''The Shack''

[laterunner]

Uninterested.

Inspired.

Just a novel.

Anti-Christ.

 

[Coconut]

I have the right to remain silent...but not the sense ...


It seems whether or not you uphold the Word of God does`nt hold as much weight with many, going by the debates I`ve seen....as whether or not you thought "The Shack"...was a good book. ahahahaha

I loved The Shack...as a matter of fact so much so I`m going to read it again....maybe the second read will open my eyes to the error of my theological ways :wink:

 

[jiggyfly]

While I have not read the book completely (just excerpts taken from it). I am in favor of anything that encourages people to experience God's unfathomable grace.

I will also state that in my opinion when one is not able to paraphrase the gospel and scripture meaning in their own words but rather have to just quote it using the words of someone else it idicates the lack or void of a real experience.

While I may not agree with all of the sybolism used in "The Shack", I say hats off to the author for communicating his experience of God's love and grace in his own words.

I really don't believe the author intended "The Shack" to be a theological work and so it is unfair to critque it as one.


Hats off to you too Coconut your posts have always been a blessing because I know they come from your heart's experiences with Father.

 

[Coconut]

Saying hats off to me in the public arena, could cause you to lose your hat and your head....but thank you

I really don't believe the author intended "The Shack" to be a theological work and so it is unfair to critique it as one.

Nuff said!

 

[laterunner]

Any one know of any such controversy over the Pilgrims Progress????

 

[farmkid]

I really liked how the Trinity was portrayed. I like to be open to different idea's and seeing how other people put something in writing that can me think more about my salvation.

 

[sunshine2]

I feel that anytime God the Father, the Holy Spirit and or Jesus Christ are portrayed any different than what God's Holy word says, it's close to blasphemy. the Trinity shouldn't be subject to fictionalization of any kind.

 

[shipwrecksoul]

I personally do not know what the writers intention was when he wrote "The Shack", Maybe countless millions will fall on their knees to this new and inspiring book that seems to indicate real Christianity is dead and that you need to improve on how to view God apart from scripture? You know replacing masculine with feminine qualities interactions and all? I am not even going to talk about the trinity part.
Maybe we need to translate for God his words and meanings and Spirit another way? If this is what the focus of this thread question?

But I do remember somewhere a voice asking an authority "All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me." I dont know if anyone remembers but the reply was It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Can anybody guess who said the reply? Heh Heh.

So I think its just a novel that you may read, I voted negative, and I hope if this book gets people to focus on the Real Jesus of the bible who died for you and who died for me and not a made up Jesus that is worth nothing for salvation then fantastic and amen and praise God.

I really like all the responses here on this thread about "The Shack" amazing and a blessing to me, Thank you all for sharing whats in your heart thank you.

I only read excerpts by the way. And My comment was in no way meant to be judgmental of it, the book "The Shack".

 

[jiggyfly]

I feel that anytime God the Father, the Holy Spirit and or Jesus Christ are portrayed any different than what God's Holy word says, it's close to blasphemy. the Trinity shouldn't be subject to fictionalization of any kind.

The scriptures portray Father, Son and HolySpirit in many different ways so I don't see anything wrong with doing the same as long as it is not contrary to their character.

 

[RJ]

The Bible Is Number One

It was a great read but I will stick with the Bible for my source of inspiration!

 

[sunshine2]

The scriptures portray Father, Son and HolySpirit in many different ways so I don't see anything wrong with doing the same as long as it is not contrary to their character.

Could you clarify that with scripture, please? i don't recall ever reading them portrayed in many different ways. but if you can show it to me in God's Holy word, i will rethink my stance. And i know my bible well enough to guarantee you neither of the 3 have ever been portrayed as a feminine character.

 

[shipwrecksoul]

The Shack Again

I must further point out on the book "The Shack" every person I met in my area on what their view was on it as well.
It seems when they shared the story with me on what they read that they used it as justification on what was wrong in the church and used it as a crutch not to get right with God. They used this book as their guideline to expose any hurt or flaw or hypocrisy they saw in the church either from pastors or believers. Its like this book "The Shack" was all encompassing able to make the church of I do not know who, from their perspective, good.
This was not my view I am only taking the time to share what other peoples views were in my area. I listed my view in the above post.

The people were a secular Christian psychologist.
An unsaved woman.
An unsaved woman.
An unsaved man.
There were about four or five others.

