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I'm only 5 1/2 minutes into this and every single one so far reeks of heresy and evil.
Top 30 False TEACHINGS Christians must RUN from | Dangerous Beliefs EXPOSED
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I'm only 5 1/2 minutes into this and every single one so far reeks of heresy and evil.
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In the section with Perry Stone, 13:48, I expected to hear something, but the commenter called him false because "visions and dreams" aren't given anymore. I call that false. I have visions and dreams and I'm not the only one.
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You can call it false all you want.
The Bible is CLOSED. No new info is going to be given.
You've no evidence to prove you have "visions and dreams".
Almost everyone has dreams as is normal but dreams of God and new information? No.
Online we're all just reading text so your statement you have them is subjective to you.
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I can prove it, its you that don't believe what the bible says.. The Holy Spirit has told me what comes true. I've told people what the Holy Spirit told me and has come true. It's always people that don't get them that claim people don't and claim no one can. Until it happens to you, you will never believe it. When you have a prophetic dream, you'll never forget it. They are different from normal dreams people have and forget later. A vision is what you see while you are wide awake, and God gives you a vision for a purpose. I've got over 50 pages of dreams written down. Why, because when you start getting them, you'll start writing them down, because you cannot forget them.
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"The Holy Spirit has told me what comes true. I've told people what the Holy Spirit told me and has come true." - Yeah, that's a no
Anyone can have vivid dreams and they are so "real" many don't need to write them down b/c the effect becomes a permanent memory.
There is NO new Revelation or information.
Anyone can have vivid dreams and they are so "real" many don't need to write them down b/c the effect becomes a permanent memory.
There is NO new Revelation or information.
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I'm like Medicbravo, scripture is written to the state of being complete and is lacking nothing. I am fully indwelt with Ruah, a.k.a. the Holy Spirit, and the more I study under His leading the smarter, scripturally, I become. I have encountered folks that were teaching from their dreams but not one of those dreams has agreed with the clear teaching of scripture meaning, at the very least it is incorrect but more accurately and according to the Word of Yahova, they were, knowingly or not, teaching lies. If anything, in any manner, does not line up with Yahova's Word it must be ignored because our God is perfect and never has and never will change.
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If someone tells you "God told me", ask for the exact words. Its not a feeling, or a hunch or "I think". Everything the Holy Spirit tells you lines up with the scriptures.
John 16:13 - However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
The Holy Spirit speaks in plain language that you understand. Prophetic dreams are highly detailed and in full color and in puzzles that you have to think about to understand. If you've never had one, you cannot understand one. Everyone, without exception, does not believe it, because they've never had one, so it must not exist.
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The Holy Spirit told me these exact words, “Before it gets low, says the Lord”. What doesn't it mean? This - Isaiah 13:10 -
“I will punish the world for its evil,
And the wicked for their iniquity.
I will halt the arrogance of the proud,
And will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible
I was told to tell everyone this. When Christ returns, it will not be nice for unbelievers and Universalists.
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I said nothing that debates that, leaving me to wonder why your post. I am very clear that Ruah will never teach us anything that conflicts with Yahova's Written Word.
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You are misapplying that passage! This chapter begins with and is discussing the punishment of Babylon. That might also be applicable to Financial, as well as the future Babylon but I fail to recieve any connection to this discussion from Ruah.
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A couple of things.
It seems this discussion is squishing together ideas about God speaking on the one hand and authority on the other.
Should we say any particular dream or vision should take priority over scripture? No, that's a dangerous move for all sorts of reasons.
Equally, it seems pretty rash to say that God cannot or would not speak to anyone through visions. I know several people who have come to faith as a result of being visited by Jesus in dreams or visions. And God may want to guide us particular situations that scripture does not speak about directly.
So – imagined scenario – if I had a dream in which I felt God was calling me to sell my home and live in a remote and deprived community where there was very little visible Christian witness, I'd take it seriously. I wouldn't put my house up for sale the same day, but I'd spend time in prayer, searching the wisdom and guidance of the Bible, I'd certainly talk to my pastor, others in my church and family to be certain that I'm following God's guidance, not a whim of my own imagination. I'd put my sense that I'm being led by God to the test, and once I'm satisfied that it is God speaking, put faith into action.
