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In the "About" part of your profile it asks if you have been born again. You answered "Not sure yet". What were you expecting to feel, read, reason out, so you can know? Maybe you don't know what being "born again" or "born anew" or "born from above" mean. Think on this passage and ask God to open your heart to understand it:
"But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become children of God, who were born, not of blood or of the will of the flesh or of the will of man, but of God." (John 1:12-13 NRSV)
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Did you just reject your Calvinism?Hello Joe, I can see you read my Profile. I think that is important when reading posts, so you know what the person's theological viewpoint is. Calvinism, often represented by the Five Points coming out of the Synod of Dort, a church conference of 1618-1619. But to put it simply, Calvinism is the gospel, which means good news, that is found in the Bible. I did a post about the five points known by the acronym TULIP. I'll quote that post for you here.
Total Depravity being Total Inability
"as it is written: 'There is no one who is righteous, not even one; there is no one who has understanding; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; there is no one who shows kindness; there is not even one.'” Rom 3:10-12 NRSVue
"You were dead through the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work among those who are disobedient. All of us once lived among them in the passions of our flesh, doing the will of flesh and senses, and we were by nature children of wrath, like everyone else," Eph 2:1-3 NRSVue
"The heart is devious above all else; it is perverse— who can understand it?" Jer 17:9 NRSVue
Unconditional Election
"who saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works but according to his own purpose and grace, and this grace was given to us in Christ Jesus before the ages began," 2Ti 1:9 NRSVue
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, just as he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless before him in love. He destined us for adoption as his children through Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace that he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved." Eph 1:3-6 NRSVue *He chose us "to be holy and blameless, not because we were somehow already so.
"and all the inhabitants of the earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that was slaughtered." Rev 13:8 NRSVue
Limited Atonement, being a Particular Redemption and Definite Atonement
"They sing a new song: “You are worthy to take the scroll and to break its seals, for you were slaughtered and by your blood you ransomed for God saints from every tribe and language and people and nation;" Rev 5:9 NRSVue
"It is these who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are virgins; these follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They have been redeemed from humankind as first fruits for God and the Lamb" Rev 14:4 NRSVue
"I am the good shepherd. I know my own, and my own know me, just as the Father knows me, and I know the Father. And I lay down my life for the sheep." Joh 10:14-15 NRSVue
Irresistible or Efficacious Grace
"Everything that the Father gives me will come to me, and anyone who comes to me I will never drive away," Joh 6:37 NRSVue
"When the gentiles heard this, they were glad and praised the word of the Lord, and as many as had been destined for eternal life became believers." Act 13:48 NRSVue
"Therefore, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed me, not only in my presence but much more now in my absence, work on your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who is at work in you, enabling you both to will and to work for his good pleasure." Php 2:12-13 NRSVue
Perseverance of the Saints
"My sheep hear my voice. I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one will snatch them out of my hand." Joh 10:27-28 NRSVue *If one can lose their eternal life, it was not eternal
"Now to him who is able to keep you from falling and to make you stand without blemish in the presence of his glory with rejoicing, to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, power, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen." Jud 1:24-25 NRSVue
"May the God of peace himself sanctify you entirely, and may your spirit and soul and body be kept sound and blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. The one who calls you is faithful, and he will do this." 1Th 5:23-24 NRSVue
For a 'baker's dozen', I'll add a couple of overall passages -
"Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the exiles of the dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, who have been chosen and destined by God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit to be obedient to Jesus Christ and to be sprinkled with his blood: May grace and peace be yours in abundance." 1Pe 1:1-2 NRSVue
"For God has destined us not for wrath but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep we may live with him." 1Th 5:9-10 NRSVue
Total Depravity being Total Inability
"as it is written: 'There is no one who is righteous, not even one; there is no one who has understanding; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; there is no one who shows kindness; there is not even one.'” Rom 3:10-12 NRSVue
"You were dead through the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work among those who are disobedient. All of us once lived among them in the passions of our flesh, doing the will of flesh and senses, and we were by nature children of wrath, like everyone else," Eph 2:1-3 NRSVue
"The heart is devious above all else; it is perverse— who can understand it?" Jer 17:9 NRSVue
Unconditional Election
"who saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works but according to his own purpose and grace, and this grace was given to us in Christ Jesus before the ages began," 2Ti 1:9 NRSVue
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, just as he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless before him in love. He destined us for adoption as his children through Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace that he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved." Eph 1:3-6 NRSVue *He chose us "to be holy and blameless, not because we were somehow already so.
"and all the inhabitants of the earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that was slaughtered." Rev 13:8 NRSVue
Limited Atonement, being a Particular Redemption and Definite Atonement
"They sing a new song: “You are worthy to take the scroll and to break its seals, for you were slaughtered and by your blood you ransomed for God saints from every tribe and language and people and nation;" Rev 5:9 NRSVue
"It is these who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are virgins; these follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They have been redeemed from humankind as first fruits for God and the Lamb" Rev 14:4 NRSVue
"I am the good shepherd. I know my own, and my own know me, just as the Father knows me, and I know the Father. And I lay down my life for the sheep." Joh 10:14-15 NRSVue
Irresistible or Efficacious Grace
"Everything that the Father gives me will come to me, and anyone who comes to me I will never drive away," Joh 6:37 NRSVue
"When the gentiles heard this, they were glad and praised the word of the Lord, and as many as had been destined for eternal life became believers." Act 13:48 NRSVue
"Therefore, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed me, not only in my presence but much more now in my absence, work on your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who is at work in you, enabling you both to will and to work for his good pleasure." Php 2:12-13 NRSVue
Perseverance of the Saints
"My sheep hear my voice. I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one will snatch them out of my hand." Joh 10:27-28 NRSVue *If one can lose their eternal life, it was not eternal
"Now to him who is able to keep you from falling and to make you stand without blemish in the presence of his glory with rejoicing, to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, power, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen." Jud 1:24-25 NRSVue
"May the God of peace himself sanctify you entirely, and may your spirit and soul and body be kept sound and blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. The one who calls you is faithful, and he will do this." 1Th 5:23-24 NRSVue
For a 'baker's dozen', I'll add a couple of overall passages -
"Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the exiles of the dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, who have been chosen and destined by God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit to be obedient to Jesus Christ and to be sprinkled with his blood: May grace and peace be yours in abundance." 1Pe 1:1-2 NRSVue
"For God has destined us not for wrath but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep we may live with him." 1Th 5:9-10 NRSVue
Calvinism points out that man is so dead in sin, unless God saves him 100% by grace through faith alone, he will be eternally lost. Salvation of man is all of grace. Man only believes when he is given the grace of faith, and that comes out of being born from above by God.
