Why Jesus Is Better Than Santa Claus

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Why Jesus is Better Than Santa Claus


Santa lives at the North Pole...
JESUS is everywhere.

Santa rides in a sleigh...
JESUS rides on the wind and walks on the water.

Santa comes but once a year...
JESUS is an ever present help.

Santa fills your stockings with goodies...
JESUS supplies all your needs.

Santa comes down your chimney uninvited...
JESUS stands at your door and knocks, and then enters your heart when invited.

You have to wait in line to see Santa...
JESUS is as close as the mention of His name.

Santa lets you sit on his lap...
JESUS lets you rest in His arms.

Santa doesn't know your name, all he can say is "Hi little boy or girl, what's your name?"...
JESUS knew our name before we were born. Not only does He know our name, He knows our address too. He knows our history and future and He even knows how many hairs are on our heads.

Santa has a belly like a bowl full of jelly...
JESUS has a heart full of love

All Santa can offer is HO HO HO...
JESUS offers health, help and hope.

Santa says "You better not cry"...
JESUS says "Cast all your cares on me for I care for you."

Santa's little helpers make toys...
JESUS makes new life, mends wounded hearts, repairs broken homes and builds mansions.

Santa may make you chuckle but...
JESUS gives you joy that is your strength.

While Santa puts gifts under your tree...
JESUS became our gift and died on a tree...the cross.We need to put Christ back in CHRISTmas, Jesus is still the reason for the season.

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life" (John 3:16).
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Would you like to know Jesus?
You can have peace and find hope and know forgiveness through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

You can receive Christ right now by faith through prayer. Praying is simply talking to God. God knows your heart and is not so concerned with your words as He is with the attitude of your heart. Here's a suggested prayer:


Lord Jesus, I want to know You personally. Thank You for dying on the cross for my sins. I open the door of my life to You and ask You to come in as my Saviour and Lord. Take control of my life. Thank You for forgiving my sins and giving me eternal life. Bring peace to my world this Christmas. Make me the kind of person You want me to be.

If this prayer expresses the desire of your heart, pray it right now and Christ will come into your life as He promised. If you invited Jesus Christ into your life, thank God often that He is in your life, that He will never leave you and that you have eternal life.

 

[dannibear]

amen. I remember my mother telling me Santa Claus was real, but to me,
its such a cruel joke. I dont think I would tell me kids about santa, I dont see the point. Scaring kids into being good is no way to do it. I remember my sister crying once because she had lied, and thought she wasnt gonna get any gifts. Kinda mean huh? I'd rather teach my kids the love of Christ, and let them know that sharing is something Christians do, instead of saying the gifts come from a guy that never dies. Children would also be more grateful also. I thanked my grandfather over and over for my new laptop, but if it had been from santa, I wouldnt have cared. Appreciation goes a long way.

 

[Zendra]

Scaring kids into being good is no way to do it. I remember my sister crying once because she had lied, and thought she wasnt gonna get any gifts.

I hate to be a drag down but isn't Hell sometimes used to scare kids. Wouldnt it be more scary to be told you are going to suffer forever than just not get a present.

 

[LifeinJesus]

Santa Claus was invented by atheists just like the easter bunny. In ignorance, many have forgotten St Nick - a bishop who gave to the poor on Christmas. It should mainly be about the birth of Christ though but St Nick should get some remembrance for surely he did good in the eyes of Christ? Most atheists believe Jesus does not exist, few believe he did exist but just as a religious teacher. Regardless, they could have honoured St Nick who gave to the poor. This would teach their children to be humble, instead, they make their children greedy and buy gifts for them on that day, as a result, they only punch themselves in the face since they lose all their money buying gifts instead of teaching the true meaning of CHRISTmas. It just goes to show, atheists are barren and evil like Job said. If they can't even praise a religious person for their good deeds, then they hate good. Regardless, hating Christ is also hating good and peace and thus they are guilty of many crimes.

 

[LifeinJesus]

To The Person who Deleted Their Comment:

Wrong, most atheists believe Jesus didn't exist. A quick Google search with key words calling Christ fake will show the majority of atheists don't believe in Christ.

 

[INRI]

Santa Claus was invented by atheists just like the easter bunny.

