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Who A Real Sheep To Deal With Any Bible Verse Correctly?

tonytime

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Never an attempt to do wit tests here nor to seek out advice. Never an attempt to find perfect people here nor to throw weight around with intellect. Discourage graphics and vain talk from those with childish juvenile mocking behavior. My only purpose for being here is to find 100% Bible Unity With Real Bible Believers. I appreciate sweethearts but never content with a phony sweetheart only. No time for goats or fake tare. No chip on my shoulder with you just wise enough to know from experience that we really have only Fake Unity Meetings in the name of religion.


With this said let's find out if we're equally yoked so we can do what Paul instructed a real sheep to do:

2 Corinthians 6:14-17 ; Amos 3:3 ; Psalms 133:1

Unless we're 2 or more people with verse for verse agreement with the book no equal yoke with a unbeliever?

Won't support or fellowship with any ministry that feels different than what the book says here? No if ands or buts to 2 Cor. 6:14-17; Amos 3:3 and
Psalms 133:1?


Romans 7:2-3

This same Christian that will tell me haters are going to the Lake of Fire, is this the same Christian that will say your going to the Lake of Fire if you remarry different divorcees which is adultery? No if ands or buts to
Romans 7:2-
3?


Won't fellowship or support any ministry that feels different than what the book says here?


2 Peter 1:20-21

No private interpreted scripture is Godly on any bible verse? No if ands or buts to 2 Peter 1:20-21?

If you say judging will take you to the Lake of Fire are you the same Christian that will say private interpretation on anything in this book will? No if ands or buts to 2 Peter 1:20-21?

2 Timothy 3:16

If you say adultery will take you to the Lake of Fire are you the same Christian that feels disregarding any bible verse for correction and teaching will? No if ands or buts to 2 Timothy 3:16?

1 Timothy 2:9-15

If you say lieing will take you to the Lake of Fire are you the same Christian that feels this way with certain apparel and if people have anything to do with female church leaders? No if ands or butts to
1 Timothy 2:9-15?


Won't fellowship and support any ministry that intentionally disregards these scriptures or any scripture? No if ands or buts to Galations 1:8-9? No if ands or buts to Matthew 5:19? No if ands or buts to Amos 3:3? No if ands or buts to 2 Corinthians 6:14-17?

Well the heart of the matter is before us. Either we're real sheep looking for each other or not. Never into pen pal games here to kill boredom ever. Confused offended people at the book you have a nice life with your kind only. I can cut you some slack if your never the wittest with the book sometimes. I can cut you some slack if your never a perfect Christian. I can't cut slack to unbelievers that intentionally go against correct teaching in this book on any bible verse. That's the 100% Bible Unity necessary to fulfill the will of God in 2 Corinthians 6:14-17.. Never mind your celebrity status or how fat your testimony is to write a biography on it. Never mind your tycoon status. The real you will do. Are you a real sheep? Is this a real sheep for unity the bible way or the Amos 3:3 way?
 
Hello and welcome Tonytime,

Welcome to TalkJesus. It is always good to see more bible believing Christians arriving here. As per your post. I'm not entirely clear about what you are asking/saying, but I will direct you to the "statement of faith" as posted by Chad...
Chad said:
About Talk Jesus:

Talk Jesus is an online church, a body of believers that gather to fellowship, praise and worship our Lord Savior Jesus Christ, GOD Himself. It is not about debating Scripture for Scripture is the infallible Word of GOD. It is Truth from Almighty GOD, the Alpha and the Omega. The power of Scripture, aka Truth speaks for itself so their is no opinion of man or debate among them that may, could or shall disturb the Way of Truth.

Talk Jesus forums is not meant to be a replacement of your local church but a replacement of any online ungodly place that Satan may lead you to. Talk Jesus is a site that has one main purpose. Glorify GOD. Within that purpose comes preaching the Gospels, the Truth to the saved to build up their faith, the unsaved to reach their hearts with the love of Christ so that they may be saved by the grace of GOD through Jesus Christ.