It seemed to me these people wanted Gods acceptance without acknowledging their offense, the goodness of good without the cross of Christ and the change he can bring through repentance towards God finding mercy then grace through him.
Conclusion:
With all of this comment I wrote I can only derive that the message towards the people mentioned above that this book brings is that God is inclusive and not exclusive about mans condition and the need to realize ones offense and get right before Holy God through his Son the Lord Jesus Christ. I must further point out that some are, were, pressured to say they have to drop their theological stance to be opened to God to read this book not realizing the book "The Shack" is talking about theological stance from the writers point of view, what God is he talking about? Is he the God of the heavens who saved you named Jesus? I am amazed to Why we have to drop our theological stance on what God has shown us to be true? Who said so? Did God? Maybe someone can enlighten me?

PS: I was not raised in Sunday school nor do I have a theological degree in this that or other things. I stress in all my posts here, at TalksJesus and at my homepage blog, a relationship with God through the Lord Jesus Christ who died for you and who died for me.

 

[jiggyfly]

Could you clarify that with scripture, please? i don't recall ever reading them portrayed in many different ways. but if you can show it to me in God's Holy word, i will rethink my stance. And i know my bible well enough to guarantee you neither of the 3 have ever been portrayed as a feminine character.

Isa 66:12&13 For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon [her] sides, and be dandled upon [her] knees. As one whom his mother comforteth, so will I comfort you; and ye shall be comforted in Jerusalem.

Mat 23:37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones God's messengers! How often I have wanted to gather your children together as a hen protects her chicks beneath her wings, but you wouldn't let me.


I am not trying to insinuate that God is female but I don't think that the author of "The Shack" was either. But to say that the scriptures do not employ symbolism in describing Deity simply ludicrous.

God is described as a shield, a rock, a consuming fire, a fortress, a sword, a refiner, a vine dresser, and a potter. Jesus is described as the sun, light, a lamb, a shepherd, high priest, a lion, the word of God, and morning star. HolySpirit is described as fire, oil, water and wind.

I can list the scriptures just let me know if you need them.:wink:

 

[shipwrecksoul]

Isa 66:12 For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dandled upon her knees.
Isa 66:13 As one whom his mother comforteth, so will I comfort you; and ye shall be comforted in Jerusalem.
Mat 23:37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones God's messengers! How often I have wanted to gather your children together as a hen protects her chicks beneath her wings, but you wouldn't let me.

I'm confused. Are you trying to leverage a point that this shows God in a feminine authority light like the book "The Shack" or are you sharing that the word of God is showing his love expressed by examples by the spirit that man knows about to portray a meaning?

I would think the standard would be Gods word
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

 

[sunshine2]

Isa 66:12 For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dandled upon her knees.
Isa 66:13 As one whom his mother comforteth, so will I comfort you; and ye shall be comforted in Jerusalem.
Mat 23:37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones God's messengers! How often I have wanted to gather your children together as a hen protects her chicks beneath her wings, but you wouldn't let me.

I'm confused. Are you trying to leverage a point that this shows God in a feminine authority light like the book "The Shack" or are you sharing that the word of God is showing his love expressed by examples by the spirit that man knows about to portray a meaning?

I would think the standard would be Gods word
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Very well put, shipwreckedsoul, this is exactly what i was trying to say. God is refered to in the bible as He, always.

 

[sunshine2]

Isa 66:12&13 For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon [her] sides, and be dandled upon [her] knees. As one whom his mother comforteth, so will I comfort you; and ye shall be comforted in Jerusalem.

Mat 23:37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones God's messengers! How often I have wanted to gather your children together as a hen protects her chicks beneath her wings, but you wouldn't let me.


I am not trying to insinuate that God is female but I don't think that the author of "The Shack" was either. But to say that the scriptures do not employ symbolism in describing Deity simply ludicrous.

God is described as a shield, a rock, a consuming fire, a fortress, a sword, a refiner, a vine dresser, and a potter. Jesus is described as the sun, light, a lamb, a shepherd, high priest, a lion, the word of God, and morning star. HolySpirit is described as fire, oil, water and wind.

I can list the scriptures just let me know if you need them.:wink:

Thank you, jiggyfly, for the scripture verses, what i was refering to was the femine aspect. the bible is certainly filled with symbolism, but it never portrays God as a woman, as in the movie. Yes, God came down to earth and lived here once in his son Jesus Christ, not as a woman spending time with someone in a shack. nothing personal, it is just my opinion that God should never be fictionalized in anyway.