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B-A-C

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Isa 65:17; "For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former things will not be remembered or come to mind.
Isa 65:18; "But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create; For behold, I create Jerusalem for rejoicing And her people for gladness.
Isa 65:19; "I will also rejoice in Jerusalem and be glad in My people; And there will no longer be heard in her The voice of weeping and the sound of crying.
Isa 65:20; "No longer will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, Or an old man who does not live out his days; For the youth will die at the age of one hundred And the one who does not reach the age of one hundred Will be thought accursed.
Isa 65:21; "They will build houses and inhabit them; They will also plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
Isa 65:22; "They will not build and another inhabit, They will not plant and another eat; For as the lifetime of a tree, so will be the days of My people, And My chosen ones will wear out the work of their hands.
Isa 65:23; "They will not labor in vain, Or bear children for calamity; For they are the offspring of those blessed by the LORD, And their descendants with them.
Isa 65:24; "It will also come to pass that before they call, I will answer; and while they are still speaking, I will hear.
Isa 65:25; "The wolf and the lamb will graze together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox; and dust will be the serpent's food. They will do no evil or harm in all My holy mountain," says the LORD.

I have a lot of questions about this passage, and the timing of it. I am wondering who these people are?

One day there will be a heaven and a new earth. OK, so far so good.
I am assuming verse 18 is about the New Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven... ok.

But then we have these people... who apparently age. .. and apparently even die... it seems most people will live at least til the age of 100, ( or longer ). Like a tree, but still they die.
This reminds me of the people in the Bible born before Genesis chapter 6. A number of them lived to be 500, 600, or a few cases over 900 years old. ... but eventually they died.

Now if believers get eternal life.... then who are these people who eventually die? Why are they on the new heaven and earth? ( or possibly the New Jerusalem? )

John 14:2; "In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
John 14:3; "If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.
John 14:4; "And you know the way where I am going."


Now it seems in ( His ) Father's house there are many dwelling places.. ( KIng James says "mansions" ).
... and Jesus Himself ( builds? ) prepares these places.

But yet these people in Isaiah 65 build their own houses, plant their own food. It appears they only build their houses for themselves. They only plant and harvest food for themselves.
No one builds a house for someone else. No one shares their food with someone else.

Now there have been a number of studies here about the New Jerusalem coming down from heaven, and likely sitting on Mount Zion. Which makes sense for verse 25.

But are the people in Isa 65 the same people in Rev 22:15; ?
 
Gen 5:5 So all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years, and he died.
Gen 5:8 So all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years, and he died.
Gen 5:11 So all the days of Enosh were nine hundred and five years, and he died.
Gen 5:14 So all the days of Kenan were nine hundred and ten years, and he died.
Gen 5:27 So all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred and sixty-nine years, and he died.

This is not a complete list, I could add probably another dozen names here....
But then we have Genesis 6.

Gen 6:3; Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."

So it seems at this time God says... you can only live 120 years. That's it. I draw the line here. Now I have heard news stories from time to time about someone
being slightly older. usually those stories are hard to verify, but even if they are true, usually it's 121, or 122, I haven't seen anyone 130 or older for example.

But this is different from eternal life. The phrase "eternal life" is in the New testament over 40 times.

John 10:28; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.
John 3:16; "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
Rom 2:7; to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life;
Luke 20:36; for they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

Cannot die, immortal, cannot perish, ... everlasting, eternal. Not just 800 or 900 years.. but forever. ....foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
 
Hi @B-A-C this is one of my favourite passages in the whole Bible. I don't have an answer to the main question on long life, everlasting life.

One helpful clue may be that teaching about resurrection developed was revealed quite late on the Old Testament. There's only hints towards it in Moses' time, and by the time of Daniel in exile in Babylon it's pretty firm. Isaiah's prophecy is a step on that journey. (I know that raises all sorts of other issues about revelation).

They will build their houses and dwell in them -- this is about security and fruitfulness: nobody will have a home that they've built or garden they've grown snatched away from them by debt or military attack etc. It means that a person will receive the fruit of their work. it doesn't mean selfish individualism.
 
