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Ecumenical document "Evangelicals and Catholics Together"

There are many religious movements today that may seem new to us. However, most of their ideas and policies have been practiced for centuries. They are put under new names with new faces, but their goals are still the same; to turn people's focus away from God and towards man made ideas and icons.

Ecclesiastes 1: 9b,10

" ...and there is no new thing under the sun. Is there anything whereof it may be said, See this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us."

Charles Colson and Fr. Richard John Neuhaus (Lutheran who converted to Catholicism) authored the ecumenical documents Evangelicals and Catholics Together and Evangelicals and Catholics Together II. The approval for the wording was required to come from Cardinal Edward Idris Cassidy, president of the Vatican's Pontifical Council for promoting Christian Unity.

The second document which was formally released December 8,1997 in Christianity Today included evangelical and Catholic theologians who had met in New York and together adopted the joint statement entitled "The Gift of Salvation" also called "Evangelicals and Catholics Together II."

The statement that was distributed throughout the Internet for several months before the official publishing included Richard Land, head of the Southern Baptist Christian Life Commission, and Bob Seiple (World Vision) as signers, but their names were subsequently omitted in the Christianity Today report with no explanation offered.

"The publication of "The Gift of Salvation" in Christianity Today is accompanied by an introduction by Timothy George, senior adviser to Christianity Today and dean of Beeson Divinity School at the Southern Baptist-supported Samford University in Birmingham, Alabama. George says "The Gift of Salvation" "has been made possible by a major realignment in ecumenical discourse: the coalescence of believing Roman Catholics and faithful evangelicals who both affirm the substance of historic Christian orthodoxy against the ideology of theological pluralism that marks much mainline Protestant thought as well as avant-garde Catholic theology. Thus, for all our differences, Bible-believing evangelicals stand much closer to Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger than to Bishop John Spong!" (George, "Evangelicals and Catholics Together: A New Initiative," Christianity Today, Dec. 8, 1997, p. 34).

For Bob Seiple See: World Vision: A UN Global Vision; World Vision: Institute for Global Engagement & Eastern College

In Atlanta, Georgia at a Pastors conference, Promise Keepers brought together "leadership" from The World Council of Churches, the National Council of Churches, evangelicals, Mormons, and Roman Catholics, including about 600 priests.

Bill McCartney of Promise Keepers says this:

"We have a plan...Baptists... Lutherans...Roman Catholics...we've been divided...but now we're being reunited...! Nobody can go out of here without the same plan...every man connected to a church; every church connected to each other...! (Washington,DC)

But lest it be suggested that Promise Keepers and it's supporter are the only vehicle being used to further the agenda of uniting people and religion, the following should be cause to pause.

Excerpt from: Ecumenical News International
ENI News Service; Vatican official says justification statement can be signed 'without delay'
ENI-98-0415
17 September 1998 by Stephen Brown

"... A senior Vatican official has said that the Roman Catholic Church is ready to sign - "without delay and in its integrity" - a major statement with the Lutheran World Federation (LWF) which aims to resolve a doctrinal dispute dating from the Reformation.
Cardinal Edward Idris Cassidy, president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, said that he was clarifying "misreadings" of the official Catholic response to the "joint declaration on justification", on the basis of which some observers believed the Vatican had given only qualified support to the joint declaration with the LWF, the world's major grouping of Lutheran churches...

The doctrine of justification was a major point of contention between Martin Luther and his followers and the Papacy at the time of the Reformation. The differences led to mutual doctrinal condemnations by Lutherans and Catholics.
A key paragraph in the joint declaration - which was drawn up by a Catholic-Lutheran working group - states that these condemnations do not apply to the Lutheran and Catholic doctrines on justification as they are presented in the declaration. Many Lutherans hope that such a statement will allow significant ecumenical progress with the Roman Catholic Church in other areas..." end quote.

There are many entering into agreements to "unite" the world, either through denominations or causes. However God calls His people to something else.

