The Lord shall refine the Church!

[TheWordIsOne]

Chastisement & Chastening

Cleansing the Flesh from Sins​

Chastisement is a form of correction; it is an affliction of love to clean the individual from sins. Chastisement affects the person's lifestyle from sin.

To refine an individual to do good.

We read in Malachi 3:1-3 “Behold, I send My messenger, And he will prepare the way before Me. And the Lord, whom you seek, Will suddenly come to His temple, Even the Messenger of the covenant, In whom you delight. Behold, He is coming," Says the Lord of hosts. "But who can endure the day of His coming? And who can stand when He appears? He is like a refiner's fire And a launderer's soap.
He will sit as a refiner and a purifier of silver; He will purify the sons of Levi, And purge them as gold and silver, That they may offer the Lord An offering in righteousness.

Jeremiah 9:7 Therefore thus says the Lord of hosts: "Behold, I will refine them and try them; For how shall I deal with the daughter of My people?

Malachi 3:3 He will sit as a refiner and a purifier of silver; He will purify the sons of Levi, And purge them as gold and silver, That they may offer the Lord An offering in righteousness.

In words like gold or silver, the person is tried by fire to refine the individual from sins.

“Purifier”

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Zech 13:9 I will bring the one-third through the fire, Will refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them. I will say, 'This is My people'; And each one will say, 'The Lord is my God.' "

Daniel 11:35 And some of those of understanding shall fall, to refine them, purify them, and make them white, until the end; because it is still for the appointed time.

James 1:2-5 My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, knowing that testing your faith produces patience.
But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing.
If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach,

Note: Here in these verses, Christ said that in an appointed time in the individual life, He will begin to refine and purify the person through trials, and by Chastisement in the personal life, this call trial by fire. The fire is the Holy Spirit.

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We read in 1 Peter 1:7 (NLT) These trials will show your faith is genuine. It is being tested as fire tests and purifies gold—though your faith is far more precious than mere gold. So when your faith remains strong through many trials, it will bring you much praise, glory, and honor on the day Jesus Christ is revealed to the whole world.

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[Oseas]

Daniel 12

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: (because Michael stand up-1Thessalonians 4::16 combined with Matthew 24:15and 21-25, and Revelation 12:7-12))and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
12, take a look)
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake(resurrection-1 Thessalonians 4:15-16), some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half(the last week, week 70th Daniel 9:27, combined with Luke 21:24, and Revelation 11:2 and Revelation 13:5) ; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. --> Yeah, day 1335, the Ineffable, Wonderful, Indescribable, Unspeakable day, the day 1.335. Hallelujaaah!!!

13 But go thou thy way till the END be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

1Corinthians 15:24-27
24 Then the END cometh, when He shall have delivered up the kingdom to GOD, even the Father; when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For He must reign, till He hath put all enemies under His feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. (Romans 8:18-25 and combined with Philippians 3:20-21 and Luke 20:35-36)

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Matthew 25:6&10

 

[Oseas]

The whole Word of God is a PROPHECY of the Kingdom of GOD, including the book of Genesis; as you have said.
Genesis 1:26-27
27 So GOD created man in His own image, in the image of GOD created He him; male and female created He them.
28 And GOD blessed them, and GOD said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it

To fruit bear, and multiply, and to replenish th earth, GOD created the woman, by allegory the true Church of the Lord.
GOD sent JESUS and JESUS came in the fourth Day-the Greater Light- around 4000 yers after Adam-John 5:17. Around 27/30AD, i.e. in the beginning of the fifth Day, around 2000 years ago, JESUS said to the Jews: John 2:19 and 21: ->19 Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
21 But he spake of the temple of His body.
(what our Lord JESUS said and revealed, physically He would resurrect in the third day (a day of 24 hours, of course); but SPIRITUALLY, our Lord was speaking of His body the Church, it will rise up now in the 3rd Day, a Day of 1000 years, after have bear fruit, multiplied itself for 2000 years, and will replenish the earth with the resurrection of multitudes according 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17:

