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Please Help me. Mark of the Beast, Daniel 7 25

slimsavery

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Hi There

I’m new to the forums and pretty new to my understanding of Christianity in some parts.

I’m 29 years old and for the past few years I have suffered with OCD – Obsessive Compulsive disorder. My problems all related to the number 13 and doing things in my life for the last time ( for example if I saw a 13 when buying a t shirt of a certain person I would have to buy another T shirt off that same person until I saw another number ). I was very scared of this number

I am pleased to say I have overcome this problem with a few sessions from a local psychologist and my local Church and reverend, which is a Church Of England Church. First of all I hope these forums apply to me if I use a Church Of England Church? and secondondly the reverend really helped me to realise that my problems with numbers were physical and not spiritual, but there are still a few issues that bother me.

It got to the stage with My OCD that I was writing GOD on my arm so if I did something for the last time I would not go to hell. Silly I know but from here on I was convinced that I would go to hell as I was committing Idolatry by writing God on my arm and that after reading Thessalonians 2.2 that I had been allowed to believe a lie.

From here on I started researching on the internet and discovered that in scripture the number 13 is the devils number which made me feel worse and convinced I had received the mark of the beast. For a while I even thought the False Prophet from Revelation 13 might just be a 13 and if I had done something for the last time at 13.00 hours I would have received the mark of the beast! Thankfully I have stopped thinking this but recently something else has started to bother me regarding the Mark of the Beast

I read this from Stewarton Bible School Scotland website

“In the light of these facts, therefore, we cannot help but conclude: that the bogus religious festivals (Sunday, Christmas, Easter etc.) are in reality the Signature of Satan, the Mark of the Beast! “

From here on I have become very worried that If in my life I have worshipped on a Sunday than I would have received the Mark of the Beast. It states that if you use a Sunday as the Sabbath then it is/ will be the Mark of the Beast. Is this true or is the fellow a False Prophet himself? I am also worried as my Job in television requires me to sometimes work Saturdays and Sundays that I again could receive the mark. However as far as I was aware it is the False Prophet who gives the mark and as far as I know no False Prophet has changed the Sabbath days?

I have been reassured from certain articles from got questions website regarding the Sabbath and that there is no requirement for a Christian to use a Sabbath and no where does it say that it is the Mark of the Beast if you do worship on a Sunday or work on a Saturday or a Sunday. I am looking for reassurance that If I have been to church on a Sunday or work at the weekends that I am not going to get the Mark of the Beast. To find the articles from got questions just type Sabbath into the search function

Thank you for reading this, it has been hard for me to write this and hope I can get some peace from my uncertainty

David
 
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Hi Slimsavery ,
It's great that you're seeking answers but I think (from what I've read) you have already found your answer and have been reasured. What concerns me is, if you are a new Christian wanting to know more about Christ and Christianity, you need to go straight to the Word of God because it is the Truth and more reliable than any website.

"All scriptures is inspired by God and is useful for teaching the truth, rebuking error, correcting falts, and giving instructions for right living,.." 2 Timothy 3:16.
Although I know this is a website, but your relationship with God must be based from the Word of God, the Bible. Christian websites are designed to encourage our faith but not to be the sole source of our walk with the Lord (after all some may mislead you, if you don't know your Bible). Read the Gospel and know that if you have confessed your sins and accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you are a Child of God. The only mark you have as a Child of God is the mark of ownership of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the Devil has no authority over your life - as long as you live according to the will of God.
"We know that no child of God keeps on sinning, for the Son of God keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him. We know that we belong to God even though the whole world is under the rule of the Evil one. We know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we know the true God. We live in union with the true God in union with his son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and this is eternal life."
1 John 5:18-20.

Get to know your Bible and receive understanding from the Lord through meditation and prayer. Once you know your Bible and no who you are in the Lord, not even the Devil can shake you. Remember, if you have accepted Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, you are Eternally God's, and as long as you live in the ways of the Lord, there is nothing the Devil can do about it.
Be at peace in the name of Jesus
Godbless!
 
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My brother David,

First of all, I'm very sorry to hear all that. First of all, Rev. 13:17. Notice he will make everyone have is mark on the Right Head or the Forehead. We you said above is not a Mark of Beast. Everyone must have an opportunity to accept this mark. This is satan work, he just try to deceive you and keep you from believe in King of all Kings, Lord of all Lords. Don't fear him. For each time he do this to you. Close you eyes and ask God's blood to cover you. And in the name: Jesus of Naxaret cast him out. That is God's promise to us. Mark 16:17. Our God is much more powerful than him, don't fear him. What fit the profiles of the mark of the beast is Mondex Smartcard. It is a technology soon to be use, it will be inserted into people right hand and fore head. Mostly in the right hand. May God Blesses Us all and be wise in him. Brother David each time you're worry or scare the satan are attacking you. Keep battling back and asked God for strength. Jacob 4:7.

In Christ,
Quoc Thinh
 
Thankyou for your message just to check when you say

" Remember, if you have accepted Jesus as your
Lord and Saviour, you are Eternally God's, and as long as you live in the ways
of the Lord, there is nothing the Devil can do about it" does that include celebrtaing christmas and Easter as living in the ways of the Lord?