Talk Jesus is a temporary earthly home for us believers to gather together as THE BODY OF CHRIST and do the Father's will on earth as it is done in Heaven, before the glorious second coming of our Savior Jesus Christ.

God bless you all!

Your Brother in Christ,
Chad

I would also encourage you to read the "10 commandments" that have been put into place for clarity and keeping TalkJesus enjoyable for all.

tonytime said:
My only purpose for being here is to find 100% Bible Unity With Real Bible Believers. ... just wise enough to know from experience that we really have only Fake Unity Meetings in the name of religion.
This statement concerns me. As you can see, you seek 100% Bible Unity, but then you state that only Fake Unity meetings take place. You put a blanket statement out there that seems to indicate that you already know you won't find what you are looking for. Makes me wonder why you bother to look, if you are so adamant about the lack of a possibility to find it. But that is not for me to question.

tonytime said:
I can't cut slack to unbelievers that intentionally go against correct teaching in this book on any bible verse.
I think you'll see from the statement of faith, and "10 commandments", that we won't put up with unbelievers coming to cause strife and separation. They have come many times before, and they always leave exposed, frustrated, without victory, and most importantly, with the simple, and powerfully truth planted in them to be "watered" by the Holy Spirit.

Again, welcome. Enjoy your time here.

Go with the peace and joy of our Lord, Jesus Christ,
Nigh
 
My faith is there or I wouldn't seek out and expect real sheep while coming here. If I'm a hater and judger for saying your not a real sheep or believer if you intentionally say remarrying different divorcees is not adultery to take you to the Lake of Fire then I can bare my cross. If I'm a judger for saying your not a real sheep or believer if you intentionally say female church leaders and certain apparel will not take you to the Lake of Fire then I can bare my cross also. If I'm a judger for saying your not a real sheep and believer for intentionally having private and incorrect interpretation of any scripture then I can bare my cross again. If all scripture isn't for correction and doctrine, etc. (2 Timothy 3:16) then I can be man enough to apologize for being a hater and judger. If condemning is the same thing as rebuking then I can apologize to everbody now. If all correcting and exhorting is the same thing as hating and judging I can apologize now. If God doesn't determine heaven or the Lake of Fire for anybody based on complete bible agreement unity the bible way on any scripture then I will apologize for mentioning these verses:

2 Timothy 3:16
2 Peter 1:20-21
Amos 3:3
Psalms 133:1
2 Corinthians 6:14-17

If boldness like this is ungodly then I will apologize for Jesus throwing over the tables of the moneychangers in the temple.

I got a Amen with a real sheep out here hearing his voice now on the heart of the matter before us?




Nigh said:
Hello and welcome Tonytime,
Welcome to TalkJesus. It is always good to see more bible believing Christians arriving here. As per your post. I'm not entirely clear about what you are asking/saying, but I will direct you to the "statement of faith" as posted by Chad...
I would also encourage you to read the "10 commandments" that have been put into place for clarity and keeping TalkJesus enjoyable for all.
This statement concerns me. As you can see, you seek 100% Bible Unity, but then you state that only Fake Unity meetings take place. You put a blanket statement out there that seems to indicate that you already know you won't find what you are looking for. Makes me wonder why you bother to look, if you are so adamant about the lack of a possibility to find it. But that is not for me to question.
I think you'll see from the statement of faith, and "10 commandments", that we won't put up with unbelievers coming to cause strife and separation. They have come many times before, and they always leave exposed, frustrated, without victory, and most importantly, with the simple, and powerfully truth planted in them to be "watered" by the Holy Spirit.
Again, welcome. Enjoy your time here.
Go with the peace and joy of our Lord, Jesus Christ,
Nigh
 
If God doesn't determine heaven or the Lake of Fire for anybody based on complete bible agreement unity the bible way on any scripture then I will apologize for mentioning these verses:

Eternity is determined by a person's connection with Christ and nothing else. If eternity is based on our understanding of the bible, than what did the beleivers in Acts do?

1Corinthians 8;1-3
1*Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth. 2*And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know. 3*But if any man love God, the same is known of him.

