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Are there prophets in the church today?

Chad

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The gift of prophet (Ephesians 4:11) seems to have been a temporary gift given by Christ for the laying of the foundation of the church. Prophets were foundational to the church (Ephesians 2:20). The prophet proclaimed a message from the Lord to the early believers. Sometimes a prophet’s message was revelatory (new revelation and truth from God) and sometimes a prophet’s message was predictive (see Acts 11:28 and 21:10). The early Christians did not have the complete Bible. Some early Christians did not have access to any of the books of the New Testament. The New Testament prophets “filled the gap” by proclaiming God’s message to the people who would not have access to it otherwise. The last book of the New Testament (Revelation) was not completed until late in the first century. So, the Lord sent prophets to proclaim God’s Word to His people.

Are there true prophets today? If the purpose of a prophet was to reveal truth from God, why would we need prophets if we have the completed revelation from God in the Bible? If prophets were the “foundation” of the early church, are we still building the “foundation” today? Can God give someone a message to deliver to someone else? Absolutely! Does God reveal truth to someone in a supernatural way and enable that person to deliver that message to others? Absolutely! But is this the biblical gift of prophecy? No.

Whatever the case, whenever a person claims to be speaking for God (the essence of prophecy) the key is to compare what is said with what the Bible says. If God were to speak through a person today, it would be in 100% complete agreement with what God has already said in the Bible. God does not contradict Himself. 1 John 4:1 instructs us, “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 declares, “Do not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good.” So, whether it is a “word from the Lord” or a supposed prophecy, our response should be the same. Compare what is said to what the Word of God says. If it contradicts the Bible, throw it out. If it agrees with the Bible, pray for wisdom and discernment as to how to apply the message (2 Timothy 3:16-17; James 1:5).

 
Got questions isn't always the most reliable source.

There's not the tiniest sliver of biblical evidence that prophecy was intended to be a temporary measure until the biblical canon was complete.
 
Acts 2:17; 'AND IT SHALL BE IN THE LAST DAYS,' God says, 'THAT I WILL POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL MANKIND; AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY, AND YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS, AND YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS;

I would say this is more the "last" days than when that was written.

1Cor 14:37; If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord's commandment.

Got questions isn't always the most reliable source.

Definitely baptist/cessationist leaning.
 
There are no new prophecy to come that isn’t already recorded in the Bible.
What could God tell a prophet of today,Jesus is coming again? We’ve been told already. That lost will be punished,?We’ve been told that already.
Nope. Nothing more God can tell us
 
There are no new prophecy to come that isn’t already recorded in the Bible.
What could God tell a prophet of today,Jesus is coming again? We’ve been told already. That lost will be punished,?We’ve been told that already.
Nope. Nothing more God can tell us
In the book of Acts a prophet said that a famine was coming, and this prompted the church to action. Is it impossible or even unlikely that God could speak through a prophet today with a message of the same kind?
 
Rev 10:7; but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, then the mystery of God is finished, as He preached to His servants the prophets.
Rev 11:10; And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and celebrate; and they will send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.

The two witnesses of Revelation are called prophets. I didn't realize they already died.
 
Rev 10:7; but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, then the mystery of God is finished, as He preached to His servants the prophets.
Rev 11:10; And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and celebrate; and they will send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.

The two witnesses of Revelation are called prophets. I didn't realize they already died.

Different time frame.
The two are not witnessing during church age.
There is no angel ministry today either during church age. But will be during tribulation,after the church has been called out.
 
There are various kinds of prophets, but in my opinion God holds it self evident that he sent his son to die for your sins, so there is no need of a "prophet" like in the OT, to give anyone any new revelation publically and let 8 billion people add it to the bible.

As for myself, i've been given prophetic accurate advice by half a dozen people in a decade.

One of them claims to be a prophet, has a lot of "interesting" comments on his facebook page, mostly by women. a certain pastor told me he isn't reliable. The night after he spoke a rather lengthy word to me, In the dream i spoke to him, in the church we met in.. and i asked him some question and i asked him, why are you in this church? and in the dream he replied "because there is less spiritual darkness here"

I interpreted that dream to mean the prophet is compromised, not doing his job out in the field.

