Then He commanded them that they should tell no one. Is that something for the faith healer?

[Andyindauk]

Again, departing from the region of Tyre and Sidon, He came through the midst of the region of Decapolis to the Sea of Galilee. Then they brought to Him one who was deaf and had an impediment in his speech, and they begged Him to put His hand on him. And He took him aside from the multitude, and put His fingers in his ears, and He spat and touched his tongue. Then, looking up to heaven, He sighed, and said to him, “Ephphatha,” that is, “Be opened.” Immediately his ears were opened, and the impediment of his tongue was loosed, and he spoke plainly. Then He commanded them that they should tell no one; but the more He commanded them, the more widely they proclaimed it. And they were astonished beyond measure, saying, “He has done all things well. He makes both the deaf to hear and the mute to speak.” Mark 7:31-37


Jesus is presented with a deaf man with a speech impediment and a request to heal him. Now this guy is somehow treated differently from most other healings. Hitherto healing was instant but on this occasion Jesus makes a bit of a meal of it; it's like He performs a minor operation on the man so instead of Jesus just saying, be healed, He puts a finger in the patient's ears and spits and uses His spittle by touching the guy's tongue with it and says 'Ephaphatha' which translates, be open. Then immediately the man can hear fine and he talks normally. This is similar to John 9:1-7. So why is it that this man's condition seemed a bit harder for Jesus to heal than say the Centurion's servant who was close to death but was healed at a distance Luke 7:1-10? When I'm lifting weights at the gym, they tell me not to jerk the weights but lift them slowly to get maximum benefit. In the same way, Jesus is showing total control over illness, He can heal instantly or slowly. He doesn't need a sledge hammer to crack a nut!

But why does Jesus time and again, instruct the recipients of miracles to stay quiet? Wouldn't it make more sense if miracles were broadcast far and wide to the glory of God?

Jesus was never a good showman. Notice, right at the beginning, Jesus took the man aside from the multitude. Why? Miracles were performed more out of love for the patient than as a publicity stunt. There were exceptions, John 9:1-7. There are similarities between these two miracles; neither were instant results. In the John 9 miracle, Jesus makes a clay from His spittle. It's likely that He did that to wind up the Pharisees, knowing that they'd view this making clay on the Sabbath would bring condemnation from the Pharisees for breaking their mad regulations, which clearly had no scriptural authority. That was a fringe benefit, the real reason he healed this man was out of love for the man.

Questions from this miracle-

Is there a place today for high publicity healing services?
Was there ever an instance of the sufferer falling over in the Spirit?
Was there ever recorded offertory bags being passed around after the miracle?
What's the difference between Acts 3:6-16 and Matthew 7:22?

 

[Br. Bear]

and don't forget the music



Bless you ....><>

 

[PloughBoy]

Jesus do no

Again, departing from the region of Tyre and Sidon, He came through the midst of the region of Decapolis to the Sea of Galilee. Then they brought to Him one who was deaf and had an impediment in his speech, and they begged Him to put His hand on him. And He took him aside from the multitude, and put His fingers in his ears, and He spat and touched his tongue. Then, looking up to heaven, He sighed, and said to him, “Ephphatha,” that is, “Be opened.” Immediately his ears were opened, and the impediment of his tongue was loosed, and he spoke plainly. Then He commanded them that they should tell no one; but the more He commanded them, the more widely they proclaimed it. And they were astonished beyond measure, saying, “He has done all things well. He makes both the deaf to hear and the mute to speak.” Mark 7:31-37


Jesus is presented with a deaf man with a speech impediment and a request to heal him. Now this guy is somehow treated differently from most other healings. Hitherto healing was instant but on this occasion Jesus makes a bit of a meal of it; it's like He performs a minor operation on the man so instead of Jesus just saying, be healed, He puts a finger in the patient's ears and spits and uses His spittle by touching the guy's tongue with it and says 'Ephaphatha' which translates, be open. Then immediately the man can hear fine and he talks normally. This is similar to John 9:1-7. So why is it that this man's condition seemed a bit harder for Jesus to heal than say the Centurion's servant who was close to death but was healed at a distance Luke 7:1-10? When I'm lifting weights at the gym, they tell me not to jerk the weights but lift them slowly to get maximum benefit. In the same way, Jesus is showing total control over illness, He can heal instantly or slowly. He doesn't need a sledge hammer to crack a nut!

