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Am I being dramatic?

PresleyPres

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New Christian here, Currently under a bit of stress at the time of writing this, Ive noticed as of recently ive been insanely empathetic and apologetic, like feeling bad and instantly apologizing to god over ordering a pizza with pepperoni, The pizza did not normally have pepperoni, so I thought I was being selfish.
 
Greetings,

Can you give other examples please.
I overly apologize in my head for a lot of things like that, almost anything, like not giving a homeless man money, denying things im offered if I don’t technically need them, like if someone offered me 20 bucks, I’d decline, and so on. Its been effecting my life recently as Im too serious about things that don’t matter that much.
 
I overly apologize in my head for a lot of things like that, almost anything, like not giving a homeless man money, denying things im offered if I don’t technically need them, like if someone offered me 20 bucks, I’d decline, and so on. Its been effecting my life recently as Im too serious about things that don’t matter that much.

Excellent,

I think I may be able to help. Well God may be able to help through me.

So either two things are happening.

Either

(1) The Holy Spirit is convicting you of sin or times when you have been wrong or missing the mark

or

(2) Your flesh of the Devil could be falsely trying to condemn you.



It will be important as you grow in faith to learn to distinguish between the two voices.
The voice of the Holy Spirit is conviction. It will convict you of sin but it will also show
you the right path to take. The purpose is to turn you away from the wrong path unto the right
path so that you can be drawn closer to God.

The voice of the devil or the flesh as it relates to condemnation, seeks to make you feel hopeless.
It seeks to may you feel like a failure and feel like nothing you do is right. If it ever gives you options,
it will often be confusing and leave you more confused (Whereas the Holy Spirit will speak with clarity).

So ask yourself when you have these feelings, who is speaking to me?
Is this a voice that is leading me closer to God but telling me to turn to the right path,
or is this a voice that is just seeking to make me feel like a loser without an hope of how to do better?
 
For example, in the Bible we see

Zacchaeus the Tax collector in Luke 19_5-9

5 When Jesus reached the spot, he looked up and said to him, “Zacchaeus, come down immediately. I must stay at your house today.” 6 So he came down at once and welcomed him gladly.

7 All the people saw this and began to mutter, “He has gone to be the guest of a sinner.”

8 But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount.”



He had a bad feeling about what he did, but it was conviction not condemnation.
This conviction led him specifically to what he could do to fix the problem. He paid
back those he had hurt.


Now we see another example of feeling bad for what one has done in Matthew 27:3-5 with Judas.


3 When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and the elders. 4 “I have sinned,” he said, “for I have betrayed innocent blood.”

“What is that to us?” they replied. “That’s your responsibility.”

5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.


Judas also returned the money he was given to betray Jesus, but he was motivated by condemnation not conviction.
The condemning voice of the devil told him that he was a failure, he was a loser, all hope was lost. And he hung himself.

Can you spot the difference in the two stories?
Which one more represents what you are experiencing @PresleyPres ?

Are you aware of specifically what you need to do to make things right and does doing it make you feel closer to God.
or are you feeling loss and hopeless by these thoughts without a specific path to take that remedies these feelings?
 
For example, in the Bible we see

Zacchaeus the Tax collector in Luke 19_5-9

5 When Jesus reached the spot, he looked up and said to him, “Zacchaeus, come down immediately. I must stay at your house today.” 6 So he came down at once and welcomed him gladly.

7 All the people saw this and began to mutter, “He has gone to be the guest of a sinner.”

8 But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount.”



He had a bad feeling about what he did, but it was conviction not condemnation.
This conviction led him specifically to what he could do to fix the problem. He paid
back those he had hurt.


Now we see another example of feeling bad for what one has done in Matthew 27:3-5 with Judas.


3 When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and the elders. 4 “I have sinned,” he said, “for I have betrayed innocent blood.”

“What is that to us?” they replied. “That’s your responsibility.”

5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.


Judas also returned the money he was given to betray Jesus, but he was motivated by condemnation not conviction.
The condemning voice of the devil told him that he was a failure, he was a loser, all hope was lost. And he hung himself.

Can you spot the difference in the two stories?
Which one more represents what you are experiencing @PresleyPres ?

Are you aware of specifically what you need to do to make things right and does doing it make you feel closer to God.
or are you feeling loss and hopeless by these thoughts without a specific path to take that remedies these feelings?
Yeah, actually that helps a lot! i wish I had known this all sooner, My voice almost never condemns me, rather its my own conscious that makes me feel guilty over things, this voice gives me off vibes, but after I do the actions, I feel great, and its always centered around goodness, like growing towards god, or complimenting someone, and I always get told that the voice is proud of me, whenever I do something it asks.
 
I overly apologize in my head for a lot of things like that, almost anything, like not giving a homeless man money, denying things im offered if I don’t technically need them, like if someone offered me 20 bucks, I’d decline, and so on. Its been effecting my life recently as Im too serious about things that don’t matter that much.
Maybe you are thinking too much. When I was a baby Christian I thought of the scripture that says be still, so I obeyed that and it helped.

Psalm 4610 He says, “Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth.”
 
Yeah, actually that helps a lot! i wish I had known this all sooner, My voice almost never condemns me, rather its my own conscious that makes me feel guilty over things, this voice gives me off vibes, but after I do the actions, I feel great, and its always centered around goodness, like growing towards god, or complimenting someone, and I always get told that the voice is proud of me, whenever I do something it asks.

Glad that it helped.

Are you in a local congregation of believers that you worship with regularly.
Do you regularly meet with the body of Christ for the purpose of
(1) learning the word
(2) using your gifts to serve others
(3) allow others to hold you accountable

Although you will find a few people on Christian platforms who are lone sheep Christians
and prime target for the wolf, I find personally that being with other sheep, especially
in person, regularly, helps to have us live out our calling to be the body of Christ.

