Something seems unstable or not right, I cannot put my finger on it, "If i may use those words".

[PloughBoy]

I do understand "wilderness journeys", desert journeys," "Biblical wilderness journeys", "dry places", and I am not referring to places such as "Dark night of the soul", "This is something different" maybe like a "eye of a storm". I have never encounter, in all my 40 years in Christ. It is not dreariness or cloudiness. nor fog. Let me clarify the word "journey" in context. it is a "Biblical Motif".

if you really do not understand, I am asking you at this point do not reply. For this is not a crisis, or a confusion of any sort. It is similar to "the clouds are the dust from His feet". But it is a form of "observation". Nothing more nothing less.

 

[PloughBoy]

The Day of the Lord

1Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

4But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. 6So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be awake and sober.

6“At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’

7“Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’

 

[Curtis]

But it is a form of "observation".

No one knows the exact time at which the "rapture" will come, (we can not stop it) but Paul said that that day shall NOT overtake us as a thief in the night because we are not the children of darkness, we are the children of the light and of the day. Darkness blinds the spiritual eyes, but "light' gives vision so one can see afar off.

Mar 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
Mar 13:33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

The word, "watch" means, "to observe over a period of time". Praying and watching go hand in hand as you can not pray without watching, neither can we watch without praying!

 

[Curtis]

We can not stop what God says will happen on that day, but we can from our perspective "speed" the coming of that day by watching and praying!

2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

 

[PloughBoy]

What about this, I believe that God has a set number of the Children of God He is creating and forming into the image of His Son, And when the last stone has been made. The Father will say it is done. and Jesus will step off of that Throne and receive us to Himself and we will Have the Grand supper and That Scroll that had the 7 Seals on it shall be read. and the Mystery of GOD we be Revealed. FOR GOD IS A GOD OF ORDER. would not you think. His number is set about the redeem before the foundation of the world.

 

[Curtis]

What about this, I believe that God has a set number of the Children of God He is creating and forming into the image of His Son, And when the last stone has been made. The Father will say it is done. and Jesus will step off of that Throne and receive us to Himself and we will Have the Grand supper and That Scroll that had the 7 Seals on it shall be read. and the Mystery of GOD we be Revealed. FOR GOD IS A GOD OF ORDER. would not you think. His number is set about the redeem before the foundation of the world.

The names of every person who will be saved, and are already saved have been written in "the Lambs book of life written before the foundation of the world" ( Rev 17:8) (Rev 21:27)

2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

We do NOT know who these people are, but God does! As Jesus said, "whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give it you. Jesus said, "if you ask me anything I will do it" Why ask God for anything if he knows all things beforehand? Why would I need "faith" for anything if God already knows everything before I ask him? Because his will and man's prayers are tied together which he foreknew from the beginning!

 

[PloughBoy]

The names of every person who will be saved, and are already saved have been written in "the Lambs book of life written before the foundation of the world" ( Rev 17:8) (Rev 21:27)

2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

We do NOT know who these people are, but God does! As Jesus said, "whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give it you. Jesus said, "if you ask me anything I will do it" Why ask God for anything if he knows all things beforehand? Why would I need "faith" for anything if God already knows everything before I ask him? Because his will and man's prayers are tied together which he foreknew from the beginning!

and? I believe everything that is written in the "Holy Scripture". done deal with me. what ever is written, I believe. no argument here.

 

[PloughBoy]

I will still proclaim "Something is not right". A sense of unstableness. In a uncanny way.. as if "The Thermometer of The Temperature of This world is in "censorship". And if it is! "The Boom"! Will cause men's hearts to fell. It also seems, that the "Holy Spirit" Restraints are slowly loosening.
I know many of my brother and sisters in Christ, are not familiar with the field of "Theology Proper" and the study of The Third party of "The Triune GOD". I have been noticing His work on the Earth, and have been asking "nominal Christians" and true Christians and noticing the reaction of non-Christians. What they have noticing in the world! It is strange, that nominals and non- christians have a better sense of the unstableness than true Christians! I have notice here in America, of a demeanor upon President Trump's persona of deep uncertainty in a world's view. The World is hiding something, I believe , to keep us from a great panic.

 

[twcstp111]

Hmmm...


I like this passage a lot:
“Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.”

 

[PloughBoy]

Hmmm...


I like this passage a lot:
“Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.”

Are you talking about "The Sunday Morning Stickup" the tithing lie of the "institutional church"? And how do you mean you like. In what fashion of the OT law? I am really puzzled.

 

[Trevor]

Hmmm...


I like this passage a lot:
“Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.”

It's even better when it's put to the test and found to be true twcstp. It's nothing to do with giving to the church. It's having God's blessings available for us to give as he directs. This becomes a powerful witness to the love of God. Helen and I have provide for ourselves, over the years, from street music. This is not one of the most lucrative professions, but we reasoned that ten pence in the pound leaves us with ninety and that has to be a good deal. Ten pounds out of a hundred for example, over several months amount to enough to be of help to some needy soul or maybe a donation to a food bank. The blessing that we have received have brought us immense joy. And the negative taunts pale into insignificance against such blessings.

 

[DieAmartyr]

I do understand "wilderness journeys", desert journeys," "Biblical wilderness journeys", "dry places", and I am not referring to places such as "Dark night of the soul", "This is something different" maybe like a "eye of a storm". I have never encounter, in all my 40 years in Christ. It is not dreariness or cloudiness. nor fog. Let me clarify the word "journey" in context. it is a "Biblical Motif".

if you really do not understand, I am asking you at this point do not reply. For this is not a crisis, or a confusion of any sort. It is similar to "the clouds are the dust from His feet". But it is a form of "observation". Nothing more nothing less.

From what I have gathered, Covid-19 is a tool of spiritual warfare, unlike anything seen in the spirit world for the virus works on the soul in death. Those in Christ escape it unscathed as they arrive in heaven in perfect glory since no sickness enters heaven but in hell a new chamber has been opened separating these souls from everyone else and they are experiencing a different kind of torment from just fire. From what I understand it is a highly diabolical virus and there are worse ones coming. This is just the beginning of something we have never seen before and covid -19 is mild compared to what is coming. From my understanding the only ones going to heaven are those who call upon Jesus and repent in life right before death. So they are new Christians but those who are already in Christ are being protected from the virus because they are to rise as the bride for His glory. Take this as a grain of salt because my understanding is not Biblical, I am just sharing this with you on a personal basis. If this is totally off topic disregard it altogether. I am just led the way I am led and share what I can always meaning well in the process...

 

[PloughBoy]

From what I have gathered, Covid-19 is a tool of spiritual warfare, unlike anything seen in the spirit world for the virus works on the soul in death. Those in Christ escape it unscathed as they arrive in heaven in perfect glory since no sickness enters heaven but in hell a new chamber has been opened separating these souls from everyone else and they are experiencing a different kind of torment from just fire. From what I understand it is a highly diabolical virus and there are worse ones coming. This is just the beginning of something we have never seen before and covid -19 is mild compared to what is coming. From my understanding the only ones going to heaven are those who call upon Jesus and repent in life right before death. So they are new Christians but those who are already in Christ are being protected from the virus because they are to rise as the bride for His glory. Take this as a grain of salt because my understanding is not Biblical, I am just sharing this with you on a personal basis. If this is totally off topic disregard it altogether. I am just led the way I am led and share what I can always meaning well in the process...

well said. with explanation.

 

[DieAmartyr]

well said. with explanation.

Thank you. I hope it helped.