Vision of Jesus Christ Today

[EphremHagos]

Since without knowledge of Jesus Christ, a.k.a., "I Am Who I Am", we will die in our sins (John 8:24), is there in the Scriptures any specific authorization for standard and perpetual vision of Jesus Christ just like Moses had (Ex. 3: 1-15)?

 

[Boanerges]

Joh 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

Christ has never been hidden form those with eyes to see my friend. In the beginning (in Christ) God created all things. In the Tabernacle of Moses we see a perfect picture of the sacrifice of Christ. He runs throughout history from start to it's eventual finish and throughout the bible from Genesis to Revelations.:shade:

 

[Brighthouse]

John 20:24-29,and the last one before Revelations known in the Bible Acts 9:10-18 Hope this helps you EphremHagos.

 

[EphremHagos]

Joh 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

Christ has never been hidden form those with eyes to see my friend. In the beginning (in Christ) God created all things. In the Tabernacle of Moses we see a perfect picture of the sacrifice of Christ. He runs throughout history from start to it's eventual finish and throughout the bible from Genesis to Revelations.:shade:

No one has eyes to see who Jesus truly is. Like Nicodemus, who presumed to know, "the people of the world are wrong about Jesus". Jesus Christ is completely beyond personal knowledge except by the Spirit's revelation which was poured out, once and for all, in Christ's death on the cross. All this is in the Scriptures, but typically abandoned by Christian theology and tradition.

Additional reasons are Jesus' use of consistently altruistic language, "figures of speech about the Father" and introduction of a paradigm shift in assumptions from the Levitical sacrifices to "the sacrifice of Christ".

(John 3: 1-15; 8: 21-28; 14: 15-21; 16: 5-15, 25-28; 19: 30-37)

 

[EphremHagos]

John 20:24-29,and the last one before Revelations known in the Bible Acts 9:10-18 Hope this helps you EphremHagos.

Brighthouse, Many thanks!

Do I see a serious problem here?

Without the perpetual vision of Jesus Christ, strictly according to the Scriptures, the terms of the "new covenant" focused on knowledge of God for all and sealed in Christ's death on the cross, cannot be validated and real!

(Jer. 31: 31-34; John 4: 21-26; Matt. 26: 26-29; 27: 50-56; Heb. 10: 19-25)

 

[EphremHagos]

No, thank you! This does not at all help anyone. A second-hand Christ ("by faith through grace"?) is a misnomer if that is what you are implying. The Gospel is far greater than that!

John 20:24-29,and the last one before Revelations known in the Bible Acts 9:10-18 Hope this helps you EphremHagos.

 

[EphremHagos]

Really? If you, yourself, have personally seen Jesus Christ, please answer "the 5 wise W's" about him. Thank you!

Joh 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

Christ has never been hidden form those with eyes to see my friend. In the beginning (in Christ) God created all things. In the Tabernacle of Moses we see a perfect picture of the sacrifice of Christ. He runs throughout history from start to it's eventual finish and throughout the bible from Genesis to Revelations.:shade:

 

[revbrad]

EphremHagos...I am unsure what you are really after here...

Of course no one living has Seen Christ in the physical form (I will not say, however, that He has not appeared to some)

As born again children of God we do see Christ, in creation, in others, in the scriptures......

Maybe I am uneducated but what are the 5 wise W's?

 

[Brighthouse]

Second hand??? LOL Without this so called second hand, condemnation would rule with the other hand you do have bro. hehe(Rom 8:1) Perhaps that is why we have two hands to start with. I do not know where you are at in Christ Jesus,it is not my place to judge!So I do not! The New Covenant, could only be made by Jesus, after only Jesus could fulfill the old one. God himself poured out all of his wrath on his dear Son,so he would never have to pour this out upon us.So grace is far from being second handed to me bro. (hebrews 7:6-13)

Before this good brother,conditions by us had to be made to keep the law,which of course we never could,hence why Jesus came in the first place for us. His one and only sacrifice made upon the cross,was made to the law as well,even this was part of his cross he was nailed to.( Colossians 2:13-14) And from all the works of Jesus Christ and him alone,we his children have been set free from the law forever!! Those who wish to mix the law, with grace,are like those who wish to put old wine, in new wineskins.Kind of bitter tasting.hehe

Grace to me brother is not second hand,but rather what leads the nature of love for oneanother in the first place. Since Jesus is our very life now,those who partake, or abide in him, others can see Jesus in them.( john 14:6)LIFE Who Jesus is, is our teacher. And since Jesus has so great a love for us!( john 15:11-17) Why then do you look at grace as being something that was never the very nature of Jesus himself? ( eph 2:8-10) On my salvation, I saw Jesus himself. I saw Jesus from the side,as he was waving an evil spirit away from my body. I am unknown as to whether I was in body or spirit at the time brother.I do not know myself,I was above my body at the time.