1Corinthians 13
1*Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2*And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3*And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
4*Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5*doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6*rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7*beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8*Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9*For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10*But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11* When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12*For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
13*And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

Knowing and understanding scripture is one thing and obedience is quite another.
 
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To paraphrase what I stated earlier here's the deal. I never got into a thing about perfect people or witty people all the time ever. I simply got into a thing about people intentionally disregarding bible truth as truth to live out to make it. Whatever connection people claim to have with Christ, if they intentionally want to say you can remarry different divorcees that's not a connection to Christ to say your a believer. No connection to Christ if you intentionally go against the book prohibiting certain apparel. No connection to Christ if you intentionally go against the book and say women can be church leaders. No connection to Christ if you intentionally go against the book and say some scripture can be privately interpreted while you make it to heaven too. Even if you have a big biography book on your change in Christ gving up smoking, drugs, wife battering, etc. the book is still the book on any scripture. To disregard any verse because of your radical lifestyle change on a few things is the trick of the devil on an unbeliever.

Hopefully this opens up the real heart of the matter before us.
No verse for verse believers with the book correctly no equal yoke with 2 or more people. Staying with an unequal yoke means your out of the will of God according to Paul (2 Corinthians 6:14-17). Of course intentionally staying out the will of God has eternal consequences (Romans 6:1-2). Grace is only given upon repentance all the time. That's what Paul is saying here. God know we'll never be perfect that's why he told us to ask for forgiveness when we pray. Since we're suppose to always pray and not faint that lives room for repentance and grace needed all the time. This grace not for intentional disregarders of repentance to any bible verse. That's what Paul is saying also. Hopefully this opens up the real heart of the matter even more. Your not ignorant when you know remarrying different divorcees is adultery. Your not ignorant when you know certain apparel is ungodly. Your not ignorant when you know female church leaders is ungodly. Your not ignorant when you know following and supporting these intentionally misleading people will take you to the Lake of Fire (Matthew 15:14) (Galations 1:8-9). Your not ignorant when you know your not suppose to be yoked with them at meetings. (2 Corinthians 6:14-17).



jiggyfly said:
Eternity is determined by a person's connection with Christ and nothing else. If eternity is based on our understanding of the bible, than what did the beleivers in Acts do?
1Corinthians 8;1-3
1*Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth. 2*And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know. 3*But if any man love God, the same is known of him.
1Corinthians 13
1*Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2*And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3*And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
4*Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5*doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6*rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7*beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8*Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9*For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10*But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11* When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12*For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
13*And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
Knowing and understanding scripture is one thing and obedience is quite another.
 
tonytime, I hope that I'm just misunderstanding you. Because the way I'm understanding your post, it sounds like you are a dogmatist. If I am misunderstanding you, please don't become frustrated, but try to communicate in your post more clearly. Thank you
 
for there are so many who call out the name of jesus but how many will truely pick up their cross and fallow after him?
Who will stand and face death for his name sake when the time comes?
who believes in every promise is for all of us and every gift is for all!
now the question I have left is this,
how many believe with their whole heart and can keep their eyes on the unseen and not what is seen?
faith true faith believing in healing, deliverence repentance salvation prosperity in every area !
we can have all that God has promised us and the answer to all the questions I have asked is yes I will pick up my cross and go the full way!
yes I do believe in the power of healing! deliverence! and yes I believe salvation is for all
I keep my eyes on the unseen! for I know those things are eternal!
will I stand before the enemy and hollar Jesus is my lord and chance my life be taken from me? you bet!
for I dont fear for my own life for my life is not my own it belongs to God!

so I hope this answers the question am I a goat or a sheep.
and all I have met here I believe they are genuine and 100% pure in heart!
I believe they will pick up their cross and go the full distance and never look back.
These members here are my family and I love everyone of them. and yes I will stand up for any of them they have been an encouragement an inspiration and chad well I think of him as a mentor and I give all the glory to God for the work he is doing through Chad with this site and all his moderators! they are a good shepherd over this flock. yes we all still make mistakes and sometimes we dont think and act quite Christian Like but praise the Lord for repentance and forgiveness. Tell me what family is never to have disagreements. (on this earth) for not only do we have the mind of Christ but we also battle with flesh each and everyday this is why we must sacrifice our flesh daily.
well God bless and nice meeting you
your sister in Christ forever
 