Please, tell me where you're getting this information.

In ignorance, many have forgotten St Nick - a bishop who gave to the poor on Christmas. It should mainly be about the birth of Christ though but St Nick should get some remembrance for surely he did good in the eyes of Christ?

As has been demonstrated over the centuries, Christmas has absolutely nothing to do with Christ's birth. Multiple pagan holidays focusing almost entirely on astrology and the celestial calendar were hijacked by Christers in the early centuries of the church as a means to reach religious "compromise" with their conquered foes. The Roman holiday Saturnalia, the virgin birth of the godking Mithras, Yule, etc. are all based around the winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere. The fact of the matter is, IF Jesus was ever born, nobody knows when it was.

Most atheists believe Jesus does not exist, few believe he did exist but just as a religious teacher.

I am one does not yet believe that Jesus existed, having been presented no credible evidence of his existence.

Regardless, they could have honoured St Nick who gave to the poor. This would teach their children to be humble

"St." Nick was most certainly not the first person to give to the poor. What exactly makes him more worthy of honor than any of the other good people out there?

Instead, they make their children greedy and buy gifts for them on that day, as a result, they only punch themselves in the face since they lose all their money buying gifts instead of teaching the true meaning of CHRISTmas.

First, "Make their children greedy?" How can you make someone greedy?

Second, "Lose all their money?" If this happens, it is certainly their own decision, and should make precious little difference to you.

Third, what, pray-tell is the "true meaning of Xmas?"

It just goes to show, atheists are barren and evil like Job said. If they can't even praise a religious person for their good deeds, then they hate good. Regardless, hating Christ is also hating good and peace and thus they are guilty of many crimes.

I have no way of knowing how many atheists you've met. I don't think I'm really following your logic to the same conclusion. "It just goes to show, atheists are barren and evil..." How does this go to show this conclusion? You said at first that atheists invented Santa Claus...who was actually St. Nick...a man canonized by the Church...meaning he wasn't invented by atheists.

You want atheists to praise a religious person for his good deeds? Why? People do good deeds all the time without need for praise and without religion telling them they ought.

I most certainly do not hate good. And I most certainly do not hate Christ. It's impossible to hate something that I have no reason to believe exists in the first place. And lastly, I do not hate peace, and am guilty of nothing.

 

[LifeinJesus]

As has been demonstrated over the centuries, Christmas has absolutely nothing to do with Christ's birth. Multiple pagan holidays focusing almost entirely on astrology and the celestial calendar were hijacked by Christers in the early centuries of the church as a means to reach religious "compromise" with their conquered foes. The Roman holiday Saturnalia, the virgin birth of the godking Mithras, Yule, etc. are all based around the winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere. The fact of the matter is, IF Jesus was ever born, nobody knows when it was.

Christmas is called CHRISTmas because it's the day we celebrate Christ's birth. None know for sure when he was born. Some say January, some say September and others say December, even if it was labelled December to stop Pagan festivals and convert them, it's still the day we celebrate Christ's birth, no one practices the pagan worship stuff anymore, so your argument gets thrown into the bin automatically.

I am one does not yet believe that Jesus existed, having been presented no credible evidence of his existence.

Eye witness accounts, historic records from Romans and a Buddhist monastery - all say Jesus (A Holy man as the Buddhist record put him) existed and was the leader of the Christians. Another name they called him by was "Christus" - Christ.

"St." Nick was most certainly not the first person to give to the poor. What exactly makes him more worthy of honor than any of the other good people out there?

I never said he was. Where are you getting these lies from? I said he was the person who gave to the poor on Christmas. Santa was made from him and thus in atheist's hate - they make people forget a good man who even they know existed.

First, "Make their children greedy?" How can you make someone greedy?

Second, "Lose all their money?" If this happens, it is certainly their own decision, and should make precious little difference to you.

Third, what, pray-tell is the "true meaning of Xmas?"

First: You can make them greedy by giving them what they want.

Second: No, not really since families are forced into buying presents for their loved ones since its become a culture that must be done. Believe me, I don't celebrate Christmas with presents and falling outs with people have occurred because of that.

Third: You know the true meaning and Xmas = Christmas.

