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Interpretation vs Revelation

Johanabrahams

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Our Brother Dylan, has a problem with Revelation. So I assume many have. They have just not voiced it yet.

Our heavenly Father Jehovah who became "Abba Father/Daddy" in Love in Jesus send His Kids and our Brothers with their Apostolic Gifts out to create Edifying Meetings in houses.

1 Cor. 14: 26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.

These meetings are the same as the Meetings Jehovah spoke about in Jesus.

Mat 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Thus we call the Meetings Jehovah Himself had in Jesus the Primary Meetings or the Goal. That is how He met in the world when He walked the earth in Jesus.

But to get to this goal you have to do the "secondary" meetings. This is what Jehovah had with His Disciples. To prepare them for His Life He Lived on earth. But of course the Satan has his meetings too. Where He is in charge with His laws and his characteristic of enjoying to be worshiped and thus brought in "worship" meetings of him and his "image of god".

Rev. 13:
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

All these "Synagogues of Satan" with the "son of perdition" ruling in them in the place of the Living God exists in the evil spirit of strife where they all stay "Babies in Carnality".

1 Cor 3: 1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. 2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. 3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? 4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? 5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

Thus very few entered their Gift from God where they discern the Word of God and don't interpret it. This is called Revelation. Or also our "Abba Father/Daddy Jehovah, teaching His Children Himself just as He did when He was in Jesus on the earth. And they learn to speak these Words which creates Life and are not for the mind to interpret. You can never interpret God's Words. Like His very first Words. "Let there be light". When you see these Words you can only believe them or reject them. And the same with the Gospel of Jehovah in Jesus. Which the "natural man" from the organizations can not understand.

1 Cor. 2: 4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The reason is of course that they are all "creations of Lucifer". Meaning existing in their minds and not the Holy Spirit of God.

John 8:
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
 
Our heavenly Father Jehovah who became "Abba Father/Daddy" in Love in Jesus send His Kids and our Brothers with their Apostolic Gifts out to create Edifying Meetings in houses.
Apostolic gifts. What's that .

Was the prophet Abel the first apostle martyr?

Edifying one's own self?
 
Was the prophet Abel the first apostle martyr?

martyr? yes.
prophet? no.
apostle? no.

He is not called a prophet or apostle in any of my Bibles. Apostles only exist in the New Testament in the age of the church.

Edifying one's own self?

That is the opposite of the purpose of the gifts.

1Cor 12:7 But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.

Not for the good of one, but for the "common" good of all.

1Cor 14:4 One who speaks in a tongue edifies himself; but one who prophesies edifies the church.

Doesn't edify himself, edifies the church.

1Cor 14:5 Now I wish that you all spoke in tongues, but even more that you would prophesy; and greater is one who prophesies than one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may receive edifying.

So that the church can receive edifying, not myself.

1Co 14:12 So also you, since you are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek to abound for the edification of the church.

It's OK to do some things, like thanking God. But that doesn't edify anyone else.

1Cor 14:17 For you are giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not edified.

1Cor 14:26 What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.
 
martyr? yes.
prophet? no.
apostle? no.

He is not called a prophet or apostle in any of my Bibles. Apostles only exist in the New Testament in the age of the church.



That is the opposite of the purpose of the gifts.
Hi Thanks

Believers must be careful how they hear who we say they do. Today many false apostles, false prophets as antichrists. . another teaching authority other than sola scriptura.

Apostle is one of a few words that should have been translated to English "sent messenger" Therefore not destroying the true meaning violating the law. Not to add new meaning to "one word"

changing the meaning of one can change the authority of all the commandments. warning to protect the integrity of Christ the other at the end of the book of law the Bible the warning is in respect to the whole sola scriptura. Both working as one law to protect the integrity of Christ

Deuteronomy 4:2Ye shall not add unto the word (singular)which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it,(singular) that ye may keep the commandments(plural) of the Lord your God which I command you.

The word apostle (sent messenger) the one with beautiful feet has been changed by those who must worship disembodied spirit god's, male and female as workers with familiar spirits identified as necromancy .some call patron saints

The kind King Josiah destroyed when finding the Bible and the living word moved him a work of Christ's faith as it is written

Because he obeyed sola scriptura he is accredited as the greatest king.

2 Kings 23:23-25;But in the eighteenth year of king Josiah, wherein this passover was holden to the Lord in Jerusalem.;Moreover the workers with familiar spirits, and the wizards, and the images, and the idols, and all the abominations that were spied in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, did Josiah put away, that he might perform the words of the law which were written in the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the Lord.;And like unto him was there no king before him, that turned to the Lord with all his heart, and with all his soul, and with all his might, according to all the law of Moses; neither after him arose there any like him.

Matthew 23:34-36Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

Abel the first apostles murdered by his brother Cain because Abel preached the good news . The first murder by the father of lies. Murdered the second born Abel to represent men must be born again of the spiritual seed Christ, replaced Abel with another second born Enos

Genesis 4:25-26And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.

Then and not before born again mankind could call on the name or power of the Lord

Passed down the second born again seed (Christ) 56 generation until the birth of the Son of man Jesus

Neither the word apostle nor mankind kind must be born again doctrine is limited to the New Testament church . Abel the first chaste virgin bride. Jesus the Son of man the last
 
Luke 11:50 so that the blood of all the prophets, shed from the foundation of the world, may be charged against this generation,
Luke 11:51 from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who perished between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, it will be required of this generation.

Jesus referred to Abel as a Prophet.
 
Revelation is God giving content to man. Interpretation is understanding the content given as revelation by God.
 
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