Sabbath Obligation?

[BlessedCreator]

When I first came to the truth of the Bible and realized that we need to obey God's will to
be saved, one of the things that I was unsure of, until I searched the scriptures, was whether or
not I needed to keep the Sabbath day or not. As I knew it was something God commanded the Israelites
to keep. But was it something Christians needed to?

Scripture makes it clear that Christians do not have to keep the Sabbath.

Colossians 2:16
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of
an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:"

From Ellicott's commentary on Colossians 2:16
"It is obvious that St. Paul gives no hint of any succession of the Lord's Day to be,
in any strict sense, a "Christian Sabbath." We know, indeed, that the Jewish Sabbath itself
lingered in the Church, as having a kind of sacredness, kept sometimes as a fast, sometimes
as a festival. But its observance was not of obligation. No man was to "judge" others in respect of it."

In the book of Acts in chapter 21 verse 25, Paul is speaking on things regarding the customs of the Jews,
and what, if any, should the gentiles keep.
"As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no
such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered
to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication."

If the Sabbath was something to be kept under the new covenant,
I believe it would have been mentioned here.

Mark 2:23-28
"And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his
disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn. And the Pharisees said
unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful? And he said
unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they
that were with him? How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high
priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and
gave also to them which were with him? And he said unto them, The sabbath was
made for man, and not man for the sabbath: therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath."

Those that are in Christ under grace through faith are not under the Law
neither the commandments of Moses. Though I will say, besides the Sabbath commandment, the other 9 commandments
are taught (some indirectly) in the New Testament.

Romans 6:14
"For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace."

 

[BlessedBeyondBelief]

God commanded it.
Jesus did it.
I follow Jesus, sooo.

*Shrugs*

Pretty clear to me. Just on here to share, not debate because ...
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of
an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days" Col2:16

 

[rstrats]

BlessedCreator,
re: "Scripture makes it clear that Christians do not have to keep the Sabbath. Colossians 2:16 'Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:'"

But in respect with regard to what concerning holydays, new moons or sabbath days.?

 

[Brother Paul]

God commanded it.
Jesus did it.
I follow Jesus, sooo.

*Shrugs*

Pretty clear to me. Just on here to share, not debate because ...
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of
an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days" Col2:16

True that Jesus did it as was His custom but not because it is Torah (which it is not). There is NO commandment in Torah to leave your place and go to any Tabernacle. Temple OR Synagogue on the 7th day Sabbath. This "custom" or tradition was developed in the land of Babylon (during the Captivity) and established when they returned. The Torah is clear you should stay home and not go out of your place on the Sabbath. It is not the day for congregational worship (which is commanded to be observed only three times a year)/ No debate just the truth of the word of God. Oh yes and Jesus also wore a Tallith...do you? and He also celebr4ated Hannukah...do you? These were also His custom....

You are not wring or bad OR right and good for keeping the 7th day, It simply is not "obeying God" to gather together for corporate worship on that day. It is NOT commanded.

 

[BlessedBeyondBelief]

True that Jesus did it as was His custom but not because it is Torah (which it is not). There is NO commandment in Torah to leave your place and go to any Tabernacle. Temple OR Synagogue on the 7th day Sabbath. This "custom" or tradition was developed in the land of Babylon (during the Captivity) and established when they returned. The Torah is clear you should stay home and not go out of your place on the Sabbath. It is not the day for congregational worship (which is commanded to be observed only three times a year)/ No debate just the truth of the word of God. Oh yes and Jesus also wore a Tallith...do you? and He also celebr4ated Hannukah...do you? These were also His custom....

You are not wring or bad OR right and good for keeping the 7th day, It simply is not "obeying God" to gather together for corporate worship on that day. It is NOT commanded.

It seems you have mans tradition and some truth blended together.

The command:

"Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy." Ex 20:8-11

Keeping the Sabbath is about resting from work. God rested on the 7th day not cus He was tired, but as a pattern for us, His people to follow.

We are called to gather together:

“Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation. You shall do no work. It is a Sabbath to the Lord in all your dwelling places" Lev 23:23

That word convocation means literally large assembly.

It has nothing to do with going to a temple specifically. People use that time to study the word, and that how it was done in Jesus time. Hearing it read aloud and discussing it. Today we gather in buildings and homes to pray, study, and worship God's goodness.


And...
Yes I wear talith. Yes I observe Hanukah. (These are actual customs, not commands). Not to earn salvation. (That is an undeserved free gift.) It's to show love to My God and savior as His follower. You did it and so will I.

