fear of commiting blasphemy of the Holy Spirit

[rickygtz]

I want to start this thread first asking completely honestly and seriousness on the question and a prayfull answer.

I attend a small Pentecostal church , were we belibeve in the baptism of the Holy Spirit with evidences of speaking in tongues. I I received the Lord Jesus Christ 5 years ago and got baptized on water in 2010 and the Lord bessed me with a very nice job and many blessings. As new believer the Lord changed my life, by watching the world and sin in a different way, slowly I left many sinful things and feel the new life in Christ, but then I spiritually started to weaken .

In my church there are sisters that have the gift of speaking in tongues which NOW I know is only given by the Lord to those who ask and He chooses to give.
I desired too much this gift , I felt like I was missing more to be closer to God, so one ocassion last year I read in an article that we had to ask pray for the gift, and received it by faith . And then open our mouth to speak . NOW I know this is not like that. The baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues needs to happen first, and is a miraclous gift and the gift of tongues will happen to some , as well of other gifts can be given by God .

But last year , wrongly , seeeking this gift, and ignorance feeling I wasn't a complete Christian without the gift of tongues with my desire to recieve this gift, and by beliveing what the article said, one day I kneel and pray in a House which was vacant for rent , I prayed in my native language and then tried to speak in tongues , I repeated words that I had heard from other sisters in church that came out to my mind, and then I left the house then time after that I been compulsively reading about the unpordonable sin, and the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Is been a year that my spiritual life has been decreased , I don't feel the Lord Presence as I was when I firts converted to him, I feel very little conviction when sinning, I still read the Bible, Believe in Jesus ,and attend church , almost daily ask for forgivness for this that I did last year . I know the Lord knows my heart and he knows the intentions that I had that day.

I have asked and search but there is different opinions on what the unpardonable sin, some think is to reject salvation through Christ, others the unbelief of God, others to speak and attribute to a demon or satan the works of the Holy Spirit. And some said is to mock God, or falsificate the Gifts of the Spirit.Many say you those who fear they have committed this sin, give a good sign that they have not.

Please I ask your prayers, and more than anything a prayful answer to this fear I have.

 

[rodd]

I want to start this thread first asking completely honestly and seriousness on the question and a prayfull answer.

I attend a small Pentecostal church , were we belibeve in the baptism of the Holy Spirit with evidences of speaking in tongues. I I received the Lord Jesus Christ 5 years ago and got baptized on water in 2010 and the Lord bessed me with a very nice job and many blessings. As new believer the Lord changed my life, by watching the world and sin in a different way, slowly I left many sinful things and feel the new life in Christ, but then I spiritually started to weaken .

In my church there are sisters that have the gift of speaking in tongues which NOW I know is only given by the Lord to those who ask and He chooses to give.
I desired too much this gift , I felt like I was missing more to be closer to God, so one ocassion last year I read in an article that we had to ask pray for the gift, and received it by faith . And then open our mouth to speak . NOW I know this is not like that. The baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues needs to happen first, and is a miraclous gift and the gift of tongues will happen to some , as well of other gifts can be given by God .

But last year , wrongly , seeeking this gift, and ignorance feeling I wasn't a complete Christian without the gift of tongues with my desire to recieve this gift, and by beliveing what the article said, one day I kneel and pray in a House which was vacant for rent , I prayed in my native language and then tried to speak in tongues , I repeated words that I had heard from other sisters in church that came out to my mind, and then I left the house then time after that I been compulsively reading about the unpordonable sin, and the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Is been a year that my spiritual life has been decreased , I don't feel the Lord Presence as I was when I firts converted to him, I feel very little conviction when sinning, I still read the Bible, Believe in Jesus ,and attend church , almost daily ask for forgivness for this that I did last year . I know the Lord knows my heart and he knows the intentions that I had that day.

I have asked and search but there is different opinions on what the unpardonable sin, some think is to reject salvation through Christ, others the unbelief of God, others to speak and attribute to a demon or satan the works of the Holy Spirit. And some said is to mock God, or falsificate the Gifts of the Spirit.Many say you those who fear they have committed this sin, give a good sign that they have not.

Please I ask your prayers, and more than anything a prayful answer to this fear I have.

