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Evolution or Creationism?

What Do You Believe?

  • Creationism

    Votes: 32 88.9%
  • Evolution

    Votes: 4 11.1%

  • Total voters
    36
What to choose? Choices, always choices.

I think the THEORY of Evolution is monkey business.

There not making a monkey out of me!

This theory is an insult to intelligent people.

It provides no proof for the origin of man, mere speculation.

Show me the transitional species. I demand to see the intermediate species between monkey and man. I demand to see the proof that man has evolved inumerable times to reach the present.

Show me the fossil evidence of a species changing from one species to another. All the different species in between. I want to see this evidence.

This evidence does not exist in the fossil record!

Why is the theory still a theory after all this time?

It does not take the sharpest knife in the draw to see the flaw in the theory of evilution (it is a fortunate person who can spell).

God provided the only evidence I have ever seen that was not theoretical. Jesus Christ. The beginning and the end.
How can anyone argue with revelation!
 
You decide

I've encountered a person where he tells of a debate about evolution or creationism. Each one don't budge in their belief until the person who believes creationism said, "Okay, you believe that you came from monkeys and I'll believe God I came from God". Then, they separated ways.

Me. I believe God created me and I came from Him. You?
 
Who was it?

Who was the person who voted for Evilution. I know your out there!
C'mon own up, and explain yourself. That was actually the funniest thing I have seen so far. A Christian web site, creationist. You had to do it, there's always one in the crowd.

Its people like you, that add the color to life. Those small abnormal acts, the unexpected. Very funny.
 
I have to believe there is someone/something greater than myself. Jesus is an historical figure. Logic gives an example of His eminence. Therefore it is logic to believe to believe in Jesus.
 
None of the scientific evidence points to creationism. A large body of it points to evolution. It is the explanation that is most consistent with the facts.

A reading of the Bible shows that it is not in the least bit concerned with this kind of scientific debate. If it were, the creation accounts would be phrased in scientific language, not in poetic form.

Belief in evolution does not mean that we have to abandon our trust in a creator God who sustains all things.
 
None of the scientific evidence points to creationism. A large body of it points to evolution. It is the explanation that is most consistent with the facts.

A reading of the Bible shows that it is not in the least bit concerned with this kind of scientific debate. If it were, the creation accounts would be phrased in scientific language, not in poetic form.

Belief in evolution does not mean that we have to abandon our trust in a creator God who sustains all things.
You need to do some research about creationism ... the "evidence" for evolution is always either false (junk DNA, positive mutations etc.), not really evidence for anything (natural selection, genetic variation etc.) or evidence for creation interpreted in a materialistic way (sedimentary layers, fossils etc.). I trust the Bible more than I trust scientists, and I trust Bible-believing scientists more than I trust secularized scientists.

Genesis is not written in poetic form, it's written in historical form. It should be read literally. The theory of evolution is in conflict with the Bible because the Bible says that the last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. It also says that there was no death before man sinned. According to the theory of evolution, on the other hand, death and suffering was necessary to create man.

As I said in the beginning of this post, do some research instead of just listening to what the world says ...
 
Well that is fair enough.

If you insist that the biblical account is literal and trust that interpretation more than science, then the natural conclusion is that the world was created literally in six days by the power of God's word alone.

But you ought to be honest and admit that this is an ascientific approach. Scientific inquiry aims to examine evidence objectively, and seeks to explain the material world in terms of cause and effect. The creationist approach that you are advocating puts the truth of the Bible first, then gathers evidence in the light of that truth.
 
Well that is fair enough.

If you insist that the biblical account is literal and trust that interpretation more than science, then the natural conclusion is that the world was created literally in six days by the power of God's word alone.

But you ought to be honest and admit that this is an ascientific approach. Scientific inquiry aims to examine evidence objectively, and seeks to explain the material world in terms of cause and effect. The creationist approach that you are advocating puts the truth of the Bible first, then gathers evidence in the light of that truth.
I've got an article that you should read:
‘It’s not science

by Don Batten
Published: 28 February 2002 (GMT+10)

Anti-creationists, such as atheists by definition, commonly object that creation is religion and evolution is science. To defend this claim they will cite a list of criteria that define a ‘good scientific theory’. A common criterion is that the bulk of modern day practising scientists must accept it as valid science. Another criterion defining science is the ability of a theory to make predictions that can be tested. Evolutionists commonly claim that evolution makes many predictions that have been found to be correct. They will cite something like antibiotic resistance in bacteria as some sort of ‘prediction’ of evolution, whereas they question the value of the creationist model in making predictions. Since, they say, creation fails their definition of ‘science’, it is therefore ‘religion’, and (by implication) it can simply be ignored.