From this realm, what I call paradise, because from where I was at the time,I could see both the gates of heaven,and outer darkness. A most evil being came from my left side,lighting and smoke came from such an enity, the gates of heaven opened to my right,and Jesus moved past the gates. The smell was simply awful which came from the outer darkness area,but when Jesus moved past me from the side and waved his hand over the enity,a sweet fragrace filled both the air,and my senses.( 2 cor 2:14-16) I was set free by Jesus himself!!Praise GOD!!

Later on Holy Spirit spoke this to me. God sends who he knows,and he knows who he sends. You may have a tough time believing this brother,but Jesus is as real today, as he ever was. And in his hand of grace,there is no imitation.There are only results from it. Blessing bro

 

[revbrad]

Brighthouse....So awesome!....what an experience

 

[EphremHagos]

Please prove me wrong if you can!

"Creation, others and the scriptures" have little or nothing to do with the terms and seal of the "new covenant" (Jer. 31: 31-34; Matt. 27: 50-56); and with personal knowledge of Jesus Christ on the basis of the vision in "being born again" OR "being born spiritually of the Spirit", as fully prescribed, taught and dispensed. (John 3: 1-21; ff.)

In any case, the question does not call for seeing Christ in physical form. That is long over! If so, Christ's reported appearances to some require investigation based on arguments from the Scriptures. Would you care to volunteer the sources?

The 5 Wise W's, which you can find on your Internet, are nothing more than a set of questions answered in a full story.

EphremHagos...I am unsure what you are really after here...

Of course no one living has Seen Christ in the physical form (I will not say, however, that He has not appeared to some)

As born again children of God we do see Christ, in creation, in others, in the scriptures......

Maybe I am uneducated but what are the 5 wise W's?

 

[revbrad]

Please prove me wrong if you can!

"Creation, others and the scriptures" have little or nothing to do with the terms and seal of the "new covenant" (Jer. 31: 31-34; Matt. 27: 50-56); and with personal knowledge of Jesus Christ on the basis of the vision in "being born again" OR "being born spiritually of the Spirit", as fully prescribed, taught and dispensed. (John 3: 1-21; ff.)

In any case, the question does not call for seeing Christ in physical form. That is long over! If so, Christ's reported appearances to some require investigation based on arguments from the Scriptures. Would you care to volunteer the sources?

The 5 Wise W's, which you can find on your Internet, are nothing more than a set of questions answered in a full story.

Acts 7:55-56
Acts 7:55
But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

Acts 7:56
And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

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[Brighthouse]

Prove you wrong brother?? hehe What is truth to you? the 5 W'S? 1. Who is it about.? 2. what happened?3.When did it take place? 4.Where did it take place? 5.Why did it happen? And the sixth one because many do include this as well.6. How did it happen? What one chooses to believe,cannot be debated unless the one who believes is willing to change there belief! We all have many different beliefs as you well know! Truth is build upon fact,the problem many times, is that facts for us cannot be established in our own minds.

We were not present during many of the truths of the bible for example. I sure was not with Moses,or Adam and Eve,so because i was not there,and I have no evidence of anything,does this mean they did not exist? Man has learned from man,rather then from the Lord.This is a big problem for many! They choose to believe in mans ways because,they are fearful. Look for example at the deeds of the flesh in Gal 5:17-21 Notice something very important from this!!! NO where in the Word is there fear!! Fear is a Spirit being!!( 2 tim 1:7) For GOD has not given us a SPIRIT!!!! OF FEAR!!!, but rather of POWER!!!< LOVE!!!< and!! a sound mind! Fear takes all these away!

Now brother EphremHagos I am not rebuking you,nor being mean to you in any way! This is not, nor has been my purpose! I just wish to give you something to consider is all. There is to be NO FEAR of anyone or anything!! The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,and fear of anyone else,or anything else, places that above the Lord we serve! The spirit of fear has become an idol to many! Not pointing any fingers here either!! LOl Those who fear know who they are. But brother Mark!! isn't all right to have a little? ( rev 21:8) But for the fearful or cowardly which of course leads to unbelief,and can lead to the others metioned, look at there result. So from this! Lets look at how fear all started anyway!

