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Is it possible to be part of the voting to put a man in charge n claim your not of the world?

Is it possible being apart of voting to put a man in charge and then state one puts Their trust in YH?

and in the morning, ‘It will be foul weather today, for the sky is red and threatening.’ Hypocrites! You know how to discern the face of the sky, but you cannot discern the signs of the times

I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world

Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect

We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem a horrible thing: They commit adultery and walk in lies; they :eyes: strengthen :eyes: also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness. They are all of them unto Me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.”

And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace,

And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.




[4] And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
[5] For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
[6] Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.



Twistie :broken_heart:
 
Is it possible to be part of the voting to put a man in charge n claim your not of the world?

Is it possible being apart of voting to put a man in charge and then state one puts Their trust in YH?
When elections come up, people usually choose between the “lesser of two evils.” But we have to remember that there is no such thing as the lesser of two evils. Evil is evil, and there are no degrees of evil (James 2:10). So, whoever came up with that phrase, “the lesser of two evils” is a liar. And, when you do vote, you are not voting for the lesser of two evils, they admit that you are voting for evil.

It doesn't matter what promises anybody makes, they never keep them anyway. But what spirit are they of? Are they of Christ or are they anti-Christ? That's all we have to look at.

Why is it evil to elect men? Well, it's because you are electing men to rule over you. Similarly to what happened to Israel when they went to Samuel and told him they wanted to be ruled by men, like other nations (1 Samuel 8:4), and God said to Samuel, "they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them” (1 Samuel 8:7). Therefore, if we would vote to have men rule over us, when we have the offer of the Kingdom of God to rule over our hearts and minds (Philippians 4:7), we are rejecting God's rule over us.

There is nothing new under the sun (Ecclesiastes 1:9). This has to do with voluntary servitude. If you turn your back on God you become servants to men. When you go out and vote, you are saying, “I am a servant of men and I want these men to rule over me.” You are putting men in the place of God, and that's a usurpation of God and it's also idolatry. And if you're looking to men, God is not sufficient.

And you know, God has already given us a King (Acts 17:7). God did not leave anyone here to rule over us. Actually, Christ refused to set up a worldly kingdom. That was one of the temptations Jesus was tempted with in the wilderness. The Devil showed him “all the kingdoms of the world” (Matthew 4:8), and that must have been one of the greatest temptations that Christ was faced with, to set up a kingdom and rule the earth. I mean, just think of all the good he could have done!

And that's the kind of temptation that men think, when they say, “if only we could get a good man into power.” But, it's never going to happen because power corrupts, and another reason is the heart of man is evil (Genesis 6:5; 8:21, Ecclesiastes 8:11, Jeremiah 17:9). And you're pretty much at their mercy once you've given them approval.

The State is set in place for dishing out privileges. They claim to serve the public, but at the same time they don't freely give anything. There's a duty attached to everything, and that's not the way that we're supposed to give. We're not going to change anything by voting the right people in government, because even if we got the right people in, it still wouldn't change the heart of the people. It's the heart of the people that needs to be changed on an individual basis. We, individually, need to turn our lives over to the King of kings. Voting is not going to do any good, and people are beginning to realize that. That's why the voter turnout is so bad, and people are fed up with the fact that they can't change anything.

And the system is so corrupt that vote scam is so blatantly out in the open, and most people know that “the people” don't vote, and politicians get elected by those behind the scenes. Prior to the Civil was, there were no secret ballots, everyone voted in the open. The word “ballot” comes from “ball lot,” they cast their lot with either a white ball or a black ball (that's where the term “blackballed” comes from). But, with secret voting, the so-called powers that be can manipulate that vote any way they like, and that's why they keep their own people in power. And of course it's even better for them now with computers. The secret ballot originally came from Australia:

Australian Ballot: A system of secret voting whereby the voter indicates his choice of the candidates who have been nominated by a mark alongside the name of the candidate thus chosen. The system originates in Australia, whence its name. Rayden's Law Dictionary, 1954.