There are serious issues that cannot be ignored when looking to the Catholic Church. Mary Ann Collins, a former Catholic nun, writing about Catholic issues states:

"The Pope is called “Holy Father” and the Catholic Church is called “Holy Mother Church”. According to “The Catholic Encyclopedia,” the idea of freedom of religion is wrong. People are not supposed to use their own personal judgment to determine their religious beliefs. (This article is online.)

According to Canon Law (the official laws governing the Roman Catholic Church), Catholics are required to submit their minds and wills to any declaration concerning faith or morals which is made by the Pope or by a church council. They are also required to avoid anything that disagrees with such declarations. And they can be coerced if they don’t comply. (You can read these laws online.) [Note 2]

The Catholic Church teaches that only the Magisterium of the Catholic Church (the Pope and the bishops in communion with him) has the right to interpret Scripture. People like us are not allowed to interpret Scripture for ourselves. We have to check it out with Church authorities. (This is online.) [Note 3]

Catholicism teaches that Catholics are supposed to “receive with docility” any directives given to them by Catholic Church authorities. (This is online.) [Note 4]

Catholicism teaches that there is no salvation apart from the Catholic Church, its sacramental system, the priesthood, and the Pope

The Bible says, “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers”. (2 Corinthians 6:14) By Biblical standards, the Catholic Church presents a Gospel that is badly distorted. It is salvation by “Jesus plus”. Jesus plus the Catholic Church. Jesus plus the sacraments. Jesus plus good works. Jesus plus Catholic tradition.

This is contrary to Scripture. The Apostle Paul said that requiring people to be circumcised nullifies the grace of God, with the result that people are not saved. It is such a serious thing that “Christ is become of no effect unto you” and you “are fallen from grace”. In other words, Jesus Christ no longer does you any good. (Galatians 5:1-4)

If just being required to add circumcision nullifies the grace of God, then what happens when you are required to add the sacraments and the Pope and Catholic tradition and good works and the Catholic magisterium? [The “magisterium” is the official teaching authority of the Roman Catholic Church.]

Catholics have faith in the Catholic Church. (Their faith in Jesus Christ is through the Catholic Church, rather than directly in Jesus Himself.) Their rule of faith is the “Catechism of the Catholic Church” and other official Catholic documents. This includes the Catholic Bible, as interpreted by the Catholic magisterium..."

http://www.CatholicConcerns.com



A Little History

Freemasonry is one group that claims many fronts and forms, but whose goals and philosophy are embraced by adherents, as the "Universal Religion". Through much research into history one will find many other groups that have tried to unite different people and religions into one religion. One major conflict to that agenda was the Reformation. It was a major turning point for Christianity but also a time when the Catholic Church was grieved for those who chose to follow the Protestant religion. That grief has never subsided.

Since that time Rome has developed strategies and policies to bring "the lost sheep" back into the fold, under the required leadership of the Pope, while many outside the Catholic faith work their way back to Rome.

Many of those strategies were discussed in the book, "The Secret History of The Oxford Movement" by Walter Walsh, 1899. Though Walsh was writing about the work of the Catholic church in his time, many of the thoughts and ideas are applicable to many Christian organizations and leaders today.

The book was written as an expose on the secret societies and movement of the Society of the Holy Cross, "Ritualists and Romanizers" in the 1800's. Walsh wrote, "Secret Ritualistic Societies have now come into existence, and they are increasing in number every year... At present the Church of England is literally honeycombed with Secret Societies, all working in the interests of the scheme for the Corporate Reunion of the Church of England with the Church of Rome. These secret plotters are the real wire-pullers of the Ritualistic Movement.... report of speeches delivered in the secret meetings of Secret Societies, and of Semi-Secret Societies, several of them by men who have since risen to positions of eminence in the Church of England. (Pg. xxxviii Preface)

Quoting from Jesuits and those who were Catholic or Catholic sympathizers or supporters, Walsh recounted,