Isa 65:17; "For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former things will not be remembered or come to mind.
Isa 65:18; "But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create; For behold, I create Jerusalem for rejoicing And her people for gladness.
Isa 65:19; "I will also rejoice in Jerusalem and be glad in My people; And there will no longer be heard in her The voice of weeping and the sound of crying.
Isa 65:20; "No longer will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, Or an old man who does not live out his days; For the youth will die at the age of one hundred And the one who does not reach the age of one hundred Will be thought accursed.
Isa 65:21; "They will build houses and inhabit them; They will also plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
Isa 65:22; "They will not build and another inhabit, They will not plant and another eat; For as the lifetime of a tree, so will be the days of My people, And My chosen ones will wear out the work of their hands.
Isa 65:23; "They will not labor in vain, Or bear children for calamity; For they are the offspring of those blessed by the LORD, And their descendants with them.
Isa 65:24; "It will also come to pass that before they call, I will answer; and while they are still speaking, I will hear.
Isa 65:25; "The wolf and the lamb will graze together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox; and dust will be the serpent's food. They will do no evil or harm in all My holy mountain," says the LORD.

I have a lot of questions about this passage, and the timing of it. I am wondering who these people are?

One day there will be a heaven and a new earth. OK, so far so good.
I am assuming verse 18 is about the New Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven... ok.

But then we have these people... who apparently age. .. and apparently even die... it seems most people will live at least til the age of 100, ( or longer ). Like a tree, but still they die.
This reminds me of the people in the Bible born before Genesis chapter 6. A number of them lived to be 500, 600, or a few cases over 900 years old. ... but eventually they died.

Now if believers get eternal life.... then who are these people who eventually die? Why are they on the new heaven and earth? ( or possibly the New Jerusalem? )

John 14:2; "In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
John 14:3; "If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.
John 14:4; "And you know the way where I am going."


Now it seems in ( His ) Father's house there are many dwelling places.. ( KIng James says "mansions" ).
... and Jesus Himself ( builds? ) prepares these places.

But yet these people in Isaiah 65 build their own houses, plant their own food. It appears they only build their houses for themselves. They only plant and harvest food for themselves.
No one builds a house for someone else. No one shares their food with someone else.

Now there have been a number of studies here about the New Jerusalem coming down from heaven, and likely sitting on Mount Zion. Which makes sense for verse 25.

But are the people in Isa 65 the same people in Rev 22:15; ?
Hi B-A-C,

My understanding of Isaiah 64 is that the present Jerusalem will be restored, it is the New Jerusalem. When Christ returns He defeatd Hisnenemies and sets up His kingdom. There will still be people on the earth. These nations are the ones Isaiah is speaking of. These are different than the resurrected believers.
 
Gen 5:5 So all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years, and he died.
Gen 5:8 So all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years, and he died.
Gen 5:11 So all the days of Enosh were nine hundred and five years, and he died.
Gen 5:14 So all the days of Kenan were nine hundred and ten years, and he died.
Gen 5:27 So all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred and sixty-nine years, and he died.

This is not a complete list, I could add probably another dozen names here....
But then we have Genesis 6.

Gen 6:3; Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."

So it seems at this time God says... you can only live 120 years. That's it. I draw the line here. Now I have heard news stories from time to time about someone
being slightly older. usually those stories are hard to verify, but even if they are true, usually it's 121, or 122, I haven't seen anyone 130 or older for example.

But this is different from eternal life. The phrase "eternal life" is in the New testament over 40 times.

John 10:28; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.
John 3:16; "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
Rom 2:7; to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life;
Luke 20:36; for they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

Cannot die, immortal, cannot perish, ... everlasting, eternal. Not just 800 or 900 years.. but forever. ....foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Hi B-A-C,

I would submit that the passage in Gen 6:3 is not 120 years. The word that's translated "years" literally means cycles. Many translators believe it's talking about a yearly cycle. I don't believe it is. I believe it's talking about the Jubliee cycle. God told the Israelites that they were to farm the land for 6 years and let it rest on the seventh. They were to do this for seven cycles of seven years. That was total of 49 years. The fiftieth year was to be a year of Jubilee. They were to let the land rest. All debts were forgiven. If you had bought land from another Israelite that land returned to the original owner, etc. This was God's Jubilee cycle. The Israelites didn't keep it which is why they went into exile. God exiled them to let the land rest.

God said His breath would not always strive with man but his days would be 120 cycles. If these are Jubilee cycles as I suggest, it means man's days are 6000 years. 120x50=6000. Remember what David said.

