The Law of the Spirit

[TheWordIsOne]

Greetings if I may
The difference between the law of the spirit and the law of sin and death?

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The individual sins because the law of death continues as sin becomes full-blown work to destroy the individual conscience so that in the end, the person becomes dead in trespasses and transgressions again. The law of the spirit works oppositely, for the Spirit of light casts its light over the veil of darkness of the individual, previously committed without any conscience, disobedience to the law of God.

Romans 4:14 (NKJV) For if those who are of the law are heirs, faith is made void and the promise made of no effect,

Romans 4:15 (NKJV) because the law brings about wrath; for where there is no law there is no transgression.

Paul implicitly warns about this in a latter-day Paul passage, when he says, “The law of sin dwells in my members.” He does not mean that sin lives in our physicality.

This is the Law of the mind vs. the Law of sin.

What it is. – The Law of sin and death “is a habitual tendency to sin, which works in the members before the sinner is converted and joined to have those who have a joint heir with Christ.

Because conviction is from the Holy Spirit and because it inherits us to do so, without the Holy Spirit may not be convinced of wrong action.

For the things that are hidden reveal the thoughts of the heart through his word the unfolding of your words gives light (Psalms 119:130). The entrance of words gives light; It gives us an understanding of the simple.

Romans 3:20-21 Therefore, by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets.

Therefore, no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law rather through the law we become conscious of our sin.

No Christian should not cuss. The Bible makes that unambiguously clear. Rather than being those who try to justify that even the lost world around us clearly understands how filthy and morally corrupt Christians should be people whose words are full of grace, wisdom, truth, praise, and thanksgiving.

The severity and consequences of sin, indicate that all sin is an affront to the living God.
They may not all be equal in their ramifications or offense to the Lord.

All sin is equal wrong and sinful, sin equally condemns the sinner, because even the smallest of sin is an expression of rebellion against the holiness of God.

Blasphemy, impenitence, malice, and the others being the denial of the known truth and envy of the grace of God. The scriptures distinguish Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit against the Son of Man.

And John chapter 16 verse 11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged. Jesus speaks of the holy spirit's role in convicting the world of judgment!

Romans 7:7-25 (NKJV)What shall we say then? Is the law a sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, "You shall not covet."
But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law, sin was dead.
I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death.
For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me.
Therefore, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and just and good.
Has then what been good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful.
For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.
For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. If then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good.
But now, it is no longer I who does it, but sin that dwells in me.
For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. For the good that I will do, I do not do; but the evil I will not do, that I practice.
Now if I do what I will not do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wants to do good.
For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.
But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin that is in my members.
O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?
I thank God--through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with the mind I serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.

Read Romans 7:23; Romans 7:7; Romans 3:20; Romans 4:15; Romans 8:2; Romans 5:13.
1 Corinthians 15:56; 1 Corinthians 15:57.

The Future Is One in the Spirit is in motion

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[th1bill]

Greetings if I may
The difference between the law of the spirit and the law of sin and death?

​

The individual sins because the law of death continues as sin becomes full-blown work to destroy the individual conscience so that in the end, the person becomes dead in trespasses and transgressions again. The law of the spirit works oppositely, for the Spirit of light casts its light over the veil of darkness of the individual, previously committed without any conscience, disobedience to the law of God.

Romans 4:14 (NKJV) For if those who are of the law are heirs, faith is made void and the promise made of no effect,

Romans 4:15 (NKJV) because the law brings about wrath; for where there is no law there is no transgression.

Paul implicitly warns about this in a latter-day Paul passage, when he says, “The law of sin dwells in my members.” He does not mean that sin lives in our physicality.

This is the Law of the mind vs. the Law of sin.

What it is. – The Law of sin and death “is a habitual tendency to sin, which works in the members before the sinner is converted and joined to have those who have a joint heir with Christ.

Because conviction is from the Holy Spirit and because it inherits us to do so, without the Holy Spirit may not be convinced of wrong action.

For the things that are hidden reveal the thoughts of the heart through his word the unfolding of your words gives light (Psalms 119:130). The entrance of words gives light; It gives us an understanding of the simple.

Romans 3:20-21 Therefore, by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets.

