Brother Paul
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The scriptures are very clear over and over that there is only ONE GOD, so I ask all of you...can (did) God ever die? What does eternal mean? If God died (even for a short time) what might happen?
Can the one and only Eternal YHVH die?
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Brother Paul
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Well Lutherans and Roman Catholics are taught that God died on the cross so I was wondering what others thought or were taught....
I agree with you...I beliebve it would be a contradiction of terms in the least. How can He who is everlasting life die?
Brad Huber
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You err in that Jesus was God in Spirit that entered a human body. Just because the body died for a short time, doesnt mean His Spirit, His true self ever died. We are spirits inhabiting bodies, not bodies that change into spirits at some time.
Dave L
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Jesus' human body and soul died on the cross and remained buried for 3 days and 3 nights. His Person is God the Trinity who speaks in the second person of the eternal Son. The universe and all it contains would also die. God causes it to exist.
Brother Paul
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God the Son never ceased being fully God...check out the reformed position (though I know that different theologies see this differently Sproul present s the historic non-Roman Catholic position)..."We believe that Jesus Christ was God incarnate. We also believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross. If we say that God died on the cross, and if by that we mean that the divine nature perished, we have stepped over the edge into serious heresy. In fact, two such heresies related to this problem arose in the early centuries of the church: theopassianism and patripassianism. The first of these, theopassianism, teaches that God Himself suffered death on the cross. Patripassianism indicates that the Father suffered vicariously through the suffering of His Son. Both of these heresies were roundly rejected by the church for the very reason that they categorically deny the very character and nature of God, including His immutability. There is no change in the substantive nature or character of God at any time.
God not only created the universe, He sustains it by the very power of His being. As Paul said, “In Him we live and move and have our being” (Acts 17:28). If the being of God ceased for one second, the universe would disappear. It would pass out of existence, because nothing can exist apart from the sustaining power of God. If God dies, everything dies with Him. Obviously, then, God could not have perished on the cross.
Some say, “It was the second person of the Trinity Who died.” That would be a mutation within the very being of God, because when we look at the Trinity we say that the three are one in essence, and that though there are personal distinctions among the persons of the Godhead, those distinctions are not essential in the sense that they are differences in being. Death is something that would involve a change in one’s being.
We should shrink in horror from the idea that God actually died on the cross. The atonement was made by the human nature of Christ. Somehow people tend to think that this lessens the dignity or the value of the substitutionary act, as if we were somehow implicitly denying the deity of Christ. God forbid. It’s the God-man Who dies, but death is something that is experienced only by the human nature, because the divine nature isn’t capable of experiencing death."
This excerpt is taken from The Truth of the Cross by R.C. Sproul.
DieAmartyr
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The Great I AM is the One who was, who Is and who is yet to come. The Alpha and the Omega. The First and the Last. The King of Kings and the Lord of Lord's. Does the Universe have a beginning and an end? God is Supernatural. He is not to be questioned or put to the test. The Spirit world is forever and ever in a world without time. It is everlasting existence. Do not be limited in your thinking by your human brain.
Brother Paul
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Amen