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Jesus ; seen in 3 ways

dorian37grey

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Jesus is the central character in the bible;

and I would like to start a conversion on
son of God -------------------1- who he is ;
son of man -------------------2- what he did
the traveler-------------------3- how it works for us

any interest?
 
In the Flesh ,Jesus was indeed the Only Begotten Son, but in His spirit He was part of GOD. He is Creator .God eternal living Word .

He waits 24/7 for us to but Ask . Nothing He will not help us with or reveal to us if we are able to accept it?

He LOVES each of us More than we Love ourselves. More than our DADS and Moms or anyone else.
He only wants the very best for us here and great rewards later .
 
Of course Jesus was the Son of God (capital S) not "a" son of God.
Everything was created by him.
John 1:1; In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2; He was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3; All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
John 1:14; And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Col 1:16; For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created through Him and for Him.
Col 1:17; He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.

Jesus called himself the son of man more often than any other title. Why?
It was man who broke the command of God way back in Genesis 3:6;
Man broke it, a man had to fix it.
Gen 1:26; Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
When Jesus was tempted, the devil tempted him to do things a God would do.
(Turn stones into bread, Cast yourself off of a dangerous place so the angels will catch you)
Heb 2:18; For since He Himself was tempted in that which He has suffered, He is able to come to the aid of those who are tempted.
Yet Jesus defeated him without using His "God" powers. He defeated him the same way we can defeat him. With scripture.
When Jesus broke the curse of death, he did it for man, as a man. (As God he already could not die)
Death had no power over him. He never sinned. Therefore the wages of sin did not apply to him, even as a man.
Because of this, death has no power over men (and women) who believe in Him. Why was it so important that he rise in the flesh? Many reasons I think,
(everyone who dies still has a spirit, but not a body of flesh) but also to show that death had no power over him as a man (in the flesh).
John 20:27; Then He *said to Thomas, "Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing."
John 20:28; Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"
1 Jn 4:2; By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;
1 Jn 4:3; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.

Of course satan doesn't want to acknowledge, or have any of us acknowledge that Jesus defeated him as a man. (flesh).

"The traveler" ??
 
Jesus is the central character in the bible;

and I would like to start a conversion on
son of God -------------------1- who he is ;
son of man -------------------2- what he did
the traveler-------------------3- how it works for us

any interest?


Your post reminded me of the 3 ways spoken by Jesus,....... offering the only eternal hope for mankind........in my signature.

Blessings.....in Jesus
 
He is all of those and so much more!
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
 
Jesus is the central character in the bible;

and I would like to start a conversion on
son of God -------------------1- who he is ;
son of man -------------------2- what he did
the traveler-------------------3- how it works for us

any interest?

We have in the book of Isaiah a declaration by God Himself of a phrase that God uses to identify Himself.

Isaiah 44
6 Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:
I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God besides Me.

God has declared that He is the 'first and I am the last' and there is 'no God besides Me'.

Now read the following extract from the book of revelations.
In which there is a revelation of the One referred to as the 'first and the last'.
Remember that the one identified by the 'first and the last' is God from Isaiah 44.

Revelations 1
12 Then I turned to see the voice that was speaking with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands;
13 and in the middle of the lamp stands I saw one like a Son of man, clothed in a robe reaching to the feet, and girded across His chest with a golden sash.
14 His head and His hair were white like white wool, like snow; and His eyes were like a flame of fire.
15 His feet were like burnished bronze, when it has been made to glow in a furnace, and His voice was like the sound of many waters.
16 In His right hand He held seven stars, and out of His mouth came a sharp two-edged sword; and His face was like the sun shining in its strength.
17 When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. And He placed His right hand on me, saying, “Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last".

The description of the 'Son of man' above includes this unique identification. Verse 17 says, 'Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last'.
The Son of man is the 'first and the last', and is God according to Isaiah 44.

Hence the God of the Old Testament is Jesus Christ!!!
 
In the Flesh ,Jesus was indeed the Only Begotten Son, but in His spirit He was part of GOD. He is Creator .God eternal living Word .

He waits 24/7 for us to but Ask . Nothing He will not help us with or reveal to us if we are able to accept it?

He LOVES each of us More than we Love ourselves. More than our DADS and Moms or anyone else.
He only wants the very best for us here and great rewards later .

in the flesh
should we not examine why the flesh?
imo-
it is this son of man story that shows just what Jesus was doing and addressing

consider;
that which is done by the son of man ; is something different than what is done by God the Father
 
Jesus Never did Anything that the Father did not reveal or tell Jesus to do. He only did the Fathers perfect will 100% .

The flesh is weak and needs to be controlled though our spirit . The flesh cannot help but want to sin. It does Not want too please the Father .It only wants too please it self. Our Spirit wants Born of God perfect seed only wants to please our Lord Jesus 100%
 
should we not examine why the flesh?