"the gifts of the Lord are without repentance" -God does not take them away. look at all the pastors who seem to be legit teachers, making rich sermons for their churchs? yet their personal relationship with God falls apart when they slip into sin, and no one notices till it all blows up.
 
churches of earthThe gift of prophet (Ephesians 4:11) seems to have been a temporary gift given by Christ for the laying of the foundation of the church. Prophets were foundational to the church (Ephesians 2:20). The prophet proclaimed a message from the Lord to the early believers. Sometimes a prophet’s message was revelatory (new revelation and truth from God) and sometimes a prophet’s message was predictive (see Acts 11:28 and 21:10). The early Christians did not have the complete Bible. Some early Christians did not have access to any of the books of the New Testament. The New Testament prophets “filled the gap” by proclaiming God’s message to the people who would not have access to it otherwise. The last book of the New Testament (Revelation) was not completed until late in the first century. So, the Lord sent prophets to proclaim God’s Word to His people.

Are there true prophets today? If the purpose of a prophet was to reveal truth from God, why would we need prophets if we have the completed revelation from God in the Bible? If prophets were the “foundation” of the early church, are we still building the “foundation” today? Can God give someone a message to deliver to someone else? Absolutely! Does God reveal truth to someone in a supernatural way and enable that person to deliver that message to others? Absolutely! But is this the biblical gift of prophecy? No.

Whatever the case, whenever a person claims to be speaking for God (the essence of prophecy) the key is to compare what is said with what the Bible says. If God were to speak through a person today, it would be in 100% complete agreement with what God has already said in the Bible. God does not contradict Himself. 1 John 4:1 instructs us, “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 declares, “Do not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good.” So, whether it is a “word from the Lord” or a supposed prophecy, our response should be the same. Compare what is said to what the Word of God says. If it contradicts the Bible, throw it out. If it agrees with the Bible, pray for wisdom and discernment as to how to apply the message (2 Timothy 3:16-17; James 1:5).


Well prophets are probably usually not in the churches of earth these days, cause most Christians will bully us, start blaspheming the Holy Spirit and other vile things when we bring our prophecies from God.

Some will start claiming that Paul rebelled against Jesus, and took from Him the power to appoint prophets. That is of course not true.

Paul instead wrote clearly that it is Jesus who appoints prophets, along with others positions/ job opportunities in the body of Christ. It is written here:

…10He who descended is the very One who ascended above all the heavens, in order to fill all things. 11And it was He who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, 12to equip the saints for works of ministry and to build up the body of Christ,…

It is not advisable for anybody to rebel against God. Jesus warns you for example here against of insulting, attacking or ignoring prophets sent by God:

5 “But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business. 6 The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them. 7 The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city.

I too will warn you, know that what you are doing is very dangerous for you. God is the judge, and will judge as He pleases, but generally as Jesus has warned to before He will punish those who attack His prophets harshly.

Many christians of today also claim falsely about Paul that He has said there are no prophets after Jesus came to earth in the flesh. But that of course is also an ugly lie, here is Paul:

28But if there is no interpreter, he should remain silent in the church and speak only to himself and God. 29 Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. 30And if a revelation comes to someone who is seated, the first speaker should stop.…

Here I will tell you though, even though I love and appreciate Paul, he is balancing on a knifes edge. As a general rule what he says seem wise. But if Paul is saying here that a prophet should be silent “if there is no interpreter”, if he is saying a prophet should not obey God, if he is told to speak, like I have myself been told, he is stepping over the line.

Here however we are told to weigh what a prophets says: Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop. For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged. The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets.

Claiming that Paul said there are no prophets, is plainly absurd.
 
He didnt say this in the book of ephesians chap 4, where did paul say this? If its what I think it is, he is talking about speaking in angelic tongues which may or may not be prophesying.
 
A prophet may speak in the way He is led to by God

One time God led me to sing in tongues, and send the song to a sister,
It turned out the song was in Hindi, an indian language that I do not speak
that happened to be her mothers tongue, (there are about 700 languages i India).

I had no idea what I was singing, but I will testify to you that every word was in Hindi.

Other times I am asked to speak in english.

God rules

God rules all His servants

God let us know He is good.

When we know God is good, we do not mind that He will appoint teachers and prophets, and other workers for the Kingdom.
Then we understand it is a heavenly gift.
 
A prophet may speak in the way He is led to by God

One time God led me to sing in tongues, and send the song to a sister,
It turned out the song was in Hindi, an indian language that I do not speak
that happened to be her mothers tongue, (there are about 700 languages i India).

I had no idea what I was singing, but I will testify to you that every word was in Hindi.

Other times I am asked to speak in english.

God rules

God rules all His servants

God let us know He is good.