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Evolutionary teachers often use equivocation to indoctrinate unsuspecting students with the general theory of evolution (GTE).

Response


Many attempts to define ‘science’ are circular. The point that a theory must be acceptable to contemporary scientists to be acceptable, basically defines science as ‘what scientists do’! In fact, under this definition, economic theories would be acceptable scientific theories, if ‘contemporary scientists’ accepted them as such.

In many cases, these so-called definitions of science are blatantly self-serving and contradictory. A number of evolutionary propagandists have claimed that creation is not scientific because it is supposedly untestable. But in the same paragraph they claim, ‘scientists have carefully examined the claims of creation science, and found that ideas such as the young Earth and global Flood are incompatible with the evidence.’ But obviously creation cannot have been examined (tested!) and found to be false if it’s ‘untestable’.

The definition of ‘science’ has haunted philosophers of science in the 20th century. The earlier approach of Bacon, who is considered the founder of the scientific method, was pretty straightforward:

observation → induction → hypothesis → test hypothesis by experiment → proof/disproof → knowledge.

Of course this, and the whole approach to modern science, depends on two major assumptions: causality and induction. The philosopher Hume made it clear that these are believed by ‘blind faith’ (Bertrand Russell’s words). Kant and Whitehead claimed to have solved the problem, but Russell recognized that Hume was right. Actually, these assumptions arose from faith in the Creator-God of the Bible, as historians of science like Loren Eiseley have recognized. Many scientists are so philosophically and theologically ignorant that they don’t even realize that they have these (and other) metaphysical assumptions. Being like a frog in the warming water, many do not even notice that there are philosophical assumptions at the root of much that passes as ‘science’. It’s part of their own worldview, so they don’t even notice. We at CMI are ‘up front’ about our acceptance of revelation (the Bible). Unlike many atheists, we recognize that a philosophy of life does not come from the data, but rather the philosophy is brought to the data and used in interpreting it.

A philosophy of life does not come from the data, but rather the philosophy is brought to the data and used in interpreting it.
Perceptions and bias

The important question is not ‘Is it science?’ We can just define ‘science’ to exclude everything that we don’t like, as evolutionists do today. Today, science is equated with naturalism: only materialistic notions can be entertained, no matter what the evidence. The prominent evolutionist Professor Richard Lewontin said:
‘We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfil many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.’​
Now that’s open-minded isn’t it? Isn’t ‘science’ about following the evidence wherever it may lead? This is where the religion (in the broadest sense) of the scientist puts the blinkers on. Our individual worldviews bias our perceptions. The atheist paleontologist, Stephen Jay Gould, made the following candid observation:
‘Our ways of learning about the world are strongly influenced by the social preconceptions and biased modes of thinking that each scientist must apply to any problem. The stereotype of a fully rational and objective “scientific method”, with individual scientists as logical (and interchangeable) robots is self-serving mythology.’​
So the fundamentally important question is, ‘which worldview (bias) is correct?’, because this will determine the correctness of the conclusions from the data.

Science a creationist invention

Of course the founders of modern science were not materialists (Sir Isaac Newton, widely considered the greatest scientist ever, is a prime example) and they did not see their science as somehow excluding a creator, or even making the Creator redundant. This recent notion has been smuggled into science by materialists.
Michael Ruse, the Canadian philosopher of science also made the strong point that the issue is not whether evolution is science and creation is religion, because such a distinction is not really valid. The issue is one of ‘coherency of truth’. In other words, there is no logically valid way that the materialist can define evolution as ‘science’ and creation as ‘religion’, so that he/she can ignore the issue of creation.