"......Cardinal Newman... 1833 as the start of the Tractarian Movement. Within three months from that date he published his work on the "Arians of the Fourth Century", in which the "Disciplina Arcani", or the "secret teaching", which found such favour...Newman himself. "If," he writes, "it is necessary to contrast the two with each other, the one may be considered as withholding the truth, and the other as setting it out to advantage." (Chapter 1, page 1) …he quotes with approval …advice of Clement of Alexandria: "The Alexandrian father," he affirms, "who has already been quoted, accurately describes the rules which should guide the Christian in speaking and writing economically... Whatever is in his mind is also on his; towards those who are fit recipients, both in speaking and living, he harmonizes his profession with his thoughts. He thinks and speaks the truth; except where careful treatment is necessary, and then, as a physician for the good of his patients, he will LIE, or rather utter a LIE, as the Sophists say…Nothing, however, but his neighbour’s good will lead him to do this. He gives himself up for the church". (Pg. 2)

While what Newman presented was supposedly for people of faith he admits that it didn't come from the Word of God, although that should not really be a surprise when you read it.

"...It is worthy of note that Newman affirmed that these secret doctrines were not learnt from the Scriptures. ..he writes, "How was any secrecy practicable, seeing that the Scriptures were open to everyone who chose to consult them?…the secret doctrines of the early church, have never been learnt merely from Scripture"…Surely the Sacred Volume was never intended, and is not adapted, to teach us our Creed". (pg 2)

"Pusey wrote:

..."I know not that the Popish controversy may not just be the very best way of handling Ultra-Protestantism, i.e., neglecting it, not advancing against, but setting Catholic views against Roman Catholicism and so disposing of Ultra-Protestantism by a side wind, and teaching people Catholicism, without their suspecting, while they are only bent on demolishing Romanism. I suspect we might thus have people with us, instead of against us, and that they might find themselves Catholics before they were aware." (Pg. 10.)

Many people are caught up in the ritualism and manner of the Catholic church, while denying it their "verbal support." We find the same thinking and behavior throughout all religions. Lip service is nothing new, and those claiming to belong to Jesus Christ are cautioned about this very thing.

Revelation 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

A plan was devised to bring Protestants back into the Roman Catholic Church.

"The English clergy were formerly too attached to the Articles of Faith to be shaken from them. …to reunite them to the Romish Church; and so the Jesuits of England employed another plan. This was to demonstrate from history…the legitimacy of the usages of the English Church, whence, through the exertions of the Jesuits concealed among its clergy, might arise a studious attention to Christian antiquity. This was designed to occupy clergy in long, laborious and abtruse investigation, and to alienate them from their Bibles."

" …a Roman priest asked Desanctis: "But …would be for the greater glory of God, that all the Puseyites (followers of Dr.Pusey) should become Catholics?" "No my son, the Puseyite movement must be left alone that it may bring forth fruit. If all the Puseyites were to declare themselves Catholics, the Movement would be at an end. Protestants would be alarmed, and the whole gain of the Catholic Church would be reduced to some million of individuals and no more. From time to time it is well that one of the Puseyite leaders should become a Catholic, in order that, under our instructions, the Movement may be better conducted, but it would not be desirable for many of them to come over to Catholicism. Puseyism is a living testimony to the necessity of Catholicism in the midst of our enemies; it is a worm at the root which, skillfully nourished by our exertions, will waste Protestantism till it is destroyed." (Pg 32-33)

We are constantly on information overload and activity overload, where we fill our time with everything but the study of the Word of God and time with Him.

Walsh claims the Society of the Holy Cross consisted of the following consisted of "of Bishops, Priests, Deacons, and candidates for Holy Orders." .. "The Objects of the Society" are,... "to maintain and extend the Catholic faith and Discipline…" (Pg. 48)

Amidst controversy, the Society, instead of being perceived wrong, reconstructed:

...(After controversy the issue of disbanding the Society was discussed) " …to dissolve would be to create confusion in certain minds, and would involve some loss of self-respect; if we dissolved we acknowledged ourselves to be in the wrong, and destroyed the great instrument we had for promoting the Catholic Revival in this country.... the Society had been rushed into the midst of its foes, and was now surrounded, and in danger of being cut to pieces. There was nothing for it but to "take open order,’ to skirmish as it were for a time, to pass through our enemies and re-form in a stronger position…. he (Rev. E.G. Wood) counseled disbanding the Society, with the view of thereby escaping …reconstructing the Society under the same or a similar title….(pg 130-131)

Note—they voted not to disband.

