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Give Me an Answer - All Religions Do Not Say the Same Thing. Jesus Is Different From the Rest.
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Jesus said " I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except by me."
Jesus proved this. He stood out because unlike the others He fulfilled the prophecies.
He did miracles, healings and raised the dead.
He spoke in perfect wisdom and led a perfect life.
Religion says it's what we do for God.
With Jesus it's what He has done for us.
Unlike the others He humbled Himself to our level.
Unlike the others He laid down His life and died for us
Unlike the others He rose from the dead.
Unlike the others He is the means of salvation, redemption, transformation through the power of grace and gives eternal life.
Jesus proved this. He stood out because unlike the others He fulfilled the prophecies.
He did miracles, healings and raised the dead.
He spoke in perfect wisdom and led a perfect life.
Religion says it's what we do for God.
With Jesus it's what He has done for us.
Unlike the others He humbled Himself to our level.
Unlike the others He laid down His life and died for us
Unlike the others He rose from the dead.
Unlike the others He is the means of salvation, redemption, transformation through the power of grace and gives eternal life.
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Hebrews 1:1 Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets,
2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.
3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
4 having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs.
5 For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son, today I have begotten you”? Or again, “I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son”?
6 And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God's angels worship him.”
7 Of the angels he says, “He makes his angels winds, and his ministers a flame of fire.”
8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of your kingdom.
2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.
3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
4 having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs.
5 For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son, today I have begotten you”? Or again, “I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son”?
6 And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God's angels worship him.”
7 Of the angels he says, “He makes his angels winds, and his ministers a flame of fire.”
8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of your kingdom.
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Amen brother.
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People today believe that "Abraham Lincoln" lived and was the 16th President of the United States, But how they know? They was not there, neither do they know anybody that saw him! The only reason why we know, because it is written down in a Book. Same as "Alexander Great", how do we know he existed? Because he is written down in a book! How do we know Jesus got up from the grave, because it is written down in A Book! It take just as much faith to believe in "George Washington" as it do to believe "Jesus died and Got up from The Grave"on The 3rd. day. For it is Written down in a book.
Oh, people know he exist alright they just do not want to obey his commands because they love to sin and their deeds are evil under God's rules. Sometimes I wonder, but i do know why! IF matting was not so good, they would not be any babies and the world would not multiply. you can be sure of that. No people, no animals! God sure knew what he was doing in making that female!
We had a old saying in The hood; "I 'm in Love with a woman, I can't stand"
I knew a older woman when I was a young man, she said, why these husband stray form home. I could not tell her or my wife, the reason why. I ain't that big of a fool!
Oh, people know he exist alright they just do not want to obey his commands because they love to sin and their deeds are evil under God's rules. Sometimes I wonder, but i do know why! IF matting was not so good, they would not be any babies and the world would not multiply. you can be sure of that. No people, no animals! God sure knew what he was doing in making that female!
We had a old saying in The hood; "I 'm in Love with a woman, I can't stand"
I knew a older woman when I was a young man, she said, why these husband stray form home. I could not tell her or my wife, the reason why. I ain't that big of a fool!Jesus prayed in the Garden of Gethsemane that the cup be removed from Him of dying on the cross to pay the ransom for our sins which is death, nevertheless, the Father's will be done and not His. He did die, and rose from the dead.
There is no other way for us to be saved otherwise Jesus would not have gone through all that suffering, insults, and death.
Religion puts the emphasis on man to do it; to make himself good and to save themselves which is what Judaism failed to do for why the Old Covenant had to be replaced with the New Covenant that it is God's turn now and He will do it and all He asks from us is to believe Him that we are saved simply for having believed in Him and that He will help us to follow Him by believing Him to be the Good Shepherd & Friend that He is; thus the just shall live by faith.
In spite of what the Vatican says as well as the compromising leaders in Christianity like the former Billy Graham & Robert Schuller, there is only one way to be saved & that is to trust Jesus Christ to do it for why no religion can help man to achieve it.