15 For this we say unto you by the Word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel(Michael-Daniel 12:1-3), and with the trump of GOD(REVELATION 11:15-18): and the dead in Christ shall rise first: (the resurrection of the believers in Christ JESUS)
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the cloud(the same cloud in Acts 1:9-11,take a look), to meet the Lord in the air(on high, the 3rd heaven-Micah 4:1-8 combined with 2Corinthians 12:2-4 and Luke 20:35-36, among other biblical references), and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

GOD BLESS
Isaiah 28:21 and 10:23; Romans 9:28 and 8:18-25

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[Thomas (With out a doubt)]

I clearly don't know my Bible well enough, because I don't remember ever reading in my King James Bible, that God's day is but a thousand years.

 

[Oseas]

I clearly don't know my Bible well enough, because I don't remember ever reading in my King James Bible, that God's day is but a thousand years.

GOD established the OT , the first celestial environment or first heaven that lasted around 1500 years from Moses until JESUS, right?

GOD established the NT , the second heavenly environment or second heaven(Ephesians 1:3-8), that has lasted around 2000 years as is written: Hebrews 1:1-3:

1GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2Hath in these last days(last two days of 1000 years each)spoken unto us by his Son,whom he hath appointed heir of all things,by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of His glory, and the EXPRESS IMAGE of His Person(His IMAGE is written in the Holy Scriptures), and upholding all things by the Word of His power, when He had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
Remember, JESUS said to the Jews:->John 2:19-21: 19--> Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 21 But he spake of the temple of His body. ( So, up from the grave the body of JESUS arose in the 3rd day, a day o 24 hours, of course, but spiritually the Church is the body of Christ(Colossians 1:24), and now, after two Days, two millenniums, as was prophesied by Hoseas 6:2-3, the body of Christ, the true Church of the Lord(Ephesians 1:3-8), will rise up or caught up and put down all rule and all authority and power, JESUS must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet(understand? and the last ENEMY that shall be destroyed is death, understand?, it having He put all things under His feet. 1 Corinthians 15:24-27.

The Kingdom of GOD will be established by the Power of the Word of GOD, understand? -Revelation 11:15-18. The Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing? Satan will be cast down into the bottomless pit that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years-the seventh and last millennium- should be fulfilled.Revelation 20:2-3.

2Peter 3:7-8

7 But the heavens(the heavenly environment of the OT and NT which were established by GOD here-two heavens-Ephesians 1:3-8), and the earth(the current Israel-the clay, the dry land), which are now, by the same Word are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against the Day of Judgment and perdition of ungodly men (this Day just arrived-the Lord's Day).
8 Beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one Day.

 

[Twistie]

GOD established the OT , the first celestial environment or first heaven that lasted around 1500 years from Moses until JESUS, right?

GOD established the NT , the second heavenly environment or second heaven(Ephesians 1:3-8), that has lasted around 2000 years as is written: Hebrews 1:1-3:

1GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2Hath in these last days(last two days of 1000 years each)spoken unto us by his Son,whom he hath appointed heir of all things,by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of His glory, and the EXPRESS IMAGE of His Person(His IMAGE is written in the Holy Scriptures), and upholding all things by the Word of His power, when He had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
Remember, JESUS said to the Jews:->John 2:19-21: 19--> Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 21 But he spake of the temple of His body. ( So, up from the grave the body of JESUS arose in the 3rd day, a day o 24 hours, of course, but spiritually the Church is the body of Christ(Colossians 1:24), and now, after two Days, two millenniums, as was prophesied by Hoseas 6:2-3, the body of Christ, the true Church of the Lord(Ephesians 1:3-8), will rise up or caught up and put down all rule and all authority and power, JESUS must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet(understand? and the last ENEMY that shall be destroyed is death, understand?, it having He put all things under His feet. 1 Corinthians 15:24-27.

The Kingdom of GOD will be established by the Power of the Word of GOD, understand? -Revelation 11:15-18. The Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing? Satan will be cast down into the bottomless pit that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years-the seventh and last millennium- should be fulfilled.Revelation 20:2-3.