And that's why, today, we have no idea whether the actual vote count is true or not. All of the voting laws stem from the Reconstruction Acts after the Civil War. They passed a Voting Act in 1865-1866. Voting is an “elective franchise” and it is a “privilege” granted by the State. The word “privilege” comes from the Latin “privus” and “legis, and that means private law. So when you receive any kind of privilege from government, you are engaging in a private law, the law of the law merchant. That's what all the government officials are for, for this corporate government, which exists for business, for the economy. And the word economy is just another word for mammon (Luke 6:9-13). So you're electing those to give you all the privileges of the wealth of the world. To a large extent it's socialistic. But when you're engaged in a private law, you're not involved in the Law of God, which is NOT private law. You turn your back on God when you look to those things.

When you look at the definition of “bribe” we always think of a bribe to a government official as the only kind of bribe there is. But what about when they make all these promises of what they're going to do for you and everything if you'll vote for them, that's really a bribe also. And I think everyone should consider that. When politicians make all kinds of promises, they're saying, “I'll do this for you if you vote for me.” That's the same thing as a bribe.

Bribe: “Anything of value, any gift, advantage or emolument, any price, reward or favor. Any money, goods, right in action, property, thing in value, or any preferment, advantage, privilege or emolument, or any promise or undertaking to give any asked, given or accepted, with a corrupt intent to induce or influence action, vote, or opinion, or person in any public or official capacity. It is a gift not necessarily for pecuniary value bestowed to influence the conduct of the receiver and must be of substantial value to him.” Black's Law Dictionary.

So what you see is when these politicians make all these promises, they are really bribing you for your vote.

"Bribery: A candidate for a judgeship who pledges himself, if elected, to serve at a less salary than that provided by law, virtually bribes the masses to vote for him." A Dictionary of Law, William C. Anderson, page 136.

And once the vote is cast, then they break their promises all the time. So, they're actually offering a bribe, and not necessarily coming up with it.

“Every people looks primarily to its own benefit...Every government is organized selfishness. It is constituted for the food of its constituents. The Preamble of the Constitution of the United States of America embodies this explicitly as the object of its adoption. It is the embodiment of a scheme, devised by the people of the United States to form a more perfect union of states then imperfectly united, to establish justice among themselves, to insure their domestic tranquility, to provide for their own defense, to promote their general welfare and to secure the blessings of liberty, not to the world at large, but to themselves and their prosperity.” (A Yale Law Review from 8 Yale Law 159, page 165, which is from a book called The People Of The United States, Simeon E. Baldwin, 1899).

This fellow was a lawyer, so they know what government is all about, and its all for the benefit of the people. We don't find Christ there, it's men ruling other men, giving benefits to one another. And when the natural man gives a benefit to you, there's a duty attached to it. There's no “freely” giving (Matthew 10:8) and expecting nothing in return, as scripture tells us. We are not to touch the unclean thing (2 Corinthians 6:17), and when you vote and become a beneficiary of the franchise, you are joining yourself to the unclean. And we have to take those things into consideration.

Every man believes he has a right in the outcome of the destiny of society. This is a myth. If God directs men to move in a way that's led by God, then no vote can change the Will of God. The “voter registration” is secular man's faulty reasoning that he, in and of himself, can save all, if you just give him enough power, more money, more…more…more…and still more. As soon as you put your “X” on that thing that votes for that politician, you become part of the world, you voted to be ordered around. The politician needs your consent to crack a whip over your head, make you feel like the animal that you have partaken of. You are now part of the zoo of humanity.

Bondmen of Christ cannot vote because that would be violence or force. We are not into using force, you cannot force the Kingdom of God, you cannot force people to love, you cannot force your love on others, you cannot force people to be free, because that requires violence to enforce it. And "the weapons of our warfare are not carnal" (2 Corinthians 10:4).

In the Old Testament, the people "voted" to kill Joshua and Caleb (Numbers 14:10). Right after they voted, God said, "...How long will this people provoke me? ...I will smite them with the pestilence, and disinherit them," (Numbers 14:11-12), but Moses asked for mercy and God pardoned their evil ways. In the New Testament, during the trial of Christ Jesus, Pontius Pilate let the people "vote" between Barabbas and Jesus as to who they wanted set free (Matthew 27:17). The Pharisees whispered lies in the people's ears so they would vote the way they wanted them to vote. This "voting privilege" allowed Jesus to be crucified!