Billy Graham Believes Catholic Doctrine of Salvation Without Bible, Gospel, or Name of Christ
Television interview of Billy Graham by Robert Schuller. Part 1, an approximately 7-minute-long broadcast in Southern California on Saturday, May 31, 1997. The following is an exact transcript* of an excerpt close to the end of this broadcast.
Television interview of Dr. Graham by Dr. Schuller continued: Part II was broadcast on Sunday, June 8. The following is an accurate transcription of a segment.*
There is no other way for us to be saved otherwise Jesus would not have gone through all that suffering, insults, and death.
Religion puts the emphasis on man to do it; to make himself good and to save themselves which is what Judaism failed to do for why the Old Covenant had to be replaced with the New Covenant that it is God's turn now and He will do it and all He asks from us is to believe Him that we are saved simply for having believed in Him and that He will help us to follow Him by believing Him to be the Good Shepherd & Friend that He is; thus the just shall live by faith.
In spite of what the Vatican says as well as the compromising leaders in Christianity like the former Billy Graham & Robert Schuller, there is only one way to be saved & that is to trust Jesus Christ to do it for why no religion can help man to achieve it.
Billy Graham Believes Catholic Doctrine of Salvation Without Bible, Gospel, or Name of Christ
Television interview of Billy Graham by Robert Schuller. Part 1, an approximately 7-minute-long broadcast in Southern California on Saturday, May 31, 1997. The following is an exact transcript* of an excerpt close to the end of this broadcast.
| Schuller: | Tell me, what do you think is the future of Christianity? |
| Graham: | Well, Christianity and being a true believer--you know, I think there's the Body of Christ. This comes from all the Christian groups around the world, outside the Christian groups. I think everybody that loves Christ, or knows Christ, whether they're conscious of it or not, they're members of the Body of Christ. And I don't think that we're going to see a great sweeping revival, that will turn the whole world to Christ at any time. I think James answered that, the Apostle James in the first council in Jerusalem, when he said that God's purpose for this age is to call out a people for His name. And that's what God is doing today, He's calling people out of the world for His name, whether they come from the Muslim world, or the Buddhist world, or the Christian world or the non-believing world, they are members of the Body of Christ because they've been called by God. They may not even know the name of Jesus but they know in their hearts that they need something that they don't have, and they turn to the only light that they have, and I think that they are saved, and that they're going to be with us in heaven. |
| Schuller: | What, what I hear you saying that it's possible for Jesus Christ to come into human hearts and soul and life, even if they've been born in darkness and have never had exposure to the Bible. Is that a correct interpretation of what you're saying? |
| Graham: | Yes, it is, because I believe that. I've met people in various parts of the world in tribal situations, that they have never seen a Bible or heard about a Bible, and never heard of Jesus, but they've believed in their hearts that there was a God, and they've tried to live a life that was quite apart from the surrounding community in which they lived. |
| Schuller: | [R. S. trips over his tongue for a moment, his face beaming, then says] I'm so thrilled to hear you say this. There's a wideness in God's mercy. |
| Graham: | There is. There definitely is. |
| Schuller: | You knew ... Fulton Sheen. You knew these men. Your comments on both of these men [Fulton Sheen and Norman V. Peale]. |
| Graham: | The primary way of communicating is to live the life, let people see that you're living what you proclaim.... [comments on his friendship and conversations with Fulton Sheen] I lost a very dear friend, and since that time, the whole relationship between me and my work, and you and your work, and the Roman Catholic Church has changed. They open their arms to welcome us and we have the support of the Catholic Church almost everywhere we go. And I think that we must come to the place where we keep our eyes on Jesus Christ, not on what denomination or what church or what group we belong to. |
Billy Graham preached the gospel but when it came to his altar call, it was the opposite of the gospel and thus apostasy.
