Women who want to be holy, don’t marry men who choose bad women

[Godbehonored]

In response to the unholy attitude from some “Christian” men who won’t take responsibility for their own bad choices but promote hate mongering against all women, I have the following advice for women out there who do want to be holy and good wives:

Don’t marry any man who has a pattern of choosing bad women as partners.

Reasons are as follows:

1) The only reason these men will actively choose bad women again and again is because they are PLEASURE SEEKERS. What did apostle Paul say about pleasure seekers?

2 Timothy 3 KJV
2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

Bad women are VERY GOOD at providing pleasure to men, so men who seek after them on a continuous basis are in fact lovers of pleasure, which Paul advised to TURN AWAY from. If we are to turn away from them, we certainly shouldn’t marry them.

If a man is a pleasure seeker on a consistent basis, he will have a hard time remaining loyal to a marriage because there are ALWAYS bad women out there ready to seduce him with pleasures. So you are possibly even facing adultery by marrying such a man.

2) Men who have a pattern of choosing bad women are most likely not willing to take responsibilities for their own bad choices. So they will lash out at innocent women for being hurt by bad women. If you marry them, you are only subjecting yourselves to getting hurt for doing nothing wrong.

3) Men who have a pattern of choosing bad women may not be willing to recognise that they are part of the problem. If you marry them, they will most definitely blame you for everything that goes wrong in your marriage, even if you aren’t the one at fault.

4) Your love for God should surpass all. Don’t let yourselves get bitter by marrying a man who can’t be a good husband and let resentment build in your heart. If you don’t have a godly man in your life, it is better to remain single and devoted to God.

If you do happen to want to marry a man who had a pattern of choosing bad women, MAKE SURE this man actually acknowledges his own responsibilities in his bad choices. MAKE SURE he has worked out his issues and am proactive in improving himself as a person. If all he does is badmouth the women he was with and never reflects on his own shortcomings and sins, RUN FOR THE HILLS.

Ps. I won’t be responding to any hatemongers out there so don’t bother wasting your time on false accusations, personal attacks and whatnots. Lol

 

[PloughBoy]

In response to the unholy attitude from some “Christian” men who won’t take responsibility for their own bad choices but promote hate mongering against all women, I have the following advice for women out there who do want to be holy and good wives:

Don’t marry any man who has a pattern of choosing bad women as partners.

Reasons are as follows:

1) The only reason these men will actively choose bad women again and again is because they are PLEASURE SEEKERS. What did apostle Paul say about pleasure seekers?

2 Timothy 3 KJV
2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

Bad women are VERY GOOD at providing pleasure to men, so men who seek after them on a continuous basis are in fact lovers of pleasure, which Paul advised to TURN AWAY from. If we are to turn away from them, we certainly shouldn’t marry them.

If a man is a pleasure seeker on a consistent basis, he will have a hard time remaining loyal to a marriage because there are ALWAYS bad women out there ready to seduce him with pleasures. So you are possibly even facing adultery by marrying such a man.

2) Men who have a pattern of choosing bad women are most likely not willing to take responsibilities for their own bad choices. So they will lash out at innocent women for being hurt by bad women. If you marry them, you are only subjecting yourselves to getting hurt for doing nothing wrong.

3) Men who have a pattern of choosing bad women may not be willing to recognise that they are part of the problem. If you marry them, they will most definitely blame you for everything that goes wrong in your marriage, even if you aren’t the one at fault.

4) Your love for God should surpass all. Don’t let yourselves get bitter by marrying a man who can’t be a good husband and let resentment build in your heart. If you don’t have a godly man in your life, it is better to remain single and devoted to God.

If you do happen to want to marry a man who had a pattern of choosing bad women, MAKE SURE this man actually acknowledges his own responsibilities in his bad choices. MAKE SURE he has worked out his issues and am proactive in improving himself as a person. If all he does is badmouth the women he was with and never reflects on his own shortcomings and sins, RUN FOR THE HILLS.

Ps. I won’t be responding to any hatemongers out there so don’t bother wasting your time on false accusations, personal attacks and whatnots. Lol

If you have to make a choice to marry him or not. It seems he has already has chosen you! To close, to late now.

You have gotten to close, if you know his pattern



PS. My wife told me one time; a woman got to be a fool to let you put your hands on her!
I was young then

Proverbs 30
18There are three thingswhich are too wonderful for me,

Four which I do not understand:

19The way of the eagle in the sky,

The way of a snake on a rock,

The way of a ship in the middle of the sea,

And the way of a man with a [k]virgin.