But why does Jesus time and again, instruct the recipients of miracles to stay quiet? Wouldn't it make more sense if miracles were broadcast far and wide to the glory of God?

Jesus was never a good showman. Notice, right at the beginning, Jesus took the man aside from the multitude. Why? Miracles were performed more out of love for the patient than as a publicity stunt. There were exceptions, John 9:1-7. There are similarities between these two miracles; neither were instant results. In the John 9 miracle, Jesus makes a clay from His spittle. It's likely that He did that to wind up the Pharisees, knowing that they'd view this making clay on the Sabbath would bring condemnation from the Pharisees for breaking their mad regulations, which clearly had no scriptural authority. That was a fringe benefit, the real reason he healed this man was out of love for the man.

Questions from this miracle-

Is there a place today for high publicity healing services?
Was there ever an instance of the sufferer falling over in the Spirit?
Was there ever recorded offertory bags being passed around after the miracle?
What's the difference between Acts 3:6-16 and Matthew 7:22?

to commit a miracle we as a people labels it as a miracle the Original Copied Manscripts makes it plain and “Simple” he came doing “Signs And Wonders” and it is a meaning why it is proclaimed that way.

Next he gave them a command and the People who he Healed Dis Obeyed “GOD” without giving it A Thought, “Total Disobeience” defying Their “Creator” there is message in all the New Testament Gospels which is a history of The events of Jesus “Emmanuel” and how the whole world rejected him and no one believe That Jesus The Anointed of GOD the Father was The Creator of All Creation. no one believe him only thing they wanted was a king to feed and clothe and give them a place to stay and not cheat them. They did not want A God they wanted a King to Support them.

They thought Jesus was just a “Linatic” prophet that God bless him with the power to create miracles and lead to have a better life on Earth.

Just because God heals you do not mean you are saved from damnation.

I did not learn this through a Class in Bible College over 40 years ago, entitled “The Life of Christ” which I study only for about Half a year.

Simple way for all, Read the Synoptics and John right behind one another until you know them by heart and feel the character of The Men who told the Story by there own prospective. Just by reading it you know which writer is speaking and why he wrote it in such a way.
Mathew the Tax Collector

Luke the Physician
Mark ?
John who was the young who Jesus spoke to a lot, alone and who took care of Jesus mother after Jesus died and she lived with John and not one of her 3 daughters or 3 Sons who were Jesus siblings.

So like the Book and Jesus proclaim they will see read but they will think they understand plainly but they will not. speaking about people think they believe and think they are following me. But they do not understand, The Father is Deceiving Them so they cannot see.

For it is not given to them too see.

The devil deceived the whole World and some are Deceived by GOD The FATHER .
In other words we all are deceived one way or another.

 

[ALADEFA ADEWALE]

God bless this writer and i pray the spirit of the Lord will not depart from you. This message here is for every believer in Christ to digest.
This message is the heart of the Father for every child of God. Simplicity in Christ.
Christ was accessible, compassionate, not a showman, humble, and faithful.

