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Shepherds Scattering the Sheep

Sue J Love

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“’Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of My pasture!’ declares the Lord. Therefore thus says the Lord God of Israel concerning the shepherds who are tending My people: ‘You have scattered My flock and driven them away, and have not attended to them; behold, I am about to attend to you for the evil of your deeds,’ declares the Lord.” (Jeremiah 23:1-2 NASB1995)

Who are the shepherds today who are destroying and scattering the sheep of Christ’s pasture? They are people who call themselves pastors, reverend, elder, deacon, bishop, priest, pope, and teachers, and so on. But they aren’t just those who are in leadership positions within the gatherings of what are called, “the church.” But they can be political rulers of nations who call themselves “Christians,” who profess faith in Jesus Christ with their lips.

And how are they destroying and scattering the sheep? One way is by teaching the people lies convincingly enough to where they accept the lies as truth and they reject the truth as though it is the lie. And so they end up following after a human-created gospel which does not insist that they die with Christ to sin and that they now walk (in conduct) in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in daily practice, in the power of God.

Not only do they teach the Scriptures out of context, and distort them, and twist them in the direction of what they want them to say, but they teach false doctrines of faith, and they teach that God said what he did not say, and they teach undying devotion and support given to a physical and political and godless nation, in the name of God, and in the name of Christianity, which is opposed to what the Scriptures teach we should do.

And sadly, it appears that the majority of those who call themselves “Christians,” here in the USA, are following the lies and the liars. And so many of them are giving their devotion and veneration to godless people and to godless nations which reject the authority of Jesus Christ over their lives, and who are antichrist by their denial and rejection of Jesus Christ as the Messiah who has come, and by their unwillingness to bow the knee to God.

But they don’t scatter the sheep of God’s (Christ’s) pasture by deception only. They also do it by rejection of those who are following the truth of the gospel, who are standing on the Word of Truth, and who are rebuking the lies of Satan, and who are proclaiming the truth of the gospel of our salvation to the people, as Jesus and his New Testament apostles taught it. Many of these shepherds are being trained to get rid of people like us with “strong convictions,” and to invite us to go where we will be a “better fit.”

So, let’s get this straight. The Israel of God today is not the political and godless nation called, Israel, who by the large majority are antichrist, because they have rejected Jesus Christ as their Messiah and Lord. The Israel of God today are all who believe in Jesus Christ, whether Jew or Gentile by physical birth. Collectively we are God’s holy nation, his beloved, and the sheep of his pasture. So you are not required of God to give your allegiance and support to the antichrist nation called, “Israel.”

[Genesis 17:7-9; Genesis 18:19; John 8:18-19,38-47; Romans 2:28-29; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; Romans 9:4-8,25-28; Romans 11:1-36; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 3:16,26-29; Galatians 4:22-31; Ephesians 2:11-22; Ephesians 3:6; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-16; Hebrews 8:6-13;1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 2:22; Jude 1:5; Revelation 2:9; Revelation 3:9]

Also, you are not to give your veneration, allegiance, and support to any physical nation of people, in the sense of worship of them and their leaders with a blind trust that believes whatever lies they feed you. The USA is not “one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.” For, even though the majority religion in our nation is “Christian,” not many are literally surrendered to Christ as Lord of their lives, following him, obeying him, and dying to sin daily, by the Spirit. Many give lip service only.

And with regard to the gospel, Jesus taught that if we are going to come after him that we must deny self, die daily to sin, and follow him in obedience to his commands. For if we profess him with our lips, but sin is still what we practice, and not obedience to God, then we don’t know God, we are not in fellowship with Christ, we are not born of God, we do not have salvation from sin, and we do not have eternal life with God in heaven. So please know and believe and live the truth, for your life depends on it.

[Matt 7:13-14,21-23; Lu 9:23-26; Jn 10:27-30; Ac 26:18; Rom 2:6-8; Rom 6:1-23; Rom 8:1-14; Rom 12:1-2; 1 Co 6:9-10,19-20; 1 Co 10:1-22; 2 Co 5:10,15,21; Gal 5:16-24; Gal 6:7-8; Eph 2:8-10; Eph 4:17-32; Eph 5:3-6; Col 1:21-23; Col 3:1-17; Tit 2:11-14; Heb 3:1-19; Heb 4:1-13; Heb 10:23-31; Heb 12:1-2; 1 Pet 2:24; 1 Jn 1:5-10; 1 Jn 2:3-6,15-17; 1 Jn 3:4-10]

My Sheep

Based off John 10:1-30 NIV
An Original Work / June 24, 2012
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love


My sheep hear me. They know me.
They listen to my voice and obey.
I call them and lead them.
They know my voice, so they follow me.
They will never follow strangers.
They will run away from them.
The voice of a stranger they know not;
They do not follow him.

So, I tell you the truth that
I am the gate, so you enter in.
Whoever does enter
Will find forgiveness and will be saved.
Nonetheless whoever enters
Not by the gate; other way,
He is the thief and a robber.
Listen not, the sheep to him.

Oh, I am the Good Shepherd,
Who laid his own life down for the sheep.
I know them. They know me.
They will live with me eternally.
The thief only comes to steal and
Kill and to destroy the church.
I have come to give you life that
You may have it to the full…

They know my voice, so they follow me.


Shepherds Scattering the Sheep
An Original Work / June 25, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love
 
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