By receiving a privilege or benefit from the government, we are gaining the favor of rulers; but scripture says, "Many wait on the favor of rulers; but justice comes to a man from the LORD" (Proverbs 29:26). In other words, those who look to the favor of governments will not really get justice, which is one reason why many people complain there is no justice in today's courts, no matter WHO they vote for. Why? Because voting does not bring about justice, in brings about injustice! Why does in bring about injustice? Because people do not "vote" to do God's Will, they "vote" to have people do their own will, for selfish reasons, and the consequences of selfishness is always injustice.

In conclusion, voting is very unscriptural.
 
Greetings in the Lord
2 Tim 2:4
No man can serve two masters: for either he. will hate the one, and love the other; or else. he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon

Twistie
 
The scriptures, popularly, misnamed the books of the Bible, have been made easy to tarnish and misconstrue by modern man. The Renewed Covenant is misnamed The New Testament and is often presented as a replacement for the Jewish recorded Scriptures. Reading all of the Letters Yahova has commissioned without the man-adorned chapters and verses reveals the truth of Yahova's Truth for us to live by. Taking the Holy Scriptures as The Collection of Yahova's Collected Letters To Mankind, without chapter and/or verse reveals that the scriptures can never be understood in part because no single and, no partial phrase without the light of all other scripture shining on it. And that light is not turned on without the Indwelling of Ruah, the Holy Spirit. Yahova/Yashua intends that we be involved in all forms of living... even governing.
 
The scriptures, popularly, misnamed the books of the Bible, have been made easy to tarnish and misconstrue by modern man. The Renewed Covenant is misnamed The New Testament and is often presented as a replacement for the Jewish recorded Scriptures. Reading all of the Letters Yahova has commissioned without the man-adorned chapters and verses reveals the truth of Yahova's Truth for us to live by. Taking the Holy Scriptures as The Collection of Yahova's Collected Letters To Mankind, without chapter and/or verse reveals that the scriptures can never be understood in part because no single and, no partial phrase without the light of all other scripture shining on it. And that light is not turned on without the Indwelling of Ruah, the Holy Spirit. Yahova/Yashua intends that we be involved in all forms of living... even governing.
I only know what I hear...

YH Is Spirit everything is under His control all is written I don't debate with man.. it makes no sense to debate n argue it is senseless n just leads into all kinds of sin to b honest..we r not to do that.. all is written i do not turn left nor right keep my thoughts on YH n YH alone He is all i have..

I serve YH n YH alone.. I made my choice..He has brought me into His rest n it was nothing on my part that's for sure..I've don't great harm to others n much hurt to Abba...

I'm not saying I am not a where of what is going on in the world but I am by no means swimming n joining in on their events...

Now therefore, behold, the Lord is about to bring on them the strong and abundant waters of the Euphrates,
Even the king of Assyria and all his glory;
And it will rise up over all its channels and go over all its banks.
“Then it will sweep on into Judah, it will overflow and pass through,
It will reach even to the neck;
And the spread of its wings will fill the breadth of your land, O Immanuel. “Be broken, O peoples, and be shattered;
And give ear, all remote places of the earth.
Gird yourselves, yet be shattered;
Gird yourselves, yet be shattered.
Devise a plan, but it will be thwarted;
State a proposal, but it will not stand,
For God is with us.”


Twistie
 
Is it possible to be part of the voting to put a man in charge n claim your not of the world?
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.
Rom 13:2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same.
Rom 13:4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.

Human Governments:

1. They were instituted by God (Gen 9:1-7; Rom 13:1-6; 1Pe 2:13-17).

2. Their purpose was to execute criminals and enforce law and order among people (Rom 13:1-6; 1Pe 2:13-17; Gen 9:6; Isa 11:4-9; Isa 65:20; Dan 2:21; Dan 4:17-25; Dan 5:21).

3. It is the duty of Christians and others to help establish and support human government for the preservation of society and promotion of the highest good of man (Rom 13:1; 1Pe 2:13-17).

4. Governments were instituted to govern by force and to punish, not only local and individual criminals but also universal and national criminals. This includes execution of war to put down criminal nations as well as criminal individuals (Rom 13:1-5; 1Pe 2:13-17; Dan 2:21; Dan 4:17-25; Dan 5:21).