There is no logically valid way that the materialist can define evolution as ‘science’ and creation as ‘religion’, so that he/she can ignore the issue of creation.
A valid distinction

However, we can make a valid distinction between different types of science: the distinction between origins science and operational science. Operational science involves discovering how things operate in today’s Creation—repeatable and observable phenomena in the present. This is the science of Newton. However, origins science deals with the origin of things in the past—unique, unrepeatable, unobservable events. There is a fundamental difference between how the two work. Operational science involves experimentation in the here and now. Origins science deals with how something came into existence in the past and so is not open to experimental verification / observation (unless someone invents a ‘time machine’ to travel back into the past to observe). Studying how an organism operates (DNA, mutations, reproduction, natural selection etc.) does not tell us how it came into existence in the first place.

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Operational science is quite different to origins or historical science; you can't do experiments on the past and interpretations of the data are strongly driven by the world-view of the scientist.

Of course it suits materialists to confuse operational and origins science, although I’m sure with most the confusion arises out of ignorance. Tertiary (college / university) courses in science mostly don’t teach the philosophy of science and certainly make no distinction between experimental / operational and historical / origins sciences. Organometallic chemist Dr Stephen Grocott, although having been through at least seven years of university training, later remarked:
‘Though I’d been working as a scientist for 10 years, I really only learnt what science was through [your ministry]. Some of the things people call “science” are really outside the realms of science; they’re not observable, testable, repeatable. The areas of conflict are beliefs about the past, not open to experimental testing.​
Both evolution and creation fall into the category of origins science. Both are driven by philosophical considerations. The same data (observations in the present) are available to everyone, but different interpretations (stories) are devised to explain what happened in the past.

The inclusion of historical science, without distinction, as science, has undoubtedly contributed to the modern confusion over defining science. This also explains the statement by Gould (above), who, as a paleontologist, would like to see no distinction between his own historical science and experimental science. Gould rightly sees the paramount importance of presuppositions in his own ‘science’ and assumes that it applies equally to all science. Not so.

Do you believe in hot water?

Creationists have absolutely no problem with operational science, because the evidence drives operational science. It does not matter if you are a Christian, a Moslem, a Hindu, or an Atheist, pure water still boils at 100°C at sea level. However, the true Hindu might still think it is all an illusion, and some atheists embracing postmodernism espouse that ‘truth’ is an illusion. However, origins science is driven by philosophy. One’s belief system is fundamental to what stories you accept as plausible. Now if the majority of practitioners of origins / historical science have the wrong belief system (materialism), then the stories they find acceptable will also be wrong. So a majority vote of ‘contemporary scientists’ is hardly a good way to determine the validity of the respective stories. And origins science, or historical science, is essentially an exercise in story telling—Lewontin alluded to this story telling in the quote above.

Define terms consistently!

It also suits materialists to shift the definition of evolution to suit the argument. Let’s be clear that we are discussing the ‘General Theory of Evolution’ (GTE), which was defined by the evolutionist Kerkut as ‘the theory that all the living forms in the world have arisen from a single source which itself came from an inorganic form.’ Many, perhaps inadvertently, perform this switching definitions trick in alluding to mutations in bacteria as corroborating ‘evolution’. This has little to do with the belief that hydrogen changed into humans over billions of years. The key difference is that the GTE requires not just change, but change that increases the information content of the biosphere.

Predictions or ‘postdictions’?

Many evolutionists proffer mutations and antibiotic resistance in bacteria (operational science) as being some sort of prediction of evolution (origins science). In fact, genetics (operational science) was an embarrassment to evolution, which is probably the major reason that Mendel’s pioneering genetics research went unrecognized for so many years (Mendel’s discovery of discrete genes did not fit Darwin’s idea of continuous unlimited variation). When mutations were discovered, these were seen as a way of reconciling Darwinism with the observations of operational science—hence the neo-Darwinian synthesis of Mayr, Haldane, Fisher, etc.

So, Darwinism never predicted anything, it was modified to accommodate the observations. In fact, because Darwinism is so malleable as to accommodate almost any conceivable observation, science philosopher Karl Popper proclaimed that it was not falsifiable, and therefore not a proper scientific theory in that sense.

What about the predictions of evolution vs creation? The track record of evolution is pretty dismal. On the other hand, modern science rides on the achievements of past creationists. For a clear example of modern-day scientific predictions based on a creationist model.
Popper’s notion that evolution is not a falsifiable scientific theory is underlined by the many ‘predictions’ of evolutionary theory that have been found to be incompatible with observations; and yet evolution reigns. For example, there is the profound absence of the many millions of transitional fossils that should exist if evolution were true. The very pattern in the fossil record flatly contradicts evolutionary notions of what it should be like. The evolutionist Gould has written at length on this conundrum.