Psalm 90:4 (KJV 1900): For a thousand years in thy sight
Are but as yesterday
when it is past,
And as a watch in the night.

Peter alludes to this also.

2 Peter 3:8 (KJV 1900): But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

To God a day is as a thousand years. Remember what God said to Adam? He told him that the day he ate from the tree of knowledge he would die. Adam ate and he died at 930 years, just short of a day. This is the prophetic day, a thousand years. Remember in Genesis, God worked for 6 days and rested on the seventh. How long are 6 prophetic days? 6000 years or 120 cycles. God worked for 6 days. His breath will strive with man for 6000 years or 6 days. God rested on the seventh day. After 6000 years we have Christ's reign for 1000 years, the seventh day.

Paul said,

1 Corinthians 15:51–52 (KJV 1900): 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Paul said that believers would be changed in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump. So, when the last trumpet sounds the dead in Christ will rise and those who are alive will be changed. The question is, when is the last trump? Every year at the festivals trumpets were used. However, on Yom Kippor, the day of atonement, there was no trumpet. This went on for 49 years. Then, in the year of Jubille, on Yom Kippor, the day of Atonement, the trumpet sounded. It's the only time in those 50 years that a trumpet sounded on Yom Kippor and it was the last trump of the 50 years cycle.
 
Isa 65:17; "For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former things will not be remembered or come to mind.
Isa 65:18; "But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create; For behold, I create Jerusalem for rejoicing And her people for gladness.
Isa 65:19; "I will also rejoice in Jerusalem and be glad in My people; And there will no longer be heard in her The voice of weeping and the sound of crying.
Isa 65:20; "No longer will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, Or an old man who does not live out his days; For the youth will die at the age of one hundred And the one who does not reach the age of one hundred Will be thought accursed.
Isa 65:21; "They will build houses and inhabit them; They will also plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
Isa 65:22; "They will not build and another inhabit, They will not plant and another eat; For as the lifetime of a tree, so will be the days of My people, And My chosen ones will wear out the work of their hands.
Isa 65:23; "They will not labor in vain, Or bear children for calamity; For they are the offspring of those blessed by the LORD, And their descendants with them.
Isa 65:24; "It will also come to pass that before they call, I will answer; and while they are still speaking, I will hear.
Isa 65:25; "The wolf and the lamb will graze together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox; and dust will be the serpent's food. They will do no evil or harm in all My holy mountain," says the LORD.

I have a lot of questions about this passage, and the timing of it. I am wondering who these people are?

One day there will be a heaven and a new earth. OK, so far so good.
I am assuming verse 18 is about the New Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven... ok.

But then we have these people... who apparently age. .. and apparently even die... it seems most people will live at least til the age of 100, ( or longer ). Like a tree, but still they die.
This reminds me of the people in the Bible born before Genesis chapter 6. A number of them lived to be 500, 600, or a few cases over 900 years old. ... but eventually they died.

Now if believers get eternal life.... then who are these people who eventually die? Why are they on the new heaven and earth? ( or possibly the New Jerusalem? )

John 14:2; "In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
John 14:3; "If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.
John 14:4; "And you know the way where I am going."


Now it seems in ( His ) Father's house there are many dwelling places.. ( KIng James says "mansions" ).
... and Jesus Himself ( builds? ) prepares these places.

But yet these people in Isaiah 65 build their own houses, plant their own food. It appears they only build their houses for themselves. They only plant and harvest food for themselves.
No one builds a house for someone else. No one shares their food with someone else.

Now there have been a number of studies here about the New Jerusalem coming down from heaven, and likely sitting on Mount Zion. Which makes sense for verse 25.

But are the people in Isa 65 the same people in Rev 22:15; ?
Jesus said He has others who are not of this fold, and must needs bring them too.
 
Gen 5:5 So all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years, and he died.
Gen 5:8 So all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years, and he died.
Gen 5:11 So all the days of Enosh were nine hundred and five years, and he died.
Gen 5:14 So all the days of Kenan were nine hundred and ten years, and he died.
Gen 5:27 So all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred and sixty-nine years, and he died.

This is not a complete list, I could add probably another dozen names here....
But then we have Genesis 6.

Gen 6:3; Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."

