Adam's lineage???

[mat]

well i traced the lineage from adam all the way to abraham
i noted all the ages of the people within the "tree"

and it has to be way longer than 5000 years... does anybody know whe adam and eve were really created?

like how many years ago it was??
cuz science teaches us that man has been walking this planet now for some time something like 30 000 years i think

what do you guys think
just something i was thinking about?

 

[jiggyfly]

well i traced the lineage from adam all the way to abraham
i noted all the ages of the people within the "tree"
and it has to be way longer than 5000 years... does anybody know whe adam and eve were really created?
like how many years ago it was??
cuz science teaches us that man has been walking this planet now for some time something like 30 000 years i think
what do you guys think
just something i was thinking about?

I would be interested to see how you came up with your conclusion Mat. Is there anyway you can post it?

 

[Hoss]

yes mat would you please post how you have calculated thanks

 

[mat]

um yea i can post it
but its drawn out one liek 3 different pieces of paper

bt i will try my best

just gimmy a lil bit to do this

 

[mat]

OK SO OBVIOUSLY ADAM N EVE R 1ST
oh and the number beside the names is how long they lived till
~ = sisters/female
+ = brothers/male
> = next generation
- = married
! + brother or sister ???
| + alo next generation
adam930-eve
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CAIN > enoch >Irad>mehyael>methusael> Lamech-(zillah & adah)
/ \
Tubal~Chain~Naamah Jabal+Jubal
from what i collected, Cains lineage stops here
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Abel was killed as we all know so i dont think he had any children.
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Adam930-Eve
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Seth -????
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Enos 905> cainan 910> Mahalaeel 890> Jared 962> Enoch 365 (walked with god and went somewhere with)> Methuselah969> Lamech(age?)> NOAH
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OK, so that is what collected all the wya to Noah, now i know they all lived for rougly 1000 yrs each but i was wondering if ther is anway of finding out at what point in their life they had children... beacuse that right there is roughly 6000 years of history ....
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NOAH 950
|
hAM+Japheth+Shem
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HAM
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Canaan+Cush+Mizrahim+Phut(no kids)
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sidon+heth (becomes the familes of Canaanites, jebusite+Armrite+girasite+hiuite+arkite+sinite+aruadite+zemarite+hamathite)
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HAM
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Canaan+Cush+Mizrahim+Phut(no kids)
|
Ludim!Asamim!Lehabim!naphtuhim!phatrusim!casluhim
from what i gathered Mizrahim lineage stops here
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HAM
/ | \
Canaan+Cush+Mizrahim+Phut(no kids)
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(! for all) sebah, havilah,sabtah,RAAMAH,sabtache,NIMROD
| |
Sehba!Dedan |
/
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Made ! Babel ! Erech! Accad! Calneh! (land of Shinar)
out of this land comes asshur (assyria), nineveh, kehoboth,calah,resen
I believe Ham's Lineage stops here.. well obviously it goes on but i didint see any more mention of it. & 4 some starge reason i have no notes on Phut, maybe this is an error on my behalf or maybe it just says nothing of his offspring.... you will have 2 look in2 that...
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NOAH 950
|
hAM+Japheth+Shem
JAPHETH
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GOMER, magog, Mada, JAVAN, Tubal, Mesheca, Tireas
| |
| |
| eLISHAH! Tarshih! Kittim! Dodanim
| \
| eventualy thier land becomes isle of gentiles
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Ashkenaz! Raphath! Togarmah
!from what i gather the records stop here...
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now Shem noahs other son was not as detailed on his lineage but i will give you what i have.. THESE PEOPLE PROBABLY HAD Brothers and sisters but it just did not say.
NOAH 950
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hAM+Japheth+Shem
SHEM>Arphaxed>Salah>Eber>Peleg>Reu>Serug>Nahor>TERAH
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TERAH / - (Marries haraans daughter Milcah)
/ | \ /
Abra(ha)m+Nahor+Haraan-(Haraan dies in land of Ur)
\
+Lot, ~Milcah, !iscah
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ABRAHAM-sarai (didnt write down abrahams age when he dies 4 some reason)
and as you all know abraham then has a child with sarai and hagar
isach and ishmeal
and is topped here for some reason
but i know it goeas as follows
ishmeal>way 2 many 2 mention (LOL)
ishmeal>way 2 many 2 mention (LOL), issach-rebekka
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Esau+Jacob-rachel
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12 sons/tribes
then there is a 430 year gap and then moses comes along
TADAH!!!!
well tahts what i gatherd anyway
i got it all form the and it took me a very long time to do
and yes there coudl be mistakes but um yea look it up enjoy whatever you want
i just love looking that kind of stuff up
i am going 2 eventually trace it to joseph (jesus adopted dad)

