My daughter dying or dead ?

[spirit1st]

Once my little girl got very sick ! she could not hold her head up. her skin had changed colors and she could not open her eyes! My wife and i argued . I wanted to take Her to the church as the bible said ! She wanted to rush HER to the Hospital ! I told Her i would go to the church quickly as they were starting church ! Then if She was not healed take her to the Hospital ! We got to the church ! Many were getting out of there cars ! Some saw, Sarah was very sick and asked ? Why ws i there and not at the hospital ! some started crying seeing Her in such bad shape ! I ran into the church with Her and ran to the Pastor ! And told Him to please do as in James ! He called the elders and started praying for her ! they had there hands on Her while praying ! nothing had happened 1 But soon as they anointed Her with Oil ! Her skin changed to normal , Her Eyes opened up and She picked Her head up ! I find in my life time ? It just a simple act of obeying GOD living words , Has nothing to do with us personally !

 

[Eric E Stahl]

Once my little girl got very sick ! she could not hold her head up. her skin had changed colors and she could not open her eyes! My wife and i argued . I wanted to take Her to the church as the bible said ! She wanted to rush HER to the Hospital ! I told Her i would go to the church quickly as they were starting church ! Then if She was not healed take her to the Hospital ! We got to the church ! Many were getting out of there cars ! Some saw, Sarah was very sick and asked ? Why ws i there and not at the hospital ! some started crying seeing Her in such bad shape ! I ran into the church with Her and ran to the Pastor ! And told Him to please do as in James ! He called the elders and started praying for her ! they had there hands on Her while praying ! nothing had happened 1 But soon as they anointed Her with Oil ! Her skin changed to normal , Her Eyes opened up and She picked Her head up ! I find in my life time ? It just a simple act of obeying GOD living words , Has nothing to do with us personally !

Thank you Father for your mercy!

God is able to heal if he chooses too.

We are to treat illness with medicine also. Take a little wine for your stomach's sake.

 

[Fragrant Grace]

Praise the Lord!!!

 

[Barabbas]

Where exactly in the NT scriptures does it say to take our sick children to the Church?

Where exactly in the NT scriptures does it mention a magical oil is to be used if prayer does not work?

 

[amanda123]

Where exactly in the NT scriptures does it say to take our sick children to the Church?

Where exactly in the NT scriptures does it mention a magical oil is to be used if prayer does not work?

I think in James elders to pray and annoit with oil.

Olive oil not magical oil

Praise the Lord God spirit1st . What a lovley story of healing

 

[amadeus2]

Where exactly in the NT scriptures does it say to take our sick children to the Church?
Where exactly in the NT scriptures does it mention a magical oil is to be used if prayer does not work?

Be slow to doubt and quick to believe. It is by faith we are to live and to obey is better than to sacrifice: "Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him." James 5:14-15

 

[Barabbas]

Slow to doubt, and quick to believe? Is that what the Bereans were praised for?

Oil is not mentioned in most acts of healing in the scriptures. When the the miraculous gifts ceased, this rite ceased in the Church.

 

[amadeus2]

Slow to doubt, and quick to believe? Is that what the Bereans were praised for?

And what then do we think of Thomas who was slow to believe without having seen with his own natural eyes? And Jesus said to him: " Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." John 20:29

Oil is not mentioned in most acts of healing in the scriptures.

"Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid." Matt 5:14 Who are these to whom Jesus spoke as being light? And what happened to those who ran out of oil? "And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. Matt 25:8 It would seem that always having enough "oil" is very important indeed.

When the the miraculous gifts ceased, this rite ceased in the Church.

Are you ever been saved my friend? If your answer is, yes, was this not a miraculous gift? Are you so quick to say that the gifts have ceased because you have never seen them? Before you answer, consider again the answer Jesus gave to Thomas... Consider also why it is that you believe in Jesus who you have not seen with the natural eye.

 

[Fragrant Grace]

Whoso trusteth in the Lord, happy is he
Proverbs 16:20

To God be the glory

Spirit1st's daughter Sarah was healed

Let us praise the Lord and give thanks.

He works in many ways to perform His mighty wonders

Let us not doubt His amazing power


Now unto Him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,
Unto Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
Ephesians 3:20-21

 

[spirit1st]

Sorry i did not put up the Scripture !

Jas 5:13 Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.
Jas 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
Jas 5:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.


God revealed a few ways for us to be healed !

 

[Barabbas]

And what then do we think of Thomas who was slow to believe without having seen with his own natural eyes? And Jesus said to him: " Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." John 20:29
"Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid." Matt 5:14 Who are these to whom Jesus spoke as being light? And what happened to those who ran out of oil? "And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. Matt 25:8 It would seem that always having enough "oil" is very important indeed. Are you ever been saved my friend? If your answer is, yes, was this not a miraculous gift? Are you so quick to say that the gifts have ceased because you have never seen them? Before you answer, consider again the answer Jesus gave to Thomas... Consider also why it is that you believe in Jesus who you have not seen with the natural eye.

Satan is capable of transforming himself into an angel of light yes? Will not the anti-Christ also make signs, and wonders?

Thomas had every right not to believe. And when presented proof he did believe.

Your "reasoning" concerning oil is nonsensical. It has nothing to do with this subject. The oil mentioned is for their lamps, not their bodies. There is a difference.

Yes, I am saved. This again, has nothing to do with the gifts given to the apostles, and early Church. Which ceased....

Tell me why in the last two thousand years do we not have Christian literature filled with accounts of Church elders healing everyone in the Church, and raising the dead?

For instance, the Church the original poster goes to, everyone there..not one of them wears eyeglasses, has a cane, a wheelchair, every member healthy as a horse, yes?