So it seems at this time God says... you can only live 120 years. That's it. I draw the line here. Now I have heard news stories from time to time about someone
being slightly older. usually those stories are hard to verify, but even if they are true, usually it's 121, or 122, I haven't seen anyone 130 or older for example.

But this is different from eternal life. The phrase "eternal life" is in the New testament over 40 times.

John 10:28; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.
John 3:16; "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
Rom 2:7; to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life;
Luke 20:36; for they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

Cannot die, immortal, cannot perish, ... everlasting, eternal. Not just 800 or 900 years.. but forever. ....foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Good post, that is the message for the current time., the time of the last Day, the LORD's Day, that is the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium, the millennium of Christ, the millennium of the Judgment Seat of Christ, the millennium of Vengeance, the millennium of he righteous Judgment of GOD. Hallelujaaah!

Yes, our Lord JESUS made it clear, saying: Luke 20:35-36

35 - They which shall be accounted WORTHY to obtain that world (next world-the Kingdom of GOD-Matthew 5:5 and Revelation 5:10)., and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:

36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of GOD, being the children of the resurrection.


And Paul Apostle prophesied, saying: 1 Corinthians 15:50-57 : -
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of GOD; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; ... we shall all be changed,

52 ... at the last trump(Revelation 11:15-18): for the trumpet shall sound (compare with 1 Thessalonians 4
:16), and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Philippians 3:20-21
20 For our conversation is in heaven(HEAVEN? Ephesians 1:3. Take a look); from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

21 Who shall CHANGE our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto himself. (Matthew 28:18 - JESUS said: All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.)


1 John 2:28 - And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.


1 John 3:2-3 -
2 - Beloved, now are we the sons of GOD, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when He shall appear, we shall be like Him; for we shall see Him as he is. (Genesis 1:26-27 - - 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: ... 27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him...)
3 - And every man that hath this hope in Him purifieth himself, even as He is pure.


For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: (The resurrection is now, even now, in this beginning of the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium, or at the turn of the sixth to the seventh Day, the LORD's Day.)


Romans 8: 18-19


18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of GOD. - Hallelujaaah!. Amen

May our Lord GOD bless us and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen
 
Hi B-A-C,

I would submit that the passage in Gen 6:3 is not 120 years. The word that's translated "years" literally means cycles. Many translators believe it's talking about a yearly cycle. I don't believe it is. I believe it's talking about the Jubliee cycle. God told the Israelites that they were to farm the land for 6 years and let it rest on the seventh. They were to do this for seven cycles of seven years. That was total of 49 years. The fiftieth year was to be a year of Jubilee. They were to let the land rest. All debts were forgiven. If you had bought land from another Israelite that land returned to the original owner, etc. This was God's Jubilee cycle. The Israelites didn't keep it which is why they went into exile. God exiled them to let the land rest.

God said His breath would not always strive with man but his days would be 120 cycles. If these are Jubilee cycles as I suggest, it means man's days are 6000 years. 120x50=6000. Remember what David said.

Psalm 90:4 (KJV 1900): For a thousand years in thy sight
Are but as yesterday
when it is past,
And as a watch in the night.

Peter alludes to this also.

2 Peter 3:8 (KJV 1900): But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

To God a day is as a thousand years. Remember what God said to Adam? He told him that the day he ate from the tree of knowledge he would die. Adam ate and he died at 930 years, just short of a day. This is the prophetic day, a thousand years. Remember in Genesis, God worked for 6 days and rested on the seventh. How long are 6 prophetic days? 6000 years or 120 cycles. God worked for 6 days. His breath will strive with man for 6000 years or 6 days. God rested on the seventh day. After 6000 years we have Christ's reign for 1000 years, the seventh day.

Paul said,

1 Corinthians 15:51–52 (KJV 1900): 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Paul said that believers would be changed in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump. So, when the last trumpet sounds the dead in Christ will rise and those who are alive will be changed. The question is, when is the last trump? Every year at the festivals trumpets were used. However, on Yom Kippor, the day of atonement, there was no trumpet. This went on for 49 years. Then, in the year of Jubille, on Yom Kippor, the day of Atonement, the trumpet sounded. It's the only time in those 50 years that a trumpet sounded on Yom Kippor and it was the last trump of the 50 years cycle.
Very interesting, your studies literally fit biblical Chronology. According biblical Chronology, from Adam until the current time already passed around 6000 years, actually some years more, as follow:

In accord biblical Chronology, we can number our days beginning in Genesis chapter 5, as follow:

Adam lived …..................................................................130 yrs and begat Seth
Seth lived …………………………………………………...............105 yrs and begat Enosh;
Enosh lived ........................................................................90 yrs and begat Kenan;
Kenan lived.........................................................................70 yrs and begat Mahalalel;
Mahalalel lived .................................................................65 yrs and begat Jared;
Jared lived .......................................................................162 yrs and begat Enoch;
Enoch lived ........................................................................65 yrs and begat Methuselah
Methuselah lived............................................................187 yrs and begat Lamech;
Lamech lived ...................................................................182 yrs and begat Noah;
From Noah´s birth until the Flood............................600 yrs.
Total of years from Adam to the Flood =.............1,656 years.


SIX PERIODS OF BIBLICAL TIMES ----------------- DURATION

I - From Adam to the Flood-------------------.------1,656 years
II - From the Flood to Abraham-----------------------427 years
III - From Abraham to Exodus-------------------------430 years-Gal.3:17
IV - From Exodus to king Saul ------------------------396 years
V - From Saul to the fall of Jerusalem ----------------.508 years
VI - From the fall of Jerusalem to Jesus ---------------.587 years

Thus, from Adam to the 1st coming of Jesus --------.4,004 years
From Jesus to our days (Christian Calendar)---------.2,022 years

Total from Adam to our days ------------------------6,026 years


VII
- The seventh and last period begins now, in this current millennium, the seventh and last millennium, or seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day. The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Revelation 11:v.15 combined with Luke 20:v.35-36, and Revelation 5:v.10, among others.

.May our Lord GOD bless us and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen


 
Very interesting, your studies literally fit biblical Chronology. According biblical Chronology, from Adam until the current time already passed around 6000 years, actually some years more, as follow:

In accord biblical Chronology, we can number our days beginning in Genesis chapter 5, as follow:

Adam lived …..................................................................130 yrs and begat Seth
Seth lived …………………………………………………...............105 yrs and begat Enosh;
Enosh lived ........................................................................90 yrs and begat Kenan;
Kenan lived.........................................................................70 yrs and begat Mahalalel;
Mahalalel lived .................................................................65 yrs and begat Jared;
Jared lived .......................................................................162 yrs and begat Enoch;
Enoch lived ........................................................................65 yrs and begat Methuselah
Methuselah lived............................................................187 yrs and begat Lamech;
Lamech lived ...................................................................182 yrs and begat Noah;
From Noah´s birth until the Flood............................600 yrs.
Total of years from Adam to the Flood =.............1,656 years.


SIX PERIODS OF BIBLICAL TIMES ----------------- DURATION

I - From Adam to the Flood-------------------.------1,656 years
II - From the Flood to Abraham-----------------------427 years
III - From Abraham to Exodus-------------------------430 years-Gal.3:17
IV - From Exodus to king Saul ------------------------396 years
V - From Saul to the fall of Jerusalem ----------------.508 years
VI - From the fall of Jerusalem to Jesus ---------------.587 years

Thus, from Adam to the 1st coming of Jesus --------.4,004 years
From Jesus to our days (Christian Calendar)---------.2,022 years

Total from Adam to our days ------------------------6,026 years


VII
- The seventh and last period begins now, in this current millennium, the seventh and last millennium, or seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day. The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Revelation 11:v.15 combined with Luke 20:v.35-36, and Revelation 5:v.10, among others.

.May our Lord GOD bless us and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen


I believe We're very close to the seventh day.
 
I believe We're very close to the seventh day.
By analogy, I would compare these current days with Genesis 3:8-9 and Matthew 25:6-7.

Genesis 3:8-9:
8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the Day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden.
9 And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

Matthew 25:6-7 :
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him.
7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

GOD went in the Garden of Eden at the turn of Day, JESUS in His parable speaks that at midnight a cry made is heard, well, midnight refers to the turn of a Day, that is from the sixth to the seventh Day, His Day, the LORD's Day. (In my understand we MUST crie "the bridegroom cometh; is arriving, go ye out to meet Him".)

In my vision, we are alreading living in the turn from the sixth to the seventh Day, just in the beginning of the first century of the seventh and last millennium (or seventh Day), so I'm sure the bridegroom is arriving.