"The "X" comes from the Greek letter Chi, which is the first letter of the Greek word Χριστός, translated as "Christ".

So by calling Christmas, Xmas, you still acknowledge it is about Christ.

I have no way of knowing how many atheists you've met. I don't think I'm really following your logic to the same conclusion. "It just goes to show, atheists are barren and evil..." How does this go to show this conclusion? You said at first that atheists invented Santa Claus...who was actually St. Nick...a man canonized by the Church...meaning he wasn't invented by atheists.

No. Atheists made St. Nick into Santa. Ask children and many wouldn't know who St. Nick was and those that would respond would say he was Santa - not the bishop. Your logic fails again and all your arguments are truly weak.

You want atheists to praise a religious person for his good deeds? Why? People do good deeds all the time without need for praise and without religion telling them they ought.

I most certainly do not hate good. And I most certainly do not hate Christ. It's impossible to hate something that I have no reason to believe exists in the first place. And lastly, I do not hate peace, and am guilty of nothing.

No. I want everyone to praise ANYONE based on their good deeds. You atheists are eliminating people who have done good by associating them with fairy tales such as Santa. Well, you're only eliminating them from your own children's minds. In other countries, parades are done about St. Nick - at least they still acknowledge who came first and that wasn't Santa.

 

[Chad]

I am one does not yet believe that Jesus existed, having been presented no credible evidence of his existence.

No evidence provided or you just simply rejected the evidence?

Here, 'seek and find' in intellectual honesty about these evidences:

Bible Questions Answered
CARM - Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry
Answers in Genesis - Creation, Evolution, Christian Apologetics

and of course:
Evidence & Bible Prophecy - Talk Jesus | Christian Forums

 

[LifeinJesus]

The best part is how he doesn't believe in Jesus but has the username of INRI which means "JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS". Atheists...bah! Seriously, they think they're intelligent but none of them are. All the greatest scientists are Christians:

Issac Newton,
Leonardo Da Vinci,
Galileo Galilei, (I couldn't care if atheists say the Church persecuted him, The Templars were persecuted by the Church but they still believed in God and Jesus and thus atheist logic fails again.)
Johannes Kepler

- All regarded as the greatest minds in history.

Albert Einstein believed in his own "personal god".

Not one of the "fathers of modern science" are atheists.

 

[INRI]

No evidence provided or you just simply rejected the evidence?

Here, 'seek and find' in intellectual honesty about these evidences:

Bible Questions Answered
CARM - Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry
Answers in Genesis - Creation, Evolution, Christian Apologetics

and of course:
Evidence & Bible Prophecy - Talk Jesus | Christian Forums

Thank you for this wealth of information, Chad. I'll gladly be looking into all of it over the coming days to see if I can glean anything convincing me (even a mustard seed's amount of convincing would be great!) of the existence of a god, of one god, and then of the God of the Bible. I'm really looking forward to learning everything I can.

I wonder though, were any of these resources you've pointed me toward the thing that convinced you that God exists, or was there something else that convinced you?

 

[INRI]

Christmas is called CHRISTmas because it's the day we celebrate Christ's birth. None know for sure when he was born. Some say January, some say September and others say December, even if it was labelled December to stop Pagan festivals and convert them, it's still the day we celebrate Christ's birth, no one practices the pagan worship stuff anymore, so your argument gets thrown into the bin automatically.

Some say March, some say April, some say never. What's your point? Celebrating someone's birth on an arbitrarily picked day does not make that day significant. And I can guarantee that Jesus absolutely does not care if or when you celebrate his birth. It doesn't matter to him, I can't imagine why it should matter to you.

Also..."no one practices the pagan worship stuff anymore, so your argument gets thrown into the bin automatically."...? False, false, false. I hope you were just saying this to be funny, because I'm sure you already realize that lying to me and then saying that your lie proves my argument wrong is the epitome of living in denial and intellectual dishonesty. We're just getting started. No need to start off on the wrong foot by taking me for an imbicile.

Eye witness accounts, historic records from Romans and a Buddhist monastery - all say Jesus (A Holy man as the Buddhist record put him) existed and was the leader of the Christians. Another name they called him by was "Christus" - Christ.