"The Order of Corporate Reunion is even more secret… than the Society of the Holy Cross…more Popish…acknowledging the Pope as the Lawful Head of the whole visible Church on earth…. supplying the rank and file of the Ritualist, in the Church of England, with the Roman doctrine and ritual for which they craved... the real object …to bring not only themselves, but the whole Church of England with them, back to the Pope—and this is what is meant by Corporate Reunion. (Chapter 5, pg. 147...)

The idea was, give people what they are looking for and they won’t look any further. It appeared to work, and continues to do so today.

Chapter IX of this book entitled, "The Romeward Movement", probably holds some of the most controversial yet relevant statements of the whole book. The thinking and strategies to move all people back to Rome continues today at a rate that is phenomenal.

"If the Majority of the Church of England could have been induced to accept the views of these advanced Romanizers, she would have been sufficiently "Catholicised" for reunion with the Papacy. ...The romanizers…. thought they were, even then, within a measurable distance of the realization of their hopes. So full of expectation…Their Roman Catholic brethren must be let into the secret. So an anonymous letter was sent…now known, the author was Rev. W. G. Ward (a letter published 1841)…. From this very remarkable and thoroughly Jesuitical letter, I give the following extracts: ---

"You see, then sir, that humility, the first condition of every sound reform, is not wanting in us. We are little satisfied with our position... We groan at the sins committed by our ancestors in separating from the Catholic world. We experience a Burning desire to be reunited to our brethren. We love with unfeigned affection the Apostolic See, which we acknowledge to be the head of Christendom; and the more so because the Church of Rome is our mother, which sent from her bosom the blessed Saint Augustine, to bring us her immovable faith. We admit also, that it is not our formularies, or even the Council of Trent, which prevent our union. After all these concessions, you may ask me, why, then, do you not rejoin us? What is it that prevents you?… "There are at this moment, in the Anglican Church, a crowd of persons who balance between Protestantism and Catholicism, and who, nevertheless, would reject with horror the very idea of a union with Rome. The Protestant prejudice, which, for three hundred years, have infected our Church, are unhappily to deeply rooted there to be extirpated without a great deal of address. [Did he not really mean sly cunning?] We must, then, offer in sacrifice to God this ardent desire that devours us of seeing once more the perfect unity of the church of Christ. We must still bear the terrible void which the isolation of our Church creates in our hearts, and remains still until it pleases God to convert the hearts of our Anglican confreres, especially of our holy fathers, the bishops. We are destined, I am persuaded, to bring back many wandering sheep to the knowledge of the truth. In fact, the progress of Catholic opinions in England, for the last seven years, is so inconceivable that no hope should appear extravagant. Let us, then, remain quiet for some years, TILL, BY GOD’S BLESSING, THE EARS OF ENGLISHMEN ARE BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO HEAR THE NAME OF ROME PRONOUNCED WITH REVERENCE. At the end of this term you will soon see the fruits of our patience." (Pg. 280)

"(Removing the Barriers) …1867, the authorities of the Society of the Holy Cross were busily engaged in securing signatures…at the first Lambeth Conference. The Romeward leanings of the society…. This document will be read … all who love the freedom of the Church of England, and believe that it would be a sin to join the Roman communion… "We are mindful of efforts made in former time by English and foreign Bishops and theologians to effect, by mutual explanations on either side, a reconciliation between the Roman and Anglican Communions. And, considering the intimate and visible union which existed between the Church of England and the rest of Western Christendom, we earnestly entreat your lordships seriously to consider the best means of renewing like endeavors, and to adopt such measures as may, under the guidance of God’s Holy Spirit, be effectual in REMOVING THE BARRIERS which now divide the Western Branch of the Catholic Church." (Pg. 324)

The strategies and thoughts are found in groups such as Promise Keepers whose leadership have stated:

" We believe that we have a 'God-given mission' to unite Christian men who are separated by race, sectarianism, age, culture and economics... the biblical directive to be 'ambassadors of reconciliation' compels us to breakdown the walls that have divided and polarized the Body of Christ for too long." (Promise Keepers Statement of Faith, Promise Keepers 1996 magazine, pg.5)

Also in the PK pamphlet "Biblical Unity & Biblical Truth: a Necessary Tension", we find the split of the Christian church discussed.