1.Who is it about? Answer all those who remain in fear. 2. What happened? ( Genesis 3:1-7) verse 2-3 the woman answered in truth. verse4 The serpent said to her, you shall not die! verse 5 For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God knowing good and evil. Now fear came to her!! What if he is right!! What if God told me something not fully true? Why cannot i eat then!! The woman saw verse 6 that the tree was good.The devil uses words and images always! For the devil is the idol to which fear is worshiped bro.

So rather then placing her trust in who created her!! She choose to believe a lie! 3. when did it take place? There is some question about that brother!! ( Isaiah 14:12-15) The 5 i wills!! verses 13-14! Or the 5 W's! These 5 are from selfishness,which can lead to anger, because of the fear one has in what they believe. But for those of us who have no fear,that is because we have chosen to believe what our creater said in his Word.His LIVING Word!! Because the God who gave these writing for men to write on his behalf for us,is still living! And so is HIS WORD!!! Not mans words.

As our Lord intended for all of us so long ago in the garden bro. 4. where did it take place? It takes place wherever one has fear. 5. Why did it happen? Since God knew from the get-go,both man and woman would fail in there own choices,he had to send one, who not only could fulfill the law presented later on,but to give us a much better one,laid upon much better promises.( hebrews 8:6-13) Limiting both man and woman to have to only do one thing!! The same requirement made so long ago in the garden of Eden!! JUST BELIEVE ME!!!

6 How did it happen?? By covering the other 5, we know how. The purpose to all of this,is so,WE would not relay on man for anything, but to love another! (Rom 13:8-10!!) LOVE covers the law! And opens a much greater PROMISE!!!! TO ALL OF US!!! ( Phil 4:4-9!!!) LOVE brings both REST!! and lasting peace in our Jesus!Because we have chosen to believe him,rather then others,we look to him, rather then others,we listen to his Word rather then others,and we receive from HIM rather then others! The 4 I wills for us bro!! From this, there is no fear,no reason to ever have it,and every reason to depart from it! You sure can disagree bro!!

You have every freedom to do so,but I ask you consider this,for from this in my own life,I have freedom,I have no fear,and i look to one Lord my God!! His name is wonderful Conselor, my prince of peace,My and hopefully yours, Jesus Christ OUR LORD! Blessing to all who read this. and hear the wisdom of the Lord in me. For it is not by my words, or deeds one is saved!! I point to Jesus,I look to Jesus,I am thankful to Jesus,and yes, I love my Jesus amen! Let fear depart from all of you, for all time!IN JESUS NAME I PRAY!!! amen! Phil 4:19 And MY GOD WILL supply ALL YOUR NEEDS according to HIS riches in Glory IN CHRST JESUS! amen!

 

[EphremHagos]

The work of the Holy Spirit breaks the barrier of the written word.
Based on the vision-producing death Jesus suffered on the cross, words prove fallible to describe his real identity and authority, as the "I Am Who I Am", a.k.a., the Father referred to in spurious “figures of speech”.
We are authorized to attempt breaking the word barrier and experiencing the visions of Christ's immortality for our imitations. Otherwise, we can be wrong about Jesus Christ! Godspeed!
(John 1: 50-51; 14: 18-21; 16: 5-33; 19: 30-37)

 

[christbased]

Brighthouse, I BELIEVE!

I have a question Brighthouse, how did you get to this experience? What was your path? Did you go into your closet and pray? Were you asleep? Praying on the couch? Did it just happen all of a sudden?
I would like to know as I want to commune with our Lord as well sir, for very important reasons. Please DO NOT withhold anything Brighthouse, you are among believers sir, some of us have experienced some pretty amazing things. Please share your path

 

[EphremHagos]

I cannot answer for Brighthouse.

If I may answer out of turn, Jesus Christ by his very divine nature and fitting name, viz.: "source of life" with the eternal name of God "I am who I am" (John 5:26; 8: 21-32, resp.) is self-revealing for our visional seeing and knowledge in his death on the cross, a.k.a., Spirit-active, perfect and diacritical. This is the practical translation of "the way, the truth and the life" (John 14: 6, 18-21).

That is why Jesus said, "No one goes to the Father except by me." (Ibid., v. 6). There is no other way in the whole of Scriptures.

Brighthouse, I BELIEVE!