If you're willing to direct me toward the eye witness accounts and historic texts, I would be more than happy to read them, and thank you in kind as I have already done Chad.

I never said he was. Where are you getting these lies from? I said he was the person who gave to the poor on Christmas. Santa was made from him and thus in atheist's hate - they make people forget a good man who even they know existed.

I can say in confidence that I got "these lies from" you...

Santa Claus was invented by atheists just like the easter bunny. In ignorance, many have forgotten St Nick - a bishop who gave to the poor on Christmas. It should mainly be about the birth of Christ though but St Nick should get some remembrance for surely he did good in the eyes of Christ?

Whether a man does anything that is good in the eyes of Christ does not make him worthy of recognition. If Christ is real, as you assert, then surely only He is worthy of recognition. Not us. Not humans. Nobody who does what they ought should be remembered for doing what he was CREATED TO DO. This would be like knives (humans) remembering another knife (St. Nick) for his ability to slice vegetables. If that St. Nick had done something truly meaningful that he wasn't supposed to do, perhaps that would have been worthy of remembering. You can't eat soup with a knife.

This is all beside the point, though. I've asked you once already where you got this information. How did you learn that Santa Claus...or St. Nick...or St. Nicholas was invented by atheists, just like the Easter bunny? Now, I will ask you a second time, how do you know that Santa was invented via atheist hate? Please, I would love to learn what you have learned.

First: You can make them greedy by giving them what they want.

Second: No, not really since families are forced into buying presents for their loved ones since its become a culture that must be done. Believe me, I don't celebrate Christmas with presents and falling outs with people have occurred because of that.

Third: You know the true meaning and Xmas = Christmas.

"The "X" comes from the Greek letter Chi, which is the first letter of the Greek word Χριστός, translated as "Christ".

So by calling Christmas, Xmas, you still acknowledge it is about Christ.

First: "If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will you give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will you for a fish give him a serpent?" Luke 11:11. Are you one of those rare and abominable fathers who would?! I sure hope not, for your childrens' sake. People can't make other people greedy, brother. Leastwise by giving them the things they request...even Jesus knew that. I'm surprised you don't. I defy you to find a person who blames someone else for his own greed. Ball's in your court here.

Second: My sincerest condolences for any fallings-out you've had with your own family for your poor decisions, but I assure you, the average human being, adult and child alike, will purchase or craft gifts within their own means. If they choose to do so outside of those means, it is their decision to make. Again, i am not sure how other peoples' gifting decisions make any difference to you. Culture doesn't force one to do anything they are not already willing to do. I defy you to find a culture that coerces gift giving beyond one's means while denying the giver the choice to do or not do so. The ball is again in your court.

Third: I do not know the true meaning of Christmas=Xmas...which is why I humbled myself and asked you. Use of the abbreviation "Xmas" in no way aknowledges the existence of your Christ, as x or chi is the first character in thousands of words. Don't fool yourself by putting words in my mouth and then thinking you've proved your point. If you're looking for an educated discussion, you would do well to make sure you're educated first. This is not an insult, only a word of advice.

Saying X means Christ falls flat on it's face considering all of the illiterate immigrants who came to the USA and signed their name with an X on Ellis Island as well as the emancipated slaves who did likewise almost a century and a half ago. I guarantee that there weren't that many "Christs" on the incoming boats just as surely as I guarantee that X is about as interchangeable with Christ as the Greek word for chaos (χάος). Please, think things out before you respond to me in the future.

No. Atheists made St. Nick into Santa. Ask children and many wouldn't know who St. Nick was and those that would respond would say he was Santa - not the bishop. Your logic fails again and all your arguments are truly weak.

All jabs at my logic aside, I could ask you a third time for verification that atheists are responsible for the crafting of this myth, but there's no sense in beating a dead horse.

No. I want everyone to praise ANYONE based on their good deeds. You atheists are eliminating people who have done good by associating them with fairy tales such as Santa. Well, you're only eliminating them from your own children's minds. In other countries, parades are done about St. Nick - at least they still acknowledge who came first and that wasn't Santa.

Thanks for clearing this up...because your incredulity with some people being unwilling to praise St. Nick in the following statement really threw me off...

