Hello, my name is Angela

[Amooer]

I am 51 years old, and recently have been thrown into a whirlwind of Christian chaos. It’s the best way I know how to put it.
A seed was planted into me that there is great deception, and for two months now I’ve been reading scripture as if my very life depended on it. Because it does.

it started when a friend of mine told me that we should be practicing the feasts, holy days, and the Saturday sabbath (which I fell down into a rabbit hole of when a day begins, when sabbath begins, which lead to many other rabbit holes).
I Had to get a notebook, to keep track of my journey, as the tabs on my internet browser were over 100.
The weekend I decided we would practice the sabbath on Saturday, our pastor (not knowing) called for my husband to help the church out with something (internet, setting things up, etc.) and when my husband told him, finally, our pastor asked him, “how’s that going for you?”
And every weekend since, it’s been a battle with the world, it feels. My friend also decided to stop eating “unclean meat”, and sending me tons of videos.
It’s gotten so intense here at my house, that I’ve been in tears, explaining to my husband that I want to do what I’m supposed to do, I want to spend eternity with my Savior, and please God.
I was raised with a Catholic father, and a baptist mother. I was baptized twice as a baby as a Catholic, because I almost died in the hospital when I was born.
I was baptized at 16 in the baptist church my grandmother brought me to when I lived with her for awhile. I married a Catholic in 1990, and had 4 sons. All baptized in the Catholic Church.In my 40’s I moved out of state and found this church that states “the church for the rest of us”, but it’s based on Pentecostal, which I didn’t find out for a long while. I have no issues with that, but my friend tells me this church is for new Christians. It doesn’t get into the meat of things.
I recently joined the worship team, as I am a singer, my husband as well. Ever since, we have experienced much disappointment and frustration in this, but the worship always outweighs the grief. I tell you this because it leads me to the leader of worship... who I caught making a comment on how he doesn’t understand and is disgusted with us “half the worship team” eating unclean meat (a lunch of pizza, with all the meats on it... ordered by the church!) he said this to my friend, who I was sitting next to, while I was eating the pizza.
these are only a few things out of the so very many that is and has been going on in my life over the last two months. I cling to my Bible, pray,ask God questions, which he has shown me a path to many of the answers in scripture, but I feel even though CLOSER THAN EVER BEFORE, confused!!

I found this forum by accident today, searching for answers. I can’t even remember the questionI had now.
I’ve read so many opinions, so many Christians arguing that it made me cry, that I know I need good counsel, and feel I need to go to my pastor. But I do not want to be a burden on him. See, I’m always the last to leave church, an event, and always show up very early. My heart is hungry? Sermons and testimony fill my heart up and I seem to be the only one who wants to talk about it afterwards, as if everyone around me isn’t as on fire and moved by it like me, which makes me feel embarrassed. I am not really an outgoing person?

forgive me for how long this is, and going all over the place.
It seems the best way I could think to give anyone reading a glimpse into me right now.
Thank you, and God Bless!

 

[Waggles]

G'day there Angela,
Just read your New Testament and enjoy the clarity of God's word which shall speak to your heart and soul.
Remember the gospel was spoken and written to the illiterate and the poor and the slaves to embrace - you do not need theology to believe in the gospel.
It is not complicated.
Repent - come back to God's righteousness;
Water baptism by full immersion for the forgiveness of your sins;
Pray to receive the Holy Spirit and the power of God within you;
Learn over time to do good and to depart from sin.
Pray always to God about everything.

 

[Mayflower]

I am 51 years old, and recently have been thrown into a whirlwind of Christian chaos. It’s the best way I know how to put it.
A seed was planted into me that there is great deception, and for two months now I’ve been reading scripture as if my very life depended on it. Because it does.

it started when a friend of mine told me that we should be practicing the feasts, holy days, and the Saturday sabbath (which I fell down into a rabbit hole of when a day begins, when sabbath begins, which lead to many other rabbit holes).
I Had to get a notebook, to keep track of my journey, as the tabs on my internet browser were over 100.
The weekend I decided we would practice the sabbath on Saturday, our pastor (not knowing) called for my husband to help the church out with something (internet, setting things up, etc.) and when my husband told him, finally, our pastor asked him, “how’s that going for you?”
And every weekend since, it’s been a battle with the world, it feels. My friend also decided to stop eating “unclean meat”, and sending me tons of videos.
It’s gotten so intense here at my house, that I’ve been in tears, explaining to my husband that I want to do what I’m supposed to do, I want to spend eternity with my Savior, and please God.
I was raised with a Catholic father, and a baptist mother. I was baptized twice as a baby as a Catholic, because I almost died in the hospital when I was born.
I was baptized at 16 in the baptist church my grandmother brought me to when I lived with her for awhile. I married a Catholic in 1990, and had 4 sons. All baptized in the Catholic Church.In my 40’s I moved out of state and found this church that states “the church for the rest of us”, but it’s based on Pentecostal, which I didn’t find out for a long while. I have no issues with that, but my friend tells me this church is for new Christians. It doesn’t get into the meat of things.
I recently joined the worship team, as I am a singer, my husband as well. Ever since, we have experienced much disappointment and frustration in this, but the worship always outweighs the grief. I tell you this because it leads me to the leader of worship... who I caught making a comment on how he doesn’t understand and is disgusted with us “half the worship team” eating unclean meat (a lunch of pizza, with all the meats on it... ordered by the church!) he said this to my friend, who I was sitting next to, while I was eating the pizza.
these are only a few things out of the so very many that is and has been going on in my life over the last two months. I cling to my Bible, pray,ask God questions, which he has shown me a path to many of the answers in scripture, but I feel even though CLOSER THAN EVER BEFORE, confused!!

