Disciple or Follower?

[Richard Aberdeen]

Greek "mathetai"; means "student", "follower". It has no special religious connotation or significance, other than that to follow Jesus is both a significant and important choice. The word in Greek can be used in reference to a follower of anybody, from Karl Marx and Charles Darwin, to Ayn Rand and Donald Trump to any Tom, Harry or Jane on the web (who would be most likely no worse of a choice to follow).

When the New Testament uses the word 'disciple", it is simply referring to the followers of Jesus and thus, the word should be correctly translated into English as "follower" or "student/follower". Translating or speaking otherwise implies an orthodox religious context where none is likely intended.

The Bible is clear that blessed are those "who" do the teaching of Jesus. It is not enough to just believe or to just be a student. One must do what Jesus says to be a follower of Jesus: "Faith without works is dead." Thus, it is fair to say that "follower" is the best English translation for the Greek "mathetai", rather than just student.

In Search of the Real Jesus
www.FreedomTracks.com/revolution.html

 

[Twistie]

“If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.”

Submit yourself for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, or to governors as sent by Him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right. For this is the will of God, that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men… Honor all people, love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king.

I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty."

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Faith without works is dead yep yep

 

[Twistie]

Some follow the Living God
Some follow the God of Chaos

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[Bill]

Greek "mathetai"; means "student", "follower". It has no special religious connotation or significance, other than that to follow Jesus is both a significant and important choice. The word in Greek can be used in reference to a follower of anybody, from Karl Marx and Charles Darwin, to Ayn Rand and Donald Trump to any Tom, Harry or Jane on the web (who would be most likely no worse of a choice to follow).

When the New Testament uses the word 'disciple", it is simply referring to the followers of Jesus and thus, the word should be correctly translated into English as "follower" or "student/follower". Translating or speaking otherwise implies an orthodox religious context where none is likely intended.

The Bible is clear that blessed are those "who" do the teaching of Jesus. It is not enough to just believe or to just be a student. One must do what Jesus says to be a follower of Jesus: "Faith without works is dead." Thus, it is fair to say that "follower" is the best English translation for the Greek "mathetai", rather than just student.

In Search of the Real Jesus
www.FreedomTracks.com/revolution.html

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

You ever have a argument with a teenager. I'm just curious because this is exactly what it feels like. Teenagers always feel like they know everything when they don't know anything.

I'm not exactly saying that you don't know anything it's just that some of the arguments are just so ridiculous it isn't funny

It's kind of like trying to compare the word potato to potato. The one where you say it is with the American A, the other way you say it is what the English a. So which is the correct way to say it?

It's also kind of like comparing butter to margarine. Well you get my point hopefully.

 

[Richard Aberdeen]

“If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.”

Submit yourself for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, or to governors as sent by Him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right. For this is the will of God, that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men… Honor all people, love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king.

I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty."

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Faith without works is dead yep yep

Why do you use 16th Century Middle English words instead of speaking clearly in modern English? Are you trying to deceive the common people?

 

[Twistie]

Why do you use 16th Century Middle English words instead of speaking clearly in modern English? Are you trying to deceive the common people?

Ya i get ya need to deflect thats what peep do these days deflect cry victim hate consequences due to their choices their actions ya one of many that have been programmed n are very comfortable with it .

Personally i dont understand it..but its written so i just go with the flow..

Anywho good luck with that monkey on your back that one seems to stay where he lands.. unless ya humble ya self turn from your wicked and evil ways and allow Him to change ya people seem to think its an oversight process and its all flowers n daisy but it is what it is

I just do as the Lord instructs lol ya can name call get mad get ya panties in a bunch but it is not me you have a problem with lol frfr honestly its not but you wouldn't know because you know nothing about my walk but i can see what your spirit is producing..Lords children aint blind we see and hear very well..

Anywho
Tryl

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[Bill]

Why do you use 16th Century Middle English words instead of speaking clearly in modern English? Are you trying to deceive the common people?

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

I take it that my meaning went clean over your head.

It had to do with the difference between disciple and follower.

I think the only bigger difference between the two words would be that the word disciple is more dedicated then the word follower represents.