5. Christians are not to leave popular government up to the ungodly. To neglect good government is to neglect the salvation of souls. Promotion of public and private good is one of the greatest means of saving souls (Rom 13:1-6; 1Ti 1:8-10). Christians should vote and enter public life to promote good government so that the gospel will not be hindered and stamped out. Both reason and experience, as well as the Bible make this obligatory upon all. Since government is necessary for the best good of all, it is the duty of every Christian to help bring about the best government to secure this end.

6. Human governments, therefore, are not founded upon the arbitrary will of God, but upon the needs of humanity in securing their highest good. If in a small family, law and penalties are needed, how much more are they needed in communities, states, and nations. If government needs reforming, then let the Christians bring about such reforms. If they require nothing contrary to God, moral obligation, and the conscience, and if they meet the needs of those governed, they should be perpetuated (Rom 13:1-6).

7. Upon the grounds of the best public interest, it becomes the duty of human governments to use all necessary means to attain this end. It is absurd to believe that rulers have the right to govern and not the right to use the necessary means to carry on good government. Such error or belief causes many Christians to object to the right of capital punishment, the right to deal with mobs, to suppress rebellions, and to make wars on criminal nations. When a person sells himself to destroy the best good of others, it becomes necessary to take him from the society he seeks to destroy. In such cases it becomes necessary to deal with individuals, and nations to enforce law and order for the best good of all. It must be both the right and the duty of government and all its subjects to use every necessary and possible means to suppress rebellion and enforce respect for law and order. Rulers are God’s ministers to execute God’s wrath upon the ungodly and preserve moral law and government for the good of all (Rom 13:1-6; 1Pe 2:13-17).
 
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.
Rom 13:2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same.
Rom 13:4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.

Human Governments:

1. They were instituted by God (Gen 9:1-7; Rom 13:1-6; 1Pe 2:13-17).

2. Their purpose was to execute criminals and enforce law and order among people (Rom 13:1-6; 1Pe 2:13-17; Gen 9:6; Isa 11:4-9; Isa 65:20; Dan 2:21; Dan 4:17-25; Dan 5:21).

3. It is the duty of Christians and others to help establish and support human government for the preservation of society and promotion of the highest good of man (Rom 13:1; 1Pe 2:13-17).

4. Governments were instituted to govern by force and to punish, not only local and individual criminals but also universal and national criminals. This includes execution of war to put down criminal nations as well as criminal individuals (Rom 13:1-5; 1Pe 2:13-17; Dan 2:21; Dan 4:17-25; Dan 5:21).

5. Christians are not to leave popular government up to the ungodly. To neglect good government is to neglect the salvation of souls. Promotion of public and private good is one of the greatest means of saving souls (Rom 13:1-6; 1Ti 1:8-10). Christians should vote and enter public life to promote good government so that the gospel will not be hindered and stamped out. Both reason and experience, as well as the Bible make this obligatory upon all. Since government is necessary for the best good of all, it is the duty of every Christian to help bring about the best government to secure this end.

6. Human governments, therefore, are not founded upon the arbitrary will of God, but upon the needs of humanity in securing their highest good. If in a small family, law and penalties are needed, how much more are they needed in communities, states, and nations. If government needs reforming, then let the Christians bring about such reforms. If they require nothing contrary to God, moral obligation, and the conscience, and if they meet the needs of those governed, they should be perpetuated (Rom 13:1-6).

7. Upon the grounds of the best public interest, it becomes the duty of human governments to use all necessary means to attain this end. It is absurd to believe that rulers have the right to govern and not the right to use the necessary means to carry on good government. Such error or belief causes many Christians to object to the right of capital punishment, the right to deal with mobs, to suppress rebellions, and to make wars on criminal nations. When a person sells himself to destroy the best good of others, it becomes necessary to take him from the society he seeks to destroy. In such cases it becomes necessary to deal with individuals, and nations to enforce law and order for the best good of all. It must be both the right and the duty of government and all its subjects to use every necessary and possible means to suppress rebellion and enforce respect for law and order. Rulers are God’s ministers to execute God’s wrath upon the ungodly and preserve moral law and government for the good of all (Rom 13:1-6; 1Pe 2:13-17).
He doesn't tell us to go vote for for many to be in charge.. wonder how many times the Messiah went to the polls? Or to vote..
I have a king who is charge of all I chose my King n He is not of flesh n blood.. cursed be the man who depends on the flesh.. all is written you can choose to follow man or YH..
Many claim to believe in God just many don't believe what God says two different things..
God don't need man to help Him it's God alone who raises kings n n bring them low..
6But when they said, “Give us a king to judge us,” their demand was displeasing in the sight of Samuel; so he prayed to the LORD.

