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lentz

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I didnt know where to post this. The moderator can move if wishes.

But i am struggling inwardly about how to help my nieghbors.
I dont know much about them,other than they argue and fight constantly in the front yard. Sometimes its physical,but always vulgar cursings. They both drink. The woman runs him off every other day,then he's back. I do not know if they are married,there are two beautiful little girls.
I am ashamed i dont know them better. That is my fault. The woman came to visit one day as i was sitting in the yard. She brought me a beer,i turned it down and she didnt stay any longer.
But my heart hurts for them. But i wont just go and start spouting bible. And i know poking ones nose in othets domestic problems can be dangerous. They will both turn on you.
I have asked God to open a door,but perhaps he is wanting ME to move.
How would you who are more spiritual handle this?
All help will be appreciated.
Thanks
 
2Co 3:2 You are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read by all men;
2Co 3:3 clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart.

One of The greatest way of ministering the gospel is by being a living epistle known and read by all men. Living the gospel speaks volumes to those around you without ever saying a word. Prayer works miracles On the behalf of others.
 
I would be in prayer about it.
Be friendly and neighborly and bid them hello and good day, don't be afraid to express kindness to your neighbor. Love them but let God do the doing. There are wolves and dogs and pigs to avoid so leave the bigger stuff to the will, way, and timing of the Lord. Holy Bible tells about drinkers, and behaviors not to involve ourselves in; heed the Word.
 
Greetings,

according to your [faith] desire to see blessings upon them and their daughters, pray.

Pray for opportunity and do so as much as you are willing to go, if sent by the Lord, be it over the fence or to their yard, but do pray and heed the advice given thus far.

In their present situation, is the LORD's hand shortened that is can not save?

While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Be thankful that you have this opportunity to see the glory of God manifest.


Keep us posted.

remember though, pray.... don't rush in and yet don't delay... but do PRAY

Jesus is the lord


Bless you ....><>
 
Prayer alone is not enough, we should all actually be doing things.

Start with the simplest least controversial neighborly thing possible. Ask to borrow a spanner, offer some surplus vegetables from your yard, just introduce yourself saying it's a shame that we've never really talked.

Just be kind, gracious and open. If you are the kind of neighbour they can trust sooner or later there might be an opportunity to offer something more substantial.
 
Greetings once more,

without knowing more detail of the situation between the couple next door, except they drink and argue and he leaves for a while, then returns, caution must be had in approaching the woman if she is alone and also if you are alone @lentz.

The fact she came over and offered a beer [which you declined] could be that either it was a 'peace offering' of sorts and/or that she may have been 'reaching out' to you as someone to talk to. That of course could be totally presumptuous BUT nevertheless, caution ought to be had.

Do you have wife or another family member you can have with you on a visit?

It maybe best to do as Brother Hekuran @Hekuran suggests only when both neighbours are home.

please beware of having one to one with the woman. The enemy is crafty and none are so good as to be immune to temptation. Remember David? Also, jealousy of man [more-so if drunken] can get very ugly. Consider King Saul, perhaps?
Add to that, that one can be accused of something and do time. It has happened since way back, if you remember Potiphar's wife?

All the time, never underrate the power of God to save. Pray and do, giving thanks.


Bless you ....><>
 
Greetings once more,

without knowing more detail of the situation between the couple next door, except they drink and argue and he leaves for a while, then returns, caution must be had in approaching the woman if she is alone and also if you are alone @lentz.

The fact she came over and offered a beer [which you declined] could be that either it was a 'peace offering' of sorts and/or that she may have been 'reaching out' to you as someone to talk to. That of course could be totally presumptuous BUT nevertheless, caution ought to be had.

Do you have wife or another family member you can have with you on a visit?

It maybe best to do as Brother Hekuran @Hekuran suggests only when both neighbours are home.

please beware of having one to one with the woman. The enemy is crafty and none are so good as to be immune to temptation. Remember David? Also, jealousy of man [more-so if drunken] can get very ugly. Consider King Saul, perhaps?
Add to that, that one can be accused of something and do time. It has happened since way back, if you remember Potiphar's wife?