Billy preached this gospel that it is not going to church every Sunday that is going to save you. it is not by keeping the ten commandments that is going to save you. It is all those who call upon the name of the Lord.
BUT when it came to the altar call, Billy Graham said the opposite.
"If you are not sure you are saved, come forward and make a commitment to follow Christ."
Whatever happen to "If you are not sure you are saved, if you had called upon the name of the Lord to be saved, believe you are saved." ????
But instead .. to keep that commitment to follow Christ to gain the assurance of salvation you have to go to church every Sunday... keep His commandments which are higher than the works of the law. So pretty much combining discipleship with salvation and thus losing the race when running it to obtain salvation thus failing to enter into that rest provided by Jesus Christ that they are saved since having believed in Him at the calling of the gospel.
One has to be saved with Jesus Christ in them so they can run that race by faith, looking to the author & finisher of our faith to help them lay aside every weight & sin daily in walking in the light in fellowship with the Father & the Son to be fruitful as His disciples to obtain the incorruptible crown and to avoid becoming a castaway thus disqualified to attend the Marriage Supper in Heaven but not cast out of His kingdom altogether for they are still saved Matthew 25:1-13
Those disqualified are reprobates for why they will be known as vessels unto dishonor in His House, vessels of wood & earth, that will be resurrected after the great tribulation to serve the King of kings on earth from all over the world.
But before the Bridegroom comes, those who are under that commitment can ask Jesus Christ to set them free to rest in Him and His word to us that He will help us to follow Him as the Good Shepherd & Friend that He is, for why it is written that the just shall live by faith.
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Add to the fact there is more evidence for God, Christianity, Jesus, and the events in the Bible (therefore history) than any other "religion".
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I agree with you 100% and while I'm equipped to be an apologist (defending the faith) and I do when appropriate,
I find that the reason most people don't "belief" or choose to follow Christ, it not because of a lack of evidence as they state.
I think simply put (and this is Biblical) people love their sins and want to be their own god, and don't want to entertain
the possibility that they need to submit to a God, and don't want to dethrone self.
This is why you can give "certain" people all the evidence and they will deny or reject it. Not because the evidence
isn't there, but because they are so biased against it because a commitment to truth requires a change. And
they don't want to change and submit to God and let go of their sins.
Well, there is an unknown factor in that group of sinners and that is they believe they cannot change since they tried to change themselves since sin has a way of being self destructive or negative but sin has dominion over their lives.
So what bothers me is that some sinners thinks they have to clean up their lives first before coming to Jesus Christ thus failing to recognize that is also what Jesus Christ came to do and not just offer eternal life for all those that believe in Him. I suppose asking for a commitment to follow Christ for their assurance of salvation can be the cause of why they do not come to Jesus religiously or the call to "repent" as if to repent from sins first before coming to Jesus would be the other reason why those sinners do not come to Jesus Christ because they cannot repent first from those sins. They need Jesus Christ in them by repenting from unbelief by believing in Him and then they have power to live as sons of God in living a life of repentance looking to the author & finisher of our faith to help them lay aside every weight & sin daily in walking in the light in fellowship with the Father & the Son to be fruitful as His disciples & ready to be received by the Bridegroom.
Jesus can deliver sinners from their bondage to sin and to death as it is His purpose to destroy the works of the devil in our lives 1 John 3:8 and deliver us from every evil work 2 Timithy 4:18 & continue to help us from falling into sin again from being stuck in it Jude 1:24-25
For the sinners that cannot change themselves, Jesus can change them when they hope in Him for that as well as for eternal life.
But yeah, there are sinners out there that love their sins to live in them regardless of how self destructive those sins are to themselves and to those around them as they will wax worse and worse.
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Yea , I hear that often.
I think it is guilt and condemnation. The devil tells them they aren't good enough and can't be loved.
Sometimes it is pride.
But yes, you are correct, come to Jesus now, don't wait to clean yourself.
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Thanks for sharing.