I found this forum by accident today, searching for answers. I can’t even remember the questionI had now.
I’ve read so many opinions, so many Christians arguing that it made me cry, that I know I need good counsel, and feel I need to go to my pastor. But I do not want to be a burden on him. See, I’m always the last to leave church, an event, and always show up very early. My heart is hungry? Sermons and testimony fill my heart up and I seem to be the only one who wants to talk about it afterwards, as if everyone around me isn’t as on fire and moved by it like me, which makes me feel embarrassed. I am not really an outgoing person?

forgive me for how long this is, and going all over the place.
It seems the best way I could think to give anyone reading a glimpse into me right now.
Thank you, and God Bless!

Seems like you have a lot on your plate and it is more then a meaty pizza. :hug: Welcome to Talk Jesus.

 

[MrBear]

Thank you for sharing
Sounds like your friend wants you to keep the Torah I think that is amazing many people think the old laws don’t apply anymore ( I don’t agree)
But they are hard to keep, don’t despair the lord knows your heart
Keep walking with righteousness
the enemy loves to use confusion as a tool to push others from the father ( or else we wouldn’t have so many denominations)
Follow the Holy Spirit
And welcome sister
SHALOM

 

[KatrinaWingo]

it is not what goes into the mouth that makes a man unclean, but what comes out of it. I love both the old and new testament but the time for separating ourselves so that we have a message and learn to follow it changed with Jesus because the time came to give the message to everyone. Not that there wouldn't be some benefit still. The Bible message of repent and follow Jesus....the 180 degree turn away from sin, and focus on our trinity God. The Bible is literal truth, but don't stress, pray and ask for clarity while you study. in Galatians 5 I think it talks of the fruit of the spirit....that is an area of focus on how God wants us to be. Be blessed!

 

[Amooer]

Thank you for sharing
Sounds like your friend wants you to keep the Torah I think that is amazing many people think the old laws don’t apply anymore ( I don’t agree)
But they are hard to keep, don’t despair the lord knows your heart
Keep walking with righteousness
the enemy loves to use confusion as a tool to push others from the father ( or else we wouldn’t have so many denominations)
Follow the Holy Spirit
And welcome sister
SHALOM

Thank you that is what she is trying to do. I’ve spent all these days researching and reading my Bible. I’m not ready to watch all the videos she has sent me, as I want to know what the Word says. Until now I’ve been reading to feed my soul, but now it’s to learn, and I feel an urgency in it.
I don’t want to waste any time not obeying His Word. It has been confusing. I appreciate your words so much. Thank you
By the way, today’s theme, in the less than an hour that I’ve been awake, has been “The Holy Spirit”. Your message was that of affirmation, and love. Again, thank you

 

[Amooer]

it is not what goes into the mouth that makes a man unclean, but what comes out of it. I love both the old and new testament but the time for separating ourselves so that we have a message and learn to follow it changed with Jesus because the time came to give the message to everyone. Not that there wouldn't be some benefit still. The Bible message of repent and follow Jesus....the 180 degree turn away from sin, and focus on our trinity God. The Bible is literal truth, but don't stress, pray and ask for clarity while you study. in Galatians 5 I think it talks of the fruit of the spirit....that is an area of focus on how God wants us to be. Be blessed!

Thank you

 

[Amooer]

Seems like you have a lot on your plate and it is more then a meaty pizza. :hug: Welcome to Talk Jesus.

Thank you

 

[Amooer]

G'day there Angela,
Just read your New Testament and enjoy the clarity of God's word which shall speak to your heart and soul.
Remember the gospel was spoken and written to the illiterate and the poor and the slaves to embrace - you do not need theology to believe in the gospel.
It is not complicated.
Repent - come back to God's righteousness;
Water baptism by full immersion for the forgiveness of your sins;
Pray to receive the Holy Spirit and the power of God within you;
Learn over time to do good and to depart from sin.
Pray always to God about everything.