 

[PloughBoy]

In response to the unholy attitude from some “Christian” men who won’t take responsibility for their own bad choices but promote hate mongering against all women, I have the following advice for women out there who do want to be holy and good wives:

Don’t marry any man who has a pattern of choosing bad women as partners.

Reasons are as follows:

1) The only reason these men will actively choose bad women again and again is because they are PLEASURE SEEKERS. What did apostle Paul say about pleasure seekers?

2 Timothy 3 KJV
2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

Bad women are VERY GOOD at providing pleasure to men, so men who seek after them on a continuous basis are in fact lovers of pleasure, which Paul advised to TURN AWAY from. If we are to turn away from them, we certainly shouldn’t marry them.

If a man is a pleasure seeker on a consistent basis, he will have a hard time remaining loyal to a marriage because there are ALWAYS bad women out there ready to seduce him with pleasures. So you are possibly even facing adultery by marrying such a man.

2) Men who have a pattern of choosing bad women are most likely not willing to take responsibilities for their own bad choices. So they will lash out at innocent women for being hurt by bad women. If you marry them, you are only subjecting yourselves to getting hurt for doing nothing wrong.

3) Men who have a pattern of choosing bad women may not be willing to recognise that they are part of the problem. If you marry them, they will most definitely blame you for everything that goes wrong in your marriage, even if you aren’t the one at fault.

4) Your love for God should surpass all. Don’t let yourselves get bitter by marrying a man who can’t be a good husband and let resentment build in your heart. If you don’t have a godly man in your life, it is better to remain single and devoted to God.

If you do happen to want to marry a man who had a pattern of choosing bad women, MAKE SURE this man actually acknowledges his own responsibilities in his bad choices. MAKE SURE he has worked out his issues and am proactive in improving himself as a person. If all he does is badmouth the women he was with and never reflects on his own shortcomings and sins, RUN FOR THE HILLS.

Ps. I won’t be responding to any hatemongers out there so don’t bother wasting your time on false accusations, personal attacks and whatnots. Lol

Now stop and get rid of That bitterness. Let it not become you. It will only make you sick.

Now how are you to treat those who have mis treated you?

Luke 6 NASB
But I say to you who hear, loveyour enemies, do good to thosewho hate you, 28bless those who curse you, pray for those who areabusive to you. 29Whoever hitsyou on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takesaway your [r]cloak, do not withholdyour https://biblehub.com/nasb_/luke/6.htm#fntunic from him either.30Give to everyone who asks of you, and whoever takes awaywhat is yours, do not demand itback. 31[t]Treat people the sameway you want them to https://biblehub.com/nasb_/luke/6.htm#fntreat you.32If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who lovethem. 33And if you do good to those who do good to you, whatcredit is that to you? For evensinners do the same. 34And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners in order to receive backthe same amount. 35But love your enemies and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungratefuland evil people. 36[v]Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.

Enough is enough.

How old are you, may I ask?

 

[Godbehonored]

Now stop and get rid of That bitterness. Let it not become you. It will only make you sick.

Now how are you to treat those who have mis treated you?

Luke 6 NASB
But I say to you who hear, loveyour enemies, do good to thosewho hate you, 28bless those who curse you, pray for those who areabusive to you. 29Whoever hitsyou on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takesaway your [r]cloak, do not withholdyour Luke 6 New American Standard Bibletunic from him either.30Give to everyone who asks of you, and whoever takes awaywhat is yours, do not demand itback. 31[t]Treat people the sameway you want them to Luke 6 New American Standard Bibletreat you.32If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who lovethem. 33And if you do good to those who do good to you, whatcredit is that to you? For evensinners do the same. 34And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners in order to receive backthe same amount. 35But love your enemies and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungratefuland evil people. 36[v]Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.

Enough is enough.

How old are you, may I ask?

Lol.

If every time you liked a woman and treated her well, but over and over again she went after another man because he is more flirty, more charming and more good at giving sexual pleasures to your woman (even if he was an evil man), will you be bitter or no?

Turn that around and put yourself in my shoes. Because I’m facing the same situation over and over. What kind of saint is someone who don’t get bitter over this?? So no thanks to marriage and relationships. I’m better off devoting myself to God.