All the time, never underrate the power of God to save. Pray and do, giving thanks.


Bless you ....><>
Thank you very much brother. I have decided to just wait and let the Lord open a door. Waving if they are outside when going to mailbox. I am living alone. Kids all moved out. And i lost my wife to an illness years ago(i got sick of her and left) I didnt talk to my wife wife the entire last 6 years we were together. I didnt want to interrupt her.
 
I didnt know where to post this. The moderator can move if wishes.

But i am struggling inwardly about how to help my nieghbors.
I dont know much about them,other than they argue and fight constantly in the front yard. Sometimes its physical,but always vulgar cursings. They both drink. The woman runs him off every other day,then he's back. I do not know if they are married,there are two beautiful little girls.
I am ashamed i dont know them better. That is my fault. The woman came to visit one day as i was sitting in the yard. She brought me a beer,i turned it down and she didnt stay any longer.
But my heart hurts for them. But i wont just go and start spouting bible. And i know poking ones nose in othets domestic problems can be dangerous. They will both turn on you.
I have asked God to open a door,but perhaps he is wanting ME to move.
How would you who are more spiritual handle this?
All help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Have ya invited them for a cup of coffee in the morning or like got some snacks n just ask if you can give them to the children ya gotta watch for the door to open.. me imma coffee n tea person... All u can do is ask all's the can do is say no...
I hadda neighbor her name was Terry most days her n her hubby would start drinking at 8 am with beer n by 9 that 100 proof cheap vodka.. id catch her before she got to bad n sit n drink coffee or a pop n we just talk n the word would just come up.. some how some way.. had another I can't remember her name but she had 3 little ones she was bad addicted to meth also was a paranoid very paranoid didn't trust many but it got to the point where she trusted me enough to allow me to help her cause the children most days wouldn't have eaten or needed a place to sleep while she was well doing what she was doing.. they come over n we would paint n eat n play uno.. listen to music play video games.

There's many ways to help... Just gotta watchful n see when n how...

Twistie :broken_heart:
 
Have ya invited them for a cup of coffee in the morning or like got some snacks n just ask if you can give them to the children ya gotta watch for the door to open.. me imma coffee n tea person... All u can do is ask all's the can do is say no...
I hadda neighbor her name was Terry most days her n her hubby would start drinking at 8 am with beer n by 9 that 100 proof cheap vodka.. id catch her before she got to bad n sit n drink coffee or a pop n we just talk n the word would just come up.. some how some way.. had another I can't remember her name but she had 3 little ones she was bad addicted to meth also was a paranoid very paranoid didn't trust many but it got to the point where she trusted me enough to allow me to help her cause the children most days wouldn't have eaten or needed a place to sleep while she was well doing what she was doing.. they come over n we would paint n eat n play uno.. listen to music play video games.

There's many ways to help... Just gotta watchful n see when n how...

Twistie :broken_heart:

I started to out one day and say hi to the girls. They were next door playing in outhers yard with dog. But the days we live in,i wouldnt want to be mistaken for a pedophile. I will just wait. Something will come up.
 
I started to out one day and say hi to the girls. They were next door playing in outhers yard with dog. But the days we live in,i wouldnt want to be mistaken for a pedophile. I will just wait. Something will come up.
Ya I get that... There some real wicked peep in the world those who like to stir trouble n point fingers for the kindness one trys n shows.

Twistie :pensive:
 
I didnt know where to post this. The moderator can move if wishes.