Thank you

 

[KatrinaWingo]

sure, and big welcome! blessings!

 

[Brad Huber]

Read Acts chapter 15, it might bring you some relief. In it, there is an example of people wanting the non jews, those not under the mosaic laws, to adhere to mosaic law. It is clear that it brought much confusion and frustration, and burdened unnecessarily those non jews (called gentiles even if believers). If you wish to put yourself under mosaic law, you lessen the grace given to you.

 

[Whendancer]

My stressed sister in Christ! I am 63 years old and I have been in Christ for over 40 years. My church mother "mentors" were the ones that taught me, by example, to "try all spirits" because not everyone in the congregation is in the Body of Christ. The joy of the Lord is our strength. The enemy seems to have weakened you by taking your joy. I, too, had a friend that I wanted to please by embracing Jewish traditions and rituals. I was exhausted and spending money on unnecessary stuff. Once I was no longer letting them have input on my life: they walked away from our friendship. Ahhhhhh, sweet freedom! It's okay to respect the Jewish history of the roots of the tree that we are grafted onto, but we must adhere to the pleadings of the Holy Spirit's teaching us to be more like Jesus Christ- the Prince of Peace. Amen? And, HE did HIS Father's work....EVEN ON THE SABBATH which angered the religious leaders. His wisdom is best described in James 3:17...pure...peace-loving....considerate...submissive...etc. Enjoy your salvation...enjoy your family mealtimes and be grateful for the food provided because NONE OF IT IS UNCLEAN FOR THOSE IN CHRIST! And, when you go into your prayer closet, bless our Father with love songs, hymns, and your favorite worship songs....with humility tell Him ALL that is in your heart AND listen to what HE shares with you. And, dear sister, no more comparing your spiritual "level" with other members. Just enjoy the fellowship, Amen? We ALL need to be as children in our faith but as comrades in our battles against our real enemy: the devil. Amen? Be encouraged!

 

[PloughBoy]

For those who have been trained, once they were converted. Meaning after they were "Born of GOD" I said after. meaning once they became a "True Child of The Living GOD" a "New Creature" meaning they became a "lamb" and was fed" "Unadulterated milk" and once they became a Teen in Christ and was trained [properly discipled] to desirer unadulterated untainted milk which is not sour to the taste. And when the tainted milk is force into their mouths they immediately spit it out and refused to drink. And if they do, they become sick to the stomach, and begin to start "vomiting" and sometimes violently vomiting it out. And start crying out, something is wrong. I am sick. 'It is a safeguard from GOD. And the The Mature in GOD is suppose to recognize this, from the breath of the Lambs mouth.

1. You do not try to feed a unconverted soul, food that is meant for a converted soul.. It does not apply.
2. And there is food that is meant for the Baby in the womb.
3. And there is a type of milk that is design for a new born babe.
4. There is a type of milk for the "terrible twos", who are so active.
5. Then there is the "Adolescence" Training and learning how to eat the different kinds of meat. But still desiring "Wholesome" Milk.
6. Then at 16, they know it all.
7. Then young Adulthood, we know it all
8. Middle age, we are thinking it over.
9. Elderly, we have come to the conclusion, we don't know nothing and didn't know nothing, and we wait, look, and listen. and waiting on the "Judgement".

(John 21)NASB Copyright 1977
15So when they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of John, do you love ME more than these?” He said to Him, “Yes, Lord; You know that I love You.” He said to him, “Tend My LAMBS.” 16He said to him again a second time, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me?” He said to Him, “Yes, Lord; You know that I love You.” He said to him, “FEED" My SHEEP.” 17He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, DO YOU LOVE ME?” Peter was GRIEVED BECAUSE He said to him the third time, “Do you love Me?” And he said to Him, “Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You.” Jesus said to him, “Tend My sheep."

It used to be a time when i was kid, and ate a lot junk or or sour unripe green Apples, Vomiting had to take place, and strong Laxatives had to take place. You had to be clean out!

Sounds to me like some people need to be clean out! And A Good enema, flush out with pure water, Unadulterated , that comes from a "ROCK".
And a real "fast".

A fast from "Institutional Church" activities All. And tell that "Pastor" good bye! And you and your Husband, "Quarantine" yourselves, and begin from the front of Your "BIBLES" and begin to read from front to back of it. Read, and do no teaching or explaining the text to one another and absolutely no study Bible, And if you can get a "NIV" copyright 1984 or pre copyright of that date, Preferably if you can find 2 used a "Thompson Chain Reference Bible" NIV used. Bye it. And wash your souls out, with the "WORD of GOD". And kiss your worshipping leadership ministry down the Drain. and sing together, you and your Husband together and "Come out from among them" And Make "JESUS CHRIST" the Center of your life" and do not be "Tempted" to go back to "SODOM and Gomorrah" and lone for The "Delicacies of Egypt". Sit down at your own table. Until The Father and The Son come in and dine at your table in your House! And if you do it right, They will come in. And they will not come into a unclean Temple! Sweep it out! And if you are in doubt about something, clean it out!