I have a question Brighthouse, how did you get to this experience? What was your path? Did you go into your closet and pray? Were you asleep? Praying on the couch? Did it just happen all of a sudden?
I would like to know as I want to commune with our Lord as well sir, for very important reasons. Please DO NOT withhold anything Brighthouse, you are among believers sir, some of us have experienced some pretty amazing things. Please share your path

 

[Brighthouse]

Brother Christbased. You ask a question that has taken so many years of training in Holy Spirit ( 1 john 2:27) I know only in part.( 1 Cor 13:11-13) Please do remember these scriptures.For it is only!! by abiding in God's Own Word does any of us begin to even know in part! I speak only for me brother,as to how this was done by Jesus in me.step 1. BALANCE!!! Balance is obtained in Christ Jesus, when one understands how much time they need to spend in Christ Jesus! The balance of your time spent is so very important! ( proverbs 11:1-2!!) Pride comes when we ever think we can spend so little time in our balance to the Word,and to prayer.

For the true friend of Christ Jesus always stays with him. Does not matter if you are at the mall,at a store, at play, or at your jobsite. You mind is being renewed!( rom 12:1-2) Now your words and actions matter! As a child, we first learn this through our Jesus in us. For without a balance in ourselves, we can have no balance in our flesh at all! The flesh can speak!!! It tells you things as our Lord sure can! Like for example. On Saturday you had to get up very early, to join some friends on a picnic,but on Sunday,the flesh tells you that you are just to tired to go to Church this Sunday,remember you need your rest,and sunday is a rest day!! LOL SO?? How is ones balance?

They can get up early to be with friends, but are to tired to be with relatives to hear the Word of God? See the point brother? 2. It takes discipline! It takes courage! Please look at ( 1 cor 9:23-27!!) then read the 4 chapters of 2 Tim! it is all here my brother! The question is not whether we read the Word or not!The question is are we willing to apply the Word to our life? Do we make excuses?Well this brother or this sister who is older in Christ does not do these things!!YEA!! And look at where they are at to! Where is there balance? We do these things brother not to point at others!

We do these things because our Love for all Jesus has done for us, is so real and true to us! We do these things because we care! Not forced,but rather because we LOVE our Lord! I know good brother you both Love the Lord,and wish to please him in everyway! ( rom 13:11-14) Rom 14:4-12!!!! Here is a scripture that will always keep our balance! We do not look to others belief or faith,we measure our faith by the Abiding of the very Word that has set us free!For John 8:32 has no merit without verse 31!! We can have no truth unless we abide in Jesus, which also means his very Word he gave us to abide in!

In this my brother, you will be off of the starting blocks, and truly into the race set before all of us! If a brother of sister shall stumble and fall,we do not press ahead,we stop and go pick him, or her up!( matt 18:11-14) We become doers of the word, and not hearers only!( james 1:22) Jesus promises you this!!( Phil 1:6!) This is no longer based upon your feeling and emotion,we have them, but not to believe in them! We believe in that which cannot be seen! For in these things my good brother in christ lies the eternal!( 2 cor 4:1-18!!)Take note of verse 18! Do we have weakness?SURE!!! And Jesus has an answer to this in our lives as well! ( 2 cor 12:9-10!) Notice Paul got his answer in the chapter before!!( 1 cor 11:23-30!!) All this was, is a confimation to each of our own faith!

To stay established in Christ Jesus ,we all must first learn how to! We are all a work in progress my brother! But we do not stop,we press forward in our Jesus! For to follow after Jesus is not looking behind ourselves,but rather forward to where he is,so are we! Valleys are made low,when we in Christ look always to him, who lifts us like eagles over them! ( isaiah 43:19, Isaiah 40:28-31!!)Always the word my brother!! ALWAYS!!!! the abiding of God's own Word,created!!!! For God's own KINGS KIDS!!

TO both follow!! and show!! For in this my brother is the true light of love,LOVE which gives grace and mercy, the same we so needed!! For the light of the world is Jesus is us! A city on a hill has no light upon it, until the children of God present this light upon that hill!!( matt 5:13-16!!) The purpose?? For the Lord who has loved us so totaly!! TO BE SEEN!!!!! IN US!!! HIS CHILDREN!! ( col 2:6-7) ( col 3:14-17!) The more we stay in God's word the more balanced we become! And the more balanced we become,the more of the part we do learn,we can walk in!! amen! To the GLORY!!! of our Jesus whom we serve! The first scripture Jesus showed me, I show you!! ( isaiah 41:9-13!!) this changed my life brother! A little side note.I have no fear brother!! fear was sorly tested in my life many times to both have it, and keep it! I could never have done this on my own dear brother!I had to learn how NEVER!!! to have it! Fear always seeks!Like a roaring lion!( 1 peter 5:8-11!) The enemy always!! always!!!! Looks to bring this Goliath to our faith!( 1 sam 17!!) In Christ only can he always!! always!!! be defeated!