I am called to be set apart. So I don't mind doing something different than the mainstream. But we must try to stay true to what the scripture says and How our Father is convicting us.

 

[BlessedCreator]

God commanded it.
Jesus did it.
I follow Jesus, sooo.

*Shrugs*

Pretty clear to me. Just on here to share, not debate because ...
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of
an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days" Col2:16

Do you sacrifice animals for remission of sins or do you apply to the blood of Christ who died once for all sins?
Also Jesus kept the law because it was in effect until his death and resurrection as is proven by the God given inspired words
in Romans 6:14 and Colossians 2:16 that tell us we are no longer under the law or 10 commandments.

 

[BlessedBeyondBelief]

Do you sacrifice animals for remission of sins or do you apply to the blood of Christ who died once for all sins?
Also Jesus kept the law because it was in effect until his death and resurrection as is proven by the God given inspired words
in Romans 6:14 and Colossians 2:16 that tell us we are no longer under the law or 10 commandments.

The command for animal sacrafices can no longer be kept because the temple no longer exists.

These sacrafices were done in obidience to show repentance for sins. They did not ever take sins away.

Jesus sacrafice is the only sacraficed that has ever removed sin.

Jesus kept the law because...
"For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me" John 6:38

And the law does not go away until our world does:

For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Mat 5:18


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And when scriptures like Romans 6:14 talks about being under that law, it's speaking to the laws penalty; which is death. Eternal separation from God. But through salvation, the wages of sin, which is death (Rom 6:23) is overcome by grace.

 

[Dave M]

Hebrews 10:25
Not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.

 

[Sue D.]

Meeting together to worship -- encourage each other in God's Word. And at frequent intervals. Like once a week as much as possible.

 

[PloughBoy]

God created the 7th day a day of rest for man, He did not create it for a day of worship. NO where did God say worship on the 7th He said it is a day of rest. a rest for your animals your servants. Rest! sit down in your house with your family and rest! GOD never said go to the temple on the 7th and worship,

Most people do not know the different between the word, "rest" and the word "worship"! they are two different words.

8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

There is no better day to rest on than the 7th day of the week, because God has blessed "That Day" for rest. your body and mind and soul is so refresh on that day with a special blessing of re-newness, because he Hallowed it!

Sunday is not the 7th day of the week! you can worship and drive a hundred miles, walk 20 miles, or ride your horse 50 miles and make it back home before midnight if you like after church. on a Sunday. So no argument from me on worship on a sunday or any other day, but the 7th is a rest day from all your labors, rest your car too!

 

[Trevor]

We are told that 'on the seventh day God rested'. In Hebrews 3:11So I declare on oath in my anger, " They shall never enter my rest." It looks to me that we live in the Sabath. blessings.

 

[Brother Paul]

It seems you have mans tradition and some truth blended together.

The command:

"Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy." Ex 20:8-11

Keeping the Sabbath is about resting from work. God rested on the 7th day not cus He was tired, but as a pattern for us, His people to follow.

We are called to gather together:

“Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation. You shall do no work. It is a Sabbath to the Lord in all your dwelling places" Lev 23:23

That word convocation means literally large assembly.

It has nothing to do with going to a temple specifically. People use that time to study the word, and that how it was done in Jesus time. Hearing it read aloud and discussing it. Today we gather in buildings and homes to pray, study, and worship God's goodness.


And...
Yes I wear talith. Yes I observe Hanukah. (These are actual customs, not commands). Not to earn salvation. (That is an undeserved free gift.) It's to show love to My God and savior as His follower. You did it and so will I.

I am called to be set apart. So I don't mind doing something different than the mainstream. But we must try to stay true to what the scripture says and How our Father is convicting us.

Indeed..."in all" (plural) your (personal) "dwelling places" (Plural), i.e., where you live....

I am glad you are Messianic....and I am not saying it is wrong or incorrect to worship the Lord on the 7th day, it is good to worship Him ANY day and everyday (as is my custom...and I also rest from the world on the 7th day..

 

[Brother Paul]

Exodus 16:29 -See that the LORD hath given you the sabbath; therefore He giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.'

 

[Brother Paul]

All the people would gather together at the Tabernacle and later the Temple for the High Sabbaths (as Torah commended) whatever day pf the week they fell upon....otherwise they CONGREGATED at their or each other's homes

 

[PloughBoy]

We are told that 'on the seventh day God rested'. In Hebrews 3:11So I declare on oath in my anger, " They shall never enter my rest." It looks to me that we live in the Sabath. blessings.