It just goes to show, atheists are barren and evil like Job said. If they can't even praise a religious person for their good deeds, then they hate good.

I still don't understand how your conclusion logically follows any of the unverified claims you made prior to it. I'll ask you a second time to please clarify. And I still don't understand how atheists not praising someone for their good deeds would disappoint you, and yet in the next breath you say you do (or don't, I can't tell) want us to praise anyone for their good deeds. But as long as I've got you saying one thing (and then saying you mean another) to look forward to, this should at least be an entertaining discussion.

 

[SpiritLedEd]

I am one does not yet believe that Jesus existed, having been presented no credible evidence of his existence.

Have you considered reading the works of Christian apologists such as Josh McDowell? Also, there are several videos from McDowell to be viewed for free on YouTube.

SLE

 

[INRI]

Have you considered reading the works of Christian apologists such as Josh McDowell? Also, there are several videos from McDowell to be viewed for free on YouTube.

SLE

Hey Ed,

Thanks for the recommendation. I have read several apologists (D'Souza, Dembski, Lewis, Geisler, Strobel, Mohler, and others), although, I've only heard of Josh McDowell. I haven't read or heard anything of his yet. I'll be glad to look into his work. Did he convince you? I only ask, because I've seen you often suggesting this author to other people. It leads me to believe that Mr. McDowell lead you from unbelief.

Curious,
INRI

 

[LifeinJesus]

Some say March, some say April, some say never. What's your point? Celebrating someone's birth on an arbitrarily picked day does not make that day significant. And I can guarantee that Jesus absolutely does not care if or when you celebrate his birth. It doesn't matter to him, I can't imagine why it should matter to you.

It doesn't matter to Jesus? Have you MET Jesus? Have you SPOKEN to Jesus? Celebrating Christ's birthday on a randomly picked or disputed day does make that day significant.

Also..."no one practices the pagan worship stuff anymore, so your argument gets thrown into the bin automatically."...? False, false, false. I hope you were just saying this to be funny, because I'm sure you already realize that lying to me and then saying that your lie proves my argument wrong is the epitome of living in denial and intellectual dishonesty. We're just getting started. No need to start off on the wrong foot by taking me for an imbicile.

You are an imbicile. At least in theology and science. You say I lie but fail to prove how.

If you're willing to direct me toward the eye witness accounts and historic texts, I would be more than happy to read them, and thank you in kind as I have already done Chad.

Google them please. You'll learn more from finding these sites yourself.

"Eyewitness accounts."
"Jesus historic records."
"Jesus in the Himalayas (Buddhist records)"

I can say in confidence that I got "these lies from" you...

You got your own lies from yourself.

Whether a man does anything that is good in the eyes of Christ does not make him worthy of recognition. If Christ is real, as you assert, then surely only He is worthy of recognition. Not us. Not humans. Nobody who does what they ought should be remembered for doing what he was CREATED TO DO. This would be like knives (humans) remembering another knife (St. Nick) for his ability to slice vegetables. If that St. Nick had done something truly meaningful that he wasn't supposed to do, perhaps that would have been worthy of remembering. You can't eat soup with a knife.

Actually, this is very wrong. Christ was the son of God and thus half divine. If a man can live like Christ, then he will be favoured by God and should be favoured by humans as well. Your logic is what everyone follows, which is why many people continue doing bad. People praise people for bad deeds over here in the UK - especially among teenagers.

This is all beside the point, though. I've asked you once already where you got this information. How did you learn that Santa Claus...or St. Nick...or St. Nicholas was invented by atheists, just like the Easter bunny? Now, I will ask you a second time, how do you know that Santa was invented via atheist hate? Please, I would love to learn what you have learned.

Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny were invented by atheists to eliminate the religious holidays but if you want to believe a Christian placed these fictional characters on the same day as their MESSIAH, go ahead and believe that.

First: "If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will you give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will you for a fish give him a serpent?" Luke 11:11. Are you one of those rare and abominable fathers who would?! I sure hope not, for your childrens' sake. People can't make other people greedy, brother. Leastwise by giving them the things they request...even Jesus knew that. I'm surprised you don't. I defy you to find a person who blames someone else for his own greed. Ball's in your court here.