2Peter 3:7-8

7 But the heavens(the heavenly environment of the OT and NT which were established by GOD here-two heavens-Ephesians 1:3-8), and the earth(the current Israel-the clay, the dry land), which are now, by the same Word are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against the Day of Judgment and perdition of ungodly men (this Day just arrived-the Lord's Day).
8 Beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one Day.

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him

 

[Oseas]

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him

Yes, Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ-John 1:17. This Dispensation of Grace already lasts around 2000 years. John 1:11-14: --> 11 JESUS came unto His own, and His own received Him not.
12 But as many as received Him (Jewish or Gentile), to them gave He power to become the sons of GOD, even to them that believe on His NAME:->JESUS.

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of GOD. <--(Ephesians 1:3-8, take a look)

14 And the Word was made flesh(the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing), and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of Grace and Truth.

John 7:38-39 ; JESUS said:

38 He that believeth on me, as the Scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

39 (But this spake He of the Spirit, which they that believe on Him should receive:

 

[Twistie]

Yes, Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ-John 1:17. This Dispensation of Grace already lasts around 2000 years. John 1:11-14: --> 11 JESUS came unto His own, and His own received Him not.
12 But as many as received Him (Jewish or Gentile), to them gave He power to become the sons of GOD, even to them that believe on His NAME:->JESUS.

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of GOD. <--(Ephesians 1:3-8, take a look)

14 And the Word was made flesh(the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing), and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of Grace and Truth.

John 7:38-39 ; JESUS said:

38 He that believeth on me, as the Scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

39 (But this spake He of the Spirit, which they that believe on Him should receive:

There are many tho

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

 

[Oseas]

There are many tho

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Paul apostle in his epistle to the Romans, he was talking about the idolatry and depravity of the Church of Rome which was founded by him, and later was corrupted mainly by Jewish members who attended the Church that was called by the name of Catholic Church, and later Roman Catholic Church .

The former Church of the Lord in Rome founded and developed mainly by Paul Apostle, it was/is the birthplace or cradle of Antichrist

There is very interesting revelation of the Apostle John of the primitive Church of Rome, it's by VISUAL testimony of John, as is written in 1John 2:18-21:

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that Antichrist shall come, even now are there many Antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

19 They (the Church of Rome) went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.


What we can say is that the woman, that is the Babylonian Roman Catholic Church, a Great *****, married to 266 Popes, currently Francis I is the Pope, she sits upon the scarlet colored the Man Beast of sea, the Pope, the Papacy - from the Latin expression Pater Patrum - , full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns, reason by which the Roman Ctholic Church is called Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth, which is drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of JESUS.

The Antichrist was born and rose up from the own Church, Church of Rome, see how.

The Antichrist was born and rose up from the own Church-See how

Yes, the birthplace, or the cradle of Antichrist, was the own Church, unfortunately, see how. 1 John 2:v.18-19 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that...

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[Twistie]

 

[Oseas]

Hi Twistie

Jonathan's thinking is from a human perspective, a stumblingblock-Genesis 3:1-, not from GOD's perspective. Jonathan works as a messenger of the Dragon, he stealthy tries through his preaching to deceive the true believers with his satanic interpretation of Scriptures, of the same manner in Genesis 3:1.

What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand? What does the Word of GOD say? Revelation 12:7- And Michael and his messengers fought against the Dragon; and the red Dragon fought and his messengers. Jonathan works not at the side of Michael or as a messenger of Michael, but as a messenger of the red Dragon.

Be careful, or else get ready if you do not discern you are divulging or spreading satanic interpretations of the Word of GOD, as is revealed in Genesis 3:1.

Revelation 16:13-15

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the MOUTH of that dragon, and out of the MOUTH of that Beast(Beast of sea), and out of the MOUTH of that false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of demons, working miracles, to go unto the kings of the earth, and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great Day of God Almighty.(the Lord's Day, the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium)

WARNING
15 Behold I come as a thief. ...

 

[Hekuran]

19 They (the Church of Rome) went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

This is a very, very reckless way to read scripture! You can't just shoehorn words (the Church of Rome) into scripture just because it suits you.

Other points. Paul did not found the church in Rome. He didn't go to Rome until sent there for trial at the end of his life.