When we know God is good, we do not mind that He will appoint teachers and prophets, and other workers for the Kingdom.
Then we understand it is a heavenly gift.
what are some ways to tell if we hear from a false prophet? For I know many prophets that claimed Trump would win the last election and yet when he lost lot of them made excuses like, well the other side cheated Trump really won, or I know of one who said well its the next election he will win,(this came out after some time)

How do we treat thsese false "prophets" do we call them out, I know we pray for them and hope they see the light one day, if that is possible, some of them come off very very nice, would a prophet be Catholic?

thanks
 
I can tell you that a true Prophet will be sent to serve God, and since God is good, what serves Him serves all.

Will not try to keep a lot of secrets, and only tell them if you pay him 60 dollars.

Will not try to be the shepherd instead of Jesus, but point people in His direction to ask for His guidance.


The way to to walk towards Him Who is purity is to clean,

Is to repent towards the remission of sin


The way to walk towards Him Who is Light

Is to rid yourself of darkness


I cannot do it for you


You cannot even do it yourself

Jesus must help you, they way towards purity is a path full of

thorns and obstacles, the sins are thousands upon thousands

You would even have forgotten some, we need His help to clean


But starting to clean is knocking so that the dorr may be opened


Starting to rid ourselves of darkness is searching for the light.


And those who searches shall find promises the Lord.


But first of all is Love, the first commandment given to us by Jesus, with out it we will not long for Him who is love, we will not walk towards purity, but play in the dirt like pigs.

A true prophet will tell you that what Jesus says is important is important.


When Jesus says lamps are important a true prophet will tell you the same, when He tells us the first commandment is the greatest and that the law and all prophets rests upon it, then a true prophet will tell you the same. When Jesus says the eye is important, that it is the lamp of the body, and that without it you are in darkness complete since you even believe it is light, then a true prophet will tell you the same thing.


Jesus has given me as my main mission to come with the summer for the Figtree. The figtree will bloom when h´His teachings are complete, then they work.


He is the way the truth and the life


Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.


So is the beginning and the end of the way Love for Father


To Love God our Father with all our hearts minds and souls
 
There are various kinds of prophets, but in my opinion God holds it self evident that he sent his son to die for your sins, so there is no need of a "prophet" like in the OT, to give anyone any new revelation publically and let 8 billion people add it to the bible.

As for myself, i've been given prophetic accurate advice by half a dozen people in a decade.

One of them claims to be a prophet, has a lot of "interesting" comments on his facebook page, mostly by women. a certain pastor told me he isn't reliable. The night after he spoke a rather lengthy word to me, In the dream i spoke to him, in the church we met in.. and i asked him some question and i asked him, why are you in this church? and in the dream he replied "because there is less spiritual darkness here"

I interpreted that dream to mean the prophet is compromised, not doing his job out in the field.

"the gifts of the Lord are without repentance" -God does not take them away. look at all the pastors who seem to be legit teachers, making rich sermons for their churchs? yet their personal relationship with God falls apart when they slip into sin, and no one notices till it all blows up.

There are no prophets today.
During tribulation perhaps yes.
But for now there is nothing new to predict.
We know the outcome
 
The gift of prophet (Ephesians 4:11) seems to have been a temporary gift given by Christ for the laying of the foundation of the church. Prophets were foundational to the church (Ephesians 2:20). The prophet proclaimed a message from the Lord to the early believers. Sometimes a prophet’s message was revelatory (new revelation and truth from God) and sometimes a prophet’s message was predictive (see Acts 11:28 and 21:10). The early Christians did not have the complete Bible. Some early Christians did not have access to any of the books of the New Testament. The New Testament prophets “filled the gap” by proclaiming God’s message to the people who would not have access to it otherwise. The last book of the New Testament (Revelation) was not completed until late in the first century. So, the Lord sent prophets to proclaim God’s Word to His people.

Are there true prophets today? If the purpose of a prophet was to reveal truth from God, why would we need prophets if we have the completed revelation from God in the Bible? If prophets were the “foundation” of the early church, are we still building the “foundation” today? Can God give someone a message to deliver to someone else? Absolutely! Does God reveal truth to someone in a supernatural way and enable that person to deliver that message to others? Absolutely! But is this the biblical gift of prophecy? No.