What are your thoughts on if their is evidence out there to convince an open minded person on if Jesus
existed and did rise from the dead as He claimed he would?
Is that the same thing as waiting for the Holy Spirit to fall on a potential believer before the potential believer believes in Him to be saved? I would agree because of Matthew 12:38-40
As for searching the scripture testifying of Jesus Christ so you can come to & believe in Him to be saved, isn't that the same as looking for evidence? John 5:39-40
Apollo, a disciple of John the Baptist's, had to be shown scripture to preach the scripture more perfectly afterwards that Jesus is the Christ.
Acts 18:24 And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.
25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.
26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
27 And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:
28 For he mightily convinced the Jews, and that publicly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.
As for extrabiblical evidence, like the unexplained 3 hours of darkness at His crucifixion, secular history would report such an event and did, to confirm the Biblical account.
Darkness at the crucifixion: metaphor or real history?
When it comes to that false science called the evolution theory, the laws of science has to be applied to disprove the evolution theory while proving the scriptures to be true like dinosaurs ( the behemoth ) existed with mankind in Job 40:15-24
To expose the lies in the world and in the church, we still need the scriptures as evidence for those that seek the truth even if it is to believe in Him to be saved.
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Rom 1:18 But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness.
Rom 1:19 They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them.
Rom 1:20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God. (NLT)
If creation itself is not enough "evidence" that God exists, then the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared unto ALL men....
Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
On top of all that when a person hears the Gospel of the Kingdom (which is how faith comes) they know in themselves what they are hearing is true, and that they need a savior to save them if they are honest with themselves, and not reject the Holy Spirit that is encouraging them.
It is the Father that is drawing them unto the Son to reveal the Son to them so they can believe and be saved as our believing in Him is a manifested work of God the Father. Scripture below proves this.
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
If a seeker needs to feel the phenomenon of what is believed to be the Holy Spirit falling on them, as proof of salvation, one has to wonder why believing in Him which is a work of the Father, is not enough for why Jesus gave us this warning.
Matthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
So when one believes in the Lord Jesus Christ & that God has raised Him from the dead, for how they were saved, that is hardly resisting the Holy Spirit when they are being born again of the Spirit.
However, when one goes forward to pray seeking for salvation, it does makes one wonder why believing in Him is not enough. Perhaps the company they keep or having that inward expectation of being saved like on Pentecost may be the cause for why they were inwardly hoping for a sign. The danger is the focus of their hope is being shifted from the believing the preaching of the cross for salvation to hoping to share in the same supernatural experience at Pentecost; whether they realize this or not, the gospel shifted from believing in Jesus Christ to the gospel of having that falling of the Holy Ghost at Pentecost.
I know believers are saved before they went up to pray for their salvation because that happened in Acts 10:43-44 before any of those believing Gentiles went forward to get water baptized. It is a matter of recognizing that truth so as to not promote a phenomenon as if to sow doubts towards other believers for not having experienced that same phenomenon in order for them to know that they are saved when believing in Him is a manifested work of the Father for why they should know they are saved.
I know the apostle John warned believers not to believe every spirit but test them, and so I do wonder if the thieves are at the door leading others astray by that phenomenon so their testimony points others to seeking after them even if they were not seeking it in the first place, thus the phenomenon accomplished leading other astray and not just the seeker that got saved before they came forward.
1 John 4:1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: <--- same thing as saying 2 Corinthians 13:5
2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. <---- same thing as saying 2 Corinthians 11:1-4
2 Corinthians 11:1Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.
2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. <-- same thing as saying John 14:17
John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
1 John 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. <--- same thing a saying 1 Timothy 4:1-2; Isaiah 8:19; and 2 Timothy 2:15-16
1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Isaiah 8:19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
Whether the deception occurred after salvation before they went forward or the deception occurred later on, believers should test the spirits with Him in what it has led them to testify to others about instead of Jesus Christ.
1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
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