The last thing God wants you to do is to live in fear and not understand that his call on you is irrevocable, it's the world that actually blasphemes the Holy Spirit through their rejection of what they now to be true and holy, they prefer the lie rather than truth, they prefer to live falsely in spite of the truth that they know they're rejecting.
See Romans 1:18-32, it's the ungodly that blaspheme the holy spirit it's rejection, therefore Jesus said there's no forgiveness now or later for them.
Alot of preachers and teachers misinterpret parables, eg, the oil and the virgins and the final warnings of revelation to prove that a Christian can lose his salvation, this then would contradict many other verses of assurance, these people just muddle peoples minds and teach false teachings doing more harm than good.
These are actually parallels describing the ultimate end of the unspiritual and the false teachers that are previlent in the church, they look like the rest but they're just in it for themselves their only interested in leadership and power for numberone.

 

[rickygtz]

Does anybody have another view on what this sin is, and how is commited? I am going through a lot of depression I need a word of wisdom , and encouragment to lift my spirit.

 

[Brad Huber]

Your faith destroys you. By faith, you believe that the receiving of the Holy Spirit must be accompanied with toungues. This is a fallacy and this faith and your lacking of the gift of toungues brings you down. Search scriptures for the truth, for my words alone will not convince you. For if you search with all your heart, you WILL find it.

 

[rickygtz]

Brad,

Thanks for your words, I just never been so dry spiritually, I know I should not have pretended to speak in tongues a year ago, but I got confussed on the information I saw , and tried, now I know, and I am fully convinced that this is a gift God gives, and one not have to do anything in our own, but to receive it with a clean heart. Now I know, but still I fear and have obsessived thoughts about my ignorance and what I tried to do. I want to know opinions on what is the unpardonable sin , the Lord spoke in Mathew 12, I want to know more of what this passage means. [h=3]Matthew 12:31-32[/h]
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

 

[DutchChristian]

The blasphemy of The Holy Ghost what is it?

Let us take a look at what The Scriptures have to say on this:

Mark 1:
28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

They said this:

22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He (Jesus) hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth He out devils.

So they called The Holy Ghost .... (i dare not even mention). you can see it in verses 22 and 30, that is what they: the scribes, said of The Lord Jesus Who Is GOD and He Was Standing right before them Showing them The Works of GOD Himself by The Holy Ghost, and so actually they said that Jesus supposedly according to them had a devil and that The Holy Ghost Power according to them is the power of satan, so they declared: ", and by the prince of the devils casteth He out devils." which we again can see here:

22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth He out devils.


Rickygtz Don't worry about all this! Just Walk on in Him and Stand Strong in The LORD His Hand is MIGHTY to Help you Keep on Going ! Have FAITH!

Believe in Jesus! Continue to Trust Him and KEEP ON WALKING!

And know that many people at one time or another believe by that lying serpent the sneaky devil that FILTHY LIAR, that they at one point in their walk might supposedly have commited this awfull blasphemy of the Holy Ghost (i once too also thought that i did this too, (by thinking my tongues was of the devil) but it was not! and in Christ, thanks to The Lord Jesus i am still walking strong thanks to The LORD! in The LORD by His Faith and by HIS Grace because it is All His Power, we cannot do anything of our own!) Let us always Surrender all to HIM!

And about a year ago i also heard terrible terrible and extremely EVIL Holy Ghost blasphemous wicked thoughts and voices over and over again so grievous and that are so gut wrenching evil (they almost made me mad with anger at them) and for one season they came so vehemently so every day i had to rebuke these wicked thoughts and voices and idea's often again and again i also repented every time just to be save in case and in fear that i might had blasphemed The Holy Ghost, and i was very fearful to hear this awful things that i might have commited this blasphemy which i would NEVER EVER want to do!!! EVER as i'd rather die! then blaspheme the Holy Ghost! the devil is always the accuser! (but it was not my own voice! or will to do! but it sounded 100% like mine own voice blaspheming the Holy Ghost! These things occured whilst praying and especially when reading the Word Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost in The Bible i would immediately hear this evil wicked blasphemy) the devils sure are mean! and they did not leave! but only after several months they went away too!) Now i know afterwards that it was a trial of my faith that The LORD Had Allowed for a season. And the devil puts fears and LIES in us (if we accept them) that pulls on that fear more so that (the devil hopes to weaken us) they think we will soon trip up and error more and become weak and heavy laden with a heavy burden... (if you accept it and give up) and stop believing or lose faith BUT BUT BUT!!! that fear is not ours to carry! give the fears back to where it belongs! to satan! Now i am no longer hearing these awful blasphemies any longer that seemingy at the moment i supposedly myself had commited over and over again against The Holy Ghost which was not true! The devil is the accuser!

