Am I now seeking the approval of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men?

[PloughBoy]

New American Standard Bible
For am I now seeking the favor of people, or of God? Or am I striving to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a bond-servant of Christ.

Berean Study Bible Paul said:
Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm.

English Standard Version
For I would have you know, brothers, that the gospel that was preached by me is not man’s gospel.

We all must realize it is a known fact and determine by great "Theological Minded Servants of GOD" in this day and age, that many do not know or have lost The Identity of "The GOSPEL According to JESUS CHRIST" . And it is a know fact That Many "Religious Rulers, Leaders has confess they do not know what it really is. They have many definitions But when question of The "Authenticity" of what they believe it is. Came short and they admitted they had the wrong definition, and had been in error of what it is. And many said they have taught falsehood for many years, And many have said, they cannot tell their church the truth, because it would mean they have taught lies all of these years. And they cannot find it in themselves to tell them. It was in "The ELEPHANT ROOM" that closed down quickly. In the close session not the open one.

So is it "ACCORDING To JESUS CHRIST" or How I perceive it? Is it by preparation, and then what? and then what, and Then what? Does it travels off track, Are we to get off course and indoctrinate it with other entities or "Adulterated" it with The things and cares of This world to make it more acceptable and attractive to the masses of people? What is the Goal of "The GOSPEL of JESUS CHRIST" UnAdulterated? And The Message according to HIM?

And where did you get your definition and who taught you what it was? Did you teach your self or did a woman or man teach you? If so, then you may think it is impossible for you to be in error, What The True "Gospel According to Jesus Christ" is, unAdulterated.

This is only something to think about. That is all. "For every man will have to give account of his Stewardship" Everyman.

New American Standard Bible
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

 

[Hekuran]

Could you share your simplest description of the gospel.

 

[Rhema]

And it is a know fact That Many "Religious Rulers, Leaders has confess they do not know what it really is.

A known fact ?? Then where does this fact come from? "Many ... confess"? Who might they be? I keep well informed about the current state of affairs in Christendom, and I know of not ONE "Religious Rulers, leaders" who has ever said they don't know what the Gospel really is. (They might not know it, but they've never said that they don't.)

I ask with great respect, PloughBoy, who are these many? Billy Graham? His son Franklin? Rick Warren? Bishop Jakes? John MacArthur? Joel Osteen? Joyce Meyer? Pat Robertson? John Hagee? Charles Stanley? His son Andy (who pastors the largest church in America)? Daniel Wallace? Bill Mounce? Chuck Swindoll? (I'd list other names, but many have recently died, such as Kenneth Hagan, Lester Sumrall, Dr. Francis Schaeffer...)

I hear what you're saying, I just know whom you're talking about. It would be a great help if you could list but five of these many.

... they admitted they had the wrong definition ...

Again, I don't know of one prominent Christian leader who has ever said this.

What is the Goal of "The GOSPEL of JESUS CHRIST" UnAdulterated? And The Message according to HIM?

The Goal is to save souls, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever Jesus Himself has commanded.

Now "What is the GOSPEL of JESUS CHRIST?" That's a different question, and I'm rather sure that you have no interest in hearing what I have to say about it, though I've received my knowledge through direct Rhema.

But as @Hekuran has said, it would be very interesting to hear your views.

Rhema

 

[Garee]

New American Standard Bible
For am I now seeking the favor of people, or of God? Or am I striving to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a bond-servant of Christ.

Berean Study Bible Paul said:
Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm.

English Standard Version
For I would have you know, brothers, that the gospel that was preached by me is not man’s gospel.

We all must realize it is a known fact and determine by great "Theological Minded Servants of GOD" in this day and age, that many do not know or have lost The Identity of "The GOSPEL According to JESUS CHRIST" . And it is a know fact That Many "Religious Rulers, Leaders has confess they do not know what it really is. They have many definitions But when question of The "Authenticity" of what they believe it is. Came short and they admitted they had the wrong definition, and had been in error of what it is. And many said they have taught falsehood for many years, And many have said, they cannot tell their church the truth, because it would mean they have taught lies all of these years. And they cannot find it in themselves to tell them. It was in "The ELEPHANT ROOM" that closed down quickly. In the close session not the open one.

So is it "ACCORDING To JESUS CHRIST" or How I perceive it? Is it by preparation, and then what? and then what, and Then what? Does it travels off track, Are we to get off course and indoctrinate it with other entities or "Adulterated" it with The things and cares of This world to make it more acceptable and attractive to the masses of people? What is the Goal of "The GOSPEL of JESUS CHRIST" UnAdulterated? And The Message according to HIM?