The Life of Christ is what we should study carefully and emulate. Mathew 11vs 29 KJV "Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me, for i am meek and lowly in heart; and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

 

[Garee]

Again, departing from the region of Tyre and Sidon, He came through the midst of the region of Decapolis to the Sea of Galilee. Then they brought to Him one who was deaf and had an impediment in his speech, and they begged Him to put His hand on him. And He took him aside from the multitude, and put His fingers in his ears, and He spat and touched his tongue. Then, looking up to heaven, He sighed, and said to him, “Ephphatha,” that is, “Be opened.” Immediately his ears were opened, and the impediment of his tongue was loosed, and he spoke plainly. Then He commanded them that they should tell no one; but the more He commanded them, the more widely they proclaimed it. And they were astonished beyond measure, saying, “He has done all things well. He makes both the deaf to hear and the mute to speak.” Mark 7:31-37

I would offer the parable of hearing the understanding of God not seen represents the power of the gospel needed to preach it . .A picture of Jerimiah in the opening of that chapter called a Book by some


Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

Jerimiah 1:5 -12 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Then said I, Ah, Lord God! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child. But the Lord said unto me, Say not, I am a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak.
Be not afraid of their faces: for I am with thee to deliver thee, saith the Lord. Then the Lord put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the Lord said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.
See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant. Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Jeremiah, what seest thou? And I said, I see a rod of an almond tree. Then said the Lord unto me, Thou hast well seen: for I will hasten my word to perform it.


Using spit in the parable or even sweat a metaphor used in another parable to describe the work of the unseen Holy Spirit .

Spit is used like rain or dew to represent the doctrines of God .The water of the word The baptism of the Holy Spirit

Deuteronomy 32:1-2King James Version Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth. My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:

In the new testament it is called the new tongue ( Gospel) it follows that in which a person first believes .

new tongue is prophecy

Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Signs do not lead . they show power was given .

 

[Brother Paul]

God bless this writer and i pray the spirit of the Lord will not depart from you. This message here is for every believer in Christ to digest.
This message is the heart of the Father for every child of God. Simplicity in Christ.
Christ was accessible, compassionate, not a showman, humble, and faithful.

The Life of Christ is what we should study carefully and emulate. Mathew 11vs 29 KJV "Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me, for i am meek and lowly in heart; and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Amen and amen!

 

[watertolive]

Tell no man...

Jesus wasn't flashy, quite the opposite.
He told them tell no one because those healings drew the attention of everyone who heard it. And they came from everywhere.

Jesus was trying to prolong his days on earth, so he would tell them to not tell but they would broadcast the news. So crowds grew. At one meeting virtue went out from him and they were all healed.

Imagine the people (a neighbor) asking questions...
You couldn't walk and now you are walking. What has happened?
You were blind yesterday and today you can see. What has happened to you?
Plus those that saw him do healing; what more did they broadcast?

Jesus knew his mission and what the end would be.

All praise glory and honor be unto God.

 

[Waggles]

Mark 16:15 And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.
16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues;
18 they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

John 14:12 “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father.
13 Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

 

[Waggles]

Mark 5:18 As [Jesus] was getting into the boat, the man who had been possessed with demons begged him that he might be with him.
19 And he did not permit him but said to him, “Go home to your friends and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and how he has had mercy on you.”
20 And he went away and began to proclaim in the Decapolis how much Jesus had done for him, and everyone marvelled.

 

[Waggles]

Acts 3:16 And his name—by faith in his name—has made this man strong whom you see and know, and the faith that is through Jesus has given the man this perfect health in the presence of you all.
The manifestation of the power and truth of the Holy Spirit in the Pentecostal church - still happening today

James 5:14 Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord.
15 And the prayer of faith will save the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.

 

[Waggles]

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’
23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

These verses blow OSAS out of the water.
Here we have direct teaching from Jesus that Spirit-filled saints (Pentecostal Christians) who enjoy the signs following listed in Mark 16 can fall away, and can quench the Spirit and revert to walking in the flesh -
practising lawlessness - G458 ἀνομία anomia > the condition of without law - not having the Law of God in our heart > selfwill > reverting to sin and worldliness

Paul writes to Spirit-filled Christians of the NT and WARNS them of the dangers following -
Galatians 5:16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.
17 For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do.
18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,
20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,
21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[Garee]

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’
23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