 

[Godbehonored]

For that matter, men who are easily seduced are disgusting, too bad if I offend anyone. They show a lack of self control that is not only fatal to themselves but to any woman who loves them for who they are. How such men can remain loyal to a marriage is a joke.

As long as a woman without character comes in to their lives to seduce them and gives them the ego boost and pleasures they seek, they forget and abandon the women in their lives who do actually care for them and want the best for them. Then they wonder down the road why they get used by those seducers. LOL, isn’t it obvious that they are used because of their lack of self control?

 

[Godbehonored]

I don’t seduce men and men can’t seduce me. But in this rotten society that somehow makes me boring or men assume I’m not interested so they go after women who are overly sweet and open to them at the start.

Somehow in their brains no red flags go off that no one can like them THAT much without knowing who they are. So they open their arms wide to women who seem to like them a LOT even though these women don’t even know what kind of men they are deep down.

Their brains don’t seem to register that there is something fishy going on, and that these women are trying to hook them in just like salesmen are trying to hook the laymen into buying their products. Instead they consider that an ego boost and they find women who behave like salesmen desirable. LOLOLOL

What can I say? It’s so pathetic and hilarious at the same time.

 

[Luminary]

I don’t seduce men and men can’t seduce me. But in this rotten society that somehow makes me boring or men assume I’m not interested so they go after women who are overly sweet and open to them at the start.

Somehow in their brains no red flags go off that no one can like them THAT much without knowing who they are. So they open their arms wide to women who seem to like them a LOT even though these women don’t even know what kind of men they are deep down.

Their brains don’t seem to register that there is something fishy going on, and that these women are trying to hook them in just like salesmen are trying to hook the laymen into buying their products. Instead they consider that an ego boost and they find women who behave like salesmen desirable. LOLOLOL

What can I say? It’s so pathetic and hilarious at the same time.

I tend to see that it goes a bit deeper than just the ego and pleasure seekers.

They are trying to fill a void, just like any other addiction. And 99% of the time, it comes from their upbringing, environment they were raised in, and -Lack of nurturing Love- that we have come to know through Christ. Sometimes, they know not what they are doing. And sometimes, it’s a matter of the way they are wired. Narcissistic. Egocentric. Which is the extreme form of Lack of Love.

The World does not know this kind of Love. No matter the label. Or gender. They are far and few between. So we shouldn’t laugh and judge them. They need the Love that we have come to know. Through the grace and mercy we were given. It remains our choice always!

 

[Godbehonored]

I tend to see that it goes a bit deeper than just the ego and pleasure seekers.

They are trying to fill a void, just like any other addiction. And 99% of the time, it comes from their upbringing, environment they were raised in, and -Lack of nurturing Love- that we have come to know through Christ. Sometimes, they know not what they are doing. And sometimes, it’s a matter of the way they are wired. Narcissistic. Egocentric. Which is the extreme form of Lack of Love.

The World does not know this kind of Love. No matter the label. Or gender. They are far and few between. So we shouldn’t laugh and judge them. They need the Love that we have come to know. Through the grace and mercy we were given. It remains our choice always!

I am not talking about unbelievers, I am talking about Christian men who have better knowledge of the truth and share the same love of Christ. Many of them do the same thing as unbelievers.

Oh boy, trust me I know about upbringing issues. I myself faced emotional abuse, domestic violence and lived in a chaotic and tense family environment for most of my early years up till college. That’s 2 decades of living in an environment without nurturing love, not to mention I had atheistic parents. I also had a narcissistic parent so I believe I have narcissistic tendencies too just from genes.

That kind of upbringing and inherited tendencies didn’t turn me into a woman who will sleep around with any man to fill up a void. Neither did those infirmities turn me into a full blown narcissistic Jezebel who go after men like black widows trying to take everything I can from men.

It’s not a personal boast, I chose not to become like that. God did the rest. I know the void that exists and I worked on it so I don’t become an addict like you said. So upbringing issue is not an excuse at all, it’s entirely personal choice.

 

[Godbehonored]

I tend to see that it goes a bit deeper than just the ego and pleasure seekers.

They are trying to fill a void, just like any other addiction. And 99% of the time, it comes from their upbringing, environment they were raised in, and -Lack of nurturing Love- that we have come to know through Christ. Sometimes, they know not what they are doing. And sometimes, it’s a matter of the way they are wired. Narcissistic. Egocentric. Which is the extreme form of Lack of Love.