Contrary to evolutionists’ expectations, none of the cases of antibiotic resistance, insecticide resistance, etc. that have been studied at a biochemical level (i.e. operational science) have involved de novo origin of new complex genetic information (see the book Not By Chance (above right). In fact, evolution never ‘predicted’ antibiotic resistance, because historically it took the medical field by surprise.

Contrary to evolutionists’ expectations, breeding experiments reach limits; change is not unlimited. This matches exactly what we would expect from Genesis 1, where it says that God created organisms to reproduce true to their different kinds.

Evolutionists expected that, given the right conditions, a living cell could make itself (abiogenesis); creationists said this was impossible. Operational science has destroyed this evolutionary notion; so much so that many evolutionists now want to leave the origin of life out of the debate. Many propagandists claim that evolution does not include this, although the theories of abiogenesis are usually called ‘chemical evolution’.

Because Darwinism is so malleable as to accommodate almost any conceivable observation, science philosopher Karl Popper proclaimed that it was not falsifiable, and therefore not a proper scientific theory in that sense.
Falsified but not abandoned

So, why do evolutionists persist with their spurious theory? For many it’s because they have never heard anything else. For avowed materialists it’s the ‘only game in town’—the only materialistic story available to explain how everything came to be; the materialist’s creation myth. It’s a bit like the proverbial ostrich putting its head in the sand, thinking that all that exists is what it can see under the sand. The ostrich’s worldview excludes everything that it does not find convenient. In the darkness of the sand, all unacceptable facts cease to exist.

Light in the darkness!

Jesus Christ came as ‘the light of the world’ (John 8:12), when the Second Person of the Trinity took on human nature. He came to shed the light of God in dark places. The greatest darkness is to live without God; to live as if you are a cosmic accident, just ‘re-arranged pond-scum’, as one evolutionist put it. Sadly, many are being duped into thinking that way and we are seeing the horrendous consequences in escalating youth suicide, drug problems, family break-up, violence, etc. How much we need the light of Jesus to shine! God will hold each one of us accountable—all of us deserve His condemnation. But the Bible says that He has provided a way of escape through Jesus Christ for all that turn to God, humbly admitting our need of forgiveness.
 
Yes, it would be very difficult for the theory of evolution to pass Popper's test. It is not a strong theory in this respect.

How could a scientist apply Popper's test to a creation theory?
 
Further

When you think about the Theory of Evolution. Transitional species must exist. Otherwise, there is no evolution in any form of one species to another. Whithin the fossil record, there are no transitional species to date. Transitional species should be an abundant component of the fossil record.

It is safe to assume that in the future no transitional species will be discovered. Conclusion, Evolution of one species to another species has not occurred. This is undeniable, this is what the lack of evidence proves.

If you think about the implications. What choice does science have.

Many people are not aware of this problem. Most believe that evolution is a fact of science. It is not. It is a theory in deep trouble.

Nature documentaries always mention evolution. That's why everyone has this opinion. They have been conditioned into this view. Why do these nature documentaries always mention evolution. It is science that's why.

Rest in Christ, the only revelation that does really explain it all.
 
Probability.

Absolute proof in science is almost non-existent.

Look at this example.

Penicillin for argument sake, was a tremendous breakthrough achieved by medical research. It kills bacteria. But some people are allergic to penicillin, it can kill them. It has a probability of aiding in a cure.

Some have argued that penicilian should not be used unless absolutely necessary. If a plague hits mankind Penicillian may be
our only hope. Using it unnecessarily may reduce its capacity.

In science, there are probabilties involved in all of science.

Probabilities regarding earthquakes. Geologists can never accurately predict earthquakes. Christchurch was recently demolished by an earthquake. Seismic experts were asked whether another earthquake
would hit Christchurch. They said there was a 4% chance, in the next few weeks, a false sense of security. Another did hit Christchurch a week later, this was the big one.

How did the seismic scientist explain themselves. They said there was a fault under Christchurch that they did not know about.

See the probability they supplied, 4%. Anyone who listened to them paid the price.

If Evolution were found to be true, science could only ever supply a probabilty to this. Say, 99%. Science can never be Absolute Truth.

Weather is all probabilities, just look at the forecasts.