 

[mat]

the way it ooks now is not the way it look when i was trypin it
i just want to clear something incase it starts lil fuss


Terah, abrahams dad, does not marry milcah LOL

Nahor who is abrahams brother, does
Milcah is is Haraams daughter and Lot's sister

so basicly nahor marries his neise
and haraam is the one who dies in the land of ur

if thereare any other questions on the formating of this or whatever just give a hsout

see ya

 

[pamy]

The following condensed statement of chronological periods may properly be termed Bible chronology, because the Bible record alone is followed down to the first year of Cyrus, B.C. 536, a date well authenticated and generally accepted by scholars. Here the thread of Bible chronology ends—a little beyond the period where secular history begins to be reliable. This, in itself, is a marked evidence of divine direction and oversight, in helping us only where we are unable to help ourselves.
From the Creation of Adam
To the end of the flood..............................................1656 years
Thence to the covenant with Abraham........................427 "
Thence to the Exodus and the giving of the Law........430 "
Thence to the division of Canaan..................................46 "
The period of the Judges.............................................450 "
The period of the Kings...............................................513 "
The period of the desolation..........................................70 "
Thence to A.D. 1.........................................................536 "
Thence to A.D. 1873.................................................1872 "
_____
Total..........................................................................6000 years
As we consider particularly each of these periods, let us figure it out for our self, and see how firm a foundation for our faith is laid in God's Word. Two breaks in the historic account of the Old Testament we shall find, yet when we discover that in the New Testament God has provided bridges to cover these two gaps, it should increase our confidence that God so arranged the record as to hide his times and seasons, until his due time for revealing them.
Chronology of the Period from the Creation
of Adam to the Day the Flood was Dried Up
"Adam lived 130 years and begat a son and
called his name Seth." Gen. 5:3.......……………....... 130 years
"Seth lived 105 years and begat Enos."
Gen. 5:6..........................………………………......... 105 "
"Enos lived 90 years and begat Cainan."
Gen. 5:9......................……………………….............. 90 "
"Cainan lived 70 years and begat Mahalaleel."
Gen. 5:12.......................………………………........... 70 "
"Mahalaleel lived 65 years and begat Jared."
Gen. 5:15.........................………………………......... 65 "
"Jared lived 162 years and begat Enoch."
Gen. 5:18...........................………………………....... 162 "
"Enoch lived 65 years and begat Methuselah."
Gen. 5:21..................………………………................. 65 "
"Methuselah lived 187 years and begat
Lamech." Gen. 5:25....................…………………...... 187 "
"Lamech lived 182 years and begat a son and
called his name Noah." Gen. 5:28.....……………....... 182 "
"Noah was 600 years old when the flood of
waters was upon the earth." Gen. 7:6...…………….... 600 "
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Total from the creation of Adam to the day
the flood was dried up. Gen. 8:13..........……………1656 years

Blessings,

pamy

 

[mat]

woah!! tahts crazy

imagin living to be almost a thousand years old???

anyway.. so this means the the human race is only some odd thousand years old

but isnt there all this crazy scientififc evidence that says other wise???
or is science wrong? and has man only been walking on this earth for under 10 thousand years???

wow this is cool stuff
thanx

 

[SpiritLedEd]

well i traced the lineage from adam all the way to abraham
i noted all the ages of the people within the "tree"

and it has to be way longer than 5000 years... does anybody know whe adam and eve were really created?

like how many years ago it was??
cuz science teaches us that man has been walking this planet now for some time something like 30 000 years i think

what do you guys think
just something i was thinking about?