The World does not know this kind of Love. No matter the label. Or gender. They are far and few between. So we shouldn’t laugh and judge them. They need the Love that we have come to know. Through the grace and mercy we were given. It remains our choice always!

Even for unbelieving men, they have somewhat of a conscience to guide them on what’s right and what’s wrong. Fine, they may make one mistake in choosing a bad woman. That’s understandable.

But if they choose bad women over and over then it’s really a matter of choice. People make mistakes, yes. But if someone makes the same mistakes over and over it’s either because they don’t want to learn from their mistakes or they choose to stay in the mistake. Such men are simply too lazy and irresponsible to work on themselves to break out of the vicious cycle. This kind of laziness and irresponsibility makes them unreliable partners anyway. If they don’t even work on their own issues, what makes you think they will work to create a reliable and good marriage with you?

 

[Godbehonored]

I tend to see that it goes a bit deeper than just the ego and pleasure seekers.

They are trying to fill a void, just like any other addiction. And 99% of the time, it comes from their upbringing, environment they were raised in, and -Lack of nurturing Love- that we have come to know through Christ. Sometimes, they know not what they are doing. And sometimes, it’s a matter of the way they are wired. Narcissistic. Egocentric. Which is the extreme form of Lack of Love.

The World does not know this kind of Love. No matter the label. Or gender. They are far and few between. So we shouldn’t laugh and judge them. They need the Love that we have come to know. Through the grace and mercy we were given. It remains our choice always!

So yes I have every reason to laugh at them. They are irresponsible and lazy, they don’t work on their own issues. Instead they take for granted and hurt virtuous women who do love them but choose to love bad women over and over.

Then they get hurt and used by bad women, but don’t reflect on themselves. Rather they lash out at all women (even women who have never hurt them), while at the same time expecting those women they have hurt to somehow forgive them indefinitely, tolerate and accept their garbage that they carried around by their own choice. It’s as though women who do love them owe them a great deal. So they don’t deserve sympathy at all. They are disgusting.

 

[PloughBoy]

I am sorry, I cannot give you the way of this world’s form of Christianity & it’s love. For my type of love is not viewed as love as the world describes love. And
That would be un- becoming of me.

But if it was back before 1977 before my conversion and Surrendering and became a “bond slave” unto Christ I would agree with you 200%. And Praise you concerning your feelings and actions and thoughts.

But since I have surrender all, and he has become my “MASTER & LORD” my eyes are far different. And I Apologise if I have offended you concerning my beliefs and may “The LORD GOD ALMIGHTY” will hold it against me at The Latter day, if I have done you great harm in anyway.

Summary:
it is rightfully your choice to cast my words behind you as dung thrown in the street!

“Ye are the salt of the earth. But if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? It is thenceforth GOOD for NOTHING, But to be CAST OUT, and To be TRODDEN under The Foot of Men.”

For here, I will take my leave.

 

[Godbehonored]

I am sorry, I cannot give you the way of this world’s form of Christianity & it’s love. For my type of love is not viewed as love as the world describes love. And
That would be un- becoming of me.

But if it was back before 1977 before my conversion and Surrendering and became a “bond slave” unto Christ I would agree with you 200%. And Praise you concerning your feelings and actions and thoughts.

But since I have surrender all, and he has become my “MASTER & LORD” my eyes are far different. And I Apologise if I have offended you concerning my beliefs and may “The LORD GOD ALMIGHTY” will hold it against me at The Latter day, if I have done you great harm in anyway.

Summary:
it is rightfully your choice to cast my words behind you as dung thrown in the street!

“Ye are the salt of the earth. But if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? It is thenceforth GOOD for NOTHING, But to be CAST OUT, and To be TRODDEN under The Foot of Men.”

For here, I will take my leave.

I don’t care what you think. I know my reasons for feeling the way I do and God knows my heart.

The way I feel is exactly the way God feels about this world. This world has chosen false gods over Him, they take Him for granted exactly the way I am taken for granted by disgusting men. I am sharing in the sufferings of Christ.

I am confident that no matter how bitter I feel now He will bring me out of this.

 

[Luminary]

I am not talking about unbelievers, I am talking about Christian men who have better knowledge of the truth and share the same love of Christ. Many of them do the same thing as unbelievers.

Oh boy, trust me I know about upbringing issues. I myself faced emotional abuse, domestic violence and lived in a chaotic and tense family environment for most of my early years up till college. That’s 2 decades of living in an environment without nurturing love, not to mention I had atheistic parents. I also had a narcissistic parent so I believe I have narcissistic tendencies too just from genes.

