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Isa 65:17; "For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former things will not be remembered or come to mind.
Isa 65:18; "But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create; For behold, I create Jerusalem for rejoicing And her people for gladness.
Isa 65:19; "I will also rejoice in Jerusalem and be glad in My people; And there will no longer be heard in her The voice of weeping and the sound of crying.
Isa 65:20; "No longer will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, Or an old man who does not live out his days; For the youth will die at the age of one hundred And the one who does not reach the age of one hundred Will be thought accursed.
Isa 65:21; "They will build houses and inhabit them; They will also plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
Isa 65:22; "They will not build and another inhabit, They will not plant and another eat; For as the lifetime of a tree, so will be the days of My people, And My chosen ones will wear out the work of their hands.
Isa 65:23; "They will not labor in vain, Or bear children for calamity; For they are the offspring of those blessed by the LORD, And their descendants with them.
Isa 65:24; "It will also come to pass that before they call, I will answer; and while they are still speaking, I will hear.
Isa 65:25; "The wolf and the lamb will graze together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox; and dust will be the serpent's food. They will do no evil or harm in all My holy mountain," says the LORD.
I have a lot of questions about this passage, and the timing of it. I am wondering who these people are?
One day there will be a heaven and a new earth. OK, so far so good.
I am assuming verse 18 is about the New Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven... ok.
But then we have these people... who apparently age. .. and apparently even die... it seems most people will live at least til the age of 100, ( or longer ). Like a tree, but still they die.
This reminds me of the people in the Bible born before Genesis chapter 6. A number of them lived to be 500, 600, or a few cases over 900 years old. ... but eventually they died.
Now if believers get eternal life.... then who are these people who eventually die? Why are they on the new heaven and earth? ( or possibly the New Jerusalem? )
John 14:2; "In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
John 14:3; "If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.
John 14:4; "And you know the way where I am going."
Now it seems in ( His ) Father's house there are many dwelling places.. ( KIng James says "mansions" ).
... and Jesus Himself ( builds? ) prepares these places.
But yet these people in Isaiah 65 build their own houses, plant their own food. It appears they only build their houses for themselves. They only plant and harvest food for themselves.
No one builds a house for someone else. No one shares their food with someone else.
Now there have been a number of studies here about the New Jerusalem coming down from heaven, and likely sitting on Mount Zion. Which makes sense for verse 25.
But are the people in Isa 65 the same people in Rev 22:15; ?
Isa 65:18; "But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create; For behold, I create Jerusalem for rejoicing And her people for gladness.
Isa 65:19; "I will also rejoice in Jerusalem and be glad in My people; And there will no longer be heard in her The voice of weeping and the sound of crying.
Isa 65:20; "No longer will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, Or an old man who does not live out his days; For the youth will die at the age of one hundred And the one who does not reach the age of one hundred Will be thought accursed.
Isa 65:21; "They will build houses and inhabit them; They will also plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
Isa 65:22; "They will not build and another inhabit, They will not plant and another eat; For as the lifetime of a tree, so will be the days of My people, And My chosen ones will wear out the work of their hands.
Isa 65:23; "They will not labor in vain, Or bear children for calamity; For they are the offspring of those blessed by the LORD, And their descendants with them.
Isa 65:24; "It will also come to pass that before they call, I will answer; and while they are still speaking, I will hear.
Isa 65:25; "The wolf and the lamb will graze together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox; and dust will be the serpent's food. They will do no evil or harm in all My holy mountain," says the LORD.
I have a lot of questions about this passage, and the timing of it. I am wondering who these people are?
One day there will be a heaven and a new earth. OK, so far so good.
I am assuming verse 18 is about the New Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven... ok.
But then we have these people... who apparently age. .. and apparently even die... it seems most people will live at least til the age of 100, ( or longer ). Like a tree, but still they die.
This reminds me of the people in the Bible born before Genesis chapter 6. A number of them lived to be 500, 600, or a few cases over 900 years old. ... but eventually they died.
Now if believers get eternal life.... then who are these people who eventually die? Why are they on the new heaven and earth? ( or possibly the New Jerusalem? )
John 14:2; "In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
John 14:3; "If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.
John 14:4; "And you know the way where I am going."
Now it seems in ( His ) Father's house there are many dwelling places.. ( KIng James says "mansions" ).
... and Jesus Himself ( builds? ) prepares these places.
But yet these people in Isaiah 65 build their own houses, plant their own food. It appears they only build their houses for themselves. They only plant and harvest food for themselves.
No one builds a house for someone else. No one shares their food with someone else.
Now there have been a number of studies here about the New Jerusalem coming down from heaven, and likely sitting on Mount Zion. Which makes sense for verse 25.
But are the people in Isa 65 the same people in Rev 22:15; ?