They said; LORD we have Have forsaken All, What have we [you] forsaken, wife, son, daughters, home, Job. Lands, what was your cost to be a Disciple.

[PloughBoy]

Did you, have to Count the Cost, before you started. did you sit down and carefully read the contract. Did you understand carefully the "COVENANT" agreement, that Once you put your hands to the Plough. that if you look back, you knew what the "Covenant" said, for it was written on your heart body and soul.

The Cost of Following Jesus

(Matthew 8:18-22; Luke 14:25-33; John 6:60-65)

57And as they went on the way, a certain man said unto him, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest. 58And Jesus said unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the heaven have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head. 59And he said unto another, Follow me. But he said, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. 60But he said unto him, Leave the dead to bury their own dead; but go thou and publish abroad the kingdom of God. 61And another also said, I will follow thee, Lord; but first suffer me to bid farewell to them that are at my house. 62But Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

NASB 1977
“If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, He Cannot Be My Disciple."

He did not say you could not be a believer, but A DISCIPLE, you cannot be, you may claim to be, But your are not. You may say you are but you are not. You may go, but you are not. You might be a believer, but you are not a "DISCIPLE of CHRIST" For HIS WORDS REMAINS and NO one Can Change HIS MEANINGS.

For "Idolatry", too "THE GOD ALMIGHTY" is still a dangerous thing, even under The New Covenant.

Deuteronomy 13 (NASB)77
6“If your brother, your mother’s son, or your son or daughter, or the wife you [love] cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods’ (whom neither you nor your fathers have known, 7of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end), 8you shall not yield to him or listen to him; and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him. 9“But you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10“So you shall stone him to death because he has sought to seduce you from the LORD your God who brought you out from the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. 11“Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and will never again do such a wicked thing among you.

That is The Law, And GOD Our FATHER did not change how he felt about HIS Own LAW to HIS People, But yes, Grace and Mercy is Available for The Sinner. For JESUS came to Fulfilled THE LAW and Not To ABOLISH it. "The WAGES of Sin is Death, The Gift of GOD is Eternal Life.

17“Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill. 18“For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the Law, until all is accomplished. 19“Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and so teaches others, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20“For I say to you, that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Yes this can be confusing to the untrained eye and unto The mortals mind. " For by Grace are you saved through Faith and Not of ourselves."

New King James Version
"For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,"
SO
"WONDER Not NICODEMUS" You cannot tell where The wind came from and where it Goes!

American Standard Version
"The wind bloweth where it will, and thou hearest the voice thereof, but knowest not whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."

And all of these words are strange , as if they are spoken in "Riddles".

PloughBOY.

This is not for me. You look in your own Mirror. Did you? I looked in my own mirror in 1977. And they let me know it too!. what i did, everyday.

 

[watertolive]

What was the cost?

Everything...it is all gone.

All praise glory and honor be unto God. Amen

 

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@PloughBoy said:-

Did you, have to Count the Cost, before you started. did you sit down and carefully read the contract. Did you understand carefully the "COVENANT" agreement, that Once you put your hands to the Plough. that if you look back, you knew what the "Covenant" said, for it was written on your heart body and soul.​

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The Cost of Following Jesus​

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(Matthew 8:18-22; Luke 14:25-33; John 6:60-65)​

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Hello @PloughBoy, ​

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No, I did not. I just saw my need of a Saviour, and I believed what I heard: that the Lord Jesus Christ, God's Son, had died in my place, that I may receive forgiveness of sins, and the hope of eternal life through His Name. I just cried out to God, and asked that the Lord Jesus Christ would be my Saviour. I was young, and had very little understanding, but the Lord's hand was upon me, and began a work that continues to this day, and will do so until the day of Christ, and the fulfilment of His promise of eternal life when He raises me to be with Him for evermore.​

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Praise His Holy Name!​

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In Christ Jesus​

Chris​

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Subject heading:- 'They said; LORD we have forsaken All. What have we [you] forsaken, wife, son, daughters, home, Job. Lands, what was your cost to be a Disciple?'​

Hello again, @PloughBoy,

It is interesting that the term, 'disciple,' is not used outside of the gospels and the book of 'The Acts of the Apostles'. Is there a reason for that do you think?

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[B-A-C]

It is interesting that the term, 'disciple,' is not used outside of the gospels and the book of 'The Acts of the Apostles'. Is there a reason for that do you think?