These verses blow OSAS out of the water.
Here we have direct teaching from Jesus that Spirit-filled saints (Pentecostal Christians) who enjoy the signs following listed in Mark 16 can fall away, and can quench the Spirit and revert to walking in the flesh -
practising lawlessness - G458 ἀνομία anomia > the condition of without law - not having the Law of God in our heart > selfwill > reverting to sin and worldliness

Paul writes to Spirit-filled Christians of the NT and WARNS them of the dangers following -
Galatians 5:16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.
17 For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do.
18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,
20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,
21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Yes believers sent by God as apostles yoked with Christ can prophecy .The man in Matthew 7 who was not called to prophecy . Christ said I ever knew you, or I did not move you. You were moved by your own will

Dismissing the idea of self-veneration (sign gift). “I did it. . . proves it” rather than walking by faith after the unseen spiritual things of God

Signs do not follow they as metaphors lead.

Those bitten or affected by false prophecy the poison of serpents no harm will come. With their new tongue (prophecy) they will preach and the Holy Spirit can cast out .The gospel raises those dead in the sins from death to eternal life

All Christians are spirit clothed. And therfore not according to the flesh the temporal things seen. For the desires of the flesh to self-edify (I did it, it proves it) are against the Spirit.

Those who do look to the temporal things seen before they will commit faith made Jesus into a circus seal .

John 4:48Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

John 6:30They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

 

[th1bill]

Again, departing from the region of Tyre and Sidon, He came through the midst of the region of Decapolis to the Sea of Galilee. Then they brought to Him one who was deaf and had an impediment in his speech, and they begged Him to put His hand on him. And He took him aside from the multitude, and put His fingers in his ears, and He spat and touched his tongue. Then, looking up to heaven, He sighed, and said to him, “Ephphatha,” that is, “Be opened.” Immediately his ears were opened, and the impediment of his tongue was loosed, and he spoke plainly. Then He commanded them that they should tell no one; but the more He commanded them, the more widely they proclaimed it. And they were astonished beyond measure, saying, “He has done all things well. He makes both the deaf to hear and the mute to speak.” Mark 7:31-37


Jesus is presented with a deaf man with a speech impediment and a request to heal him. Now this guy is somehow treated differently from most other healings. Hitherto healing was instant but on this occasion Jesus makes a bit of a meal of it; it's like He performs a minor operation on the man so instead of Jesus just saying, be healed, He puts a finger in the patient's ears and spits and uses His spittle by touching the guy's tongue with it and says 'Ephaphatha' which translates, be open. Then immediately the man can hear fine and he talks normally. This is similar to John 9:1-7. So why is it that this man's condition seemed a bit harder for Jesus to heal than say the Centurion's servant who was close to death but was healed at a distance Luke 7:1-10? When I'm lifting weights at the gym, they tell me not to jerk the weights but lift them slowly to get maximum benefit. In the same way, Jesus is showing total control over illness, He can heal instantly or slowly. He doesn't need a sledge hammer to crack a nut!

But why does Jesus time and again, instruct the recipients of miracles to stay quiet? Wouldn't it make more sense if miracles were broadcast far and wide to the glory of God?

Jesus was never a good showman. Notice, right at the beginning, Jesus took the man aside from the multitude. Why? Miracles were performed more out of love for the patient than as a publicity stunt. There were exceptions, John 9:1-7. There are similarities between these two miracles; neither were instant results. In the John 9 miracle, Jesus makes a clay from His spittle. It's likely that He did that to wind up the Pharisees, knowing that they'd view this making clay on the Sabbath would bring condemnation from the Pharisees for breaking their mad regulations, which clearly had no scriptural authority. That was a fringe benefit, the real reason he healed this man was out of love for the man.

Questions from this miracle-

Is there a place today for high publicity healing services?
Was there ever an instance of the sufferer falling over in the Spirit?
Was there ever recorded offertory bags being passed around after the miracle?
What's the difference between Acts 3:6-16 and Matthew 7:22?