Thanks again for your replies, it means a lot to me
 
and to reply to the second post - thanks again , when you say " Everyone must have an opportunity to accept this mark" - does this mean we will have a choice, rather than it just forced on us by mistake

Thanks again everyone
 
Most likely force, but you can chose to not accepted it. Rev. 13:17 read it....Just read the whole Ch. 13 to get the points across. 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or[f] the name of the beast, or the number of his name....This tell us it's a force because of economic reasons.
 
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Dear David, I'm so sorry for your troubles. The devil will try to take your joy in the Lord by messing with your head. Believe in what our Lord has said:
"And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand". (John 10:28) You are safe in the Lord's hands. He will never let you go! That's a fact.
Also, "So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is Christ." (Colossians 2:16). This is a warning against legalism. We are under the covenant of grace not the law.
Trust in God's word. It is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
May God bless you and comfort you.
Amy
 
I will pray for you brother. I have a Christian reference book for counseling, and I think the below Scripture would apply. God bless you

2 Peter 1:5-6
5For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue,and virtue with knowledge, 6and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness

2 Corinthians 10:5
We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ

1 Thessalonians 5:4-8
4But you are not in darkness, brothers, for that day to surprise you like a thief. 5For you are all children of light, children of the day. We are not of the night or of the darkness. 6So then let us not sleep, as others do, but let us keep awake and be sober. 7For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, are drunk at night. 8But since we belong to the day, let us be sober, having put on the breastplate of faith and love, and for a helmet the hope of salvation

Titus 2:11-12
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, 12training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age
 
Thankyou all for your kind words. Its been really horrible thinking that I was doomed etc. I am now feeling a bit better thanks to all your replies. does anyone actually belive that that article from the stewarton bible school is correct? I mean it really frightened me, but i am realsising that once I am saved I am saved for ever - i think. I mean can a christain therfore get the mark of the beast? I would think not but i guess what I have to realise is that no one knows for sure what the mark of the beast is and that in any case the False Prophet is the one who gives the mark so the stewarton bible school views do not make any sense. What are your thoughts on this?
 
slimsavery said:
does anyone actually belive that that article from the stewarton bible school is correct?

Stick with the Holy Bible strictly. It is authored by the Holy Spirit, not man like that article.

Glad your feeling better!
 
Thanks Chad, Ill do that and stick to the bible. Can i just confirm for my understanding of what I have read in the bible that it is the False Prophet who causes the mark to be taken?

Thanks again to everyone who has made me feel so much better

david
 
The false prophet causes all who reject the truth, to worship the antichrist (ie man of sin) and to worship his image, and to take a mark for buying or selling.

The second beast of Rev 13 is the false prophet...

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by [the means of] those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
 
Hi there

Thanks for all your replies recently - i am feeling a lot more reassured. Just one quick question - regarding the passage in Revelation 13

"16He also forced everyone (all ), small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name"

The words everyone or all as it appears in other translations are bothering me. Does this mean that everybody on earth will take the mark, because from what I have understood ( even replies to this thread ) have stated that we will get a choice, Therefore how can he force everyone or all to take this mark?

Thanks for your time

David
 
Hi - to add to my previous post - i guess the term evryone or all means that eveyone will be made to take this mark - just like the new UK ID cards that they are trying to get everyone to have. However this doesnt mean that EVERYONE will take it, just that the False Prophet will try to get eveyone to take it by making it compulsury. Is this correct?

any help would be greatly appreicated
 
slimsavery said:
Hi there

Thanks for all your replies recently - i am feeling a lot more reassured. Just one quick question - regarding the passage in Revelation 13

"16He also forced everyone (all ), small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name"

The words everyone or all as it appears in other translations are bothering me. Does this mean that everybody on earth will take the mark, because from what I have understood ( even replies to this thread ) have stated that we will get a choice, Therefore how can he force everyone or all to take this mark?

Thanks for your time

David

In the book of Daniel it says that some escape him (ie if all the nations take the mark Christ will be ruleing the damed for a thousand years. So yes not all will take the mark, the saints will rule with him as well. By all here it probably means all who are not written in the lambs book of life that are in his power, or decieved and worship him at that time. Yes their is a warning not to worship the Antichrist in revelation, all will get a chance to call out to God as the prophet Joel said, and it shall come to pass that all who call on the name of the lord will be saved. I would give scripture and verse here but im not on my computer and my bible is on it...

God bless
 
slimsavery said:
Hi - to add to my previous post - i guess the term evryone or all means that eveyone will be made to take this mark - just like the new UK ID cards that they are trying to get everyone to have. However this doesnt mean that EVERYONE will take it, just that the False Prophet will try to get eveyone to take it by making it compulsury. Is this correct?

any help would be greatly appreicated

Yes something like that

If your nation follows him, you will be given a chance to worship him or die by beheading. But their might be a rapture of the saints prior to his wrath.

Good questions:star:

God bless
 
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