The will of God is to always stay thankful!!( 1 thess 5:18) so stay thankful! And love is prefected in both staying thankful and!! casting all fear away!( 1 john 4:17-19) Fear can be beaten!But so few wish to have the balance to do it! We are those few!!So we can always be HIS LIGHT!!! Part of the narrow road,is leading a free from fear life!This can only be done when we abide in God's Word for our lives!! Jesus himself was an example for us!! Look at matt 4, where no less then 3 times did Jesus himself use the very Word to overcome the devil himself! Are we any better then Jesus??? LOL I sure am not!

I know this! If you follow what I am saying,you indeed will become a true child of God! AN OVERCOMER!!!! Many people look at revelations is a cetrain light.it deals with an antichrist,and other things,but the central theme of revelations is not all the bad!!But rather in overcoming!!! Check out all of these verse for proof! Rev 2:7,11,17,26 rev 3:5,12,21.Rev 21:7!! This is a direct result of what happens when we truly abide in HIS WORD! NO FEAR!! ONLY an establishment in Christ Jesus himself! ( eph 1:11-14!!!) We are already sealed!! WE are already seated with him in the heavenly places!!!!( eph 2:6-10!!) We have a place already in our Jesus bro!!( john 14:2-3!!)What fear shall we have??? LOL NONE!!! Because Jesus already paid the full price for each of us who does what???amen!!! there is one requirment for the believer!!! TO BELIEVE!!

 

[EphremHagos]

The answer is in Christ's death on the cross, viz.: Spirit-active, perfect and diacritical, a.k.a., A HOLY SUBJECT, whose postmortem examination cannot be conducted without a radical change in man's way of thinking equivalent to Moses "taking off his sandals" to comprehend a supernatural incident. (Matt. 16: 22-23; Ex. 3: 1-15, resp.)

Other significant names include: "the Lamb of God" (John 1:29), "living sacrifice" (Rom. 12:1),"the faithful witness: the first-born from the dead" (Rev. 1: 4-8),

Brother Christbased. You ask a question that has taken so many years of training in Holy Spirit ( 1 john 2:27) I know only in part.( 1 Cor 13:11-13) Please do remember these scriptures.For it is only!! by abiding in God's Own Word does any of us begin to even know in part! I speak only for me brother,as to how this was done by Jesus in me.step 1. BALANCE!!! Balance is obtained in Christ Jesus, when one understands how much time they need to spend in Christ Jesus! The balance of your time spent is so very important! ( proverbs 11:1-2!!) Pride comes when we ever think we can spend so little time in our balance to the Word,and to prayer.

For the true friend of Christ Jesus always stays with him. Does not matter if you are at the mall,at a store, at play, or at your jobsite. You mind is being renewed!( rom 12:1-2) Now your words and actions matter! As a child, we first learn this through our Jesus in us. For without a balance in ourselves, we can have no balance in our flesh at all! The flesh can speak!!! It tells you things as our Lord sure can! Like for example. On Saturday you had to get up very early, to join some friends on a picnic,but on Sunday,the flesh tells you that you are just to tired to go to Church this Sunday,remember you need your rest,and sunday is a rest day!! LOL SO?? How is ones balance?

They can get up early to be with friends, but are to tired to be with relatives to hear the Word of God? See the point brother? 2. It takes discipline! It takes courage! Please look at ( 1 cor 9:23-27!!) then read the 4 chapters of 2 Tim! it is all here my brother! The question is not whether we read the Word or not!The question is are we willing to apply the Word to our life? Do we make excuses?Well this brother or this sister who is older in Christ does not do these things!!YEA!! And look at where they are at to! Where is there balance? We do these things brother not to point at others!

We do these things because our Love for all Jesus has done for us, is so real and true to us! We do these things because we care! Not forced,but rather because we LOVE our Lord! I know good brother you both Love the Lord,and wish to please him in everyway! ( rom 13:11-14) Rom 14:4-12!!!! Here is a scripture that will always keep our balance! We do not look to others belief or faith,we measure our faith by the Abiding of the very Word that has set us free!For John 8:32 has no merit without verse 31!! We can have no truth unless we abide in Jesus, which also means his very Word he gave us to abide in!