Isa 8:16; Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
Isa 50:4; The Lord GOD has given Me the tongue of disciples, That I may know how to sustain the weary one with a word. He awakens Me morning by morning, He awakens My ear to listen as a disciple.

There are no more "learners of Jesus"? The word "Christian" only appears in Acts and 1Peter, why do you think that is? The word "God" does not appear in the book of Jude, why do you think that is?

μαθητής
mathētēs
math-ay-tes'
From G3129; a learner, that is, pupil: - disciple.
Total KJV occurrences: 268

limmûd limmûd
lim-mood', lim-mood'
From H3925; instructed: - accustomed, disciple, learned, taught, used.
Total KJV occurrences: 6

Matt 28:18; And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
Matt 28:19; "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
Matt 28:20; teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."

This is the last sentence of the book of Matthew. What else did Jesus need to say?

 

[watertolive]

What was the cost?

An infant doesn't know Abt the cost. We learn that later, and alot more.

After momma died, and my son locked away in prison, then the thief's came. Well, what they couldn't steal, they burned the rest. So yes, it's all gone. But, my prayer was answered. I had prayed Lord remove anything standing in your way. And he did.

So here I am...counting the cost...
By the time it happened, I knew the cost, I just couldn't removed it, so it got removed.

All praise glory and honor be unto God.

 

[watertolive]

Counting the cost...

Jesus said in Mark 10:29 that no man has left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake or the gospel's.

Well, neither did I leave it. It was removed, then I left. Yes, the cost was great, but how much greater is my reward?

However I still have to follow through. I have to pick up my cross and follow Him. The Spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.

Now my son is dead. He was killed in prison. So not even the letters I looked so forward too are in the way. All has been removed.

All praise glory and honor be unto God.

 

[Br. Bear]

Counting the cost...

Jesus said in Mark 10:29 that no man has left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake or the gospel's.

Well, neither did I leave it. It was removed, then I left. Yes, the cost was great, but how much greater is my reward?

However I still have to follow through. I have to pick up my cross and follow Him. The Spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.

Now my son is dead. He was killed in prison. So not even the letters I looked so forward too are in the way. All has been removed.

All praise glory and honor be unto God.

@watertolive
Greetings,

I don't say/write this cheaply...

may God's peace, in Jesus Christ, in His Love, fill you and keep you, always, Sister.

Light is sown for the righteous, and gladness for the upright in heart.
Psalm 97:11

They that sow in tears shall reap in joy. He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall doubtless come again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him.
Psalm 126:5, 6


Bless you ....><>

In the multitude of my thoughts within me Thy comforts delight my soul.
Psalm 94:19


Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort; Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.
2Corinthians 1:3-4

 

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Isa 8:16; Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
Isa 50:4; The Lord GOD has given Me the tongue of disciples, That I may know how to sustain the weary one with a word. He awakens Me morning by morning, He awakens My ear to listen as a disciple.

There are no more "learners of Jesus"? The word "Christian" only appears in Acts and 1Peter, why do you think that is? The word "God" does not appear in the book of Jude, why do you think that is?

μαθητής
mathētēs
math-ay-tes'
From G3129; a learner, that is, pupil: - disciple.
Total KJV occurrences: 268

limmûd limmûd
lim-mood', lim-mood'
From H3925; instructed: - accustomed, disciple, learned, taught, used.
Total KJV occurrences: 6

Matt 28:18; And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
Matt 28:19; "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
Matt 28:20; teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."

This is the last sentence of the book of Matthew. What else did Jesus need to say?

Isa 8:16; Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
Isa 50:4; The Lord GOD has given Me the tongue of disciples, That I may know how to sustain the weary one with a word. He awakens Me morning by morning, He awakens My ear to listen as a disciple.

There are no more "learners of Jesus"? The word "Christian" only appears in Acts and 1Peter, why do you think that is? The word "God" does not appear in the book of Jude, why do you think that is?

μαθητής
mathētēs
math-ay-tes'
From G3129; a learner, that is, pupil: - disciple.
Total KJV occurrences: 268

limmûd limmûd
lim-mood', lim-mood'
From H3925; instructed: - accustomed, disciple, learned, taught, used.
Total KJV occurrences: 6

Matt 28:18; And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
Matt 28:19; "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
Matt 28:20; teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."

This is the last sentence of the book of Matthew. What else did Jesus need to say?

Hello @B-A-C.