That kind of upbringing and inherited tendencies didn’t turn me into a woman who will sleep around with any man to fill up a void. Neither did those infirmities turn me into a full blown narcissistic Jezebel who go after men like black widows trying to take everything I can from men.

It’s not a personal boast, I chose not to become like that. God did the rest. I know the void that exists and I worked on it so I don’t become an addict like you said. So upbringing issue is not an excuse at all, it’s entirely personal choice.

We are talking about the Nature of the Human. It doesn’t matter if they believe or not. Nor does it matter male or female. It’s the Human Condition. Hence Jesus in the First place. He -displayed- a transforming kind of Love, when one gets to Know Him personally. Not just -about- Him. This makes the difference between these two worlds!

This World does not know his Love. For His Love would never do such a thing to begin with. So Lip service and neon signs that say “Christian” are meaningless, as His Love is a verb. Not a Noun!

To know the Truth, which is Eternal Life, Is to Know God himself. So whether male or female, they neither know God, nor his Truth. This they display. And has been spoken of and repeated since the OT. Nothing New under the sun!

Many of us who are damaged can say the same as you. Yet all of our issues manifest in different ways. As unique as each of us are. Of course it doesn’t mean because we went through this, that this is how we turn out. We are equipped to break these inherent tendencies! Indeed because of Choice. Yet there are deep reasonings also, like our maturity, our own inner wisdom, and personalities or lack of….. And indeed it also takes intention, to want to change that which we grew up in and through. But it also takes awareness, acceptance, and recognizing this to be able to change it. And some, like an infant, don’t have that kind of awareness. It goes into a deflection, cognitive dissonance, and a denial. They can’t see it! So would it really be their fault? For they can only make decisions based upon what they are aware of!
Which is where only the Spirit within can call and convict. Or awaken them to themselves, to be able to start to change it or not. And this we can never know! For only the Spirit of a man, can know that man’s Spirit.

So truly, it’s not as black and white as you are seeing it at the moment. There are many shades of grey in between. Neither do we know their own personal stories, to be making such a judgment. But I also understand the burn and hurt from such situations. And it is indeed sad that this is what women have to put up with today Even men go through it with their “Christian” (or not) women. And should have attention brought to it! So I appreciate you bringing this to light But you can’t stay there in that place, and allow it to turn you bitter. For then you are only burning yourself! And need not be done. But indeed free to choose as you wish

So if you will Choose this day….Forgiveness, and Mercy, because of Grace…For then you may be healed And so also others, as they will be able to see! For it will show forth from you! Then they may be given the opportunity to ask, what this Hope is that you hold, and how they can have it too

 

[Luminary]

Even for unbelieving men, they have somewhat of a conscience to guide them on what’s right and what’s wrong. Fine, they may make one mistake in choosing a bad woman. That’s understandable.

But if they choose bad women over and over then it’s really a matter of choice. People make mistakes, yes. But if someone makes the same mistakes over and over it’s either because they don’t want to learn from their mistakes or they choose to stay in the mistake. Such men are simply too lazy and irresponsible to work on themselves to break out of the vicious cycle. This kind of laziness and irresponsibility makes them unreliable partners anyway. If they don’t even work on their own issues, what makes you think they will work to create a reliable and good marriage with you?

We really must be careful how we judge. For the measure that we use, will be used against us! So by our own standards! We will reap what we sow in every way! It’s (a) Law, called by many names.

There are always extenuating circumstances. Things we will never know. This does not mean to put up with it by no means! You dust your Sandals, Leave your peace there, and walk away The rest is Gods work, and not our concern. We pray for them, and send them the Love that we have received, hoping and praying that they will make the decision To receive it when it comes.

 

[Luminary]

So yes I have every reason to laugh at them. They are irresponsible and lazy, they don’t work on their own issues. Instead they take for granted and hurt virtuous women who do love them but choose to love bad women over and over.

Then they get hurt and used by bad women, but don’t reflect on themselves. Rather they lash out at all women (even women who have never hurt them), while at the same time expecting those women they have hurt to somehow forgive them indefinitely, tolerate and accept their garbage that they carried around by their own choice. It’s as though women who do love them owe them a great deal. So they don’t deserve sympathy at all. They are disgusting.

Having the reason to laugh, and using it are two different things.