Andy, the answer is simple and therefore has the, exact, same issue as the Gospel brought to us by Yashua ha'Mashiah, a.k.a. Jesus, the Christ. Yashua, unlike, any other person, born of a woman, was fully YHWH in the flesh of a Human. That being the case, He did His work as He chose.

 

[Br. Bear]

But why does Jesus time and again, instruct the recipients of miracles to stay quiet? Wouldn't it make more sense if miracles were broadcast far and wide to the glory of God?

Behold, My servant shall deal prudently, He shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high.

As many were astonied at Thee; His visage was so marred more than any man, and His form more than the sons of men:

So shall He sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at Him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.
Isaiah 52:13-15


Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: but made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: and being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Wherefore God also hath highly exalted Him, and given Him a name which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Philippians 2:5-11

 

[Br. Bear]

Is there a place today for high publicity healing services?

Was there ever an instance of the sufferer falling over in the Spirit?

Was there ever recorded offertory bags being passed around after the miracle?

What's the difference between Acts 3:6-16 and Matthew 7:22?

bump

 

[Waggles]

It would seem that some people have a problem with certain Spirit-filled churches enjoying testimonies to the gifts of
faith and healings and working of miracles.

 

[Br. Bear]

@Waggles

Greetings,

It would seem that some people have a problem with certain Spirit-filled churches enjoying testimonies to the gifts of
faith and healings and working of miracles.

Could you please explain how your reply answers the OP?

From a Bible understanding/study, without any trying to promote one's doctrine, the questions are valid, especially given what can be and indeed is witnessed in our time.

i might add another question if that is OK with @Andyindauk

Are we who go by the name of Christ to be following Him?
(Should we look to Jesus as our/The example, especially considering that He became The Exchange for us, emptying Himself that we might be filled)

Oh that all could and would receive gifts of healings!!! and that all we encountered would receive bodily healing....
but for those who do not , may they and their loved ones be comforted by God's promise...

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying:

“Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man, and He will dwell with them.

They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them as their God.

‘He will wipe away every tear from their eyes,’

and there will be no more death
or mourning or crying or pain,

for the former things have passed away.”

And the One seated on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” Then He said, “Write this down, for these words are faithful and true.”


If you have received gifts of healings, share them; minister them in faith to the glory and praise of God that the Gospel may heal the broken hearted and bind up their wounds; that many would believe and follow the Way.
Go to... for the harvest is ripe. There are plenty of needy folk in your neighborhood... and report back to us that we can join you in thanksgiving and praise.

Jesus is the Lord


Bless you ....><>

 

[watertolive]

It would seem that some people have a problem with certain Spirit-filled churches enjoying testimonies to the gifts of
faith and healings and working of miracles.

Testify...!
Why do you not testify?

 

[Waggles]

If you have received gifts of healings, share them; minister them in faith to the glory and praise of God that the Gospel may heal the broken hearted and bind up their wounds; that many would believe and follow the Way.
Go to... for the harvest is ripe. There are plenty of needy folk in your neighborhood... and report back to us that we can join you in thanksgiving and praise.

Again there comes across spite against the Spirit-filled churches that do indeed have wonderful testimonies to healing -
healed of diseases and ailments, healed of anxiety and depression, the lame do walk, the blind do see, the dead have been raised up.
The gifts described in 1Corinthians 12 are distributed within the body of Christ - within the spirit-filled church - Pentecostal churches.
As to my particular patch of the vineyard we have numerous testimonies to the miraculous as God promised to the saints.

1Corinthians 12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be uninformed.
2 You know that when you were pagans you were led astray to mute idols, however you were led.
3 Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking in the Spirit of God ever says “Jesus is accursed!” and no one can say “Jesus is Lord” except in the Holy Spirit.
4 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit;
5 and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord;
6 and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone.
7 To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.
8 For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit,
9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit,
10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.
11 All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills.

 

[Waggles]

Testify...!
Why do you not testify?

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