7And the LORD said to Samuel, “Listen to the voice of the people in all that they say to you. For it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected Me as their king. 8Just as they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking Me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. 9Now listen to them, but you must solemnly warn them and show them the manner of the king who will reign over them.”

Can't serve two masters


Twistie
 
He doesn't tell us to go vote for for many to be in charge.. wonder how many times the Messiah went to the polls? Or to vote..
I have a king who is charge of all I chose my King n He is not of flesh n blood.. cursed be the man who depends on the flesh.. all is written you can choose to follow man or YH..
Many claim to believe in God just many don't believe what God says two different things..
God don't need man to help Him it's God alone who raises kings n n bring them low..
6But when they said, “Give us a king to judge us,” their demand was displeasing in the sight of Samuel; so he prayed to the LORD.

7And the LORD said to Samuel, “Listen to the voice of the people in all that they say to you. For it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected Me as their king. 8Just as they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking Me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. 9Now listen to them, but you must solemnly warn them and show them the manner of the king who will reign over them.”

Can't serve two masters


Twistie

I did not write Romans 13. The Word speaks for its self. you either choose to believe what says or not.

Jesus said…..


Mat 22:17 Tell us then what You think about this: Is it lawful to pay tribute [levied on individuals and to be paid yearly] to Caesar or not?
Mat 22:18 But Jesus, aware of their malicious plot, asked, Why do you put Me to the test and try to entrap Me, you pretenders (hypocrites)?
Mat 22:19 Show me the money used for the tribute. And they brought Him a denarius.
Mat 22:20 And Jesus said to them, Whose likeness and title are these?
Mat 22:21 They said, Caesar's. Then He said to them, Pay therefore to Caesar the things that are due to Caesar, and pay to God the things that are due to God.


1Pe 2:13 Be submissive to every human institution and authority for the sake of the Lord, whether it be to the emperor as supreme,
1Pe 2:14 Or to governors as sent by him to bring vengeance (punishment, justice) to those who do wrong and to encourage those who do good service.
1Pe 2:15 For it is God's will and intention that by doing right [your good and honest lives] should silence (muzzle, gag) the ignorant charges and ill-informed criticisms of foolish persons.

Jesus taught both obedience to Roman laws and God’s ,s laws.
 
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He doesn't tell us to go vote for for many to be in charge.
1Sa 12:13 All right, here is the king you have chosen. You asked for him, and the LORD has granted your request.
1Sa 12:14 “Now if you fear and worship the LORD and listen to his voice, and if you do not rebel against the LORD’s commands, then both you and your king will show that you recognize the LORD as your God.
1Sa 12:15 But if you rebel against the LORD’s commands and refuse to listen to him, then his hand will be as heavy upon you as it was upon your ancestors.

Obedience to God's laws first before obedience to man's laws. Make no mistake that a little leven levens the whole batch. Remember Noah and the cities of Sodom and Gamora.
 
I did not write Romans 13. The Word speaks for its self. you either choose to believe what says or not.

Jesus said…..


Mat 22:17 Tell us then what You think about this: Is it lawful to pay tribute [levied on individuals and to be paid yearly] to Caesar or not?
Mat 22:18 But Jesus, aware of their malicious plot, asked, Why do you put Me to the test and try to entrap Me, you pretenders (hypocrites)?
Mat 22:19 Show me the money used for the tribute. And they brought Him a denarius.
Mat 22:20 And Jesus said to them, Whose likeness and title are these?
Mat 22:21 They said, Caesar's. Then He said to them, Pay therefore to Caesar the things that are due to Caesar, and pay to God the things that are due to God.