Therefore, no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law rather through the law we become conscious of our sin.

No Christian should not cuss. The Bible makes that unambiguously clear. Rather than being those who try to justify that even the lost world around us clearly understands how filthy and morally corrupt Christians should be people whose words are full of grace, wisdom, truth, praise, and thanksgiving.

The severity and consequences of sin, indicate that all sin is an affront to the living God.
They may not all be equal in their ramifications or offense to the Lord.

All sin is equal wrong and sinful, sin equally condemns the sinner, because even the smallest of sin is an expression of rebellion against the holiness of God.

Blasphemy, impenitence, malice, and the others being the denial of the known truth and envy of the grace of God. The scriptures distinguish Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit against the Son of Man.

And John chapter 16 verse 11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged. Jesus speaks of the holy spirit's role in convicting the world of judgment!

Romans 7:7-25 (NKJV)What shall we say then? Is the law a sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, "You shall not covet."
But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law, sin was dead.
I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death.
For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me.
Therefore, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and just and good.
Has then what been good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful.
For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.
For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. If then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good.
But now, it is no longer I who does it, but sin that dwells in me.
For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. For the good that I will do, I do not do; but the evil I will not do, that I practice.
Now if I do what I will not do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wants to do good.
For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.
But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin that is in my members.
O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?
I thank God--through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with the mind I serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.

Read Romans 7:23; Romans 7:7; Romans 3:20; Romans 4:15; Romans 8:2; Romans 5:13.
1 Corinthians 15:56; 1 Corinthians 15:57.

The Future Is One in the Spirit is in motion

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So, I am left asking, is there a point?

 

[TheWordIsOne]

So, I am left asking, is there a point?

the point is after a very great storm comes, Illumination

 

[th1bill]

Hmmm, learned about Dirty Bombs in the Military in '62, so you have no point and you're just trolling?

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Hmmm, learned about Dirty Bombs in the Military in '62, so you have no point and you're just trolling?

Greetings

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Yes I see, my post of course
Imagine that I am a bailiff in a courtroom, As the people enter the courtroom, the bailiff seats everyone in the proper place, the males on the right and the females on the left

As he was seated the people, the bailiff walked in front of the courtroom, there was a throne, and on the right side of the throne was a podium.

The bailiff proceeds towards the podium and positions himself in front of the audience.

He has given documents to announce the people, And to have their attention!

The document states.

The subject at hand. are those under the law, and the bailiff proceeds to read the documents.

The law of, the bailiff's purpose is to Announce! the law of the Spirit, as you see in my posts

These issues this law, are to be examined by the individual

And no I'm not trolling with you
And about The Dirty Bomb, it's something I feel with all that's happening. China CCP, POLITICS! In the future, We'll disrupt society Everything is a reminder of character

there is a mystery in each one of you or many

and never fear Smith is Here!​

 

[th1bill]

I have no problem with bypassing petty issues and communicating but to better than 90% of the people, you are not communicating but are just trolling.

 

[bowwow]

Ban me from this piece of **** forum and adminis-traitor.

 

[Rhema]

Ban me from this piece of **** forum and adminis-traitor.

Wrong side of the bed?

 

[TheWordIsOne]

I have no problem with bypassing petty issues and communicating but to better than 90% of the people, you are not communicating but are just trolling.

greeting
ask your question old man remember to be Pacific
And no again I'm not trolling with you
because this is you in Isaiah 30: 10-22
if you are saying something about the picture this is why Hebrew 5: 12 it called show and tell

milk vs meat​

 

[Rhema]

ask your question old man remember to be Pacific

Pacific? Do you mean peaceful? Or the ocean?

 

[bowwow]

Wrong side of the bed?

I'm a former minister who's lost his faith. Millions of other believers have lost their faith in the last 20 years. Christianity is in serious decline in the US and EU. This is the one that did it for me - Christianity is in the dump.