When someone claims a great miracle, or that they have a new revelation, it must be tested, not merely accepted as fact on hearsay.

Anyone is free to believe what they want, I however will be like the Bereans, and examine what is presented to me.

 

[amadeus2]

Satan is capable of transforming himself into an angel of light yes? Will not the anti-Christ also make signs, and wonders?

Thomas had every right not to believe. And when presented proof he did believe.

Your "reasoning" concerning oil is nonsensical. It has nothing to do with this subject. The oil mentioned is for their lamps, not their bodies. There is a difference.

Maybe you should talk to Jesus about this. He is the one who told us about the "lamps" and He is the One who told us that we are the Light of the world.

Yes, I am saved. This again, has nothing to do with the gifts given to the apostles, and early Church. Which ceased....

I am very glad that you are saved. I guess you believe that they have ceased, but have you ever considered the possibility that you are in error?

Tell me why in the last two thousand years do we not have Christian literature filled with accounts of Church elders healing everyone in the Church, and raising the dead?

Have you then read all of the literature? Then again, has everything that has happened been written down?

For instance, the Church the original poster goes to, everyone there..not one of them wears eyeglasses, has a cane, a wheelchair, every member healthy as a horse, yes?

Jesus did not heal everyone that was sick and He without question had the power and authority of God. There is a time to heal as there is a time to kill (Ecc 3:3). It is time when God says that it is... Was there not a time when His disciples who were given to the power to heal definitely failed? (Matt 17:16) The lack of complete healing of all ailments in a given group says nothing against the power of God. Because we are too often faithless does not mean that God cannot heal or that He never answers prayers in the affirmative..

When someone claims a great miracle, or that they have a new revelation, it must be tested, not merely accepted as fact on hearsay.

Why is it then that you believe that Jesus healed people? You certainly were not there to test Him. Do you simply believe it blindly because someone wrote it down in a book that someone else said was inspired by God?

Anyone is free to believe what they want, I however will be like the Bereans, and examine what is presented to me.

So then my friend, how many trips have you made this year or in the last five years to prove the authenticity of reported healings... or have you simply presumed that they were all faked?

"Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel." Psalm 78:41

 

[Barabbas]

It is the faith of the healer, not the faith of the one to be healed as the impediment to being healed.

Have I read all of the literature? No, no one has. But something like raising the dead just might get more than a mere mention.

Jesus did not heal everyone who was sick, true enough, but he did heal all who came to him, yes?

Why is it then that you believe that Jesus healed people? You certainly were not there to test Him. Do you simply believe it blindly because someone wrote it down in a book that someone else said was inspired by God?

This is were your argument dives directly into the asinine. Are you seriously going to use this example? I don't "just believe", I have spent decades researching the scriptures, and am well aware of the basis of our faith.

So then my friend, how many trips have you made this year or in the last five years to prove the authenticity of reported healings... or have you simply presumed that they were all faked?

Why would I have too? What, run around the countryside searching out every gospel tent in search of some supposed healing? Riiiiight.

...And to answer your question, yes, it's fake until proven otherwise.

The lack of complete healing of all ailments in a given group says nothing against the power of God. Because we are too often faithless does not mean that God cannot heal or that He never answers prayers in the affirmative..

Yeah, that's a nice little out, and again, it's the faith of the healer, not the wanna be healed ones. Someone claiming to have the power of healing from God actually has to heal people to prove it.

Why is it we don't see anyone raising the dead?

Look, you want to believe, believe. It doesn't make any difference to me. What I choose to do should not make any difference to you.

 

[amadeus2]

Look, you want to believe, believe. It doesn't make any difference to me. What I choose to do should not make any difference to you.

It may make no difference to flesh, but are we not to be in it for God's love and doesn't it always make a difference to Him? If it does then it certainly should make a difference to us. Why was it that Jesus wept? Some will say it was because He loved Lazarus, but Jesus loved more than Lazarus. He wept for so many who were not hearing His message. Sometimes I have been obtuse and uncaring, but Jesus never was. Shouldn't we want to be that way as well?

 

[Fragrant Grace]

Originally Posted by Barabbas

Satan is capable of transforming himself into an angel of light yes? Will not the anti-Christ also make signs, and wonders?
Thomas had every right not to believe. And when presented proof he did believe.
Your "reasoning" concerning oil is nonsensical. It has nothing to do with this subject. The oil mentioned is for their lamps, not their bodies. There is a difference.

This thread is a testimony of praise to the Lord

spirit1sts daughter Sarah was sick and she was healed

Let us praise the Lord and thank Him , rather than doubt and argue

O give thanks unto the Lord...because His mercy endureth forever
Psalm 118:1

 

[amadeus2]

This thread is a testimony of praise to the Lord

spirit1sts daughter Sarah was sick and she was healed

Let us praise the Lord and thank Him , rather than doubt and argue

O give thanks unto the Lord...because His mercy endureth forever
Psalm 118:1

Amen, sister! I apologize for continuing this here for so long. On my part consider it ended.

 

[Rev T.S.Perkins]

Slow to doubt, and quick to believe? Is that what the Bereans were praised for?

Oil is not mentioned in most acts of healing in the scriptures. When the the miraculous gifts ceased, this rite ceased in the Church.

His miracles have never ceased and are there for us to ask of Him in Jesus name...Jer 33:3 CALL ON ME AND I WILL SHOW GREAT AND MIGHTY WONDERIOUS THINGS YOU KNOW NOT OF .....im sure there are many miracles still being done by God ,,ask any doctor ,or nurse,fireman or policeman..those who deal with the hurting and homless every day..im just a common man but those who deal with uncommon situations will be the first to tell you Miracles do exist and ill be the second ..praise the Lord that His mercys never end towards us and our needs great and small...Rev