I thought we where referring to the "commandment God gave to man" after He had drown the whole world. Except those on the "Ark". And the word "rest" does not mean "7", the word "sabbath" means the "7th day" and not the word "rest". And also you are saying we all live on a "Saturday" which is the "7" day of the week, and Sunday through Friday does not exist! Days 1-6. I think not, I think you might not have study or look up the word "sabbath" definition " in "ISBE" exhausted. The word means 7th day and not rest.

 

[Trevor]

I thought we where referring to the "commandment God gave to man" after He had drown the whole world. Except those on the "Ark". And the word "rest" does not mean "7", the word "sabbath" means the "7th day" and not the word "rest". And also you are saying we all live on a "Saturday" which is the "7" day of the week, and Sunday through Friday does not exist! Days 1-6. I think not, I think you might not have study or look up the word "sabbath" definition " in "ISBE" exhausted. The word means 7th day and not rest.

you've lost me Ploughboy. bless you.

 

[PloughBoy]

you've lost me Ploughboy. bless you.

ok, "the rest of God" and the "sabbath day" in the Ten commandments are two different things.

 

[rstrats]

BlessedCreator,

You have a question directed to you in post #3.

 

[Trevor]

ok, "the rest of God" and the "sabbath day" in the Ten commandments are two different things.

Hi Ploughboy, I may be wrong in this, but in my own case, I tend to see my life as lived in the sabbath. On the sabbath, we share the Word, the bread and the wine and the rest of the week we feed on the Word who is the bread of life. We are a royal priesthood who have access to the holy of holies where we commune with the Spirit of God and when he wishes we are enriched. So we are constantly at the feet of Jesus praying to be fed. Are you not constantly at the feet of the master, or just on Sundays? Many are Sunday Christians. As I say, I may well be wrong, but to me it's just semantics. bless you

 

[PloughBoy]

So you are saying, you only live on the 7th day of the week, and Monday through Friday do not exist to you?

But personally, i believe you do not understand the word "sabbath' like thousands and thousands of christians. So i will repeat this again for "edification', three times.
The word "sabbath" means "7"..............The word "sabbath" means "7"...............The word "sabbath" means "7".


The term "the Sabbath Day" means "The 7th Day" of the week. The term "The Sabbath Day" means "the 7th Day" of the week. {The Sabbath Day := The 7th day}

It does not mean a worship day, You rest on the 7th day of the week, Your horse rest on the 7th day of the week, your workers rest on the 7th day of the week. Your land rest on the 7th day of the week. you rest from all of you labors on the "Sabbath Day". It is a special day that God blessed for everything to rest on.

You can rest "M-F" but it is not like resting on the 7th day on the week, because God has Blessed that day for resting, and there no other day like it for rest!

Now it is up to the people to choose, It is a special day for you to rest on, your sleep will be sweeter, your mind will be fresher, your body will heal better, from all your labor during the week, the day has been bless by God in many ways, You rest, stay home, no cutting grass, no washing clothes, washing your car, no choir practices, boy scout outings, laboring on the Bar B QUE GRILL, No shopping at the malls, no fishing in the creek, no driving 50 miles to the lake. rest and have some ice tea, and eat some cucumbers, olives, dates, and some chocolate tomatoes, and stay away from the relatives and the world and rest, no sports TV, and golf,.........Get the picture........ rest....God has blessed it .....But you choose!

Now Sunday is the 1st day of the week, GOD did not say: Remember the 1st day of the week and keep it holy. God did not say, the 1st day of the week was a day of rest.

Rest and worship are 2 different words with 2 different meanings. Like dog means dog and cat means cat! Worship is exhausting rest is not.

Many christians do not understand the term "The Sabbath Day' because they do not realize the word "sabbath means 7" simple as "bonjour" means "hello" but the world and the "institutionalize church" has change the definition of the word Sabbath to worship. But if a person would read their bibles like a book they would see the deception. Or if some Christians would skip a meal who can afford it, Buy a set of "International Standard Bible Encyclopedias" because the internet definitions of biblical definitions has become bias in so many ways. Far many christians do not realize. "ISBE" is the standard concerning biblical words recorded in scripture.

sorry for being exhausted in the terminology. Historical words, especially biblical words has been so mutated and lost the luster or it's true meaning enough to alter the affect and thought patterns of intentions of biblical truth.

So many times i do not want to address such observations, for many of reasons, but at other times, I think it is a "unction" by the "Holy Spirit" with a sense of "Holy Fear". and don't ask me to explain that, because i can't!.