The Bible doesn't have specific guidance on whether it's better for me to stay where I am or to move to a new place. There's plenty of examples of people that God has asked to leave their homes; plenty who were obedient by staying where they were.
And lastly, the Bible is not God's ultimate word of revelation, Jesus is the final word. That's what the Bible itself teaches:
Long ago God spoke to our ancestors in many and various ways by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom he also created the worlds.
Hebrews 1:1
It seems this discussion is squishing together ideas about God speaking on the one hand and authority on the other.
Should we say any particular dream or vision should take priority over scripture? No, that's a dangerous move for all sorts of reasons.
Equally, it seems pretty rash to say that God cannot or would not speak to anyone through visions. I know several people who have come to faith as a result of being visited by Jesus in dreams or visions. And God may want to guide us particular situations that scripture does not speak about directly.
So – imagined scenario – if I had a dream in which I felt God was calling me to sell my home and live in a remote and deprived community where there was very little visible Christian witness, I'd take it seriously. I wouldn't put my house up for sale the same day, but I'd spend time in prayer, searching the wisdom and guidance of the Bible, I'd certainly talk to my pastor, others in my church and family to be certain that I'm following God's guidance, not a whim of my own imagination. I'd put my sense that I'm being led by God to the test, and once I'm satisfied that it is God speaking, put faith into action.
The Bible doesn't have specific guidance on whether it's better for me to stay where I am or to move to a new place. There's plenty of examples of people that God has asked to leave their homes; plenty who were obedient by staying where they were.
And lastly, the Bible is not God's ultimate word of revelation, Jesus is the final word. That's what the Bible itself teaches:
Long ago God spoke to our ancestors in many and various ways by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom he also created the worlds.
Hebrews 1:1
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If God was going to reveal more/new info then it would've been in the Bible and added in the future.
However, who has that authority? No one.
Revelation IS the final Word.
I'm no expert on Revelation but it is one of my favorite books.
Top 30 False TEACHINGS Christians must RUN from | Dangerous Beliefs EXPOSED
The material things are figures of spiritual things. The parables of our Lord JESUS are good examples.
So what matters and prevails is the everlasting Word of GOD, The Word of GOD is from everlasting to everslasting, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand?
Around 2000 years ago, and around 4000 years after Adam, it still was the fourth Day of GOD's Days, the Word was made flesh, great MYSTERY, because the Word is GOD, self-executing, and He called Himself or was named by JESUS. This is the only NAME of GOD-Acts 4:12 and Hebrews 1:1-3, take a look, it among other biblical references, understand? Yes, it still was the fourth Day, and the Word made flesh-named JESUS-, said: "My Father is working until now, and I Myself am working.” John 5:17NASB. The Word made flesh-JESUS- also He said: I and the Father are One.”John 10:30. And The one who has seen Me has seen the Father; John 14:9 combined with Hebrews 1:3. Take a look.
Again: The material things are figures of spiritual things. The parables of our Lord JESUS are good examples.
That said, what does the number 30 used in this topic speaking about false Teachings and dangerous beliefs signify? Well, the number 30 is the number of the BETRAYERS, understand? Speaking about this caste of demons among the people of GOD, our Lord JESUS warned, saying: Mathew 24:9-12NASB" Many will fall away, and they will betray one another and hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will rise up and mislead many people. 12 And because lawlessness is increased, most people’s love will become cold". And Paul Apostle revealed: 1Tim.4:1-2: -->1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron.
Remember: JESUS left very clear saying: John 6:70-71: -> 70 “Did I Myself not choose you, the twelve? And yet one of you is a devil.” 71 Now He meant Judas the son of Simon Iscariot; for he, one of the twelve, was going to betray Him.
And Paul revealed: 2 Thes.2:3 (combined with John 5:43-47 and Revelation 13:11), saying: No one is to deceive you in any way! For it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the MAN of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction. The MAN of lawlessness, son of perdition, Satan himself incarnated, he was born decades ago, and will manifest himeself from now on, any day he will manifest himself in Israel, so GET READY.
JESUS WARNED, remember: Matthew 24: 13-14: -> 13 But the one who endures to the END is the one who will be saved. 14 This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations(this prophecy LITERALLY is already fulfilled), and then the END will come. (1Corinthians 15:24-27 combined with Revelation 11:15-18. Get ready
