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A common question and it is for me a hard one... Here are a few things that might help...
Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
While we right now can not understand why things happen we need to know that one day we will... God is a man of His word and He has told us things will happen till Jesus comes back for us... Most dont like to hear it but sin is what keeps the bad things going...
And until all the sin is gone... there are going to be problems....
This is a quick response for me I will try and get more scripture reference to help
Joyfully ~ Jlu
A common question and it is for me a hard one... Here are a few things that might help...
Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
While we right now can not understand why things happen we need to know that one day we will... God is a man of His word and He has told us things will happen till Jesus comes back for us... Most dont like to hear it but sin is what keeps the bad things going...
And until all the sin is gone... there are going to be problems....
This is a quick response for me I will try and get more scripture reference to help
Joyfully ~ Jlu
bad stuff keeps happening as a result of sin. sin keeps happening as a result of man's sin nature and his choice to continue to sin. man's sin nature came form the fact that our first parents(adam and eve) choose to sin against God. God gave all men, since he is soo good, free will. Man werent made to be puppets for God because he is so good.
Just like a blessing can pass down through generagions....curses can pass down through generations.(i will give you scriptures concerning generation curses soon).
why God couldnt just send the devil in the lake of fire the second he rebelled...well i will get back to you on that..
there are reasons. and i think it has something to do with him being just...but i will get back to you. with scriptures
In class at school right now
sade
Just like a blessing can pass down through generagions....curses can pass down through generations.(i will give you scriptures concerning generation curses soon).
why God couldnt just send the devil in the lake of fire the second he rebelled...well i will get back to you on that..
there are reasons. and i think it has something to do with him being just...but i will get back to you. with scriptures In class at school right now
sade
Brothers and Sisters
God is still patiently waiting for some to repent because he is GOOD, the Devil has all ready been defeated and is powerless unless we let him in by choosing to be Evil as well and some still do and some are still struggling and some are repenting.
If God had destroyed all Evil back when Jesus was on the cross dying for us to be saved, how many would have been lost if Evil was totally removed from the earth back than. I know I would have lost my chance, how about you?
This answer is throughout the scriptures, so just to quote a few wouldn't cover his great plan.
So how many Brothers and Sisters are enough?
We need not question God's Way, when our ways are the ones that should be questioned.
You might ask your friend what he or she has done to rid this world of the Devil and Evil, since Jesus has given us the power to do all things through him. For it is written:
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Phil. 4:13
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. Jn.15:7
And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. Matt.17:20
God is still patiently waiting for some to repent because he is GOOD, the Devil has all ready been defeated and is powerless unless we let him in by choosing to be Evil as well and some still do and some are still struggling and some are repenting.
If God had destroyed all Evil back when Jesus was on the cross dying for us to be saved, how many would have been lost if Evil was totally removed from the earth back than. I know I would have lost my chance, how about you?
This answer is throughout the scriptures, so just to quote a few wouldn't cover his great plan.
So how many Brothers and Sisters are enough?
We need not question God's Way, when our ways are the ones that should be questioned.
You might ask your friend what he or she has done to rid this world of the Devil and Evil, since Jesus has given us the power to do all things through him. For it is written:
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Phil. 4:13
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. Jn.15:7
And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. Matt.17:20
Tim said:
Original Sin!
Hi Tim,
Difficult one for me to expound because it was all sorted out in 1562!
It is called Original Sin or Birth-sin!
A Précis,
Original Sin................ is the fault and corruption of the Nature of every man, [man/woman], that is ingendered of the offspring of Adam;
1. Far gone from original righteousness,
2. Of his/her own nature inclined to evil,
3. So the flesh lusteth always contrary to the spirit;
[You don't really want to know what the Church fathers thought about you and I!]
And although there is no condemnation for them that believe and are baptized,
Yet the Apostle doth confess, that concupiscence and lust hath of itself the nature of sin.
[Article of Religion No.9. Church of England 1562 ].
Now I'm sure Tim you don't want to "CONCUPISCENCE" your friend so let me see if I can reconstruct where they got it from.
Faulty men/women? Children of Adam with a little help from Eve!
The fall of Adam, Genesis3:1- 24.
11. He(God) said,
Who told you that you were naked?"......................................................
12. The man said, "The woman you put here with me -........................
Nothing changes does it, He blamed her as usual!!!
Disobeyed God! He did not do what God told him to do,
1. Disobedience in Adams free-will to God's Word caused the Original Sin!
2. Therefore Free-will by association is now seen as the cause of Original Sin! But disobedience is the real cause of this sin!
3. Free-will with Obedience to the Word of God, Jesus: Is the original state before Adam's disobedience.
Therefore, Free-will in a Christian's Salvation has taken the Christian back into the sinless condition before Adams disobedience. (What your Friends IQ. like Tim, I'm struggling and I wrote it!).