"...for the first thousand years, there was but one recognized Church....the first major division...resulting in the Eastern Orthodox and the Roman Catholic Churches...another fracture occurred leading to the creation of the Protestant Church. Protestanism...the formation of a myriad of denominations and sects, each intending in its own way to maintain the purity of the Gospel and uphold Biblical Christianity...the Ecumenical Movement. Intending a broad-based reunification,...In view of history, and in spite of the difficulties involved, Promise Keepers believes the Lord is calling Christian men to denominational reconciliation... sought to find the common ground upon which all Christians can unite....Therefore, while Promise Keepers desires to call men of all Christian denominations together in Biblical unity, that unity must be based on the historically essential truths of Christianity..."

Going by the historical presentation in their document, Promise Keepers leadership and adherents believe that each denominational split from the original Church are to be considered part of the denominational reconciliation and unity. Finding common ground in this way, although claiming to be based on the Biblical truth of Christ, is really the same concept as the secular "unity in diversity". Unity on the things we can agree on, tolerance and respect for the things we disagree with.

"(Appendix PG 380) - Reunion with Rome (what the Ritualists Teach) " We have no wish to revile the faith of Roman Catholics, for it is the same faith of our own; we have no wish to insult their worship, for we worship God in the same Eucharist;…The real difference in the matters of faith between a sincere and intelligent Roman Catholic and a Catholic-minded member of the Church of England is the merest shadow of a shade. Each refers to Holy Scriptures, each refers to the history of the Church through its eighteen centuries of existence, as the real test of the truth of its doctrines, and the difference between them therefore cannot be great. The spirit of schism would lead each to magnify difference to the greatest possible extent, but the spirit of Christian faith and love will lead to a different conclusion. Two things we know for certain, …Catholic Unity is a plain Christian duty; and secondly that there can be no such thing as Catholic Unity without the Bishop of Rome as the lawful Primate and President of Christendom…."

"Of course to those whose cry is ‘No peace with Rome’, and whose glory is in the shame of divided Christendom, it [i.e. Corporate Union] is a thing as incredible as hateful, the wish that it may ever be so is the father to the thought; … What we have to strive and pray for is the restoration of the outward, visible, corporate manifestation of that unity. Do, brethren, consider seriously these things, and be not lead away by blind prejudice, and by that insensate outcry against Rome and Popery."

What has been taking place throughout the religious world is a culmination and continuation of this thinking. It did not stop. It did not fade away. It simply has manifested itself with different people and groups embracing and forwarding the agenda.

Scripture always provides a clear course of action for any situation we encounter.

2 Corinthians 6:14-18

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, and be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."


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Faiths Heal Ancient Rift Over Faith
Catholics, Lutherans End Doctrinal Dispute

By Charles Trueheart
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, November 1, 1999; Page A01

AUGSBURG, Germany, Oct. 31—Four hundred and eighty-two years
ago today, the blunt-speaking monk Martin Luther nailed his legendary
attack on Catholic Church practices to a church door in Germany, an act
of conscience that triggered the Protestant Reformation
--the wrenching
division of Western Christianity--and more than a century of religious wars
that killed hundreds of thousands.

Today, the heirs of that acrimony and fracture, the leaders of the modern
Lutheran and Roman Catholic churches, signed a document that officially
settles the central argument about the nature of faith that Luther provoked.