And the idea that Paul was addressing the Roman Catholic church in chapter 1?? Where did that come from? I don't see any evidence for it in the text at all.

 

[Twistie]

Hi Twistie

Jonathan's thinking is from a human perspective, a stumblingblock-Genesis 3:1-, not from GOD's perspective. Jonathan works as a messenger of the Dragon, he stealthy tries through his preaching to deceive the true believers with his satanic interpretation of Scriptures, of the same manner in Genesis 3:1.

What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand? What does the Word of GOD say? Revelation 12:7- And Michael and his messengers fought against the Dragon; and the red Dragon fought and his messengers. Jonathan works not at the side of Michael or as a messenger of Michael, but as a messenger of the red Dragon.

Be careful, or else get ready if you do not discern you are divulging or spreading satanic interpretations of the Word of GOD, as is revealed in Genesis 3:1.

Revelation 16:13-15

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the MOUTH of that dragon, and out of the MOUTH of that Beast(Beast of sea), and out of the MOUTH of that false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of demons, working miracles, to go unto the kings of the earth, and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great Day of God Almighty.(the Lord's Day, the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium)

WARNING
15 Behold I come as a thief. ...

I can't see how you see what you see.. I believe it's you leaning on your own understanding.. I don't follow man like many do I don't trust man but I know when the Spirit of the Lord is in someone tho.. what u say don't make much sense in how you use the words to respond to wat this man said.. I see what this man is saying and I hear tho like many times I don't wanna hear what I am hearing.. I know this if America does not repent from the top down if America does not start to draw near to the Lord America is doomed as the World... What is going on is an horrific especially to the children..

 

[Oseas]

This is a very, very reckless way to read scripture! You can't just shoehorn words (the Church of Rome) into scripture just because it suits you.

Other points. Paul did not found the church in Rome. He didn't go to Rome until sent there for trial at the end of his life.

And the idea that Paul was addressing the Roman Catholic church in chapter 1?? Where did that come from? I don't see any evidence for it in the text at all.

Paul the Apostle had many faithful friends in Rome working with him in the evangelization of the Gentiles, mainly among them are Timothy, Tychicus, Aristarchus, and they had free access to his person, and operated as cooperators in Rome and as messengers to the communities that converted to the Christianity, many had been converted by the preachings of Paul. They believed in JESUS and grew spiritually and in numbers of converts to what we today call Christianity. And they held services in their homes, later these communities were spiritually denominated Churches under Paul's Ministry. This is how the true and primitive Church of the Lord in Rome developed spiritually, not only in Rome but in several other cities in Greece, Turkey, Syria, among others.

However, in Rome a group of dissident false believers, maianly Jewish, dominated or possessed by the spirit of the Devil, developed an apostate church somehow politically linked to the Roman Empire, and called it Catholic Church, and the Jewish members influenced the fabrication and developments of the CURSED and demonic idolatry as they always did in the Old Testament, later the name was changed to the Roman Catholic Church, and they began to persecute and murder true believers, they even killed the apostles, in the same way they killed JESUS, the Messiah, in His Ministry.

Around 65 years after His ascension, the Lord JESUS sent seven letters to the 7 churches in Asia, Revelation chapters 2 and 3, but the church in Rome was discarded by JESUS because it was totally apostatized and completely dominated by the Devil.

Governments in the world became dominated by the idolatrous and demonic church of Rome, and they became great donors of wealth to Catholicism, and helped in its growth in these two millennia of existence, and transformed the Roman Catholic Church into a gigantic and demonic religious MONSTER formed of 7 heads, 10 horns, and on the 7 heads a blasphemous NAME in the Latin language - the name - Vicarivs Filii Dei - in fact, filii of the Devil. This satanic religious MONSTER with 7 heads, after electing the next Pope, maybe, yes, maybe Paulus VII as I believe, who will be the last of the powerful legion of Popes elected and dominated by the Devil, he will sit on the THRONE of the false messiah in Jerusalem for 42 months -Revelation 13:2, and will make war on believers-Revelation 13:5-7, in the same way as the demonic Popes of the time of the Inquisition.