In this my brother, you will be off of the starting blocks, and truly into the race set before all of us! If a brother of sister shall stumble and fall,we do not press ahead,we stop and go pick him, or her up!( matt 18:11-14) We become doers of the word, and not hearers only!( james 1:22) Jesus promises you this!!( Phil 1:6!) This is no longer based upon your feeling and emotion,we have them, but not to believe in them! We believe in that which cannot be seen! For in these things my good brother in christ lies the eternal!( 2 cor 4:1-18!!)Take note of verse 18! Do we have weakness?SURE!!! And Jesus has an answer to this in our lives as well! ( 2 cor 12:9-10!) Notice Paul got his answer in the chapter before!!( 1 cor 11:23-30!!) All this was, is a confimation to each of our own faith!

To stay established in Christ Jesus ,we all must first learn how to! We are all a work in progress my brother! But we do not stop,we press forward in our Jesus! For to follow after Jesus is not looking behind ourselves,but rather forward to where he is,so are we! Valleys are made low,when we in Christ look always to him, who lifts us like eagles over them! ( isaiah 43:19, Isaiah 40:28-31!!)Always the word my brother!! ALWAYS!!!! the abiding of God's own Word,created!!!! For God's own KINGS KIDS!!

TO both follow!! and show!! For in this my brother is the true light of love,LOVE which gives grace and mercy, the same we so needed!! For the light of the world is Jesus is us! A city on a hill has no light upon it, until the children of God present this light upon that hill!!( matt 5:13-16!!) The purpose?? For the Lord who has loved us so totaly!! TO BE SEEN!!!!! IN US!!! HIS CHILDREN!! ( col 2:6-7) ( col 3:14-17!) The more we stay in God's word the more balanced we become! And the more balanced we become,the more of the part we do learn,we can walk in!! amen! To the GLORY!!! of our Jesus whom we serve! The first scripture Jesus showed me, I show you!! ( isaiah 41:9-13!!) this changed my life brother! A little side note.I have no fear brother!! fear was sorly tested in my life many times to both have it, and keep it! I could never have done this on my own dear brother!I had to learn how NEVER!!! to have it! Fear always seeks!Like a roaring lion!( 1 peter 5:8-11!) The enemy always!! always!!!! Looks to bring this Goliath to our faith!( 1 sam 17!!) In Christ only can he always!! always!!! be defeated!

The will of God is to always stay thankful!!( 1 thess 5:18) so stay thankful! And love is prefected in both staying thankful and!! casting all fear away!( 1 john 4:17-19) Fear can be beaten!But so few wish to have the balance to do it! We are those few!!So we can always be HIS LIGHT!!! Part of the narrow road,is leading a free from fear life!This can only be done when we abide in God's Word for our lives!! Jesus himself was an example for us!! Look at matt 4, where no less then 3 times did Jesus himself use the very Word to overcome the devil himself! Are we any better then Jesus??? LOL I sure am not!

I know this! If you follow what I am saying,you indeed will become a true child of God! AN OVERCOMER!!!! Many people look at revelations is a cetrain light.it deals with an antichrist,and other things,but the central theme of revelations is not all the bad!!But rather in overcoming!!! Check out all of these verse for proof! Rev 2:7,11,17,26 rev 3:5,12,21.Rev 21:7!! This is a direct result of what happens when we truly abide in HIS WORD! NO FEAR!! ONLY an establishment in Christ Jesus himself! ( eph 1:11-14!!!) We are already sealed!! WE are already seated with him in the heavenly places!!!!( eph 2:6-10!!) We have a place already in our Jesus bro!!( john 14:2-3!!)What fear shall we have??? LOL NONE!!! Because Jesus already paid the full price for each of us who does what???amen!!! there is one requirment for the believer!!! TO BELIEVE!!

 

[amanda123]

This thread is totally confusing with lots of crptic questions.

I don't think it wud help anyone who is seeking Jesus.

 

[EphremHagos]

Actually, the cryptic answers are not flaws but indicators of Jesus' revelation of self-sufficiency, a.k.a., absolute power over death and life, which is conclcusively verifiable by the Holy Spirit alone (independent of and at the same time based on a road map in the Scriptures).

Therefore,what resolves the seeking of Jesus is only Answer to specific Prayer for the Holy Spirit which is ours for the asking! Bless you. (Luke 11:13)

This thread is totally confusing with lots of crptic questions.

I don't think it wud help anyone who is seeking Jesus.