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Are my problems from the devil?

LovingUJesus

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Hello, so something that i have always wondered and has always bothered me was the fact that i thought I had demons in me and that what was made me hear the *voices* and do the terrible things that ive done to myself. i am not proud of any of it but i do suffer from self harm and an eating disorder, i am wondering if i suffer from these things because i am not truly saved. because i dont understand why God would love someone as messed up as me.
 
If an old guy can comment- these are not because of you but in spite of you. Some voices are indeed demonic and need to be ignored. There is also the possibility of a chemical imbalance in the brain causing this. This is a treatable medical condition. God sometimes heals divinely, sometimes He uses the ability to heal that He built into our bodies and sometimes He uses doctors. The medicines they have are made from things that He placed here in advance for our use- all healing comes from God.
So while this problem has nothing to do with your salvation (an in fact the devil attacks those who belong to God) you may benefit from a checkup.
Lastly, give yourself a spiritual checkup. Are you spending time in the Word of God? Are you talking to God throughout the day (praying and fellowshipping) and are you spending time in worship? Draw near to God and He will draw near to you my friend.
Many blessings in His Name,
your brother Larry.
 
thank you for your reply, I have in fact been seen many times by drs and I am on medication however i always have the feeling that I am being punished by it or that as above it is something from Satan, What you have said makes sense, and once again i thank you.
 
Acts16:27-31
"27And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled.
28But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here.
29Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
30And brought them out, and said,

Sirs, WHAT MUST I DO TO BE SAVED?

31And they said, BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST,
and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

God says to all, in Mark16:9,
"Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

Luke8:2,
"And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,"

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Peace be unto you t:)

God Our Truly Good Father, and Jesus Our Truly Good Brother, and Lord, and Savior, and God and King, and All in All truly loves all WITH AN EVERLASTING LOVE, JESUS HIMSELF (Jeremiah

Jesus Himself, Who alone has all power, truly lives within each of us.

But our spiritual ignorance and our evil unbelief and

So what is God's Answer to all our problems? Simply Jesus Himself, WITHIN US.

1 - Jesus is our only hope forever, for all things, both in time and in Eternity.

2 - and WHOLEHEARTED FAITH IN JESUS alone forever is our ONLY LINK TO OUR ONLY ETERNAL SALVATION and Eternal Help, Jesus.

Read Acts 16:30,31 The Phillipian jailor was about to kill himself,
but God gave The True Apostle Paul and The True Prophet Silas, knowledge of what he planned to do...so they cried out...DO YOURSELF NO HARM...we are all here.

God says the same to you, dear child of God, DO YOURSELF NO HARM. Jesus said, "Come unto ME, all you who labor, and are heavy laden, and I will give you REST (Jesus Himself)

Simply pray these prayers from the center of your heart, silently to God in your daily quiet time with God. God hears you the first time you pray, so just keep your heart open to God's Grace as much as possible after you pray...so God can little by little flood you with His Saving Grace.

Belief in Jesus
Receiving God's Grace
Thanking God in advance for all the truly good things that God is gonna do for the good of your spirit inwardly
and praying simply childlike prayers to God for God to simply save you, keep you, help you, guide you, love you, and let you love Him,
and teach you how to pray...are all things that please God and that keep our heart open to God's Necessary Saving Grace, that is truly invisible all around you.

BUT let your goal be WHOLEHEARTED TRUST IN JESUS ALONE FOREVER
AND WHOLEHEARTED SURRENDER of your evil selfish will to His Truly Good Peaceful Will, so that Jesus can little by little, destroy the evil strongholds that satan has built up in your soul, through years of doing things your own evil selfish way.

Lord Jesus, I believe, help you my unbelief.
God be merciful to me a sinner.
Lord Jesus, please save me according to Your Mercy
Lord Jesus, please undertake for me, for I am oppressed
(by the devil)

But we are all naturally evil stubborn and rebellious, although most people don't admit to it. And this LIE and denial of The Truth, that God and Jesus alone forever are good, and that we are evil, and that all of us TRULY NEED JESUS for every moment of life, and for every thing that troubles us.

Simply trust and turn inwardly and WHOLEHEARTEDLY pray,
God be merciful to me a sinner, as often as needed.

Bottom line...God Our Truly Good Father, and Jesus Our Truly Good Brother and Lord and Savior and God and King, and All in All,
truly begs and commands all true Christians for their own good,
to simply do 3 things in order to truly cooperate with God's Divine Grace...so that little by little, Jesus can makes us better.