7 heads of the satanic religious MONSTER of Catholicism:
Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania (Australia), North America, Central America and South America. One of them will be mortally wounded-Revelation 13:3&14, I believe it is South America.

10 horns; the 10 horns represent the esoteric, kabbalistic and spiritualistic Judaism of Israel, which will soon be dominated by a false messiah-John 5:43-47 combined with Apocalypse 13:11, the MAN Beast of the earth with two horns(the two horns represent the two ancient Kingdoms of Israel), the Beast is like a lamb (a false lamb, of course, a false messiah) and speaks as a dragon. The union of the two Beasts, Beast of the sea (Gentile Beast), and the Beast of the earth- the dragon-false messiah(Jewish Beast, the clay-Isaiah 64:8-, now dry land), initially both powers will merge as if it were a single power, then the dragon's body will also have 7 heads, 10 horns, and he will add a TAIL to the body - a legion of false preachers of the Scriptures, false preachers of the Word of God-Isaiah 9:14-15 combined with Revelation 12:3-4 very TERRIBLE.

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[Oseas]

I can't see how you see what you see.. I believe it's you leaning on your own understanding.. I don't follow man like many do I don't trust man but I know when the Spirit of the Lord is in someone tho.. what u say don't make much sense in how you use the words to respond to wat this man said.. I see what this man is saying and I hear tho like many times I don't wanna hear what I am hearing.. I know this if America does not repent from the top down if America does not start to draw near to the Lord America is doomed as the World... What is going on is an horrific especially to the children..

See, what matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand? What does the Word of GOD say? 1John 4:1- Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of GOD: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Hebrews 4:12-13
12 For the Word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a DISCERNER of the THOUGHTS and intents of the heart.

13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in His sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we must render an account.

What was the biblical significance of the construction and fall of the TWO TOWERS of the World Trade Center?

First, GOD was/is in control of history, nothing random happens. The United States was the single largest economy on the planet, followed by the European Union. Humanity had just entered a new millennium, from the sixth to the seventh(check it in...

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[Hekuran]

Paul the Apostle had many faithful friends in Rome working with him in the evangelization of the Gentiles, mainly among them are Timothy, Tychicus, Aristarchus, and they had free access to his person, and operated as cooperators in Rome and as messengers to the communities that converted to the Christianity, many had been converted by the preachings of Paul. They believed in JESUS and grew spiritually and in numbers of converts to what we today call Christianity. And they held services in their homes, later these communities were spiritually denominated Churches under Paul's Ministry. This is how the true and primitive Church of the Lord in Rome developed spiritually, not only in Rome but in several other cities in Greece, Turkey, Syria, among others.

However, in Rome a group of dissident false believers, maianly Jewish, dominated or possessed by the spirit of the Devil, developed an apostate church somehow politically linked to the Roman Empire, and called it Catholic Church, and the Jewish members influenced the fabrication and developments of the CURSED and demonic idolatry as they always did in the Old Testament, later the name was changed to the Roman Catholic Church, and they began to persecute and murder true believers, they even killed the apostles, in the same way they killed JESUS, the Messiah, in His Ministry.

Around 65 years after His ascension, the Lord JESUS sent seven letters to the 7 churches in Asia, Revelation chapters 2 and 3, but the church in Rome was discarded by JESUS because it was totally apostatized and completely dominated by the Devil.

Governments in the world became dominated by the idolatrous and demonic church of Rome, and they became great donors of wealth to Catholicism, and helped in its growth in these two millennia of existence, and transformed the Roman Catholic Church into a gigantic and demonic religious MONSTER formed of 7 heads, 10 horns, and on the 7 heads a blasphemous NAME in the Latin language - the name - Vicarivs Filii Dei - in fact, filii of the Devil. This satanic religious MONSTER with 7 heads, after electing the next Pope, maybe, yes, maybe Paulus VII as I believe, who will be the last of the powerful legion of Popes elected and dominated by the Devil, he will sit on the THRONE of the false messiah in Jerusalem for 42 months -Revelation 13:2, and will make war on believers-Revelation 13:5-7, in the same way as the demonic Popes of the time of the Inquisition.

