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First let me start off with the obvious here. I am a Trinitarian who believes in the deity of Jesus. Jesus is God. I believe that. Jesus is also my Lord.
Often in the Bible you see the phrase "Lord God". But also, many times you see "Lord and God". I have wondered about that.
Luke 20:37; "But that the dead are raised, even Moses showed, in the passage about the burning bush, where he calls the Lord THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, AND THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB.
Moses calls "the Lord", ... "The God".
Doubting Thomas said to Jesus...
John 20:28; Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"
My Lord ... "and" ... my God. Apparently the Lord, does not always mean the same things as my God.
Acts 2:36; "Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ—this Jesus whom you crucified."
Jesus is "Lord" and "Christ". - He's not just the Son of God, He is also Lord.
Acts 20:21; solemnly testifying to both Jews and Greeks of repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.
It says here .. repentance to God ... "and" ... faith in Jesus. But aren't they the same person? I believe they are. But then why the distinction between the two roles?
Rom 14:6; He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.
This verse they celebrate for the Lord, but they are giving thanks to God by doing so. Again, why the distinction between Lord and God?
Rom 14:11; For it is written, "AS I LIVE, SAYS THE LORD, EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW TO ME, AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL GIVE PRAISE TO GOD."
The Lord says... "praise to God". Why doesn't it say God says every knee will bow? Or, why doesn't it say praise to the Lord? Why mention two specific different roles here?
1Cor 7:17; Only, as the Lord has assigned to each one, as God has called each, in this manner let him walk. And so I direct in all the churches.
Again, let me re-iterate I believe Jesus is Lord and God. But it seems that Lord and God are often different things. Two different capacities, two different roles.
2Tim 2:19; Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness."
Why differentiate God from Lord here?
2Pet 1:2; Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord;
Jude 1:25; to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.
Of course Jesus is our God and Savior, and our Lord. There are more verses I am leaving out due to time. But the point here is... Lord doesn't always mean God and God doesn't always mean Lord.
lord
[lôrd]
noun
someone or something having power, authority, or influence; a master or ruler:
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Some people have landlords, they tell them they can or can't do things to their house and property. When to pay the rent and how much to pay. They decide if you get to keep living there, or if they want to kick you out.
They have power and authority over that particular part of your life.
Rev 4:11; "Worthy are You, our Lord and our God, to receive glory and honor and power; for You created all things, and because of Your will they existed, and were created."
Again.. Jesus is our Lord .. "and" our God. And frequently the words are used together.
Luke 1:68; "Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited us and accomplished redemption for His people,
Acts 3:22; "Moses said, 'THE LORD GOD WILL RAISE UP FOR YOU A PROPHET LIKE ME FROM YOUR BRETHREN; TO HIM YOU SHALL GIVE HEED to everything He says to you.
Rev 1:8; "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."
.. but not always, many times it's Lord and God. So then if it's the same person, why does it matter? I don't know the entire answer, but it mattered enough to God to make the distinction in the Bible.
But there may be many reasons... for example...
Luke 1:43; "And how has it happened to me, that the mother of my Lord would come to me?
It doesn't say the mother of God here, it says the mother of the Lord. Lord does not always equate to God. So, mother may have been mother of the Lord, but she was not the mother of God.
Often in the Bible you see the phrase "Lord God". But also, many times you see "Lord and God". I have wondered about that.
Luke 20:37; "But that the dead are raised, even Moses showed, in the passage about the burning bush, where he calls the Lord THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, AND THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB.
Moses calls "the Lord", ... "The God".
Doubting Thomas said to Jesus...
John 20:28; Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"
My Lord ... "and" ... my God. Apparently the Lord, does not always mean the same things as my God.
Acts 2:36; "Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ—this Jesus whom you crucified."
Jesus is "Lord" and "Christ". - He's not just the Son of God, He is also Lord.
Acts 20:21; solemnly testifying to both Jews and Greeks of repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.
It says here .. repentance to God ... "and" ... faith in Jesus. But aren't they the same person? I believe they are. But then why the distinction between the two roles?
Rom 14:6; He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.
This verse they celebrate for the Lord, but they are giving thanks to God by doing so. Again, why the distinction between Lord and God?
Rom 14:11; For it is written, "AS I LIVE, SAYS THE LORD, EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW TO ME, AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL GIVE PRAISE TO GOD."
The Lord says... "praise to God". Why doesn't it say God says every knee will bow? Or, why doesn't it say praise to the Lord? Why mention two specific different roles here?
1Cor 7:17; Only, as the Lord has assigned to each one, as God has called each, in this manner let him walk. And so I direct in all the churches.
Again, let me re-iterate I believe Jesus is Lord and God. But it seems that Lord and God are often different things. Two different capacities, two different roles.
2Tim 2:19; Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness."
Why differentiate God from Lord here?
2Pet 1:2; Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord;
Jude 1:25; to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.
Of course Jesus is our God and Savior, and our Lord. There are more verses I am leaving out due to time. But the point here is... Lord doesn't always mean God and God doesn't always mean Lord.
lord
[lôrd]
noun
someone or something having power, authority, or influence; a master or ruler:
--------------------
Some people have landlords, they tell them they can or can't do things to their house and property. When to pay the rent and how much to pay. They decide if you get to keep living there, or if they want to kick you out.
They have power and authority over that particular part of your life.
Rev 4:11; "Worthy are You, our Lord and our God, to receive glory and honor and power; for You created all things, and because of Your will they existed, and were created."
Again.. Jesus is our Lord .. "and" our God. And frequently the words are used together.
Luke 1:68; "Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited us and accomplished redemption for His people,
Acts 3:22; "Moses said, 'THE LORD GOD WILL RAISE UP FOR YOU A PROPHET LIKE ME FROM YOUR BRETHREN; TO HIM YOU SHALL GIVE HEED to everything He says to you.
Rev 1:8; "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."
.. but not always, many times it's Lord and God. So then if it's the same person, why does it matter? I don't know the entire answer, but it mattered enough to God to make the distinction in the Bible.
But there may be many reasons... for example...
Luke 1:43; "And how has it happened to me, that the mother of my Lord would come to me?
It doesn't say the mother of God here, it says the mother of the Lord. Lord does not always equate to God. So, mother may have been mother of the Lord, but she was not the mother of God.