1 - wholehearted trust in Jesus alone forever for Our Eternal Salvation
(Proverbs3:5,6) (Acts 16:30,31) (Romans10:9,10)
2 - wholehearted casting all our care upon Jesus, for Jesus truly cares for us. (1 Peter 5:7)
3 - wholehearted RETURNING INWARDLY to Jesus in the center of our spirit to Abide with Jesus in the spiritual safety zone forever (Psalms91) (Joel2:12)

Only Jesus can save any of us ok? but Jesus always wait until the last moment to save us, to prove to us, that we truly need Him, and to warn us and teach us in His Truly Perfect Love, never to stray from Him in the future, but stay safe with Jesus within forever.

God and Jesus alone forever is faithful and will truly save us in His Truly Good Time and in His Truly Good Way.

Jesus' part is to save us and Jesus will never fail to save us,
IF...we do our part and simply trust in Jesus alone forever,
like a little child for every thing that scares us, every moment and forever.

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Beloved reader, peruse this little treatise with a humble, sincere and
candid spirit, and not with an inclination to cavil and criticize, and
you will not fail to reap some degree of profit from it. It was written
with a hearty desire that you might wholly devote yourself to God;
receive it, then, with a like desire for your own perfection: for
nothing more is intended by it than to invite the simple and child-like
to approach their Father, who delights in the humble confidence of His
children, and is grieved at the smallest instance of their diffidence
or distrust. With a sincere desire, therefore, to forsake sin, seek
nothing from the unpretending method here proposed but the Love of God,
and you shall undoubtedly obtain it.

It is Thou alone, O Holy Jesus, who lovest simplicity and innocence,
"and whose delight is to dwell with the children of men" (Prov. viii.
31), with those who are, indeed, willing to become "little children";
it is Thou alone, who canst render this little work of any value by
imprinting it on the hearts of all who read it, and leading them to
seek Thee within themselves, where Thou reposest as in the manger,
waiting to receive proofs of their love, and to give them testimony of
Thine. Yet alas! They may still lose these unspeakable advantages by
their negligence and insensibility! But it belongeth unto Thee, O thou
Uncreated Love! Thou Silent and Eternal Word! it belongeth unto Thee,
to awaken, attract, and convert; to make Thyself be heard, tasted, and
beloved! I know Thou canst do it, and I trust Thou wilt do it by this
humble work which belongeth entirely to Thee, proceedeth wholly from
Thee, and tendeth only to Thee! And, O most Gracious and adorable
Saviour!

To Thee be all the Glory!

Jeanne Guyon, France, late 1600s
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In Christ,
John
 
Peace be unto you

Dear Weary child of God

I truly recommend you to a true Christian lady saint, Madame Jeanne Guyon, who Jesus led away from the outer empty religious rituals of men, into a WHOLHEARTED truly true inward pursuit, like Abraham, of The simply Loving Heart of Jesus within her.

Jesus said, "Few there be who find it." "The Kingdom of Heaven is WITHIN YOU."

Guyon was one of the few true lady saints of God and Jesus in her day...not because the pope said so...but because Jesus helped her to truly and totally please God...little by little. God gave her The Inner Grace of God to suffer about 10 years in prison, some in the infamous French Bastille, for her WHOLEHEARTED FAITH IN JESUS.

but God rewarded her sufferings, by letting her experience God's Perfect Peace within her spirit, and she outwardly suffered for The Glory of God.

google guyon and short method of prayer...for the secret of inner prayer that every true Chrisitian MUST learn...sooner or later...if he has even the slighest hope of going to Heaven. t:)

God taught her as a young lady through a true priest of God
(not the many false priests of then and now)
that all of our troubles come because...

“it is because you seek without,
Jesus Himself, Whom you have within.

Accustom yourself to seek God in your heart,
and you will there find Him[1].”

