and yet when I heard it declared by the prophets, it was a glorious moment. So for Albany and Oregonians, rejoice and get your hearts ready! Also mentioned were countries where it is moving first--England, Australia and New Zealand.
June 22 to July 22 will be a significant time in the spirit. (Todd didn't elaborate on this period.) This Revival will NOT be stopped.
There are several "clarion trumpets" (people God uses to deliver His word) and John Kilpatrick, former pastor of the Brownsville Assembly of God Church, where the Pensacola Revival took place, "probably has one of the clearest trumpets." Todd wanted to honor John Kilpatrick by naming him as Bob had spoken.
The third wave has begun! This wave promotes, prepares, purifies, pierces and inspires. We can expect to be changed by this move of God. The year 2008 will be the best of years for Christians and the worst of years for unbelievers, mainly due to their fear about the economy. There are doors now open in the spirit that will not shut!
The "Voice of Healing" move of the Spirit of years ago is here for a second time and it won't be stopped. This was a major healing move. This current move can be carried to other cities and countries. Wherever people move and who are carriers of this glory, it will move, like the ark was moved from place to place.
There will be one main thing required to see this outpouring continue: COMMITMENT--it will cost a lot to see it happen. (Todd has said twice now, that if this move requires him to lay down his own ministry, he will do it!) An invasion of glory for the hungry is on the way for you and your whole family!
I felt happy to be able to respond to the altar call as someone from Oregon to come and receive the "anointing and impartation" from Todd Bentley for Revival for Albany, Oregon. I was with others from the places mentioned above. I have been very hungry and contending for many years for Revival. I have gone wherever God has called me to experience His glory and to grow deeper in Him. So I am very encouraged by Monday night's word! The glory of God is coming to your town, too!
Blessings,
Reported by Linda Dodson
(attending from Albany Vineyard Christian Fellowship Church)
The reason this prompted my interest is because my hometown is mentioned as a location for this "move. " Several weeks back, this prophecy was shared with the church I was a part of. So you know I have not cut ties with the people at the church, I just no longer attend services regularly. But I digress. The pastor shared this to the congregation as truth and because he is the pastor and truly a man after God's own heart, they believed it without question and are looking forward to embracing this "move of God."
I, on the other hand, immediately discerned impending danger when this was presented and did a little research of my own along with other close brethren.
I will not go too much into detail right now, but perhaps as the thread progresses, more will come out. But to briefly understand what I am talking about, do a youtube search of Todd Bentley's videos with a discerning eye and ear.
What goes on in these meetings hosted by Mr. Bentley are a far cry from anything found in Scripture, unless Scripture specifically warns about such things. For instance, gold dust appearing, diamonds falling, angel feathers, female angels, appearance of drunkenness, uncontrollable spasms, etc. etc.
Todd also claims that his healing anointing comes from an angel (albeit a female one at that), but there is no record in all of Scripture of an angel giving somebody an anointing. This is very popular in New Age beliefs and experiences, and also is reminiscent of the "apparitions of the Virgin Mary" highly esteemed in Catholic circles. There is really nothing new, just basically repackaged. He claims to receive revelations directly from these angels yet in all of these supposed revelations, him who receives these revelations NEVER explains the process of properly testing the spirits. Rather, they blindly accept whatever the spirit brings as truth.
Before I post any more, I would like to see some initial responses and end with a prophecy from Scripture.
Isaiah 29:9-14 Stay yourselves, and wonder; cry ye out, and cry: they are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink. For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.
Grace and peace
Hisalone