Whatever the case, whenever a person claims to be speaking for God (the essence of prophecy) the key is to compare what is said with what the Bible says. If God were to speak through a person today, it would be in 100% complete agreement with what God has already said in the Bible. God does not contradict Himself. 1 John 4:1 instructs us, “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 declares, “Do not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good.” So, whether it is a “word from the Lord” or a supposed prophecy, our response should be the same. Compare what is said to what the Word of God says. If it contradicts the Bible, throw it out. If it agrees with the Bible, pray for wisdom and discernment as to how to apply the message (2 Timothy 3:16-17; James 1:5).

According to 1 Corinthians Chapter 12, God can call and use someone for the role of Prophet anytime he chooses, as one of the 9 Gifts of the Spirit mentioned there.
 
Paul said,”Now we see through a glass darkly,’ but when that which is perfect has come……..”.

Many theologians believe this to be the scriptures
I can’t argue either way
 
Paul said,”Now we see through a glass darkly,’ but when that which is perfect has come……..”.

Many theologians believe this to be the scriptures
I can’t argue either way
A great majority of the Church believes that. I believe that "that which is perfect has come" does not refer to the completion of the New Testament canon or the cessation of the apostolic age. Instead, I view "the perfect" as referring to the coming of Christ and the establishment of His eternal kingdom at the end of the age. This aligns with the fact that spiritual gifts are still relevant and necessary for the church until Christ's return.

Spiritual gifts, including prophecy, are given for the edification, exhortation, and comfort of the church (as per 1 Corinthians 14:3), these gifts will continue to operate until the second coming of Christ, which is when believers will fully know as they are known, rendering the partial knowledge provided by gifts like prophecy and tongues unnecessary.

The continuation of all spiritual gifts are a means to build up the church in love until the perfect state of eternal fellowship with God is realized with Christ's return. The ongoing operation of these gifts as essential for the spiritual growth and unity of the church.
 
A great majority of the Church believes that. I believe that "that which is perfect has come" does not refer to the completion of the New Testament canon or the cessation of the apostolic age. Instead, I view "the perfect" as referring to the coming of Christ and the establishment of His eternal kingdom at the end of the age. This aligns with the fact that spiritual gifts are still relevant and necessary for the church until Christ's return.

Spiritual gifts, including prophecy, are given for the edification, exhortation, and comfort of the church (as per 1 Corinthians 14:3), these gifts will continue to operate until the second coming of Christ, which is when believers will fully know as they are known, rendering the partial knowledge provided by gifts like prophecy and tongues unnecessary.

The continuation of all spiritual gifts are a means to build up the church in love until the perfect state of eternal fellowship with God is realized with Christ's return. The ongoing operation of these gifts as essential for the spiritual growth and unity of the church.

Hi.
That’s fine. It’s not necessary for salvation to believe one way or the other.
I personally,believe those signs/gifts,have ended. But again,no big deal
God Bless and welcome to TJ
 
Hi.
That’s fine. It’s not necessary for salvation to believe one way or the other.
I personally,believe those signs/gifts,have ended. But again,no big deal
God Bless and welcome to TJ
I love all my brothers and sisters in the Lord, but please don't say that the Gifts of God are no big deal. Everything we receive from God is His Grace, including Salvation, Repentance, Gifts of The Spirit, etc.. That grace is available to all, but only comes to individuals through Faith (by Grace..Through Faith).

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

So therefore if people believe in Faith they are no longer available, than they don't have Faith to receive them, because they simply don't believe they are.

Not meant to be argumentative just showing if we are going to receive something from God it will always be through faith either ours or someone praying on our behalf. God Bless and thanks for welcoming me to TJ
 
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Noone on Earth brings new revelation, that isn't already revealed through the Word of God (Jesus Christ), which is fullest revelation given to man. Through the moving and operation of the Holy Ghost, I Pray what we say here (with Scriptural backing) brings the truth of these Revelations, truth by truth, or precept upon precept, to the heart of the hearer. Lay what we say before the feet of Jesus (Word of God) and compare, the Bible is Always truth, so if they don't match, we need to reevaluate our stance. What we say or do here will have lasting impact upon the believer and sinner alike. We most certainly have freedom of speech, but any true christian will weigh what they say against the Word of God and if they don't agree God is not in error, and we need to pray for understanding. Those that have more meat of the Word can help those who are struggling, if done with humility, peace and love. I don't mind a peaceful debate, but when we start to argue amongst each other that is not the Spirit of God. God Bless and Peace to you all. (This signature is in general and not pointing fingers at anyone at anytime. God Bless.)
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