Strongly consider joining a local congregation.
 
Glad that it helped.

Are you in a local congregation of believers that you worship with regularly.
Do you regularly meet with the body of Christ for the purpose of
(1) learning the word
(2) using your gifts to serve others
(3) allow others to hold you accountable

Although you will find a few people on Christian platforms who are lone sheep Christians
and prime target for the wolf, I find personally that being with other sheep, especially
in person, regularly, helps to have us live out our calling to be the body of Christ.

Strongly consider joining a local congregation.
Im in a church group yeah, but am Quite the loner there. No real social bonds or anything formed there yet
 
Im in a church group yeah, but am Quite the loner there. No real social bonds or anything formed there yet

I'm glad with it makes me smile to know that you are in a group. Excellent.

More words of counsel. I'm glad to see that you are humble, and seem willing to learn. God will indeed

bless you greatly for this.

With that said, follow do this:

(1) Pray for God to assist you in building relationships in that group

(2) After praying for a week or so, put yourself out there.
However, don't approach it in the traditional way of trying to
beg people to be your friend. Approach it by just serving people
and loving them. Just serve them. Open the door for the ladies.
If someone is sharing a problem, share a resource, share information.
Just serve them.

(3) After a month of serving them, seek to build relationship.
Ask about their contact information, phone numbers, etc.
Ask to meet up to hangout, play sports, play board games, etc, etc, etc.


So that is the plan I recommend.
(1) Pray for a week
(2) Serve them for a month
(3) Boldly make friends.

I have no doubt that if you follow this plan as I have laid out, I have not doubt
that you will indeed reply and share of the benefits. But if you take shortcuts, don't
be surprised if the results you desire don't come.
 
I'm glad with it makes me smile to know that you are in a group. Excellent.

More words of counsel. I'm glad to see that you are humble, and seem willing to learn. God will indeed

bless you greatly for this.

With that said, follow do this:

(1) Pray for God to assist you in building relationships in that group

(2) After praying for a week or so, put yourself out there.
However, don't approach it in the traditional way of trying to
beg people to be your friend. Approach it by just serving people
and loving them. Just serve them. Open the door for the ladies.
If someone is sharing a problem, share a resource, share information.
Just serve them.

(3) After a month of serving them, seek to build relationship.
Ask about their contact information, phone numbers, etc.
Ask to meet up to hangout, play sports, play board games, etc, etc, etc.


So that is the plan I recommend.
(1) Pray for a week
(2) Serve them for a month
(3) Boldly make friends.

I have no doubt that if you follow this plan as I have laid out, I have not doubt
that you will indeed reply and share of the benefits. But if you take shortcuts, don't
be surprised if the results you desire don't come.
Will do. Thank you very much.
 
I overly apologize in my head for a lot of things like that, almost anything, like not giving a homeless man money, denying things im offered if I don’t technically need them, like if someone offered me 20 bucks, I’d decline, and so on. Its been effecting my life recently as Im too serious about things that don’t matter that much.

When one actually receives the real Spirit of Christ it is not about Shalom it is the beginning of a true Jihad within (the true Jihad) the Spirit through you newly born spiritual baby keeps pulling you up toward conformance with the image of His Son while the animal self of the flesh you have always had, with all its baggage keeps pulling you back down. So take Paul's advice. Sow to the Spirit as oft as you are able. And in time the change will come, IF you are truly sowing to the Spirit. So not be overconcerned about all your worldly preferences and opinions, learn and observe Jesus and emulate Him. You are no longer under the law so stop trying to NOT DO this and NOT DO THAT you are under grace because of His sacrifice. Now focus on these:

Love God with all your heart, mind, and strength
Love your neighbor as you yourself would want to be loved
Love your brothers and sisters in Christ as He loved us
and love your enemies and treat them good and pray for them

And you will be fine. Now here is one last hint I want to share! Fruit are not Gifts. Gifts will be administered according to God's need through you, but fruit MUST BE planted and cultivated and different fruits take different lengths of time to grow. That will become important in time. Until then sow to the Spirit as oft as possible. Be blessed....Amen
 
Yeah, actually that helps a lot! i wish I had known this all sooner, My voice almost never condemns me, rather its my own conscious that makes me feel guilty over things, this voice gives me off vibes, but after I do the actions, I feel great, and its always centered around goodness, like growing towards god, or complimenting someone, and I always get told that the voice is proud of me, whenever I do something it asks.
I'm glad that Jesus is helping me to be good and to do good in living that reconciled relationship with God through Jesus Christ.

I'm not looking for compliment nor thanks from the Lord, but reasons to give the Father thanks in Jesus's name..

Luke 17:5 And the apostles said unto the Lord, Increase our faith.
6 And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you.
7 But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle, will say unto him by and by, when he is come from the field, Go and sit down to meat?
8 And will not rather say unto him, Make ready wherewith I may sup, and gird thyself, and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken; and afterward thou shalt eat and drink?

9 Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not.
10 So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.

Colossians 3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.


 
New Christian here, Currently under a bit of stress at the time of writing this, Ive noticed as of recently ive been insanely empathetic and apologetic, like feeling bad and instantly apologizing to god over ordering a pizza with pepperoni, The pizza did not normally have pepperoni, so I thought I was being selfish.
Sounds like satan's folks are playing games with you. Time to tell 'em to take their filthy lies, and false pressures and stick 'em where the sun don't shine. Scream at 'em if necessary (but probably not in public). The bible says that if you RESIST the devil, He'll Flee. remind him of that promise.
 
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