Philippians 3:20-21
20 For our conversation is in heaven (HEAVEN? Ephesians 1:3. Take a look); from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

21 Who shall CHANGE our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto himself. (Matthew 28:18 - JESUS said: All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.)

Amen
 
Psa 90:9; For all our days have declined in Your fury; We have finished our years like a sigh.
Psa 90:10; As for the days of our life, they contain seventy years, Or if due to strength, eighty years, Yet their pride is but labor and sorrow; For soon it is gone and we fly away.
 
In a nutshell:

Messiah's theocratic kingdom will be in two separate and distinct phases in two
separate and distinct venues.

The first phase and the first venue will be right here on the Earth as it is now, in the
cosmos as it is now.

The first phase will be populated with an amalgam of mortal folks and immortal
folks.

The first phase will be will relatively brief; lasting only one millennium.

The first phase comes to an end when the Earth as it is now, and the cosmos as it
is now, are both destroyed in a magnificent cataclysm.


The second phase of Messiah's theocratic kingdom will be will set up on a brand
new Earth situated in a brand new cosmos.

The second phase will be populated with immortal folks only.

The second phase, and its venue, will be permanent.
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In a nutshell:

Messiah's theocratic kingdom will be in two separate and distinct phases in two
separate and distinct venues.

The first phase and the first venue will be right here on the Earth as it is now, in the
cosmos as it is now.

The first phase will be populated with an amalgam of mortal folks and immortal
folks.

The first phase will be will relatively brief; lasting only one millennium.

The first phase comes to an end when the Earth as it is now, and the cosmos as it
is now, are both destroyed in a magnificent cataclysm.


The second phase of Messiah's theocratic kingdom will be will set up on a brand
new Earth situated in a brand new cosmos.

The second phase will be populated with immortal folks only.

The second phase, and its venue, will be permanent.
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Above you simply are exposing your thinking that is not from a GOD's perspective, of course, but from a human perspective, which compared with the Word of GOD is a stumblingblock as a human perspective, without any biblical verse, only and only human thinking.

What do you know as GOD's perspective within the Word of GOD? The Word is GOD, the invisible GOD the Almighty. He established 7 days for restoration of all things - Acts 3:19-21 combined with Revelation 11:15-18, among many other biblical references, understand? By the way, JESUS made very clear that at midnight
a cry is made -Matthew 25:6- "the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him". Now, at midnight is more a turn of a new Day, it's the END of a millennium and the start of a new millennium according GOD's watch that NEVER stop, and "the bridegroom cometh" of the same manner GOD came in the Garden of Eden-Genesis 3:8 , and Adam and Eve " heard the voice of the Lord GOD walking in the garden in the cool of the Day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden" because both were naked; and hid themeselves.

That said, according biblical Chronology, GOD established seven(7) Days/seven millenniums, so from Adam until this current time of the end, how many days/millenniums have already passed according GOD's watch? The "the bridegroom cometh", He is arriving.
 
When I was a developing Christian back in the decade of the 1970's, a radio Bible
teacher recommended a book by J. Dwight Pentecost titled "Things To Come"
(ISBN 0-310-30890-9)

It proved an excellent resource at the time because I was very interested in Israel's
future and all the end time events. The book is still in print and can be had from
Amazon dot com. I'd guess that most book stores can order it too if it's not on
their shelves.
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When I was a developing Christian back in the decade of the 1970's, a radio Bible
teacher recommended a book by J. Dwight Pentecost titled "Things To Come"
(ISBN 0-310-30890-9)

It proved an excellent resource at the time because I was very interested in Israel's
future and all the end time events. The book is still in print and can be had from
Amazon dot com. I'd guess that most book stores can order it too if it's not on
their shelves.
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You just confirm what I wrote in my post , saying that your thinking is from a human perspective, not from GOD's perspective. In fact, the spirit of the words of your post above, which I replied, I discerned him and that your thinking is from a human perspective, not from GOD's perspective. It's very dangerous, for the testimony of GOD is greater-1 John 5:9.

There are three that bear record/ testifies in heaven(heaven?Ephesians 1:3), the Father (GOD the Father), the Word(the Word made flesh-JESUS), and the Holy Spirit (Ancient of Days sends by Jesus-John 15:26 and 16:14-15 combined with Daniel 7:22): and these three are One.
 
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