Thank you for your input.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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Did you, have to Count the Cost, before you started. did you sit down and carefully read the contract. Did you understand carefully the "COVENANT" agreement, that Once you put your hands to the Plough. that if you look back, you knew what the "Covenant" said, for it was written on your heart body and soul.

The Cost of Following Jesus

(Matthew 8:18-22; Luke 14:25-33; John 6:60-65)

Hello @PloughBoy,

How easy it is to assume you have understood what an OP requires at first reading. Looking back now, I see that I had not understood it at all.

This is not about salvation. For salvation requires no contract, no covenant agreement on our part, for all is of God.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[PloughBoy]

Subject heading:- 'They said; LORD we have Have forsaken All, What have we [you] forsaken, wife, son, daughters, home, Job. Lands, what was your cost to be a Disciple.'​

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Hello @PloughBoy, ​

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No, I did not. I just saw my need of a Saviour, and I believed what I heard: that the Lord Jesus Christ, God's Son, had died in my place, that I may receive forgiveness of sins, and the hope of eternal life through His Name. I just cried out to God, and asked that the Lord Jesus Christ would be my Saviour. I was young, and had very little understanding, but the Lord's hand was upon me, and began a work that continues to this day, and will do so until the day of Christ, and the fulfilment of His promise of eternal life when He raises me to be with Him for evermore.​

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Praise His Holy Name!​

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In Christ Jesus​

Chris​

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You always been His child, even before Creation was even made. He Birth you, before He gave His Son, The Command to Created all The Cosmos, even before He gave it a name. You alway have been His,
New American Standard Bible
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you as a [prophetess] to the nations.”

For you [we] are learning that Truth, day by day as we grow in Christ, as The LORD Pleases, for he is The One that gives of The growth unto That Truth within HIs Word. it is liken unto a baby, learning who his or her loving parents are and how they takes care of us, and teach us who they are, and what they mean to us. For them is temporary, But For Our Father, it began in "Eternity" and In Eternity we will Return. and Be with him forever and ever where there is no end. and If you can Count The Stars and call them by name. For One day, we will receive "Our Full Shared Inheritance" of all that lies in "Eternity" and every Thing The Father has. [who prune's the tree, the gardener or the plant, who cuts back and trim The bush,?] You did answered that.

1 Corinthians 3
…20And again, “The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.” 21Therefore, stop boasting in men. All things are yours, 22whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or the present or the future. All of them belong to you,…
"It is The Father Good pleasure to give you The Kingdom".

Now, must you say, what KINGDOM? All that belongs to The Father, The seen, the unseen, whatever it is, including "ETERNITY" a Kingdom that has no end. and Cannot perish and fade away. Need I say more? So what is earth to us or The Cosmos? Things we can see, has no value to us, Not really in this realm. Not even The Millennium Period cannot be compared to what Our Father has inspired for us, those who are "The Sons of GOD" that only have been revealed in The person Of Jesus Christ, hidden there. But now revealed, as the day draws near, for even at The DOOR. For you have seen The Pictures of The "James Webb Space Telescope" that is nothing but pictures of a mere creation, that Jesus The Lord has made, and we shall do greater works than that, so says The Lord. for we are Heavenly Creatures, not worldly ones, for we are not like the people of this world, "Come out from among them and have no fellowship with them" { they will corrupt our minds} for we are "The FEW". And they cannot think like us, but we can think like them, For our thoughts cannot be comprehended by them, neither do they know our language. for our language is invisible unto their ears. Hearing they hear, but they do not understand. For they have not the ability to do so. Why, because it is The will of GOD.

They cannot hear or understand you, they can't.
Isaiah 6
8Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying: “Whom shall I send? Who will go for Us?” And I said: “Here am I. Send me!” 9And He replied: “Go and tell this people, ‘Be ever hearing, but never understanding; be ever seeing, but never perceiving.’ 10Make the hearts of this people calloused; deafen their ears and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed.”…

The Purpose of Jesus' Parables Mark 4
…11He replied, “The mystery of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to those on the outside everything is expressed in parables, 12so that, ‘ they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven.’”

The "Indicatives" of God. and "The Imperatives of GOD", as it was with "The Apostle Paul" for God did declare who he was and His purpose. even the quote: "Thy Will, will be done on earth as it is done in Heaven". GOD's will always supersedes our WILL, For He is The Potter and we are the Clay. and How does the creation speaks to The Creator. or what can of power, have The creature over "THE GOD"?