You were presented with these type of situations for a reason. Which is yours to find and know. As everything we go through are lessons to be learned. There by using the gifts you were given, to not only bring to light, but to heal it and help bring about the change to it, by Christ (In) You! For not only yourself, but for others also in such situations.

In the end, they perpetuate the pain they feel, upon others. This is what abuse does, in all it’s many flavors. It needs healing. Not gnashing of teeth!
You end up on a hamster wheel, bringing others along with you! Thus death to yourself and others. Not even realizing it, because you are not aware of it!!

We all deserve not sympathy, but Empathy!!! Compassionate action, through the Heart of the Father, that is supposed to replace the Heart of stone that the majority of us carry. The difference between a carnal mind, and the mind of Christ. Given to us, to those that seek it

Turn to Him, and he will not only heal you, but will show you the way in which it’s done properly. By the Spirit, and not through the Flesh!

 

[Godbehonored]

We are talking about the Nature of the Human. It doesn’t matter if they believe or not. Nor does it matter male or female. It’s the Human Condition. Hence Jesus in the First place. He -displayed- a transforming kind of Love, when one gets to Know Him personally. Not just -about- Him. This makes the difference between these two worlds!

This World does not know his Love. For His Love would never do such a thing to begin with. So Lip service and neon signs that say “Christian” are meaningless, as His Love is a verb. Not a Noun!

To know the Truth, which is Eternal Life, Is to Know God himself. So whether male or female, they neither know God, nor his Truth. This they display. And has been spoken of and repeated since the OT. Nothing New under the sun!

Many of us who are damaged can say the same as you. Yet all of our issues manifest in different ways. As unique as each of us are. Of course it doesn’t mean because we went through this, that this is how we turn out. We are equipped to break these inherent tendencies! Indeed because of Choice. Yet there are deep reasonings also, like our maturity, our own inner wisdom, and personalities or lack of….. And indeed it also takes intention, to want to change that which we grew up in and through. But it also takes awareness, acceptance, and recognizing this to be able to change it. And some, like an infant, don’t have that kind of awareness. It goes into a deflection, cognitive dissonance, and a denial. They can’t see it! So would it really be their fault? For they can only make decisions based upon what they are aware of!
Which is where only the Spirit within can call and convict. Or awaken them to themselves, to be able to start to change it or not. And this we can never know! For only the Spirit of a man, can know that man’s Spirit.

So truly, it’s not as black and white as you are seeing it at the moment. There are many shades of grey in between. Neither do we know their own personal stories, to be making such a judgment. But I also understand the burn and hurt from such situations. And it is indeed sad that this is what women have to put up with today Even men go through it with their “Christian” (or not) women. And should have attention brought to it! So I appreciate you bringing this to light But you can’t stay there in that place, and allow it to turn you bitter. For then you are only burning yourself! And need not be done. But indeed free to choose as you wish

So if you will Choose this day….Forgiveness, and Mercy, because of Grace…For then you may be healed And so also others, as they will be able to see! For it will show forth from you! Then they may be given the opportunity to ask, what this Hope is that you hold, and how they can have it too

I understand what you are saying, but you don’t seem to understand what I am saying.

Should Christians have a forgiving heart? Yes. But there is a boundary to be set. Forgiveness is to not repay evil for evil, which I have not done to ANYONE who has hurt me. But does that mean I will accept those who have hurt me back into my life? No. The reason is simple, forgiveness taken to the extreme sets people up to be hurt over and over. If I allow someone who has no heart to change back into my life for the sake of forgiveness I am playing with fire to my own detriment.

I’m sick of seeing/hearing the Christian communities preaching mindless and brainless forgiveness at the expense of the victims. God never said we are to open ourselves up to being abused and used over and over just for the sake of forgiveness. Saying that “turn the other cheek” means victims should indefinitely allow themselves to be ill-treated is absolute nonsense and cruelty to the victims. Jesus was saying we aren’t to retaliate (ie. don’t repay evil with evil), but he never meant we keep on opening ourselves up to situations that allow people to abuse and hurt us.

You don’t seem to understand either that all the obstacles and limitations you set out as to why people are stuck in toxic patterns are due to a fundamental unwillingness to change. People are generally lazy and like to stay in their set patterns and comfort zones. They even take pleasure in it because sin is pleasurable. That is a sign of a wrong heart attitude, esp if a person proclaims to be a Christian. It is humanly impossible to change, yes, but with a willing heart and faith in God the power to come out of toxic pattern comes from God Himself.