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If I'm a dogmatist for saying certain apparel is ungodly to take you to the Lake of Fire you have to take up your issue with Jesus, Peter and Paul. If I am for saying women church leaders are you have to take up your issue with them. They wrote the book and instructed this. If I'm a dogmatist for saying it's ungodly to remarry different divorcees you still have to take up your case with these people writing the book and instructing on our lifestyle to make it. Dogmatic is not a doctrine word of Christ to help you make it. 2 Timothy 6:3 2 Timothy 1:13

jiggyfly said:
tonytime, I hope that I'm just misunderstanding you. Because the way I'm understanding your post, it sounds like you are a dogmatist. If I am misunderstanding you, please don't become frustrated, but try to communicate in your post more clearly. Thank you
 
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Again never an issue of perfect people. Of course a sweetheart is appreciated but a phony sweetheart in the name of religion is very dangerous. A unequal yoke is an unequal yoke even if their the biggest celebrity to the world. If a sweetheart intentional says remarrying different divorcees is not adultery to keep you from making it then this obviously is a phony sweetheart or unbeliever. Am I making clear sense enough with the book? Who know an unbeliever is a goat and not a sheep? Does this make you a hater and judger or a person calling a blue color a blue color? Sense an equal yoke is necessary to make it I better know if you acknowledge all bible truth and not how holy you are with imperfections still ?



foreverwjesus said:
for there are so many who call out the name of jesus but how many will truely pick up their cross and fallow after him?
Who will stand and face death for his name sake when the time comes?
who believes in every promise is for all of us and every gift is for all!
now the question I have left is this,
how many believe with their whole heart and can keep their eyes on the unseen and not what is seen?
faith true faith believing in healing, deliverence repentance salvation prosperity in every area !
we can have all that God has promised us and the answer to all the questions I have asked is yes I will pick up my cross and go the full way!
yes I do believe in the power of healing! deliverence! and yes I believe salvation is for all
I keep my eyes on the unseen! for I know those things are eternal!
will I stand before the enemy and hollar Jesus is my lord and chance my life be taken from me? you bet!
for I dont fear for my own life for my life is not my own it belongs to God!
so I hope this answers the question am I a goat or a sheep.
and all I have met here I believe they are genuine and 100% pure in heart!
I believe they will pick up their cross and go the full distance and never look back.
These members here are my family and I love everyone of them. and yes I will stand up for any of them they have been an encouragement an inspiration and chad well I think of him as a mentor and I give all the glory to God for the work he is doing through Chad with this site and all his moderators! they are a good shepherd over this flock. yes we all still make mistakes and sometimes we dont think and act quite Christian Like but praise the Lord for repentance and forgiveness. Tell me what family is never to have disagreements. (on this earth) for not only do we have the mind of Christ but we also battle with flesh each and everyday this is why we must sacrifice our flesh daily.
well God bless and nice meeting you
your sister in Christ forever
 
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You a real sheep into the heart of the matter here or you radical about grammar only? This book breaks grammar rules plenty of times. huh huh huh so what!! Jesus know what he doing. Foolishness of God is wiser than man.
(1 Corinthians 1:25).



jiggyfly said:
tonytime, I'm sorry but your grammar makes it difficult to understand your post. \\
 
tonytime said:
You a real sheep into the heart of the matter here or you radical about grammar only? This book breaks grammar rules plenty of times. huh huh huh so what!! Jesus know what he doing. Foolishness of God is wiser than man.
(1 Corinthians 1:25).
tonytime - No need to be so flippant. Jiggyfly is saying he cannot understand what you are trying to say by your grammar and to be honest neither can I. That's one reason I haven't been answering here.
 
Brother jiggyfly said nothing wrong to you.

Your attitude "tonytime" gets your account closed. Good riddance.

Naive responses in such obvious obnoxiousness and childlike manner is not Christ like is it?

"huh huh huh so what"

Thats pathetic. Be gone
 
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