And know that:

God LOOKS at the heart! He Knows the heart!

Walk ON!

Shake it off! Be Strengthened in The LORD

Keep on going! be not scared!

PRESS ON!

 

[Brighthouse]

Brother Rickytz As brother Dutch makes an excellent point,allow me please to comfort you through the Word itself as well! There is but one sin that Jesus blood did not cover.So you are correct rickytz there is one!! AS this sin you are talking about was not covered until jesus died and rose again, this is indeed covered!! Covered through the New covenant!( hebrews 8:6-13) please take note on verse 6-7 and 12 and 13!! This covers this one bro,but which one do you suppose is not covered?? The answer my brother is UNBELIEF!! There are many believers who look to mix the old law with the new one,those who do this go against the word of God!

First, when you read the law, it was NOT given to the gentiles!! Only the jews! How those who have never been, or are jewish mix the law in there life is to me a puzzle!( rom 2:14-16!!) The problem brother with the law was not that it was not perfect, it was,but who could fulfil it?? Not us!! Only Jesus! And by doing this!!( matt 5:17-18) Nothing passed away!! That is why Jesus fullfilled it! All through the gospels we see the law and then we see the promise of a New Covenant was is to come after Jesus, who already has now fullfilled it! So now let us deal with the only sin not covered!!UNBELIEF!!

Who do you place your trust in brother, the words of man or the Word of God? ( 1 cor 2:5,1 cor 4:20) So what is unbelief really brother? Because a man can have faith yet unbelief!( mark 9:23-24) Unbelief is saying the Grace Jesus already gave us is not enough for us!Calling God a lier! For unbelief is linked with all cowards and murders and liers and etc...! Because brother anyone who has fallen from God' grace falls into unbelief! ( rev 21:8) gal 5:4, and finally heb 6:4-6!) Is jesus going to die again for us?? NEVER!! Those who go back to the law must fullfill the law,and we already know brother, only Jesus could and already did! Holy Spirit is my teacher brother. ( 1 john 2:27) And can be for all if they are both willing to abide in God's word and!!! ONLY BELIEVE!! ( mark 5:35-36!!) Hope this helps you in your seeking and causes you to always contiue to seek the truth which can only set us free in our belief of our very faith in Christ Jesus!!( phil 3:12-14!!) We press forward brother, we do not look, or go back,for if we do, we turn our back on our Jesus whom we have promised to follow! Jesus is not behind us brother, he is always in front of us, and we his children move forward through his most wonderful Name in following HIM!! amen! The prize of grace whom Jesus shed his very blood for, is for those who believe! I BELIEVE!! may this increase you belief as well!! amen!

 

[rickygtz]

Thanks for your encouragment, brothers, does anybody have another input on my post.? What is the unpardonabble sin examples?, I want to be sure it has nothing to do with what I did last year, when due to my confussion I tryed to speak in tongues falsely in the flesh.

 

[DutchChristian]

Thanks for your encouragment, brothers, does anybody have another input on my post.? What is the unpardonabble sin examples?, I want to be sure it has nothing to do with what I did last year, when do to my confussion I tryed to speak in tongues falsely in the flesh.

Dear Rickygtz,

The example is already given in the Scriptures.

Don't keep dwelling on this, just ask for a clean heart from The Lord.

you have nothing to worry about, as you tried to speak in tongues from out of your own flesh that certainly is not blaphemy of The Holy Ghost and God Knows your heart.

Carry on!

God Bless you,
dutch

 

[Brighthouse]

Brother Rickytz The enemy always looks to rob us!!( john 10:10) It is impotant from the word of God to believe what our Jesus says. Here is his fact about tongues for you to both trust in and believe!( 1 cor 14:2) For one who speaks in a tongue does NOT speak unto men BUT!!! Unto God! period bro! amen blessing always to you.

 

[rickygtz]

Brother Rickytz The enemy always looks to rob us!!( john 10:10) It is impotant from the word of God to believe what our Jesus says. Here is his fact about tongues for you to both trust in and believe!( 1 cor 14:2) For one who speaks in a tongue does NOT speak unto men BUT!!! Unto God! period bro! amen blessing always to you.

Thanks Brighthouse, this is a very important topic and difficult question and confuses us new Christians, but I think what DutchChristian said is true, the word of God doesn't tell exactly what this sin is, but it does gives a example , and and I think a Christian we would never speak against our heavenly father, I think I need to forgive myself, and seek Jesus everyday thanks and please keep me in your prayers .