 

[Godbehonored]

We really must be careful how we judge. For the measure that we use, will be used against us! So by our own standards! We will reap what we sow in every way! It’s (a) Law, called by many names.

There are always extenuating circumstances. Things we will never know. This does not mean to put up with it by no means! You dust your Sandals, Leave your peace there, and walk away The rest is Gods work, and not our concern. We pray for them, and send them the Love that we have received, hoping and praying that they will make the decision To receive it when it comes.

I know what I’m saying. There are a whole bunch of men out there who fit exactly into my descriptions. They disgust me and will not get any sympathy from me.

 

[Godbehonored]

Having the reason to laugh, and using it are two different things.

You were presented with these type of situations for a reason. Which is yours to find and know. As everything we go through are lessons to be learned. There by using the gifts you were given, to not only bring to light, but to heal it and help bring about the change to it, by Christ (In) You! For not only yourself, but for others also in such situations.

In the end, they perpetuate the pain they feel, upon others. This is what abuse does, in all it’s many flavors. It needs healing. Not gnashing of teeth!
You end up on a hamster wheel, bringing others along with you! Thus death to yourself and others. Not even realizing it, because you are not aware of it!!

We all deserve not sympathy, but Empathy!!! Compassionate action, through the Heart of the Father, that is supposed to replace the Heart of stone that the majority of us carry. The difference between a carnal mind, and the mind of Christ. Given to us, to those that seek it

Turn to Him, and he will not only heal you, but will show you the way in which it’s done properly. By the Spirit, and not through the Flesh!

It is pretty ironic and hilarious to me that Christians who claim to know God expect victims to be saints 24/7 and be mindlessly forgiving to others even to their own detriment, but perpetrators of harm get off the hook without ever feeling/getting the consequences of what they have done. ROFL. Even God does not function this way.

Why do you think Christians are called to SUFFER with Christ? So that they get a feeling/taste of what Christ has to suffer for us. Even God does not allow anyone into His kingdom unless they have a personal experience of how much His Son suffered for them.

But the devil has so twisted the doctrines of the church that the perpetrators of harm don’t have to suffer at all, instead they have an unlimited supply of and access to forgiveness without ever knowing the harm they have brought. The victims, on the other hand, have to be saints no matter what. They cannot have unforgiveness and bitterness (even if it is a natural phase in their healing), they must accept those who hurt them into their lives unconditionally even if it means that their lives will get destroyed over and over. LOL. How anyone can believe this kind of cruelty to victims is actually godly and comes from a loving God is beyond me.

 

[Luminary]

I understand what you are saying, but you don’t seem to understand what I am saying.

Should Christians have a forgiving heart? Yes. But there is a boundary to be set. Forgiveness is to not repay evil for evil, which I have not done to ANYONE who has hurt me. But does that mean I will accept those who have hurt me back into my life? No. The reason is simple, forgiveness taken to the extreme sets people up to be hurt over and over. If I allow someone who has no heart to change back into my life for the sake of forgiveness I am playing with fire to my own detriment.

I’m sick of seeing/hearing the Christian communities preaching mindless and brainless forgiveness at the expense of the victims. God never said we are to open ourselves up to being abused and used over and over just for the sake of forgiveness. Saying that “turn the other cheek” means victims should indefinitely allow themselves to be ill-treated is absolute nonsense and cruelty to the victims. Jesus was saying we aren’t to retaliate (ie. don’t repay evil with evil), but he never meant we keep on opening ourselves up to situations that allow people to abuse and hurt us.

You don’t seem to understand either that all the obstacles and limitations you set out as to why people are stuck in toxic patterns are due to a fundamental unwillingness to change. People are generally lazy and like to stay in their set patterns and comfort zones. That is a sign of a wrong heart attitude, esp if a person proclaims to be a Christian. It is humanly impossible to change, yes, but with a willing heart and faith in God the power to come out of toxic pattern comes from God Himself.

It is the boundaries that we set that keep us in death! And separated from each other.

Did Jesus set boundaries? On his forgiveness? Mercy? Grace? He literally didn’t walk away from being whipped to near death and then literally crucified! The ultimate victim of a murder on display for the world to see!
**For he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked! Just as his Father!

What is it supposed to be that sets us apart? That makes us Children of the Most high?
Luke 6!
You think I don’t understand, because I speak not according to this Worlds reasoning….I simply live in it like I was asked too. For I too used to be a victim. But today I AM a Survivor! Because that’s what I choose to be!