Good point.
Some say man can only sin as an extension of Satan (i.e. Satan causes us to sin).
I personally disagree, I think we can sin perfectly well on our own without any help from Satan. Perhaps this is why the Bible distinguishes the "the flesh" from "temptation", also other names mentioned are
"satan", "the devil", the adversary", "the accuser of the brethren", "the tempter", etc... Some say those are "the flesh" (by proxy of Satan) but I disagree.
It would be an interesting study I think.
 
Good point.
Some say man can only sin as an extension of Satan (i.e. Satan causes us to sin).
I personally disagree, I think we can sin perfectly well on our own without any help from Satan. Perhaps this is why the Bible distinguishes the "the flesh" from "temptation", also other names mentioned are
"satan", "the devil", the adversary", "the accuser of the brethren", "the tempter", etc... Some say those are "the flesh" (by proxy of Satan) but I disagree.
It would be an interesting study I think.


interesting;
is Satan of the flesh?
was genesis six ; the attempt to join with the flesh by the fallen?
and what was the reason for the fallen seeking such a joining ?

the flesh I was speaking to was that of Jesus {Son of Man}


IT IS IN THE FLESH ; that Jesus brings about what is needed to be the savior of mankind
and thus; Jesus did his job by a joining with the flesh

* so ; did the fallen seek this ?
* what did Jesus address while in the flesh that provided a way back for mankind ?
 
The Bible also shows Him as the Lord and Christ and the returning King.

I see the issues of what Jesus did {will do} while on this earth to be seen in 4 stages

birth*
life*
death*
and as you have said
return * -----------------------------------as king of kings

so looking at the other 3 ; any comments there?
 
satan did cause all sin on the earth and still causes lots . But we dwell in a sin nature body and we might not control what we watch or hear .Which can cause more problems to us.

You Must be careful with your mind it very serious. It records everything and stuff can come out of your mouth you never thought you would say?
 
Let's see Jesus as the satan defeater. Inside every saved person is a miniature garden of Eden. There is God in our spirit, us in our soul, and satan in our flesh. Whether we turn our souls to our spirit or to our flesh, determines whether we turn to God or to satan. Day by day the choice between the tree of life (Christ) or the tree of knowledge (man and satan) is set before us, and we must choose of which fruit we wish to eat. The first thing we do when we wake up in the morning, do we turn to Christ ? or do we turn on the news, the finance report (knowledge), or do we complain and argue? Then during the day what are we eating, are we eating life or are we eating knowledge and death?

There is no middle ground. There is not God, Satan, and neutral man in between. Satan dwells in man by proxy from the fall.By default, satan is the father of sinful and fallen man (John 8:44). That is why Jesus said to Peter "get behind me Satan" (Matt 16:23), "you are minding the things of men".

Jesus did not say "Peter you are minding the things of Satan". Of course, Peter was not a devil worshipper or occultist. But what this reveals is that the things of fallen man,is Satan. So fallen man and satan are one, just like renewed and born again man and God are one. This means they are united in thought, purpose and intent.

Of course, Satan is an ex-archangel, and cannot be in more than one place at a time, so "Satan" does not refer to the archangel himself, but wherever his rule and reign may be existing, or wherever satan is expressed through fallen man, is called "Satan". The word satan means adversary, so wherever there is adversary to God, there is satan.

Wherever there is adversary to God, there is satan. Human government, healthcare , education, at the end of the day, is all satan. All these things are exalting man and are opposed to the kingdom of God, therefore they are satan. Satan is only one evil archangel, so how could Satan have a hope to rule the earth? Only by poisoning mankind through the fall, therefore every human being is a potential adversary to God, a potential mini-satan. No good thing dwells in our flesh (Romans 7:18a), and the no good thing is satan.

How to get rid of the satan in our flesh? The only way is for the flesh to die. This is how Jesus defeated satan : by going to the cross, his flesh was killed. We are not free from satan in the flesh until after we die and obtain new resurrected perfect bodies. This is why every Christian person has the capacity to do as much evil as anybody else, as long as satan dwells in the flesh. Satan could so easily cause Judas Iscariot to betray Christ. Sometimes on the news we hear about good Christian folk doing terrible things.

So we could see Jesus as the "satan defeater", by what he did on the cross. Why did Jesus say "get behind me satan"? Because satan in the fallen human flesh, was to follow Jesus to the cross. When Jesus became sin for us on the cross (2 Cor 5:20-21), He became an adversary to God momentarily, that is why the Father left Him. It wasn't just the Son of God who died on the cross but the adversary to God or the principle of satan in every Adamic born human being (the fallen flesh) went to the cross and died. It is by this fact that satan was defeated on the cross, because the flesh which satan used to gain control over mankind and oppose God, died, and even was resurrected.
 
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