Don't get too wrapped up in such things. Remember Paul's admonition to Timothy (1Tim 1:4) to teach people to avoid getting caught up in endless genealogies. A.W. Tozer wrote (in "The Pursuit of God) that getting entangled in such things might make you a theologian, but it won't make you a saint.

SLE

 

[mat]

good point SpiritLedEd

i am not as concerned as u think a m but still great point..

thnx

 

[Nigh]

but isnt there all this crazy scientififc evidence that says other wise???

Crazy is a colorful way to describe it. lol

Fossils are one of "sciences" main evidences of an old earth. But guess what? There is something you won't learn in science class...rapid fossilization, or polystrate Fossils.

Rapid Fossilization: Fossils have been shown in the laboratory to form rapidly. It simply takes rapid burial, ground water, and minerals. All of these would have been present in a global flood. Get Creation magazine from AiG for a steady flow of examples of such fossilization occurring rapidly. There is a fossilized finger from the Glen Rose Creation Evidences Museum. 20 different medical scholars analyzed the finger and attribute to the fact that it is an actual human finger. You can see the fossilized cartilage and blood vessels from the cross sections. It is not millions of years old, for it is a human being's finger, not some ape, or ancient or extinct predicessor of man. Another is a fossilized foot and ankle found in a boot. The boot was manufacured in 1950. It was found in 1980. So it is at most 30 years old. Also...

Polystrate Fossil – Fossils that cross two or more sedimentary layers (strata). How could these trees have been fossilized if it took millions of years for each strata to form as evolutionary timeframes dictate? Yet, these are found on every continent all over the world. Some eroding mountainsides have exposed thousands of these together covering large numbers of strata which clearly had to be buried at one time. Many of these trees also exhibit the abrupt breaking of their root systems. They were buried in the flood.

There are many many holes in the theories of man. Yet nothing of Gods word has ever been disproven. Mostly sciences continues to make "discoveries" that the Bible revieled thousands of years ago, or to simply validate what the Bible already told us.

God bless,
Nigh

PS: If you would like to see pictures of Rapid fossilization, or Polystrate Fossils, let me know. I can email them to you.

 

[fbipeeper]

You can send those to me Nigh, fbipeeperjr@aol.com

Not only what he was talking about, but like he said, there are trees that have grown through many layers of "strata" upside down in the fossil record, meaning at one point, trees took 200 million years to grown, and did so in reverse, according to the bangers. (big bangers)

Ask a banger... what banged?

The layers of strata where caused by hydro sifting. Take a bunch of different dirt... rocks of different size, some small animals, a couple big ones... then put them all in a fish tank, and stir the heck out of it. Keep stiring until all the water is gone. You'll find the heaviest rocks at the bottom, the lightest dirt on top. You'll find the smallest animals on the bottom, and the biggest on top. This is hydro sifting, as when the entire world was flooded, it's what happened, that's why you find the microbs down farther then the big dinos

You'll also find that evelutionists use circular reasoning to age things. How do they know how old the rock is? by the fossels in it. How do they know the age of the fossils? By what rock it's in. Take a look it's funny

Carbon dating disagrees with itself, and when the carbon dating doesn't work with what they beleave, they throw it out. Also, because of carbon dating, the earth has been getting older by billions of years, each year. in the 50s, we where 3 billion years old, now we're like, 70 billion or something like that. I saw a formula done on this one, and it showed that by how fast we are "aging" by carbon dating, if you reversed it and calculated an exponential deteriation instead of constant, the moon rock is about 6000 years old.

Many places in the world have the strata upside down to what it is in other places. Bangers say it was massive earth quakes that flipped huge pieces of land upside down somehow. Flooders explain it as the different sifting that twirling, moving, and still water do. Which sounds more plausable?