The agreement declares, in effect, that it was all a misunderstanding.
"In the one Spirit we were all baptized into one body. Let us then pursue
all that makes for peace and builds up our common life," proclaimed
Catholic Cardinal Edward Idris Cassidy, Pope John Paul II's emissary, as
he signed the Augsburg accord on behalf of more than a billion Roman
Catholics worldwide. All but 3 million of the world's 61.5 million Lutherans
were represented by Bishop Christian Krause, president of the Lutheran
World Federation, and by the Rev. Ishmael Noko, the federation's general
secretary.

Hundreds of clerics and theologians, many in flowing robes of purple,
white or black, trod quietly through the sunny streets of this old Bavarian
city where Luther had two momentous confrontations--in 1518 and
1530--with the Catholic hierarchy.
The church leaders moved from Mass at the Catholic Basilica of St. Ulrich
and Afra to the blessing and signing of the accord at the Lutheran Church
of St. Anna. Cross-faith services around the world today echoed the
Augsburg ceremony.

The agreement is significant beyond the dispute over doctrine that it
resolves. It has deep implications for future relations among Catholics and
Protestants, said theologians and church leaders. Many said the accord
gives added promise to the ideal their denominations champion--of full
communion, or merger, between the churches.

"This is a critical breakthrough; it's the first major step toward
reconciliation between the two churches since the Reformation," said the
Rev. H. George Anderson, presiding bishop of the Evangelical Lutheran
Church in America and one of the negotiators and signers of today's
agreement.
"Now we understand we have creeds in common, and that removes the
taint of heresy from both sides," Anderson said. "It's the difference
between handling each other as if we were prickly sea urchins and being
able to shake hands."

The broader movement toward Christian reunification, called ecumenism,
has inspired extraordinary dialogues and built bridges across ancient
ecclesiastical and theological canyons--especially as the calendar has
moved toward the 2,000th anniversary of the birth of Jesus. They have
gone hand in hand with a loosening and even reinvention of church
traditions--of worship, of language, of music, of ministry--from the
dropping of Latin in the Catholic Mass to the ordination of women in most
Protestant denominations.

Now, as the Augsburg accord suggests, the value of separate
denominations is under question. The Lutheran-Catholic concord "is one of
the most important ecumenical moments of the century," said the Rev.
Joseph Komonchak, professor of theology at Washington's Catholic
University. "This document appears to be saying that the doctrine that
Luther thought was central to the Reformation, and which led him to
undertake it, is not one on which there are serious enough differences
between Catholics and Lutherans to justify the division of the church. And
that is a pretty big statement
," he said.
"If in Luther's time you had had a comparable willingness to listen and hear
what the other side was saying, it's quite possible the break would not have
been so severe," Komonchak added.

The impact of the accord will be gentle if not imperceptible to American
Lutheran and Catholic churchgoers, although clergy in Augsburg said the
two flocks are likely to see much more of one another in joint occasions,
exchanges and fellowship. Strains on Catholic-Lutheran marriages, too,
may be eased.
There are 61 million Catholics in the United States and 5.2 million
American Lutherans whose churches belong to the worldwide federation;
2.6 million other Lutherans belong to the Missouri Synod, a branch that
rejected the accord.

The argument that has preoccupied Lutheran and Catholic negotiators for
more than 30 years involves what is called the doctrine of justification.
Lutherans have believed that faith alone, an acceptance of God renewed
every day, ensures eternal salvation. The Catholic Church has long taught
that salvation comes from the sum total of faith and good works--that a life
of devotion and service on Earth earns the faithful the key to heaven.
The key language of today's Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of
Justification appears to give decisive weight to the Lutheran position on
salvation through faith, while embracing an ethic of earthly service
championed by Catholics
.

"There are no winners and losers," said Augsburg Bishop Viktor Josef
Dammertz. "We are Christians of different backgrounds, but we are all on
the same path--seeking the truth of God."
Anderson, the American Lutheran leader, said of the protracted
negotiations in which he participated, "We realized we were not as far
apart as we thought, that we were just using different vocabularies."
Luther's teachings on "justification by faith" drew him a succession of
ecclesiastical confrontations, denunciations and bans. Ever since the
1545-1563 Council of Trent, the Catholic Church's official condemnations
of Luther's teachings have stood on the books, as have Lutheran
condemnations of Catholicism's "justification by works."