7 heads of the satanic religious MONSTER of Catholicism:
Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania (Australia), North America, Central America and South America. One of them will be mortally wounded-Revelation 13:3&14, I believe it is South America.

10 horns; the 10 horns represent the esoteric, kabbalistic and spiritualistic Judaism of Israel, which will soon be dominated by a false messiah-John 5:43-47 combined with Apocalypse 13:11, the MAN Beast of the earth with two horns(the two horns represent the two ancient Kingdoms of Israel), the Beast is like a lamb (a false lamb, of course, a false messiah) and speaks as a dragon. The union of the two Beasts, Beast of the sea (Gentile Beast), and the Beast of the earth- the dragon-false messiah(Jewish Beast, the clay-Isaiah 64:8-, now dry land), initially both powers will merge as if it were a single power, then the dragon's body will also have 7 heads, 10 horns, and he will add a TAIL to the body - a legion of false preachers of the Scriptures, false preachers of the Word of God-Isaiah 9:14-15 combined with Revelation 12:3-4 very TERRIBLE.

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There's no evidence that the first century church in Rome was apostate.

Your argument seems to rest on the idea that the church in Rome was excluded from the seven churches in the province Asia addressed in Revelation.

It seems more likely that it wasn't included on the grounds that Rome is not in Asia!

This is just a fact-free speculation run

 

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See, what matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand? What does the Word of GOD say? 1John 4:1- Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of GOD: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Hebrews 4:12-13
12 For the Word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a DISCERNER of the THOUGHTS and intents of the heart.

13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in His sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we must render an account.

What was the biblical significance of the construction and fall of the TWO TOWERS of the World Trade Center?

First, GOD was/is in control of history, nothing random happens. The United States was the single largest economy on the planet, followed by the European Union. Humanity had just entered a new millennium, from the sixth to the seventh(check it in...

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I know what the Word says I don't need a teacher lol I can read perfectly well and I can hear perfectly well that pure pride to think you need to teach a grown person what the Word saith.. that's man traditional ways tho..j s.


N ya still don't make no sense in regards to the post to me anywho..

N so you know His children don't need a man to explain what He means.. tho perhaps ya can help teach one who don't know how to read read.. if ya wanna be a teacher.. idk


All your children shall be taught by the LORD, and great shall be the peace of your children

For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it ton their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD. For xI will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”

But you must not be called 'Teacher,' because you have only one Teacher, and you are all brothers and sisters together".

"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you".

 

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There's no evidence that the first century church in Rome was apostate.

Your argument seems to rest on the idea that the church in Rome was excluded from the seven churches in the province Asia addressed in Revelation.

It seems more likely that it wasn't included on the grounds that Rome is not in Asia!

This is just a fact-free speculation run

The first filii of Devil/son of Devil, elected as Pope( later called , Vicarivs Filii Dei ) and ruler of the apostate Church of Rome, his name was Linvs, he was the ruler of the apostate Church and was elected as Pope from around 67 to 76AD.

The second filii of Devil/son of Devil, elected as Pope(later called Vicarivs Filii Dei) and ruler of the apostate Church of Rome, his name was Anacletvs, he was the ruler of the apostate Church and was elected as Pope from around 76–79 / 88–91AD. It's once erroneously split into Cletus and Anacletus.

1John 2:18+21
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists(mainly in the apostate Church of Rome, the cradle of Antichrist); whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the Truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the Truth.

Yes, the birthplace, or the cradle of Antichrist, was the own Church, unfortunately, see how.

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All your children shall be taught by the LORD, and great shall be the peace of your children

For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it ton their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD. For xI will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”

Yes, GOD revealed through the prophet Isaiah(Isaiah 10:20-23) saying that :
20 It shall come to pass in that Day(the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium), that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.
21 The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty GOD.
22 For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the CONSUMPTION decreed shall overflow with righteousness.
23 For the Lord GOD of hosts shall make a CONSUMPTION, even determined, in the midst of all the land.( of Israel in this current seventh Day)

Yes, only an only a remnant will be saved, and a consumption was decreed. Here's the remnant: Revelation 7:1-8:->
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth(Jewish people), nor on the sea(Gentile poples), nor on any tree.