If these words are to harsh for you, and you think they are "Foolishness", they are. You make cast them aside. [991/2 will not do]. "The Cost of DISCIPLESHIP"

Either you are in or out! Jesus did not give his life and die on a cross, so you can serve a "Church" and follow a man.

Woman the only man GOD has commanded you to follow and obey, That man is your husband.
Man the person GOD has commanded you to obey is IN "the person of JESUS CHRIST" and Jesus has never told any body to obey a church or go to one!

Be the person that GOD created you to be. And Stand on The ROCK and do not move. And let The Whole WORD of THE LIVING GOD DWELL Rich in you Both!

(991/2 is not going to do! The only counsel you need is READING The Complete WORD of GOD, beginning from the front to the back and you don't need a "BIBLE" class. For JESUS and The FATHER and The HOLY GHOST, is enough. If it takes more than that, you don't need it! In this day and time.

And do not Cheat! For GOD the FATHER do not like cheaters! For Cheaters are "DECEIVERS" And you do not have to tell those pastors why! You just say BYE! for Your HUSBAND is the Pastor of Your home. and GOD has put Him as Your leader. And you turn around and walk out the door. And you two pick that "BOOK" up and let it become "The LOVE" of Your LIFE" put your arms around it and do not turn it loose. For your Life depends on it.

Do not engage, with unscrupulous leaders, Wait until, you have become skilled in Your own Bible. and After it is DWELLING RICH in you and it has become apart of your being. And do not seek out leaders, But read your BOOK! And not what others have said about "The BOOK".

You got a "Priest" and he is sitting right next to The FATHER! Spend the time in your BIBLE! Hours at a time, maybe all night long! Do you think it is going to do you harm. to study until The SUN come up? Do you think spending the time in church building do you more good that spending the time in your BIBLE?
And if you have to thing to long , something is wrong.

You cried out for help and i answered the call. I waited for others, to feed you. Now you choose the meal. Since many believe we have a "freewill" now choose the meal you want. Now there used to be a day they coined a term> "Tough Love for Tough Times" And I am old school!

(Jeremiah 6)BSB
"This is what the LORD says: “Stand at the crossroads and look.Ask for the ancient paths: ‘Where is the good way?’ Then walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls. But they said, ‘We will not walk in it!’..I appointed watchmen over you and said, ‘Listen for the sound of the ram’s horn.’ But they answered, ‘We will not listen!’"

 

[Amooer]

My stressed sister in Christ! I am 63 years old and I have been in Christ for over 40 years. My church mother "mentors" were the ones that taught me, by example, to "try all spirits" because not everyone in the congregation is in the Body of Christ. The joy of the Lord is our strength. The enemy seems to have weakened you by taking your joy. I, too, had a friend that I wanted to please by embracing Jewish traditions and rituals. I was exhausted and spending money on unnecessary stuff. Once I was no longer letting them have input on my life: they walked away from our friendship. Ahhhhhh, sweet freedom! It's okay to respect the Jewish history of the roots of the tree that we are grafted onto, but we must adhere to the pleadings of the Holy Spirit's teaching us to be more like Jesus Christ- the Prince of Peace. Amen? And, HE did HIS Father's work....EVEN ON THE SABBATH which angered the religious leaders. His wisdom is best described in James 3:17...pure...peace-loving....considerate...submissive...etc. Enjoy your salvation...enjoy your family mealtimes and be grateful for the food provided because NONE OF IT IS UNCLEAN FOR THOSE IN CHRIST! And, when you go into your prayer closet, bless our Father with love songs, hymns, and your favorite worship songs....with humility tell Him ALL that is in your heart AND listen to what HE shares with you. And, dear sister, no more comparing your spiritual "level" with other members. Just enjoy the fellowship, Amen? We ALL need to be as children in our faith but as comrades in our battles against our real enemy: the devil. Amen? Be encouraged!

I’m sorry that I didn’t see your reply until today, but what a blessing! Thank you so much When I am given the opportunity to sit and read these replies to me, I do take them to heart and read the scriptures pointed out to me, and think and pray on them. The time taken to read all that I wrote, with my mind in chaos at the time... which has begun to calm down because of the solid and caring replies from all of you who took the time to also write back to me, I do not take it for granted. It means a lot to me. And yes! Amen to all of that!