Wars over the churches' influence and the murder and persecution of
Protestants and Catholics raged in Europe until the mid-17th century.
Among many Christians around the world who inherited the divisions,
bitterness and mutual suspicion still linger. With this accord, the official
condemnations have been lifted--deemed not to apply to the two churches'
new understanding of justification.

Does the doctrine have any contemporary relevance?
"Far too many Christians today, I believe, are tempted to think that they
are justified not so much by faith as by material success, or by political
correctness, or by charismatic experience, or by pious acts, or by good
deeds of a humanitarian nature," said the Rev. J. Robert Wright, a church
historian at General Theological Seminary in New York and an ecumenical
leader in the Episcopal Church. "These are cheap and inadequate
substitutes," he said, for "the basic truth of the gospel--that it is by faith
alone, by grace through faith, that we are set right with God."

Conspicuous among the mostly conservative Lutherans not subscribing to
the accord are those who belong to the Missouri Synod. According to the
Rev. A. L. Barry, its president, the Catholic Church has "not budged" since
the Council of Trent's insistence on justification by works.
John Wilson, editor of Books & Culture, a magazine of ideas that
circulates among evangelical Christians, said, "Many people see this as a
desperate gesture that confirms that all established historic church bodies
have lost their distinctive faith commitments."

But, Wilson said, "Others have a more hopeful perspective--that we have
finally left behind the flabby ecumenism of the '60s, which was more about
social issues, and that Protestants and Catholics are having serious talks
about doctrine and healing their divisions."
Jude 1:3-4 (NIV) Dear friends. . . I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints. For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

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thank you for you post. I agree with you on the Reformation Doctrine of Justification by Faith alone. It is being misread and words have been changed to attempt to bring the "lost sheep" back the Roman Catholic fold. It is very deceptive, being brought in by wolves in sheep's clothing.

We are acceped of the Father and justified before him, by faith alone in the credited or imputed righteousness of God which is in Jesus Christ. We are saved by God's mercy and grace by faith in His Son.. We accept this truth by faith as that is what it says in the scriptures.

Today men are trying to apply "works" to the gospel, which is not true. We are saved without works before God and our sins are not imputed to us.

Is this what you believe also as the gospel alone?
 
There is only one way to the Father

No matter what others speculate and wish, the scriptures state their is only one way to the Father and through Jesus, our mediator, our High Priest, our King. He is the open door and no man can shut it. We can come to the Father through the name of Jesus and His merits. What a privilege to come before Him in time of need!!

"He is our hope and our inspiration. I believe in Him, for His faithful love to me. He has been my help in time of need. He is the Rock of my salvation and the strength of my life".

This is a song that I like by the "Maranatha Singers" I am listening to it now. Christian music plays an important part of my spiritual life.

So thankful to have found this site. I hope many others will post on it. I will send it to my friends, so they can join.
 
"No matter what others speculate and wish, the scriptures state their is only one way to the Father and through Jesus, our mediator, our High Priest, our King. He is the open door and no man can shut it." AMEN! Glory to God!
 
Reading such articles reminds us that the Roman Catholic hierarchy have not, even yet, recovered from the mighty work which the reformation movement accomplished in England. We (the West) were delivered by God Almighty form the jackboot of papal authority.

This paved the way for the Nation to be based upon a biblical footing, Which brought God's blessing, up to the last 15 years or so. Such freedom of thought, unshackled from papal dogma, and its obsenities, put the Great in Great Britain, and to this day has never been equalled. Indeed it will not again be matched, untill He comes to rule, whose right it is.

He shall reign from river to river, and from shore to shore, popes, Kings of the earth, mighty men, will bow and acknowledge Jesus be the only Saviour of men.
 
In the light of the push for jihad by Islamic”s, could it be the coming world religion that will seek the destruction of Judaism and Christianity?
Warren
 
All I can think of when reading your article was this scripture:
2 Peter 2:22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire."
 
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