1Pe 2:13 Be submissive to every human institution and authority for the sake of the Lord, whether it be to the emperor as supreme,
1Pe 2:14 Or to governors as sent by him to bring vengeance (punishment, justice) to those who do wrong and to encourage those who do good service.
1Pe 2:15 For it is God's will and intention that by doing right [your good and honest lives] should silence (muzzle, gag) the ignorant charges and ill-informed criticisms of foolish persons.

Jesus taught both obedience to Roman laws and God’s ,s laws.
You make no sense in telling me how Yeshua commands me to pick a dude to rule ova a country.. y'all christian trip me out telling me I gotta choose one evil over another evil.. you need to start drinking from ur own cistern frfr..
You put ur mind on the flesh u strengthen the hands of evil doers.. I wasn't created for that .
Perhaps u r but I am not my only King is He whom is Ancient before days.. u may not think He puts up Man in power n brings them down but I Know He does.. I Have chosen my Master.. question is who's your??...

He told me n They better be careful who their master is n I now totally get What He was Showing n Telling me..

YHs Law don't tell His children to vote..
Smh

Twistie
 
I only know what I hear...

YH Is Spirit everything is under His control all is written I don't debate with man.. it makes no sense to debate n argue it is senseless n just leads into all kinds of sin to b honest..we r not to do that.. all is written i do not turn left nor right keep my thoughts on YH n YH alone He is all i have..

I serve YH n YH alone.. I made my choice..He has brought me into His rest n it was nothing on my part that's for sure..I've don't great harm to others n much hurt to Abba...

I'm not saying I am not a where of what is going on in the world but I am by no means swimming n joining in on their events...

Now therefore, behold, the Lord is about to bring on them the strong and abundant waters of the Euphrates,
Even the king of Assyria and all his glory;
And it will rise up over all its channels and go over all its banks.
“Then it will sweep on into Judah, it will overflow and pass through,
It will reach even to the neck;
And the spread of its wings will fill the breadth of your land, O Immanuel. “Be broken, O peoples, and be shattered;
And give ear, all remote places of the earth.
Gird yourselves, yet be shattered;
Gird yourselves, yet be shattered.
Devise a plan, but it will be thwarted;
State a proposal, but it will not stand,
For God is with us.”


Twistie
If you only know what you hear you are, at best, ill-informed. Yahova has written 66 letters to you and if you are indwelt with Ruah they make perfect sense.
 
If you only know what you hear you are, at best, ill-informed. Yahova has written 66 letters to you and if you are indwelt with Ruah they make perfect sense.
So says you.. I know who I am.. I know my God is not of the dead and I know He don't need man.. perhaps urs does Mines does not..
Tell me again where the Messiah joined in the voting to put the lesser evil in charge?? Tell me where Abba tells His children to trust in man n not in Him..
Why would YHs children vote for a man to help run the world.. His children are not of this world
If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you.
If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.
Remember the word that I said to you, `A servant is not greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you; if they kept my word, they will keep yours also.

The Messiah said Follow me not follow me n do what I didn't do..

Like I said perhaps u were created to vote.. I was created to Worship YH n to put all my trust and faith in Him that He will do what must be done..

Twistie
 
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So says you.. I know who I am.. I know my God is not of the dead and I know He don't need man.. perhaps urs does Mines does not..
Tell me again where the Messiah joined in the voting to put the lesser evil in charge?? Tell me where Abba tells His children to trust in man n not in Him..
Why would YHs children vote for a man to help run the world.. His children are not of this world
If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you.
If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.
Remember the word that I said to you, `A servant is not greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you; if they kept my word, they will keep yours also.

The Messiah said Follow me not follow me n do what I didn't do..

Like I said perhaps u were created to vote.. I was created to Worship YH n to put all my trust and faith in Him that He will do what must be done..

Twistie
Building strawmen in any form is childish and your questions are strawman questions. Engage me intelligently and not to pick a fight and we can converse.
 
Greetings,

I'm closing the thread before anyone gets cranky and messes up the testimony they sincerely prefer to give of the Lord we serve.

Jesus is the Lord


Bless you all ....><>
 
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