Bibles which omit 1 John 5:7 are of the devil!

[Rejoice evermore.]

If you have a bible which removes the latter part of 1 John 5:7, then your "bible" is not the word of God. The Authorized (King James) Version of the Holy Bible is the word of God for those of us who speak english. The reason why bibles which pervert 1 John 5:7 are not the word of God is because they negate a precept which the Holy Ghost has set forth in both testaments. Which is:

"...At the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established."
— (Deuteronomy 19:15).

And again in the new testament:

"...In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established."
— (2 Corinthians 13:1).

And so, the Holy Ghost has given us two witnesses. Heaven:

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
— (1 John 5:7).

And earth:

"And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."
— (1 John 5:8).

And what is the record?

"...That God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life."
— (1 John 5:11-12).

May God reveal this to you. Because the hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the LORD hath made even both of them. Amen.

"The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant."
— (Psalm 25:14).

 

[Hekuran]

Silly post. It's not negation, it's omission. And it's omission on good grounds, because the most reliable Greek manuscripts do not contain the extra words.

The Bible I use omits the extra words from the main text and includes them in a footnote. In your opinion does this make my translation of Bible of the Devil or of the Lord?

 

[Rejoice evermore.]

Silly post. It's not negation, it's omission. And it's omission on good grounds, because the most reliable Greek manuscripts do not contain the extra words.

The Bible I use omits the extra words from the main text and includes them in a footnote. In your opinion does this make my translation of Bible of the Devil or of the Lord?

It is a silly post to you, blind man, because the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The Lord rebuke you.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

If you have a bible which removes the latter part of 1 John 5:7, then your "bible" is not the word of God. The Authorized (King James) Version of the Holy Bible is the word of God for those of us who speak english. The reason why bibles which pervert 1 John 5:7 are not the word of God is because they negate a precept which the Holy Ghost has set forth in both testaments.

Silly post. It's not negation, it's omission. And it's omission on good grounds, because the most reliable Greek manuscripts do not contain the extra words.

The Bible I use omits the extra words from the main text and includes them in a footnote. In your opinion does this make my translation of Bible of the Devil or of the Lord?

Don't be obsessed with the wording and the text, that's real folly. Use your own brain to think, let the spirit of truth guide you, and determine what the "trinity" really means to you. The traditional "three in one" doctrine is problematic because it inevitably implies three gods or splits one god into three, so instead of three in one, think of the trinity as ONE IN THREE - God, the Word of God and the Spirit of God. And there you have it, 1 John 5:7, still one God, but a triad of witnesses. Don't challenge the text, chanllenge your own perspective.

 

[Rejoice evermore.]

Don't be obsessed with the wording and the text, that's real folly. Use your own brain to think, let the spirit of truth guide you, and determine what the "trinity" really means to you. The traditional "three in one" doctrine is problematic because it inevitably implies three gods or splits one god into three, so instead of three in one, think of the trinity as ONE IN THREE - God, the Word of God and the Spirit of God. And there you have it, 1 John 5:7, still one God, but a triad of witnesses. Don't challenge the text, chanllenge your own perspective.

Good day, Sir. If the word of God is “folly” to you, then perhaps you should stop calling yourself a christian. However, believing in doctrines of devils such as the trinity swiftly excludes you from the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. As it is written:

Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

It does not matter what vain terms you use to describe your beloved and damnable heresy. You are still making manifest unto all who are born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever, that there is no light in you, sir.

It is written:

To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

The holy scriptures say that there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Therefore, all trinitarians are antichrist! For they say that Jesus is God the Son. But the holy scriptures say that he is the Christ, the Son of the living God.

As it is written:

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

You would do well to seek God in the Word, Jonathan instead of uttering words without knowledge.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Good day, Sir. If the word of God is “folly” to you, then perhaps you should stop calling yourself a christian. However, believing in doctrines of devils such as the trinity swiftly excludes you from the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

You are greatly mistaken. You seem triggered by the words "trinity" and "trinitarian", sir, that's folly. I'm actually with you 100% on this, I'm not against the word of God, I'm against the doctrine based on an erroneous interpretation of the word of God. And according to the word of God, there is God the creator of the universe, there's that one mediator between us and God, and there's His Spirit that dwells within us. It doesn't matter what kind of doctrine you abide to or what terminology you prefer to call it, the only thing matters is whether you have a relationship with Jesus/Yeshua or not.

 

[Rejoice evermore.]

You are greatly mistaken. You seem triggered by the words "trinity" and "trinitarian", sir, that's folly. I'm actually with you 100% on this, I'm not against the word of God, I'm against the doctrine based on an erroneous interpretation of the word of God. And according to the word of God, there is God the creator of the universe, there's that one mediator between us and God, and there's His Spirit that dwells within us. It doesn't matter what kind of doctrine you abide to or what terminology you prefer to call it, the only thing matters is whether you have a relationship with Jesus/Yeshua or not.

Sir, I am not “triggered” by doctrines of devils. I gave you my Father’s Word and have not interpreted anything. I am of God: he that knoweth God heareth me; he that is not of God heareth not me. Hereby know I the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

If you were of God, you would have never written such folly without shame as you did here. The Lord Jesus said that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

You seem to be unable to hear the word of God seeing that you love the darkness and continue in your present rebellion. I take my leave of you therefore as I am commanded: Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.

My brethren are those which hear the word of God, and do it.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Sir, I am not “triggered” by doctrines of devils. I gave you my Father’s Word and have not interpreted anything. I am of God: he that knoweth God heareth me; he that is not of God heareth not me. Hereby know I the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

If you were of God, you would have never written such folly without shame as you did here. The Lord Jesus said that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

You seem to be unable to hear the word of God seeing that you love the darkness and continue in your present rebellion. I take my leave of you therefore as I am commanded: Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.

My brethren are those which hear the word of God, and do it.

You wouldn't have written such pompous words with such a pious attitude that you are smarter and more righteous than everybody else if you were really "of God". Nobody is "of God", only Lord Jesus is, the only thing we deserve is the wrath of God, for which God himself died so we get to live. I'm not here to pick up a fight with you, sir, and I'm not here to defend any doctrine and any particular bible version. You, on the other hand, seem to be unable to here what you yourself is saying.

 

[watertolive]

It doesn't matter what text you use, as I am quite certain, one can do nothing against the truth but for the Truth.

God is all, and in you ALL.
All praise glory and honor be unto God

 

[Waggles]

If you have a bible which removes the latter part of 1 John 5:7, then your "bible" is not the word of God.

What a load of rubbish !!
What is it with this worship of the KJV cult??

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings all,

Member 'Rejoice evermore' has been given an extended vacation and will not be replying.

This thread will most likely be deleted.


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