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Madame Guyon's Spiritual Contributions
Madame Guyon’s personal breakthrough in prayer came through an encounter with a religious man of the order of St. Francis when he said, “it is because you seek without what you have within. Accustom yourself to seek God in your heart, and you will there find Him[1].” This started Guyon on a new discovery in Quietism; one form of mysticism she embraced. Her constant trials and pain fostered with her a tenacity to pursue Christ and no other passions; which is a hallmark of her resolute commitment to bearing the cross of Christ. This nature of prayer led her to a life of abandonment to Christ and His will where in “losing all gifts, she found the Giver”[2]. She became known for propagating “a union so great with the will of God, that her own will seemed entirely lost.”[3]

Guyon advocated two ways of prayer; “one is by meditating on the Word and the other is by reading the Word and then meditating in prayer”[4]. Contrary to popular beliefs that Guyon’s mysticism is based purely on experience and not on Scriptures, her discourse ‘Short and Easy Method of Prayer’ promotes a strong foundation of using and praying Scriptures as a basis to draw near to God. Every believer, laity and even the least uneducated, must focus on Christ alone; and be taught the act of adoration, the value of silence, and a building of faith in God through His word[5]. Guyon argued that prayer is not passivity but rather a yielding to His grace in a state of peace, rest and non striving of self. [6]

Another outstanding difference in Guyon’s prayer teaching refers to the matters of the heart. Perhaps, this statement sums up the importance of prayers from the heart; “once the heart is gained, how easily is all the rest corrected![7]” In an era where rationalism and intellectualism ruled even the religion, Guyon championed as an apostle of prayer[8]; teaching prayer as from the heart and not the head nor understanding[9]. Yet this kind of prayer is not devoid of understanding or objectivity but rather an act of commitment of the will in total submission to the purposes and love of Jesus Christ. She sought to redeem the relational dimension of prayer with a loving God in an environment where religious formalities and rationalism devoid of love, commitment and surrender[10].

Guyon’s teaching on prayer from the heart does not rule out the head completely. Prayer from the heart is not based purely on emotions. From Guyon’s writing, such prayer is from the deepest of an individual; the seat of human decision, volition and affection. It is an exhortation true to the religious climate of its time to enter into relationship with God without the religious trappings. It is important to realize that that such intimacy with God does not take place in the vacuum of the Holy Scriptures. From the writing on ‘A Short and Easy Method to Prayer’, it is obvious that it is scriptural and Guyon advocated prayers based on meditation, reflection, prayer and obedience to the Word of God. Such prayer as the Quietists defined is a prayer that confirms the obedience of the Scripture. It is not the use of mystic experiences to judge Scripture but rather using scripture in prayer to judge one’s obedience and experience in Christ.

Guyon’s personal life testimony and moral character is a true reflection of her commitment to Christ and the gospel. Her teachings on prayer and spirituality promise to bring believers to a deeper dimension of Christian spirituality; where a willing and utter surrendering of one’s will to the grace and love of God brings a union which produces pure love, pure faith and pure commitment.

Guyon left behind a legacy of mysticism that brought renewal to the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. Besides her two published works, ‘A Short and Easy Method of Prayer’ and a commentary on the Song of Songs, she also had forty volumes and a commentary on the Bible[11]. Guyon is recognized as an authority on spirituality among the Pietists, Quakers, Methodists and other movements of the time. In fact, Guyon’s works are “read in North America, since the mid-eighteenth century, first by the Protestants from groups outside of established churches, then by the adherents of the nineteenth-century revivalism and finally by members of cross denominational movements stressing on ‘inner’ and ‘deeper’ Christian life[12].” It is also noted that great Christian leaders like Watchman Nee, Hudson Taylor, Andrew Murray, Jesse Penn-Lewis uphold Madame Guyon in high regard for her life and contribution to the Christian Body[13].

Blessings in Jesus,
Rev. Bryan Tan
Bryan Tan Ministries
Lifting People into their Destinies
 
continue seeing doctors and trying to figure out what's going on. Chemical Imbalance seems probable. I'll be praying for you.
 
i am wondering if i suffer from these things because i am not truly saved. because i dont understand why God would love someone as messed up as me.

While there is such a thing as demonic harrassment, you must keep in mind that disorders such as you are afflicted with are widespread and can be healed with persistent prayer, qualified counselors, and faith in the process. As to why God loves you, as you grow in your faith you'll come to understand what John was saying when he wrote "God IS love" (1 Jn 4:8).

SLE
 
Wow, I just want to tell you, God loves you so much and He is not the one condemning you, dear sister. Take strength and courage from Him. It could be a chemical imbalance, or just oppression from the enemy (not the indwelling of a demon, but outer influences).

Seek Him first. Seek counseling of a qualified counselor/psychologist/or psychiatrist.

Know that we love you and are praying for you! We are on your side. And especially, THE FATHER OF ALL FATHERS is on your side.
 
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