You see yourself as a victim, instead of a survivor! Thus your perception warps your sense of what is truly entailed within that Love that you claim, yet are not displaying.

You cannot know, with any human reasoning why someone stay either in a situation or the way that they are. Neither do you know what allowing someone back into your life will do! (Again and again- for that shows willingness, but failure!- hence flesh!) Especially as a virtuous Woman! For marriage is until death do you part! ( Not many actually follow through with that anymore)
1Peter3


You over step not only that persons god given Autonomy, but you stop the work of Spirit before it can even begin. Thus keep the perpetuation of verbal abuse going. Hence choose to stay in death! For it comes in many forms. You must be careful with your judgments….

I do not advocate for someone to stay in an abusive situation. If they are not willing to change and heal themselves or another, then as I’ve said before, ***Dust your sandals, Leave your Peace! _with them_, and Walk Away! —A survivor Healed!, no longer a victim stuck in death, but an over comer, who was equipped!
Thus displaying the Mighty works that abound within us, thus Proving our God that Lives!

Change is inevitable. We are in constant change. From the seen to unseen; to the macro and micro.
The only difference is conscious change or unconscious change.. none of us can say we are the same as we were 10years ago. 20 years ago…that is the impossibility

We are called to make a conscious change. For the better! There will always be those who are unwilling, and even intend hurt and pain. But we are to still show them kindness. We still show them the Love that was shown to us! As this is what makes the way for Heaven on Earth! The old has gone! And the new Has come! For those that choose it, either way! You can be taken, or left behind. You choose this day, where you end up. Death or Life! Though/by the Spirit! Not in/by your flesh that has been hurt.

Be an overcomer, like the Savior you claim! Not a victim who died(in Spirit)

 

[Godbehonored]

It is the boundaries that we set that keep us in death! And separated from each other.

Did Jesus set boundaries? On his forgiveness? Mercy? Grace? He literally didn’t walk away from being whipped to near death and then literally crucified! The ultimate victim of a murder on display for the world to see!
**For he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked! Just as his Father!

What is it supposed to be that sets us apart? That makes us Children of the Most high?
Luke 6!
You think I don’t understand, because I speak not according to this Worlds reasoning….I simply live in it like I was asked too. For I too used to be a victim. But today I AM a Survivor! Because that’s what I choose to be!

You see yourself as a victim, instead of a survivor! Thus your perception warps your sense of what is truly entailed within that Love that you claim, yet are not displaying.

You cannot know, with any human reasoning why someone stay either in a situation or the way that they are. Neither do you know what allowing someone back into your life will do! (Again and again- for that shows willingness, but failure!- hence flesh!) Especially as a virtuous Woman! For marriage is until death do you part! ( Not many actually follow through with that anymore)
1Peter3


You over step not only that persons god given Autonomy, but you stop the work of Spirit before it can even begin. Thus keep the perpetuation of verbal abuse going. Hence choose to stay in death! For it comes in many forms. You must be careful with your judgments….

I do not advocate for someone to stay in an abusive situation. If they are not willing to change and heal themselves or another, then as I’ve said before, ***Dust your sandals, Leave your Peace! _with them_, and Walk Away! —A survivor Healed!, no longer a victim stuck in death, but an over comer, who was equipped!
Thus displaying the Mighty works that abound within us, thus Proving our God that Lives!

Change is inevitable. We are in constant change. From the seen to unseen; to the macro and micro.
The only difference is conscious change or unconscious change.. none of us can say we are the same as we were 10years ago. 20 years ago…that is the impossibility

We are called to make a conscious change. For the better! There will always be those who are unwilling, and even intend hurt and pain. But we are to still show them kindness. We still show them the Love that was shown to us! As this is what makes the way for Heaven on Earth! The old has gone! And the new Has come! For those that choose it, either way! You can be taken, or left behind. You choose this day, where you end up. Death or Life! Though/by the Spirit! Not in/by your flesh that has been hurt.

Be an overcomer, like the Savior you claim! Not a victim who died(in Spirit)

Lol! How do you become a survivor if you go through the same thing over and over? You are forced to be a victim over and over! One becomes a survivor only when the victimisation stops!

I’m done talking. If you’re here to persuade me to marry and open my heart again to anyone, you’re wasting your bloody time. I only devote myself to God now.