If all knowledge past, present and future was acquired.

Even then questions arise as to what type of knowledge was acquired. What conclusions are possible. On and on the debate would rage.

Science's speculations are essentially a philosphy. That's the truth.

It only deals in probabilities at its core. Only ever can.

Where the Bible is concerned, this is revelation at its core.
It does not rely on the puny, fickle, Darwinian monkey mind.

God has revealed Jesus Christ through revelation. Now that's the absolute truth.
 
Evolution has just too many gaps and flaws for me to believe it is true. This world is way too fine-tuned for there not to be an intelligent designer
 
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Evolution is nonsense - its the sayings of satan.

(With all due respect) Then they say that my God is also a monkey. Because we are made in His image and likeness.

I do so pray, that whoever believes in Evolution will repent and turn to God, our loving Father. I pray that their eyes and ears will be opened to the truth. In Jesus Name I pray, Amen.
 
The Lord proved to me that he was not only real, but that he knows best, many years ago. He said in his word that he created the world in six days, so the world was created in six days.

Unfortunately, The theory of evolution has too many loopholes to be acute, and too much of the evidence for evolution has been either proven wrong or a hoax, for the new evidence of the theory to be taking without a supernova of salt. (A ploy on the grain of salt concept.)
 
I'm a young earth creationist myself. There is a overall idea floating around out there that science and the Bible must be mutally exclusive. I say not so. In fact, science and the Bible actually compliment each other more than most people know.
 
Things do evolve in a way and there is proof of that but we have cunning people at work in all this dealing, trying to make people think they are only a another nothing.
So they are at pains to push this ideology, due to there criminal motives. it's another attack on God by the ego driven madness of Sinful extreme..
They start with all this brainwashing at school. as it develops ones mind to reject any perception or notion of God at work and pushes that man is the master. but in truth people who push this are only making a monkey out of themselves. they are just like drug pushers and the evidence of there destructive influence is there for all to see.
 
Things do evolve in a way and there is proof of that but we have cunning people at work in all this dealing, trying to make people think they are only a another nothing.
So they are at pains to push this ideology, due to there criminal motives. it's another attack on God by the ego driven madness of Sinful extreme..
They start with all this brainwashing at school. as it develops ones mind to reject any perception or notion of God at work and pushes that man is the master. but in truth people who push this are only making a monkey out of themselves. they are just like drug pushers and the evidence of there destructive influence is there for all to see.

Species do adapt and change in minimal ways, like a moth turning darker to blend in with the coal smoke stained trees that has occurred back in the east. But it was still the exact same moth and still would produce lighter colored offspring if placed back in an unpolluted enviroment. This is termed horizontal evolution and is simply adaption. But no species ever changes or mutates to another species in "vertical evolution" such as what the scientists claim.

There has never been one shred of evidence produced to prove vertical evolution, not one in the millions of years of the fossil record. It is just a theory, more of a 'religion' actually. Evolution is a 'blind faith' of science, with no empiracal evidence.

Peace
 
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Species do adapt and change in minimal ways, like a moth turning darker to blend in with the coal smoke stained trees that has occurred back in the east. But it was still the exact same moth and still would produce lighter colored offspring if placed back in an unpolluted enviroment. This is termed horizontal evolution and is simply adaption. But no species ever changes or mutates to another species in "vertical evolution" such as what the scientists claim.

There has never been one shred of evidence produced to prove vertical evolution, not one in the millions of years of the fossil record. It is just a theory, more of a 'religion' actually. Evolution is a 'blind faith' of science, with no empiracal evidence.

Peace

I do agree with you.

If we look into the why do people go about pushing all this evolving rubbish, i think we see Satan in the detail. like as in time, when the time is right, they will just come out and say that there is lesser evolved humans about etc etc. as i have seen the madness proposed on other forums with the younger generations gobbledygook. like believing they themselves are more evolved then their parents. and this is the word they use and are convinced of it. our universities must be pushing this trash.

I said to them that man has not evolved at all and if one was to go back in a time travel and bring one who lived 4000 years ago and brought him up from a baby he would be not inferior to anyone living now.
I also had a hard time with them understanding the difference between discrimination and prejudice. i think due to the influence of Political correctness rammed into there soft heads. they think you can just brush such things aside as if to be just so shallow and that to lack depth in the subject is a good thing. or do they just have a concept in blind faith to guide them, like so many others embrace.
 
