Back in aug 2019 a woman (K) I'd not spoken to, or seen at all in perhaps 2 decades.. we crossed paths and she was very excited to see me, and insisted I go to a jon ramires spiritual warfare conference at my original home church, but had not attended much at all since 2002. in hindsight now, her excitement to see me wasn't joyous, it was terror.
So I go to the conference.. and I was not impressed with Jon. K finds me in the audience at the end of the friday 7pm to 9pm session, and semi-forcibly drags me to the pastor and loudly exclaims "you need prayer".
The pastor, who remembers me from decades ago, is confused..and he says to me: "...I know you, I know your family, what do you need prayer for, wife?"
But the word wife slips out of his mouth as if something spoke it through him.
I lose my bearing a bit and I reply, trying to hold back laughter.. "no, no i would not ask for that, as allegedly I already have one"
The conversation goes down hill from there. About 5 people are present and a woman pipes up quite loudly "allegedly!?"
I try and plainly explain that 6 years ago i had accepted a woman's personal vow to me, and i had to wait 7 years for her to return or let go. (i only had to wait 2 more months, so i was looking forwards to see what would happen.)
I accidentally mentioned my ex's name (didn't want to), and that she used to go to this church, and she told me she knew me as a child. At this point K freaks out, she is almost crying, in a state of terror, is clinging to the side of her husband.. who has heard the story many times, and I can see he is trying to stop himself from laughing, as am I at this point.
The woman who almost shouted "allegedly?!" goes and grabs her husband, who.. is regarded by that church as a prophet. (i didn't know that at the time)
He comes over, speaks to me continuously for a solid 3 minutes in a very positive way, describing a vision he saw concerning me. His prophecy which mentions wounds of rejection.. was very cleverly worded so that only I knew: that the woman i knew as a child and rejected me as a child was the same woman who rejected me as an adult. I suspect now that K knew my ex molested me as a child.. but i didn't know that at the time, or believe it. no one else hearing the prophecy would have figured out it was the same woman both in childhood and adulthood.
His prophecy shut everyone up, not much happened after that, I sort of just walked away after his wife tried to get me to pray through some simple prayers about breaking off soul ties, and i went along with it because i knew it wouldn't make a difference.
A few days after the conference I coincidentally cross paths with K again, and I try to talk to her, asking her why she wouldn't want the two of us to reconcile. --She wasn't hardly even able to speak to me, only stammering "that woman is evil!" "stay away from her".
---5 years later---
I've never seen her again till just this weekend. It was quite the coincidence that we crossed paths, seemed like an act of God to me. She was with two friends of mine who i hadn't seen in a year or so and they were happy to see me, they have a 1 yr old.. K was very nervously making eye contact but didn't say a word. she repositioned her ~1 yr old on the other side of her so it was 6 feet away from me instead of 4. I could see it in her eyes she is absolutely scared, i sort of just ignored her, I made eye contact twice but was focusing on talking to my friend's wife in a good manner.
I've had recurring thoughts to talk to the church board and ask them if they think this is something that they should question K about without me trying to talk to her again... because i know that's not going to work.
or i can just walk away and let K wallow in her terror of knowing something is seriously wrong with me, but thinking i'm half demon because i actually want to reconcile with the woman who should be in prison.
Thoughts on this?
I really have no hope of the church board telling me i'm anything except schizophrenic. because i know for substantial certainty they aren't going to accept the rest of the story either.
but it doesn't feel right to do nothing.
So I go to the conference.. and I was not impressed with Jon. K finds me in the audience at the end of the friday 7pm to 9pm session, and semi-forcibly drags me to the pastor and loudly exclaims "you need prayer".
The pastor, who remembers me from decades ago, is confused..and he says to me: "...I know you, I know your family, what do you need prayer for, wife?"
But the word wife slips out of his mouth as if something spoke it through him.
I lose my bearing a bit and I reply, trying to hold back laughter.. "no, no i would not ask for that, as allegedly I already have one"
The conversation goes down hill from there. About 5 people are present and a woman pipes up quite loudly "allegedly!?"
I try and plainly explain that 6 years ago i had accepted a woman's personal vow to me, and i had to wait 7 years for her to return or let go. (i only had to wait 2 more months, so i was looking forwards to see what would happen.)
I accidentally mentioned my ex's name (didn't want to), and that she used to go to this church, and she told me she knew me as a child. At this point K freaks out, she is almost crying, in a state of terror, is clinging to the side of her husband.. who has heard the story many times, and I can see he is trying to stop himself from laughing, as am I at this point.
The woman who almost shouted "allegedly?!" goes and grabs her husband, who.. is regarded by that church as a prophet. (i didn't know that at the time)
He comes over, speaks to me continuously for a solid 3 minutes in a very positive way, describing a vision he saw concerning me. His prophecy which mentions wounds of rejection.. was very cleverly worded so that only I knew: that the woman i knew as a child and rejected me as a child was the same woman who rejected me as an adult. I suspect now that K knew my ex molested me as a child.. but i didn't know that at the time, or believe it. no one else hearing the prophecy would have figured out it was the same woman both in childhood and adulthood.
His prophecy shut everyone up, not much happened after that, I sort of just walked away after his wife tried to get me to pray through some simple prayers about breaking off soul ties, and i went along with it because i knew it wouldn't make a difference.
A few days after the conference I coincidentally cross paths with K again, and I try to talk to her, asking her why she wouldn't want the two of us to reconcile. --She wasn't hardly even able to speak to me, only stammering "that woman is evil!" "stay away from her".
---5 years later---
I've never seen her again till just this weekend. It was quite the coincidence that we crossed paths, seemed like an act of God to me. She was with two friends of mine who i hadn't seen in a year or so and they were happy to see me, they have a 1 yr old.. K was very nervously making eye contact but didn't say a word. she repositioned her ~1 yr old on the other side of her so it was 6 feet away from me instead of 4. I could see it in her eyes she is absolutely scared, i sort of just ignored her, I made eye contact twice but was focusing on talking to my friend's wife in a good manner.
I've had recurring thoughts to talk to the church board and ask them if they think this is something that they should question K about without me trying to talk to her again... because i know that's not going to work.
or i can just walk away and let K wallow in her terror of knowing something is seriously wrong with me, but thinking i'm half demon because i actually want to reconcile with the woman who should be in prison.
Thoughts on this?
I really have no hope of the church board telling me i'm anything except schizophrenic. because i know for substantial certainty they aren't going to accept the rest of the story either.
but it doesn't feel right to do nothing.