Actually you'd be correct that ALL Christians DO believe in the Doctrine of the Trinity, for the simple reason that it's clearly, and blatantly taught in the Scriptures. All people professing faith in the LORD Jesus Christ, while denying His LORDship, are deceived, and are members of non-Christian cults. To deny the Trinity and yet claim to be a Christian is like denying the Law of Moses and claiming to be an orthodox Jew. So again, no matter what they might say, no matter what they name their religious organization, they are outside the covenant; strangers to God; under His wrath and curse, and will die in their sins unless they repent (which is a gift of God, and not something a person musters up within himself) and believe upon the LORD Jesus Christ. Anyone reading the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments, and taking them as they clearly teach cannot but walk away with anything other than a Trinitarian Doctrine. Those who deny this absolutely essential Doctrine prove themselves to be unregenerate, and as the Apostle John described them, antichrist.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Pacific? Do you mean peaceful? Or the ocean?

Greetings
1 Corinthians 4:21 What do you want? Shall I come to you with a rod, or in love and a spirit of gentleness?
or do they need a pacifier?

1 Corinthians 11:30 For this reason, many are weak and sick many among you, and many are asleep

while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat

“Awake, you who sleep,
Arise from the dead,
And Christ will give you light.”
Ephesians 5:14​

 

[Rhema]

Actually you'd be correct that ALL Christians DO believe in the Doctrine of the Trinity, for the simple reason that it's clearly, and blatantly taught in the Scriptures.

Well that's news to me. I know a number of denominations and believers, for that matter, who are Modalist.

members of non-Christian cults.

Obviously we would need to discuss your definition of Christian.

Anyone reading the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments, and taking them as they clearly teach cannot but walk away with anything other than a Trinitarian Doctrine. Those who deny this absolutely essential Doctrine prove themselves to be unregenerate, and as the Apostle John described them, antichrist.

If that's what you had believed, I can see why you've lost your faith.

But this is absolutely the wrong thread to continue this conversation. Perhaps we can move to a PM ?? Given the user interface might not be the most intuitive, allow me to start a PM.

Kindly,
Rhema

 

[TheWordIsOne]

I'm a former minister who's lost his faith. Millions of other believers have lost their faith in the last 20 years. Christianity is in serious decline in the US and EU. This is the one that did it for me - Christianity is in the dump.

Actually you'd be correct that ALL Christians DO believe in the Doctrine of the Trinity, for the simple reason that it's clearly, and blatantly taught in the Scriptures. All people professing faith in the LORD Jesus Christ, while denying His LORDship, are deceived, and are members of non-Christian cults. To deny the Trinity and yet claim to be a Christian is like denying the Law of Moses and claiming to be an orthodox Jew. So again, no matter what they might say, no matter what they name their religious organization, they are outside the covenant; strangers to God; under His wrath and curse, and will die in their sins unless they repent (which is a gift of God, and not something a person musters up within himself) and believe upon the LORD Jesus Christ. Anyone reading the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments, and taking them as they clearly teach cannot but walk away with anything other than a Trinitarian Doctrine. Those who deny this absolutely essential Doctrine prove themselves to be unregenerate, and as the Apostle John described them, antichrist.

I'm sorry to hear that, you're right

the word says
For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
Anyone who has rejected Moses' law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:26-29 (NKJV)

"If there is found among you, within any of your gates which the Lord your God gives you, a man or a woman who has been wicked in the sight of the Lord your God, in transgressing His covenant, who has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, either the sun or moon or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded, and it is told you, and you hear of it, then you shall inquire diligently.
And if it is indeed true and certain that such an abomination has been committed in Israel, then you shall bring out to your gates that man or woman who has committed that wicked thing, and shall stone to death that man or woman with stones.
Whoever is deserving of death shall be put to death on the testimony of two or three witnesses; he shall not be put to death on the testimony of one witness.
The hands of the witnesses shall be the first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So you shall put away the evil from among you.
Deut 17:2-7 (NKJV)

about faith losing one faith or causing one to lose faith
Luke 17:
Hebrews 6: 4-6
1 John 2:19
Jude 1:22

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Pacific? Do you mean peaceful? Or the ocean?

they say the sea is cold, but the sea contains the hottest blood of all

This great and wide sea, In which are innumerable teeming things, Living things both small and great.
There the ships sail about; There is that Leviathan Which You have made to play there.
Psalms 104:25-26 (NKJV)
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