And where did you get your definition and who taught you what it was? Did you teach your self or did a woman or man teach you? If so, then you may think it is impossible for you to be in error, What The True "Gospel According to Jesus Christ" is, unAdulterated.

This is only something to think about. That is all. "For every man will have to give account of his Stewardship" Everyman.

New American Standard Bible
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

I would say according to the faith produced by the loving commandment (2 Timothy 2:15) we can seek after eternal God not seen and not mankind seen .
He warns of of seeking after man as antichrists .We abide in him as he works in us to both will and perform his good pleasure .Without the Father as the unseen Lord we have zero power to please God ,. As Jesus replied his flesh profits for nothing . . . .learn from the father we then as brothers and sister mother can be part of the family with God .

In the same , no mention of the Spirit of the matter

Mark 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God,(father) "the same" is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

 

[Gregoryp]

And in all of that they mention the names of men, instead of reading the bible and asking the holy spirit for guidance. People sit there in the audience every sunday and listen to what man says, and take it home with them, without even checking to see if it is sound doctrine. And there is now enough information out there to suggest Billy Graham isnt all he seemed to be.

 

[Rhema]

And in all of that they mention the names of men, instead of reading the bible and asking the holy spirit for guidance. People sit there in the audience every sunday and listen to what man says, and take it home with them, without even checking to see if it is sound doctrine. And there is now enough information out there to suggest Billy Graham isnt all he seemed to be.

What else is new?

And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off. And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.​

(Exodus 20:18-19 KJV)​

Rhema

 

[Gregoryp]

"And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die." and thats a good thing???? and later they create a golden calf to worship!!

 

[Rhema]

and thats a good thing????

Whoever said it was a good thing???? All I pointed out was that this is nothing new.

Rhema

 

[Gregoryp]

and as I am going through social media I come across this! Not my words, but it is so profound and on the same topic I had to share;
John Tower

JOHN'S THOUGHTS !
LUKEWARMNESS !
REVELATIONS 3(15&16): I know your works , that you are neither cold or hot , I would you were cold or hot .
So then because you are lukewarm , and neither cold or hot , I WILL SPEW YOU OUT OF MY MOUTH !
Christ says here , that if you want to be a Christian , he wants you to be either sold out hot , or don't bother at all !
HE DOES NOT WANT HALF HEARTS !
If you think going to a church building one day a week and putting on little act and doing nothing else is enough : I've got bad news for you : CHRIST IS GOING TO Spew SUCH PEOPLE OUT OF HIS MOUTH !!
If you don't think enough of Christ to be all the way , Christ would prefer you don't bother at all !
Don't bother going to a building one day a week and mouthing his name and put your little act on because it is not going to fly !
Bible says all that live Godly shall be persecuted , 2 Timothy 3(12) , because speaking his real truth is going to upset a lot if people .
But , you will never be persecuted for going to a church building once a week and smiling a lot !
THIS IS NOT LIVING GODLY BUT BEING LUKEWARM , and trying to do as little as possible to try and punch your ticket to heaven !
But Christ is not stupid , and this will not fly as CHRIST WILL SPEW SUCH AS THESE OUT OF HIS MOUTH !
SO BEWARE AND REPENT IF THIS IS YOU !

 

[PloughBoy]

"And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die." and thats a good thing???? and later they create a golden calf to worship!!

And only two grown people made it to the Promise Land. A 30 plus day journey, took 40 years.

 

[Hekuran]

and as I am going through social media I come across this! Not my words, but it is so profound and on the same topic I had to share;
John Tower

JOHN'S THOUGHTS !
LUKEWARMNESS !
REVELATIONS 3(15&16): I know your works , that you are neither cold or hot , I would you were cold or hot .
So then because you are lukewarm , and neither cold or hot , I WILL SPEW YOU OUT OF MY MOUTH !
Christ says here , that if you want to be a Christian , he wants you to be either sold out hot , or don't bother at all !
HE DOES NOT WANT HALF HEARTS !
If you think going to a church building one day a week and putting on little act and doing nothing else is enough : I've got bad news for you : CHRIST IS GOING TO Spew SUCH PEOPLE OUT OF HIS MOUTH !!
If you don't think enough of Christ to be all the way , Christ would prefer you don't bother at all !
Don't bother going to a building one day a week and mouthing his name and put your little act on because it is not going to fly !
Bible says all that live Godly shall be persecuted , 2 Timothy 3(12) , because speaking his real truth is going to upset a lot if people .
But , you will never be persecuted for going to a church building once a week and smiling a lot !
THIS IS NOT LIVING GODLY BUT BEING LUKEWARM , and trying to do as little as possible to try and punch your ticket to heaven !
But Christ is not stupid , and this will not fly as CHRIST WILL SPEW SUCH AS THESE OUT OF HIS MOUTH !
SO BEWARE AND REPENT IF THIS IS YOU !