2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living GOD: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth(Israel) and the sea(Gentile nations),

3 Saying, Hurt not the earth(Israel), neither the sea(Gentile nations), nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our GOD in their foreheads.

4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Of the each tribe of Israel, were sealed twelve thousand, so 12 x 12000 = 144000. These are the remant of Israel that will be saved, the others of the current population will be cast into the hell's fire, as JESUS warned: Matthew 23:31-35
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

John the Baptist, the angel of the Lord, prophesied, saying:Matthew 3:7-10:
O generation of vipers(serpents, like their father-John 8:44), who hath warned you to flee from the WRATH to come?
8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that GOD is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast INTO THE FIRE. (The prophecy of John the Baptist will LITERALLY be fulfilled from now on).

But you must not be called 'Teacher,' because you have only one Teacher, and you are all brothers and sisters together".

Yes, my Lord JESUS has said (Matthew 10:24-25) that "24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. 25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord.

"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you".

Yes, there are three that bear record (testify) in heaven(heaven?Ephesians 1:3-8), the Father(GOD the Father), the Word(the Word made flesh-JESUS), and the Holy Spirit (who is not a ghost as is written erroneously in English language, but a Person): and these three are One.

GOD BLESS

 

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Yes, there are three that bear record (testify) in heaven(heaven?Ephesians 1:3-8), the Father(GOD the Father), the Word(the Word made flesh-JESUS), and the Holy Spirit (who is not a ghost as is written erroneously in English language, but a Person): and these three are One.

GOD BLESS

Although this verse of Scripture is often used by those who believe in three persons of God, it actually refutes this view, for it says that “these three are one.” Some interpret this phrase to mean one in unity as husband and wife are one. But it should be pointed out that this view is essentially polytheistic. If the word one referred to unity instead of a numerical designation, then the Godhead could be viewed as many gods in a united council or government. If unity were meant, the verse should have read, “These three agree as one.”

It is also interesting to note that this verse does not use the word Son, but Word. If Son were the special name of a distinct person in the Godhead, and if this verse were trying to teach distinct persons, why did it use Word instead of Son? Son does not refer primarily to deity, but Word does. The Word is not a distinct person from the Father any more than a man and his word are distinct persons. Rather, the Word is the thought, plan, or mind of God and also the expression of God.

There is practically unanimous agreement among Bible scholars that 1 John 5:7 is really not part of the Bible at all! All major translations since the King James Version have omitted it, including the Revised Standard Version, The Amplified Bible, and the New International Version. So does the generally accepted Greek text (Nestle’s text). The NIV renders I John 5:7-8 as, “For there are three that testify: the Spirit, the water and the blood; and these three are in agreement.”

The KJV included verse 7 only because the 1522 edition of the Greek text compiled by Erasmus included it. Originally Erasmus had excluded this passage from his editions of 1516 and 1519 because it was not in any of 5,000 Greek manuscripts but only in late manuscripts of the Vulgate—the Latin version then used by the Roman Catholic Church. When the Catholic church put pressure on Erasmus to include this verse, he promised to do so if they could find even one Greek manuscript that had it. They finally produced one, so Erasmus reluctantly added the verse in, even though the manuscript so produced dated from 1520. (See Norman Geisler and William Nix, A General Introduction to the Bible, Chicago: Moody Press, 1968, 370.) From this evidence, it seems plausible that some overzealous copyist saw “there are three that testify” and decided to insert a little teaching of his own. Certainly, the passage in question is completely unrelated to the rest of John’s discussion here and interrupts the flow of his logical argument.

Although all the evidence indicates this passage was not originally a part of I John, God had His hand of protection and preservation on His Word. Despite the efforts of humans, God did not allow the passage to contradict His Word. Whether a person believes that I John 5:7 was originally part of the Bible or that it was a later interpolation, it does not teach three persons of God but rather reaffirms the Bible’s teaching of one indivisible God with various manifestations.