Some of the OP link contents are missing on my view, so I can't reply except to note the use of Luke 11:50-51. Jesus also showed a creationist view in Mark 10:6; 13:19, John 5:45-47, all linked to words of Moses in Exodus 20:11, which Jesus used to pin the Pharisees down for not believing Him.

I found a young lady that last known was to attend an AOG seminary 10 years ago, so I assumed she had graduated and would be in a ministry somewhere. Instead, she is a microbiologist working for a pharmaceutical, and an atheist now. In seminary and her state university she was humiliated many times over believing in the Bible account of creation. Fellow students and professors all made fun of her for ignoring "Science" and continuing to believe in the Jesus religion or any religion. If Jesus was divine or had any real connections to an all-knowing god, he would have surely known Moses presented a foolish basis for his religion, relatively soon to be debunked by modern scientists. But, Jesus, Son of God, believed Moses, who wrote Genesis, calling his writings the word of God. So did Paul, a well educated man, and the other apostles, and many brilliant people since then.

I had but moments in the local bisque to try to say some key point, but nothing got her attention. I offered to pay for her lunch, but she ordered hers to take out, apparently because of me and my questions. I managed to name some cosmologists, geophysicists, and other scientists who support the Bible account of creation, but she is done with all that. "Intelligent people don't waste time on that nonsense. Leave me alone."

Since then the past ten years have proved very alarming to me, that many of the college-bound youth I knew are not Christians now due to being embarrassed over this issue. Pat Robertson is in the news again with a challenge against creation happening in a biblical time-frame, saying on his tv show "“If you fight science, you are going to lose your children, and I believe in telling them the way it was,” Robertson concluded." Parents are not usually adept at discussing the issue, and they are in fact losing their children over lack of knowledge. If they don't fight false science, they will lose them to the false science which predominates the classrooms. Not equipping the children to deal with this major challenge now backed by Robertson leaves them prey to the "Children of the Devil".

Robertson cited "radiocarbon dating" concerning dinosaurs, proving he isn't qualified to comment. C14 dating can only possibly have accuracy 50k years back, while dinosaurs are claimed by evolutionists to date to the Triassic Period, many millions of years ago, well beyond the reach of radiocarbon dating. In addition, dinosaur fossils have been found bearing well preserved cardiovascular structures providing DNA, defying the notion of modern concepts of fossils being automatically dated in terms of millions of years. How could organic cells remain intact over such long periods? Dating them more than 10,000 years is now becoming improbable, while evolutionists retain control of our education system, denying any evidence against their dating schemes. Scientists who submit such evidence contrary to "evolution" are "put on ice". It's very hazardous to defy academia, those gray haired liberal silver pony-tailed professors whose books on evolution are not yet sold out.

So. Why bother? Another generation of children is hearing the lie, and they too will face a very skeptical set of peers when they assemble in a university, where oppressive instructors will shame them into unbelief.

Unlike Pat Robertson, go study among the many creationists online before writing it off. Look into it all before concluding your opinion. It doesn't require having a science degree to comprehend enough to realize why so many brilliant scientists have put their careers on the line for supporting the Bible account in Genesis. The stars are siding with Genesis 1.

The genealogies are part of the evidence, too. If there are frequent gaps in them amounting to thousands of years, then how can anyone take the Bible seriously? Would Jesus have allowed a deceptive genealogy to stand while He was alive? Would King David have allowed it concerning his lineage back to Adam? If you simply add up the years of each cited generation you would arrive at an age back to creation week similar to Bishop Usher's finding. Assuming the Bible to present truth, doesn't that cause a person to question why modernists would promote dating methods that age the earth in the billions of years? Let me direct you to serious challenges of those other dating methods presented by well respected scientists with real university degrees, if you need help finding such knowledge.

It boils down to whether you will believe God, or man. Choices, choices, thank God for the idea of choice. God has left us enough evidence to believe the creation account in the Bible as well as sufficient physical evidence. Plenty of science backs that up, but won't likely be cited in any public school textbook since those are typically written by atheist evolutionists. If you add in just a little "common sense" you will be able to proudly support the Genesis account and not lose a moment of sleep. In so doing you will confidently look at the next mouse in the mouse trap and not lament that as killing a long lost family member.
Jim
 
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