Jesus actually said the poor will inherit the kingdom of heaven and the rich shall not. The poor are humble and have hardly any food, Jesus himself fasted for 40 days and nights and smiled upon poor people. So you don't know what you're talking about. I'm not Catholic but I agree that greed (gluttony) is a sin. When Jesus fed people, he gave them pieces of bread, not entire barrels of bread along with the words "Eat them! Stuff them down your throats."

Second: My sincerest condolences for any fallings-out you've had with your own family for your poor decisions, but I assure you, the average human being, adult and child alike, will purchase or craft gifts within their own means. If they choose to do so outside of those means, it is their decision to make. Again, i am not sure how other peoples' gifting decisions make any difference to you. Culture doesn't force one to do anything they are not already willing to do. I defy you to find a culture that coerces gift giving beyond one's means while denying the giver the choice to do or not do so. The ball is again in your court.

Poor decisions? Ha ha ha. Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. I'm very poor at the moment, I can't afford to buy gifts for people. They get a blessing and a prayer, if they don't like it, then it's because they've been made greedy as I originally stated.

Third: I do not know the true meaning of Christmas=Xmas...which is why I humbled myself and asked you. Use of the abbreviation "Xmas" in no way aknowledges the existence of your Christ, as x or chi is the first character in thousands of words. Don't fool yourself by putting words in my mouth and then thinking you've proved your point. If you're looking for an educated discussion, you would do well to make sure you're educated first. This is not an insult, only a word of advice.

Actually, Google Xmas to see that you STILL acknowledge Xmas is about Christ. TRY HARDER.

Saying X means Christ falls flat on it's face considering all of the illiterate immigrants who came to the USA and signed their name with an X on Ellis Island as well as the emancipated slaves who did likewise almost a century and a half ago. I guarantee that there weren't that many "Christs" on the incoming boats just as surely as I guarantee that X is about as interchangeable with Christ as the Greek word for chaos (χάος). Please, think things out before you respond to me in the future.

Saying X means Christ does not fall flat on its face since both are GREEK. It seems you need education in theology, science and Greek. Sorry.

I'll ask you a second time to please clarify. And I still don't understand how atheists not praising someone for their good deeds would disappoint you, and yet in the next breath you say you do (or don't, I can't tell) want us to praise anyone for their good deeds. But as long as I've got you saying one thing (and then saying you mean another) to look forward to, this should at least be an entertaining discussion.

You can't understand what I say because you read through my text quickly in ignorance and anger. I said, ALL people of ALL religions (atheism included) should praise someone because of their good deeds. If you disagree, then that's your own opinion. In the end, you're the one who'll be judged for it. If you truly seek Christ and God, then you'll also need to change your ways.

 

[azuredepths]

Yes, it's a pitty that Christmas was stolen away by a fat elf called "santa".

Jesus Christ was 100% GOD and 100% man.

It was fully human because man had to pay the price for sin and it was fully God because only the death of the Son of God could satisfy divine justice.
If 10.000 angels would have died for us they could'nt satisfy the wrath of God because angels were created by God, they dont have life in themselves, only God has life in itself.

 

[SpiritLedEd]

I'll be glad to look into his work. Did he convince you? I only ask, because I've seen you often suggesting this author to other people. It leads me to believe that Mr. McDowell lead you from unbelief.

I've been a churchgoer all my life and had what you might call a superficial awareness of Christ over most of that time. In 1983, I was a long time practicing alcoholic (unable to stop on my own). Through a series of events that I won't describe here because I hate long posts, I had a powerful spiritual encounter with God that took away my lust for alcohol and replaced it with a lust for the Bible.

I am not a scholar; I'm not qualified to debate on that level.. I'm just your every day Bible study guy. McDowell was suggested to me years ago and I read his original "Evidence that Demands a Verdict" (now revised and updated). He has helped me develop as a Christian.

Not being the scholarly type, I tend to shy away from topics like apologetics for fear of getting lost in a maelstrom of words that might overwhelm me. My experience with Josh Mcdowell, however, is that he is what I would call a non-academic academic. His talks are enjoyable as well as informative, but never formal. He is very readable and humble, as well as very personable, not the slightest bit stuffy. My kind of guy.

SLE