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Did you know that Joels army of locusts, is in the book of revelation?
well its really Gods army... but spoken of by the prophet Joel.
Did you know that the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are also
mentioned in the Old Testament? as well as the two witnesses of the
book of revelation, along with the woman and manchild of revelation
chapter 12, plus we also know that the prophet Daniel speaks of the
Antichrist as well, from the Old testament.
Thats why i stress for anyone who studys the book of revelation to look
for its interpretation... or some of its interpretation, from the Old testament prophets.
How would we know that Christ was, who he said he was, without the Old
testament prophets? We woudn't, but that is how most of this book is
being interpreted today, with the wisdom of men, and private
interpretation of these events... (ie nuclear bombs, planes, and helicopters, mans armys, mans inventions, putting a limit on the power of God.
God doesnt need mans inventions to fulfill his word, or do miracles, he proved that with the prophet Moses. And yes, there will be a mans army, but it will be destroyed at the Battle of Armageddon.
The first army in the book of revelation is the one that the prophet Joel spoke of...and it is debatable if its a human army...according to Joel and revelation, this army could very well not be an army of humans, but rather a fearfull sight for men, Christ said that there would be fearfull sights at that time.
One real well known bible prophecy teacher, wont bother to mention his
name, said that Saddam Hussein was likely the Antichrist, because his name means the destroyer, he also went as far as saying, that the Chernobyl accident
was the wormwood star that was to fall and make the water bitter... an so
on, all nonsence.
The left behind books..and films, are also in question, at least with
me, i see a rapture but not according to, wont mention name... and
these books and films make millions. While they are rolling around in
their money, God will take a bum off the street, or babe ,and show us
real prophecy.
Jesus said this about the father, when he said you have hid these things from the wise and prudent, but have revealed them unto babes. He even thanked him for doing so. And so it pleases God to take the babes.. and reject the wise, if they get to highminded.
In order to understand most of these prophecies interpreters need to
look to the Old testament prophets, or we end up blind leading the
blind. I also believe God is going to use good saints all over the
world to get most of these prophecies understood according to the word.
Also scripture must be interpreted in its context always, with a small
little exception with prophecy, but not always... phophecy is not the
same as, or comes across the same as... word for word conversation.
A good example is King David in his Psalms... many times he is singing
to the lord about his problems or victorys, and all of a sudden he says
something that is not 100% about him, but about Christ...thats how the
gift of prophecy works. Like where he says in Psalms 22 they pierced my
hands and my feet, here King David is not really talking about himself
but prophecying about the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
Or where he says in the begining of Psalms 22 as well...My God My God
why have you forsaken me. Jesus Christ repeated this same
prophecy/saying... on the cross, more than likely for his followers to
see where it was prophecied.
Some bible teachers teach that God had forsaken Christ on the cross,
because he couldn't look at sin... and Christ became sin for us that
day, i dont really believe this, i believe he said this to show his
followers where this prophecy was spoken, or comeing from... as we also
see the piercing of the hands and feet in the same Psalm.
The saints must not lean to their own understanding, or what we have
been taught all this time... or the clincher of all, the interpretation
we like best!, that may or may not be true, if it walks like a duck,
talks like a duck, then it is probably a duck. We just need to look
closer, this way we can be sure its a duck.
Although many prophecies need to be fullfiled to understand them, we
can still have a good understanding of the ones that are not fullfilled
yet, and avoid total ignorance when it comes to bible prophecy.
God bless
well its really Gods army... but spoken of by the prophet Joel.
Did you know that the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are also
mentioned in the Old Testament? as well as the two witnesses of the
book of revelation, along with the woman and manchild of revelation
chapter 12, plus we also know that the prophet Daniel speaks of the
Antichrist as well, from the Old testament.
Thats why i stress for anyone who studys the book of revelation to look
for its interpretation... or some of its interpretation, from the Old testament prophets.
How would we know that Christ was, who he said he was, without the Old
testament prophets? We woudn't, but that is how most of this book is
being interpreted today, with the wisdom of men, and private
interpretation of these events... (ie nuclear bombs, planes, and helicopters, mans armys, mans inventions, putting a limit on the power of God.
God doesnt need mans inventions to fulfill his word, or do miracles, he proved that with the prophet Moses. And yes, there will be a mans army, but it will be destroyed at the Battle of Armageddon.
The first army in the book of revelation is the one that the prophet Joel spoke of...and it is debatable if its a human army...according to Joel and revelation, this army could very well not be an army of humans, but rather a fearfull sight for men, Christ said that there would be fearfull sights at that time.
One real well known bible prophecy teacher, wont bother to mention his
name, said that Saddam Hussein was likely the Antichrist, because his name means the destroyer, he also went as far as saying, that the Chernobyl accident
was the wormwood star that was to fall and make the water bitter... an so
on, all nonsence.
The left behind books..and films, are also in question, at least with
me, i see a rapture but not according to, wont mention name... and
these books and films make millions. While they are rolling around in
their money, God will take a bum off the street, or babe ,and show us
real prophecy.
Jesus said this about the father, when he said you have hid these things from the wise and prudent, but have revealed them unto babes. He even thanked him for doing so. And so it pleases God to take the babes.. and reject the wise, if they get to highminded.
In order to understand most of these prophecies interpreters need to
look to the Old testament prophets, or we end up blind leading the
blind. I also believe God is going to use good saints all over the
world to get most of these prophecies understood according to the word.
Also scripture must be interpreted in its context always, with a small
little exception with prophecy, but not always... phophecy is not the
same as, or comes across the same as... word for word conversation.
A good example is King David in his Psalms... many times he is singing
to the lord about his problems or victorys, and all of a sudden he says
something that is not 100% about him, but about Christ...thats how the
gift of prophecy works. Like where he says in Psalms 22 they pierced my
hands and my feet, here King David is not really talking about himself
but prophecying about the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
Or where he says in the begining of Psalms 22 as well...My God My God
why have you forsaken me. Jesus Christ repeated this same
prophecy/saying... on the cross, more than likely for his followers to
see where it was prophecied.
Some bible teachers teach that God had forsaken Christ on the cross,
because he couldn't look at sin... and Christ became sin for us that
day, i dont really believe this, i believe he said this to show his
followers where this prophecy was spoken, or comeing from... as we also
see the piercing of the hands and feet in the same Psalm.
The saints must not lean to their own understanding, or what we have
been taught all this time... or the clincher of all, the interpretation
we like best!, that may or may not be true, if it walks like a duck,
talks like a duck, then it is probably a duck. We just need to look
closer, this way we can be sure its a duck.
Although many prophecies need to be fullfiled to understand them, we
can still have a good understanding of the ones that are not fullfilled
yet, and avoid total ignorance when it comes to bible prophecy.
God bless
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