Isaiah 9:6

[Christ4Ever]

I thought you were a man of reason!

What am I to make of the lack of a sarcasm emoji? Was it sarcasm? Wasn't it? (Who's your hairdresser.)

Only when it is sarcasm...by the way which emoji is the sarcastic one?
No hairdresser or barber for that matter.

You mean they signed it out at Alexandria and had to return it by a certain day, so others on the waiting list could then sign it out? What a waiting list that must have been!!! (Sarcasm)

Ahh... there it is. (The sarcasm... It does not become you.)

I know, but sometimes it comes to me to add a little example of how the simple folks see everyday life that academia forgets about. Just like the simple folks do not comprehend the bubble that academia lives in a real sense of reality. Think of it as being like the different tribes in the OT and depending on the land/expertise of each tribe, understanding of each other wasn't always a guarantee. (Levites to the other tribes especially.) Maybe I should use milking a cow as an example. Read all you want about how to, but until you actually do it, it's only conjecture/supposition on the part of the reader, and dare I say it won't guarantee success or milk for that matter if put to the test. Or the time it takes to research and learn information on another culture/language that has no real foundation in the everyday life of the person seeking to gain that knowledge and doing so by pouring through such documents of antiquity. Can be hardly understood by another but hopefully appreciated as a worthy endeavor.

Well, Nick, it wasn't called the Library of Alexandria for nothing. And YES, the policy was exactly like those for reference books in your own libraries of today. One couldn't take them out of the library because they just cost too damn much. Consider the cost of a complete set of scrolls. Only the very rich could own a personal copy. Do you own a Bugatti? Neither would you have owned a Septuagint - but you could go read it at the Library. Extant copies were rather few in number, and when dealing with a handful of manuscripts, it's easy to spend the time to ensure an unparalleled accuracy. The larger quantity of Hebrew Manuscripts as needed for each synagogue would make accuracy more difficult, but it didn't seem like the average Jew cared about that, especially those to whom Judaism meant participating in the Temple rituals, sacrifices, and feasts.

Amazing that we know anything about them, isn't it.
No Bugatti here, but according to my sisters research we do have a member of the family who was a Prime Minister to a King. Maybe, I could have gotten connected to actually being allowed to get a copy of "a" Septuagint or at least to view one. Of course, knowing myself a bit, I'd have been too busy milking the cows. lol

Still, I'm sure even the smaller community of Jews who were able to afford a Synagogue would have had some type of scroll of an OT Book to read. Otherwise, I don't think they'd of built a synagogue and maybe they just went to the one in the next town over, to do so. Maybe, only on Holy Days, like some folks do nowadays when it comes to stepping into a church!

I believe where the Dead Sea Scrolls were found, ....

How can one even rationally compare the DSS and their origins with that of the LXX? The LXX was 570 miles away from the DSS and 300 years in the past.

The development of the Hebrew texts as testified by the DSS just doesn't apply to that of the LXX. It's like comparing figs and pommegranites.

What I was talking about was accessibility/availability to the common man in the synagogue they would attend. You discount it, because it appears to you that only Septuagint existed in the time of Jesus or was available to him. I say that even by your reckoning, it could have been another writing, that did not come from the Scrolls that were used in the creation of the Septuagint. The poorer the folks would have been more likely have in hand a poorer type of copy, but for the benefactor that wanted to look good by his generosity. Both Jew/Gentile of course.

Though in truth I do not believe the Son of God would have needed them. I think about him as a child talking with the religious teachers (Luke 2:41-52), and that it suggests that it was a few days of Him doing this. Maybe, some of this learning was also received from the mysterious time in Egypt. So, in truth, only Jesus and maybe his family know for sure, what was available to Him to read.

Which evidenced that differing copies of the books did exist.

Yes, the Hebrew texts. My article covered this extensively. But nothing was said about the LXX, so you're just assuming.

And if you wanted to argue myside of it, you'd have no problem doing so. Remember this all goes back to my initial question to your statement, because I believed then and still believe it as being more an assumption on your part than supposition which is how you made it sound.

I'm backlogged enough books that I need to be reading.

We were talking about an Interlinear New Testament. You have books to read that are more important than the New Testament? Wow.

Sometimes you do come off as an idiot brother, but I still love you even if you had this wrong. What was the book you were willing to buy for me? I believe it was something about "Misquoting Jesus..." (post#43)

Then again maybe you confused me with Brother DaveM who you also mentioned the Interlinear NT to. For I do own an Interlinear Greek-English NT and would have said so if that was what you were offering to purchase for me and just as appreciative if not more so for your thoughtful consideration if it had been.

Sometimes, I think you just do this on purpose, so we can continue to have this little back and forth.

Sometimes I think you make mistakes on purpose just to kick the dogs.

I think I'm going to have to help you with the jargon of us common folks.

By the way I only kicked one dog, who was loose and went after my little precious one (15 lbs.) who was on a chain trying to take care of business. Out weighted my dog by over 100lbs at least (125lbs)! No damage to the dog since I just wanted to send it tumbling away from my critter, and not to actually hurt it. I do believe my tongue lashing to the neighbors to keep their dog on a chain/rope, was more hurtful in the long run.

remember, you're the scholar, and I'm just a simple man.

And you rail that my insults are too subtle.

No insult, just fact...at least according to your own words and mine. Now maybe if you had kept the context with what you quoted of me saying, it might make more sense to you.

However, if you decide to contact him, I would be interested in how your exchange goes.

For what reason? I see no reason to contact any individual who cannot take the time to ensure that his mistakes were expunged.

Which really does not speak well of you brother if you were to think about it.

I am sure many will gain insight to what you provided here.

One would hope. But I strongly doubt that anyone read the article.

Isn't that what it's really about the hope that whatever we do will somehow, someway, help others to grow closer, and more knowledgeable in His Word and then be open to being drawn to the only one by which one can be saved, my Jesus. \o/

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[Rhema]

I NO LONGER PRACTICE SIN, I practice righteousness.

for sin is the transgression of the law.​

- 1 John 3:4 KJV

You no longer transgress the Law? Good to know brother. Good to know.

Rhema

Please do not waist your time

No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.​

- Luke 5:39 KJV

 

[Garee]

Which Word? The LOGOS (Word) of God? Or the RHEMA (Word) of God?

Dave, the unlearned man corrupts the Word of God to himself (both of them).

I trust Jesus, my faith is in Jesus, the ONLY mediator between God and Man, the Son of God through whom the Father is made known.

You'd know nothing of God without the teachings of Jesus.

Right?

Rhema
...and corrupt translations corrupt those teachings.

The word of the Faithful "Let there be" and "it was God alone good word ".

God is not a Jewish man as King of kings. That is a wile of the evil one.

You put your trust in the Son of man Jesus and not the Christ the Father who bruised the heel of the Son crushing the head of the serpent strengthening the Son of man to do the will of Christ of the Father?

Can't serve two good teaching masters .

The body of the Son of man Jesus has long retuned to the dust.(2 Corinthian 5:16)