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The scholar Paul Salus has offered a book Psalm 83 / Isaiah 17 / Jeremiah 49: 34-39 share your thoughts?

hopefulson

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It would seem to me that this provides a conclusive statement that we are in the last days. The fact that this prophetic Psalm along with Isaiah 17 not only gives perfectly descriptive details of what are current events but goes so far as to describe the very thoughts and plots of Israel's adversaries as though the Psalmist is sitting on the conference table at a meeting of the Arab League writing down every word they say. We should keep in mind that this was written 3000 years ago. The Psalmist is a contemporary of David who never lost a battle. These scriptures describe events that are swirling around us this very minute growing in crescendo towards a climax containing the use of nuclear weapons. ( Isaiah 17) The destruction of Damascus never to be inhabited ever again and that in a single day at the hands of the children of Israel. To quote ( this the the lot of those who spoil us, and the fate of those who plunder us). Jeremiah 49 Elam ( Southern Iran ) will face a disaster so pronounced that there will not be a nation upon the earth that will not receive a refugee from the nation of Iran. What do you consider here? I would love to know what you think.
 
Hello @hopefulson,

Thank you for your OP. I am not acquainted with the work of Paul Salus: but in my daily reading I have been directed to the O.T. prophets, and Zechariah in particular during the last week or so. Like yourself, I am noticing very clear comparisons with what is happening in the middle east today.

* Psalm 83, Isaiah 17 and Jeremiah 49:34-39:-

* Psalm 83 is a psalm of Asaph, and the Lord has drawn me to his psalms recently too, and caused me to consider who he was, and what he did, the events taking place in the sphere of his earthly existence, and the part he played in them. Praise God!

Psa 83:1 A Song or Psalm of Asaph. Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.
Psa 83:2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
Psa 83:3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
Psa 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
Psa 83:5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
Psa 83:6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
Psa 83:7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
Psa 83:8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.
Psa 83:9 Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison:
Psa 83:10 Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth.
Psa 83:11 Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna:
Psa 83:12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.
Psa 83:13 O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind.
Psa 83:14 As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire;
Psa 83:15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.
Psa 83:16 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD.
Psa 83:17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish:
Psa 83:18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

I will let His word speak.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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* Psalm 83, Isaiah 17 and Jeremiah 49:34-39:-

(Isa 17:1) The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.
(Isa 17:2) The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid.
(Isa 17:3) The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria:
they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the LORD of hosts.​
(Isa 17:4) And in that day it shall come to pass, that the glory of Jacob shall be made thin, and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean.
(Isa 17:5) And it shall be as when the harvestman gathereth the corn, and reapeth the ears with his arm;
and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the valley of Rephaim.​
(Isa 17:6) Yet gleaning grapes shall be left in it, as the shaking of an olive tree, two or three berries in the top of the uppermost bough,
four or five in the outmost fruitful branches thereof, saith the LORD God of Israel.​
(Isa 17:7) At that day shall a man look to his Maker, and his eyes shall have respect to the Holy One of Israel.
(Isa 17:8) And he shall not look to the altars, the work of his hands, neither shall respect that which his fingers have made,
either the groves, or the images.​
(Isa 17:9) In that day shall his strong cities be as a forsaken bough, and an uppermost branch, which they left because of the children of Israel:
and there shall be desolation.​
(Isa 17:10) Because thou hast forgotten the God of thy salvation, and hast not been mindful of the rock of thy strength,
therefore shalt thou plant pleasant plants, and shalt set it with strange slips:​
(Isa 17:11) In the day shalt thou make thy plant to grow, and in the morning shalt thou make thy seed to flourish:
but the harvest shall be a heap in the day of grief and of desperate sorrow.​
(Isa 17:12) Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas;
and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!​
(Isa 17:13) The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off,
and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.​
(Isa 17:14) And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not.
This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.'​

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(Jer 49:34) The word of the LORD that came to Jeremiah the prophet against Elam in the beginning of the reign of Zedekiah king of Judah, saying,
(Jer 49:35) Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will break the bow of Elam, the chief of their might.
(Jer 49:36) And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds;
and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come.​
(Jer 49:37) For I will cause Elam to be dismayed before their enemies, and before them that seek their life:
and I will bring evil upon them, even my fierce anger, saith the LORD; and I will send the sword after them, till I have consumed them:​
(Jer 49:38) And I will set my throne in Elam, and will destroy from thence the king and the princes, saith the LORD.
(Jer 49:39) But it shall come to pass in the latter days, that I will bring again the captivity of Elam, saith the LORD.

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Thank you, @hopefulson,

In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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It would seem to me that this provides a conclusive statement that we are in the last days. The fact that this prophetic Psalm along with Isaiah 17 not only gives perfectly descriptive details of what are current events but goes so far as to describe the very thoughts and plots of Israel's adversaries as though the Psalmist is sitting on the conference table at a meeting of the Arab League writing down every word they say. We should keep in mind that this was written 3000 years ago. The Psalmist is a contemporary of David who never lost a battle. These scriptures describe events that are swirling around us this very minute growing in crescendo towards a climax containing the use of nuclear weapons. ( Isaiah 17) The destruction of Damascus never to be inhabited ever again and that in a single day at the hands of the children of Israel. To quote ( this the the lot of those who spoil us, and the fate of those who plunder us). Jeremiah 49 Elam ( Southern Iran ) will face a disaster so pronounced that there will not be a nation upon the earth that will not receive a refugee from the nation of Iran. What do you consider here? I would love to know what you think.
Hello @hopefulson,

I cannot respond as you would wish at the moment, for my mind has not taken in all that is contained in these portions of Scripture, or indeed, all that is being impressed on me through my own reading of Scripture, but I am certainly watching, and praising God that His will, will be done, to the glory of His Name. These Scriptures show us a little of the cause and effect that these events will have.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
I believe we need to pay a close attention to the current goings on in the Middle East. Not only will escalation be felt over the whole earth in various ways but it will be a time of examination and study. After all has transpired an examination line by line in The Word closely studying what The Lord has said concerning what will happen with comparison after all that has actually occurred. It this way we will allow God His sovereign authority to write history before it happens.
 
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