But i am struggling inwardly about how to help my nieghbors.
I dont know much about them,other than they argue and fight constantly in the front yard. Sometimes its physical,but always vulgar cursings. They both drink. The woman runs him off every other day,then he's back. I do not know if they are married,there are two beautiful little girls.
I am ashamed i dont know them better. That is my fault. The woman came to visit one day as i was sitting in the yard. She brought me a beer,i turned it down and she didnt stay any longer.
But my heart hurts for them. But i wont just go and start spouting bible. And i know poking ones nose in othets domestic problems can be dangerous. They will both turn on you.
I have asked God to open a door,but perhaps he is wanting ME to move.
How would you who are more spiritual handle this?
All help will be appreciated.
Thanks

I think its his desire we keep on moving clothed with the armor of God . And not hide out in a cave like Elijah who was led by the stilling voice of peace ."Come out there is more work for you the preaching of the word"

I would think in one sense she opened the door to friendship . Perhaps she heard Christ knocking and was looking for a cold drink (I am not promoting the abuse of wine ). a little is good for the stomach (soul)

Remember we can preach as apostles messengers sent by a desire of God. . but God must cause the increase . Jesus the Carpenter can make us fishers of men if we follow what he followed the good will of the Father that worked in him .

1 Corinthians 3:4-8 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
 
I didnt know where to post this. The moderator can move if wishes.

But i am struggling inwardly about how to help my nieghbors.
I dont know much about them,other than they argue and fight constantly in the front yard. Sometimes its physical,but always vulgar cursings. They both drink. The woman runs him off every other day,then he's back. I do not know if they are married,there are two beautiful little girls.
I am ashamed i dont know them better. That is my fault. The woman came to visit one day as i was sitting in the yard. She brought me a beer,i turned it down and she didnt stay any longer.
But my heart hurts for them. But i wont just go and start spouting bible. And i know poking ones nose in othets domestic problems can be dangerous. They will both turn on you.
I have asked God to open a door,but perhaps he is wanting ME to move.
How would you who are more spiritual handle this?
All help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Hello @lentz,

I think you are doing the right thing in deciding to wait on the Lord in regard to this. Yet your description of daily life next door is giving me food for thought. It seems that the Mother of the two little girls has the ascendency in the relationship, if it is he that is being 'run off' and returning. The fact that he returns indicates a strength of feeling for the wife and children, doesn't it? No man would willingly be humiliated in front of his children like that, and return without having a powerful reason for doing so.

I wonder also if the offer of a beer from her, to you, an older man, would indicate the need of a Father figure, someone to talk to. Yet it is the man that you would need to approach rather than the woman. He must need his sense of place, as a man in the home, established and respected, and put on a visible footing. In order to gain some self respect, and be able to see the needs of his wife and children in the right perspective.

Perhaps there is a drug or alcohol dependency there, causing financial pressures, or a loss of job. All of these pressures would create the atmosphere that could result in argument and violent outbursts, wouldn't they?

If you were to approach anyone though, I think it must be the man, as the head of his household, giving him the respect due to such a position, and placing the responsibility for his wife and children firmly in his own lap, by simply making that approach via him, and not through his partner.

These are just my thoughts, I do not want to influence you in any way. Just living in thankfulness and praise, and giving glory to God in your manner of life and conversation will help. May God's will for you, in relation to your neighbours be done, for His Name and Glory's sake.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
Chris
 
I didnt know where to post this. The moderator can move if wishes.

But i am struggling inwardly about how to help my nieghbors.
I dont know much about them,other than they argue and fight constantly in the front yard. Sometimes its physical,but always vulgar cursings. They both drink. The woman runs him off every other day,then he's back. I do not know if they are married,there are two beautiful little girls.
I am ashamed i dont know them better. That is my fault. The woman came to visit one day as i was sitting in the yard. She brought me a beer,i turned it down and she didnt stay any longer.
But my heart hurts for them. But i wont just go and start spouting bible. And i know poking ones nose in othets domestic problems can be dangerous. They will both turn on you.
I have asked God to open a door,but perhaps he is wanting ME to move.
How would you who are more spiritual handle this?
All help will be appreciated.
Thanks

Jesus would not go and teach the a-z of the bible either. Jonah, never went to Nineveh and told them to keep the Sabath holy or tithe ten percent of their income.

Jesus, Jonah and all of us Christians, need to convey one simple message to the 'truly' unsaved and lost.

This message is so simple, you should definitely be able to fit it into any conversation.

Luke 5:32 I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Praying that God strengthens you and opens a door.
 
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