@Gregoryp you persistently confuse going to a church building with belonging to a church congregation. God gave us the church as a gift in which we give and receive support, teach, worship, and grow together.

 

[Gregoryp]

@Gregoryp you persistently confuse going to a church building with belonging to a church congregation. God gave us the church as a gift in which we give and receive support, teach, worship, and grow together.

and for many years I have attempted to find a group of people, but the search has been futile. All fall way short of what is written in the bible.

 

[PloughBoy]

@Gregoryp you persistently confuse going to a church building with belonging to a church congregation. God gave us the church as a gift in which we give and receive support, teach, worship, and grow together.

I don't believe The very WORD of GOD teaches such things, Not "ACCORDING to JESUS CHRIST" But I do believe it is taught by "The GOSPEL according to MAN"
But I stand more with the thoughts of "Gregoryp" in Post #12

 

[Rhema]

I don't believe The very WORD of GOD teaches such things, Not "ACCORDING to JESUS CHRIST" But I do believe it is taught by "The GOSPEL according to MAN"
But I stand more with the thoughts of "Gregoryp" in Post #12

Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.​

(Hebrews 10:25 KJV)​

Rhema

PS: But I can see how one could beieve that the book of Hebrews is "The GOSPEL according to MAN"

PPS: It's hard to exhort one another if one excommunicates everybody else.

 

[PloughBoy]

Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.​

(Hebrews 10:25 KJV)​

Rhema

PS: But I can see how one could beieve that the book of Hebrews is "The GOSPEL according to MAN"

PPS: It's hard to exhort one another if one excommunicates everybody else.

Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
(Hebrews 10:25 KJV)

I guess they would need to assembling togetherI They did not have a "new testament" Bible and I know they had problems drawing new testament truths out of Old Testament writings, especially most did not know how to read Like the "Ethiopian" said to Philip, who is he talking about, {Isaiah]. Is he talking about him self or another? So what may we say:

"How then can they call on the One in whom they have not believed [heard about]? And how can they believe in the One of whom they have not heard? And how can they Hear without someone to [Proclaim it to them] preach? ...And how can they [Proclaim it] preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”… [referring to The RUNNER in the Old Testament text]

They better assembling together in those "Greco=Roman" cultures blended together, And The "Hellenistic" flavors of that time.period.
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your quote:
"But I can see how one could beieve that the book of Hebrews is "The GOSPEL according to MAN"

GOD could TOO That is why he had Paul write about it! Ain't GOD wise? He saw it too!

 

[Garee]

Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.​

(Hebrews 10:25 KJV)​

Rhema

PS: But I can see how one could beieve that the book of Hebrews is "The GOSPEL according to MAN"

PPS: It's hard to exhort one another if one excommunicates everybody else.

The reformation had come it took away the abomination of desolation "Kings in Israel" because of their jealousy of the surrounding pagan nations and the reformation restored the order to Judge's. Men and women prophets sent as apostles of all the nations of the world .

The not assembling together had to do with Jewish families . Outward Jew and those born of the Spirit of Christ .

A time of terrible tribulation for a outward Jew (no Spirt of Christ ) One like before or ever again .

The gospel as it is written is still reforming restoring the proper order of faith to a outward Jew.

He was not restoring the period of time back again when there were kings in Israel .Believers are the temple of God not made with human hands .


Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

 

[Rhema]

I guess they would need to assembling together...

That never changed.

I guess they would need to assembling together They did not have a "new testament" Bible

And yet it is this "new testament" Bible that tells people to NOT forsake assembling, because even back then people would do the same thing as today. I often hear, "Well I'm a believer, but we don't have to go to church." Well then who ya gonna exhort? Forsaking the assembly (ekklesia-church) is the same thing today as it was 2,000 years ago. (But we don't like those people.) Attend till you get kicked out. Then find another place. (Rinse, lather, repeat.)

especially most did not know how to read

Well if they didn't know how to read, they did know how to love one another. And if we are to love one another, it's rather obvious that we need to be around others to love. Yet I don't find the illiteracy argument to be convincing. If such was the case, then why write anything? Jews knew how to read, and they taught each other. How else could James say this with a straight face?

Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: But that we write unto them, ... For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.​

(Acts 15:19-21 KJV)​

Even the Ethiopian knew how to read, he just didn't get it.

your quote:
"But I can see how one could beieve that the book of Hebrews is "The GOSPEL according to MAN"

GOD could TOO That is why he had Paul write about it! Ain't GOD wise? He saw it too!

Where did Paul write about the book of Hebrews?

Rhema

 

[PloughBoy]

That never changed.


And yet it is this "new testament" Bible that tells people to NOT forsake assembling, because even back then people would do the same thing as today. I often hear, "Well I'm a believer, but we don't have to go to church." Well then who ya gonna exhort? Forsaking the assembly (ekklesia-church) is the same thing today as it was 2,000 years ago. (But we don't like those people.) Attend till you get kicked out. Then find another place. (Rinse, lather, repeat.)


Well if they didn't know how to read, they did know how to love one another. And if we are to love one another, it's rather obvious that we need to be around others to love. Yet I don't find the illiteracy argument to be convincing. If such was the case, then why write anything? Jews knew how to read, and they taught each other. How else could James say this with a straight face?

Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: But that we write unto them, ... For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.​

(Acts 15:19-21 KJV)​

Even the Ethiopian knew how to read, he just didn't get it.


Where did Paul write about the book of Hebrews?

Rhema

Do you know the different from a letter from a "BOOK"? LOL please give me break. Do you even know the Year the letter was written in and where the Letter was written and who the letter was address to. I know you want to be my friend but you are breaking my Heart.

My kids when they was 5 years old knew the books and the Letters of the New Testament writings! and who wrote them. their ages now is from 29 -46 What do you think we talked about in our household. Football, baseball, Nascar, " This my IDOL". My kids was doing evangelistic work before they was 10 years old talking to Strangers about The "GOSPEL According ot JESUS CHRIST"! "What you was doing over there son talking to that man, daddy I was telling him about JESUS! Mr. & Mrs._________ we need to have a conference with you about your daughter, she does good work, but when she finish she start walking around telling kids about JESUS! And the kids cannot get their work done! the stuff you be taking is pre-teen materials! I am a "Calvinist" Of" The Reformed Faith" "Theology Proper"!
Our surrounds and neighborhood consists of "Jewish" and "Orthodox Jews", Islamic, Chaldeans, Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, Greek Orthodox, Churches Synagogues and Temples, this is our community our children grew up in. for over 25 years. And Christian music was not tolerated in the schools during Christmas times to not offend other religions. They had "Winter Concerts" and "Happy Holiday Seasons" Celebrations! Now could you imagine them "Witnessing" about Jesus! My wife would get mad at me because i would not disciple our children to stop them from witnessing to their class mate and friends.

They would be over our house, it look like a "STAR TREK" convention! Holiday times, a crowd be over my house in the basement for days sleeping over sometimes 5 days and night!. I didn't let my kids spend the night over no body's house! They came over to our house! stay as long as they wanted! full basement weight room, kitchen FullBath with 'Jacuzzi" in the basement. Big screen TV. and my "Biblical Library" down there. and feel free to investigate all you want. everything is down there that you would every need to search it out for your self.

I know you been around, like you said> You Know what the Christianity Community called us ! "Those are "The Smart Ones" They Know everything!
Those "Calvinist" you got to understand "Calvinese" to understand them Ain't none of them going to Heaven, they to smart for their own good

Please give me a break for a little while. for me to get myself together, y'all been coming after me all day. And I do say i have enjoyed it. "For GOD did prepare me as usually, He never fells! Only thing we have to do, is stay in the calling in which he has called us. And do not "murmur" and when we are tempted to do so, Capture that thought and bring it into Captivity. OrHe will give you something to "Murmur" About!

 

[Br. Bear]

But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased Him. And if they were all one member, where were the body? But now are they many members, yet but one body. And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary: and those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness. For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked: that there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.


Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
1Corinthains 12:18-27


Bless you ....><>

 

[Br. Bear]

@PloughBoy

I notice you have not addressed this question, yet

Could you share your simplest description of the gospel.

It may help everyone understand your OP better?


Bless you ....><>