Romans 6:10-12. The death He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, He lives to God. 11. In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.
In a nut shell if there is such a thing in this,
1. Disobeying the Word of God caused the Human- race to be casted out of God's Holy Presence! Nature was given free range over itself and Earth with all it's systems were allowed free reign to behave naturally!
2. Today we wait for the return of God's control over the universe, The Rapture perhaps? Then we will be taken into a controlled environment in God's Presence which is Heaven perhaps? (Still to early to look at storms and earthquake in these days to be a herald of the coming Rapture, perhaps?).
3. All those who hear and accept Jesus as their Saviour will Be taken to His Presence in that Heavenly Place! Because they have beaten the rap!!! They have been pardoned by the Sacrifice of Jesus, And the Obedience to God's Free-will through our blessed Saviour Jesus Christ. He reached down His hand and lifted me/you up when we freely accept the gift of Salvation! By our Belief He lifted you and I up, Alleluia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What Scripture have we got,
1. Genesis 3:1-24.
2. Romans 6: 10-12.
3. John 3: 15- 21.
The Gift of Salvation and the Continuing disbelief in freewill of the unbeliever is the cause of this mayhem we live in today. [ Jesus, John 3:15 to 21.].
"Come now, let us reason together," says the Lord.
"Though your sins are like scarlet,
they shall be as white as snow;
though they are as crimson,
they shall be like wool."
[The Lord Yahveh, Isaiah.1:18, NIV, Praise the Lord!]
Yours in His Most Holy Name,
Colin.
Hi Tim,
Difficult one for me to expound because it was all sorted out in 1562!
It is called Original Sin or Birth-sin!
A Précis,
Original Sin................ is the fault and corruption of the Nature of every man, [man/woman], that is ingendered of the offspring of Adam;
1. Far gone from original righteousness,
2. Of his/her own nature inclined to evil,
3. So the flesh lusteth always contrary to the spirit;
[You don't really want to know what the Church fathers thought about you and I!]
And although there is no condemnation for them that believe and are baptized,
Yet the Apostle doth confess, that concupiscence and lust hath of itself the nature of sin.
[Article of Religion No.9. Church of England 1562 ].
Now I'm sure Tim you don't want to "CONCUPISCENCE" your friend so let me see if I can reconstruct where they got it from.
Faulty men/women? Children of Adam with a little help from Eve!
The fall of Adam, Genesis3:1- 24.
11. He(God) said,
Who told you that you were naked?"......................................................
12. The man said, "The woman you put here with me -........................
Nothing changes does it, He blamed her as usual!!!
Disobeyed God! He did not do what God told him to do,
1. Disobedience in Adams free-will to God's Word caused the Original Sin!
2. Therefore Free-will by association is now seen as the cause of Original Sin! But disobedience is the real cause of this sin!
3. Free-will with Obedience to the Word of God, Jesus: Is the original state before Adam's disobedience.
Therefore, Free-will in a Christian's Salvation has taken the Christian back into the sinless condition before Adams disobedience. (What your Friends IQ. like Tim, I'm struggling and I wrote it!).
Romans 6:10-12. The death He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, He lives to God. 11. In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.
In a nut shell if there is such a thing in this,
1. Disobeying the Word of God caused the Human- race to be casted out of God's Holy Presence! Nature was given free range over itself and Earth with all it's systems were allowed free reign to behave naturally!
2. Today we wait for the return of God's control over the universe, The Rapture perhaps? Then we will be taken into a controlled environment in God's Presence which is Heaven perhaps? (Still to early to look at storms and earthquake in these days to be a herald of the coming Rapture, perhaps?).
3. All those who hear and accept Jesus as their Saviour will Be taken to His Presence in that Heavenly Place! Because they have beaten the rap!!! They have been pardoned by the Sacrifice of Jesus, And the Obedience to God's Free-will through our blessed Saviour Jesus Christ. He reached down His hand and lifted me/you up when we freely accept the gift of Salvation! By our Belief He lifted you and I up, Alleluia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What Scripture have we got,
1. Genesis 3:1-24.
2. Romans 6: 10-12.
3. John 3: 15- 21.
The Gift of Salvation and the Continuing disbelief in freewill of the unbeliever is the cause of this mayhem we live in today. [ Jesus, John 3:15 to 21.].
"Come now, let us reason together," says the Lord.
"Though your sins are like scarlet,
they shall be as white as snow;
though they are as crimson,
they shall be like wool."
[The Lord Yahveh, Isaiah.1:18, NIV, Praise the Lord!]
Yours in His Most Holy Name,
Colin.
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